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00:00A few days later
00:01Oh, really?
00:03Tonight, Muro Tsuyoshi
00:05will graduate as an MC
00:07Don't hit each other!
00:09I'm sorry, but I feel like I'm going to throw up
00:11I'm sorry, but I feel like I'm going to throw up
00:13The person who came to Muro's rescue is
00:15Ogurishio
00:17Before I even said my name, I already knew it was me
00:19Even the guests know
00:21Yamada Takaiki
00:23You can't hide your ideals
00:25This is the real deal
00:27That's unfair
00:30Actress, Muro Tsuyoshi
00:32Actress, Muro Tsuyoshi
00:34Muro's embarrassing past is revealed
00:36Muro's embarrassing past is revealed
00:38Muro's embarrassing past is revealed
00:40Muro's embarrassing past is revealed
00:42Good evening
00:44Muro-san
00:46Muro-san festival
00:48What's going to happen today?
00:50Muro-san special
00:52I'm happy, but it's hard
00:54It's hard?
00:56It's hard
00:59I've never seen you two together
01:01I've never seen you two together
01:03Even if you meet one by one
01:05For Muro-san, it's a real relationship
01:07I didn't think you'd come
01:09I didn't think you'd come
01:11I'd like to call everyone
01:13I'd like to call everyone
01:15Today's guests are these two
01:17Today's guests are these two
01:19Please come in
01:21Ogurishun-san
01:23Yamada Takaiki-san
01:25Thank you
01:27Please come in
01:32I got a cough
01:34I got a cough
01:36Is it hard to do?
01:38To be honest, it's hard
01:40Do you understand why it's hard?
01:42I don't really understand
01:44It's not easy to do in a place like this
01:46It's not easy to do in a place like this
01:48It's not easy to do in a place like this
01:50It's the timing
01:52Please come in
01:54Please come in
01:57This is your third time on the show
01:59This is your third time on the show
02:01You're making a lot of mistakes
02:03I'm shy
02:05I'm shy
02:07Last time, when you were with Akanishi
02:09You said that he had to be Yamada Takayuki
02:11You said that he had to be Yamada Takayuki
02:13You said that he had to be Yamada Takayuki
02:15You also said something offensive
02:17No, it's not like that
02:19I was being abused
02:21You were being abused
02:23Editing is about being abused
02:25I've only seen Fuji TV since then, so I thought Fuji TV would be a good match, but I've only seen Fuji TV since then.
02:32So we have to get along properly, right?
02:36That's right, that's right.
02:37Communication, right?
02:38If we get a chance like this, I think we'll be able to get along better.
02:43While brushing up on each other.
02:44Yes, that's right.
02:47Have you ever seen this movie?
02:49I've seen most of it.
02:52You've seen most of it?
02:54If you've seen most of it, that means you've appeared in most of it, right?
03:00You've appeared in most of it, right?
03:01I think so, too.
03:03Don't you feel surprised?
03:04I feel surprised.
03:05I think I've appeared in most of it before I got the name.
03:10Any guest would know, right?
03:12This is me.
03:15You've appeared in a lot of movies.
03:17Don't you have any money?
03:18I don't have any money.
03:20I think I've spent about 2,000 yen on Fuji TV.
03:24It's just an image.
03:25It's just Oguri Shun.
03:28Yes, Oguri Shun, whose name is mentioned every week.
03:31This is the scene where he appears.
03:34It was my first time.
03:36I talked to him a little bit, but we broke up right away.
03:39Oguri Shun comes out about three times.
03:41Oh, he came out again.
03:42He looks like he's going to say it.
03:43He looks like he's going to say it.
03:44I'm drunk, and I know him, so I ring the doorbell.
03:47If he doesn't come out, I call him.
03:49If he doesn't come out, I call him.
03:50I call him, and he says, open the door.
03:52It's embarrassing.
03:53Two or three people I know are coming out.
03:55You're Oguri Shun, right?
03:56Yes.
03:58There's a guy on the right.
03:59He gave me a booklet.
04:02It's how to make and show your body at the scene for the actor you made.
04:10Can you give it to us?
04:12I can't give it to you seriously.
04:14I've only given it to two people so far.
04:16Can I ask one more person about the movie?
04:18Yes.
04:19He's Oguri Shun.
04:22He's going to do it properly.
04:24A senior gave me half of his money and bought me a car.
04:29A senior gave you half of his money?
04:31I got a loan from a senior, so I called him and asked if I could borrow his car.
04:40Who is it?
04:42It's Oguri Shun.
04:43He's Oguri Shun.
04:44He's Oguri Shun.
04:46Why do you call him Oguri Shun?
04:49He comes out once every two weeks.
04:53I met him in a movie called Surely Someday.
04:56He's Oguri Shun.
04:57He's Oguri Shun.
05:00We got together on the stage.
05:03What's the stage?
05:05It's Oguri.
05:06It's Oguri Shun.
05:07He's Oguri Shun.
05:09He treats me somehow.
05:12Who is he?
05:13He's Eita Koizumi Kotaro Oguri Shun.
05:15It's Oguri Shun.
05:17He comes out once every week.
05:19He's Oguri Shun.
05:20He's Oguri Shun.
05:21He's Oguri Shun.
05:22He's Oguri Shun.
05:23He's Oguri Shun.
05:25He's Oguri Shun.
05:28Oguri, you like Yuki, right?
05:31Yes.
05:32Did you see this?
05:33I heard about it.
05:34Did you see this?
05:35Did you see this?
05:36I heard about it.
05:37You joined the entertainment world because you met Yuki.
05:38Yes, I met her.
05:39Was it the first time you met Oguri?
05:40No, it was before that.
05:41No, it was before that.
05:42He's dirty.
05:44No, he's not.
05:45No, he's not.
05:48I can see that.
05:49I can see that.
05:50Yuki.
05:51I wanted to change to Fuji Gaya.
05:55You did?
05:57I happened to see that show.
06:00I don't usually watch it, but I couldn't connect to the TV.
06:04What's wrong with the TV?
06:05It's not homeless, is it?
06:08That's now.
06:09That's now.
06:10It's not homeless.
06:11I just came down from the mountain.
06:14You looked really fun.
06:16It was really fun.
06:17It looked really fun.
06:18It was really fun.
06:19It was a good time.
06:20It was a good time.
06:21It was a great jealousy.
06:23It's because it's a jealousy.
06:24It's a great jealousy.
06:25You were so famous.
06:26Are you happy that you came today for Mr. Muro?
06:30Of course.
06:31Did you feel like you'd go if Mr. Muro and this show were the last?
06:35Yes.
06:36I heard that it was the last time.
06:39I'm glad that these two came at the same time.
06:43What's wrong with you?
06:46I don't know what to do.
06:48I didn't know what kind of face they would make.
06:50They are guests, but are they friends?
06:54Yes, we don't see each other at work.
06:58Oh, you don't see each other?
07:00It's been a while since I saw him at work.
07:02I think they will bump into each other.
07:06Oh, I see.
07:08They don't bump into each other.
07:10They don't bump into each other.
07:12But they look alike.
07:14They look alike.
07:16Can I bring him here?
07:18No, you can't.
07:20Do you see each other often?
07:22It's been a while since I saw him.
07:27Oh, I see.
07:30He calls me even if there's nothing.
07:32I ask him why he's calling me.
07:34He says that he's just asking me to drink with him.
07:36I say that I called him.
07:38He checks if you're still alive.
07:40You're on TV a lot.
07:42He checks if you're still alive.
07:44He checks if you're still alive.
07:46But he calls you.
07:48Yes.
07:50This is a long story.
07:52I'm not sure about the order.
07:54I was the first one to call him.
07:56How many years ago was that?
07:58It was 21 years ago when I made my debut in a movie.
08:02I was working as a commentator for a movie.
08:08He commented on my work.
08:10He knew my existence.
08:12Then we met at a bar.
08:14We met at a bar.
08:16We met at a bar.
08:18We met at a bar.
08:20We met at a bar.
08:22That was our first meeting.
08:24That's why you have a lot of private things.
08:26In a bar, isn't it?
08:28Yeah, it is.
08:30You met because of those private things?
08:32Yeah.
08:34Yeah.
08:36I met with him as a comedian in a drama.
08:38I met with him as a comedian in a drama.
08:40We did a party scene in a group.
08:42We did a party scene in a group.
08:45We did a party scene in a group.
08:48I forgot to tell you this.
08:50We met around the same time as you.
08:52Yes, when I drank with ATA, right?
08:54You know, when you first met him.
08:56Oh, yeah, that's when we first met.
08:58Yeah.
08:59What's with this mount thing?
09:01I think I forgot.
09:02It's the sea of love.
09:03I remember, I remember.
09:04I thought there was a weird actor who was really weird.
09:06Yeah, I hate it because it's so detailed.
09:08I hate it because it's so detailed.
09:10That's what I was thinking.
09:11I didn't like it because it was so detailed.
09:13It's so detailed.
09:15It's so detailed.
09:17I was on a drama called Water Boys, and I played Eita.
09:19Oh, yes, yes.
09:20Oh, yes, yes.
09:22After a while, Eita-kun said,
09:23Takayuki, let's go for a drink.
09:25And we went to a place with a lot of friends.
09:27At that time, Eita-kun was the main actor.
09:29I said, I did a movie.
09:30Oh, I see.
09:31When I said that,
09:32People who don't know well said,
09:33Eita-kun was wonderful.
09:35I said that a lot.
09:36What's up with him?
09:39He's bringing up the main character.
09:41Maybe Takayuki came first.
09:43Because it's the timing of the release.
09:45It's probably before the release.
09:47Hey!
09:50He's trying to make it happen.
09:53At that time, Muro-kun had a business card.
09:55You have a cell phone, don't you?
09:57Yes, I do.
09:58I wrote down my cell phone number and gave it to various people.
10:00You gave it to them and said,
10:01If you need anything, please call me.
10:03The business card said,
10:05Actor, Muro Tsuyoshi.
10:11Why are you laughing?
10:13No, don't laugh.
10:15It's more interesting to put out an old episode.
10:19Why?
10:20I haven't set up a job yet.
10:23I'm actually a freelancer.
10:26But I'm aiming to be an actor.
10:27I don't want to write the actor's name.
10:29So I wrote down the name of the actor.
10:31That's cool.
10:32I wrote down my cell phone number.
10:33I don't have an office.
10:34I gave it to all kinds of people.
10:37That's a good relationship.
10:39I thought it would be like that.
10:41But you've been friends for a long time, haven't you?
10:43At that time, I really thought he was a dull person.
10:46I didn't know.
10:47We started to cooperate later.
10:50I thought,
10:51He was that person at that time.
10:56The reunion after that.
10:58The reunion after that was in Oguri.
11:01It was a day when we all watched a video of Close.
11:05I don't remember.
11:06I was sitting next to Takayuki and doing a lot of shoulder pads.
11:09I know.
11:10Was Close on the show?
11:12No, he wasn't.
11:14I was called to the premiere of Close.
11:16You were a dull person at that time, weren't you?
11:17Yes, I was.
11:18Oguri came late.
11:19I said,
11:20You can't get involved with him.
11:21Takayuki is kind, so he won't get angry.
11:23Stop it.
11:24He kept saying that.
11:25He kept saying,
11:26Hey.
11:27He kept saying,
11:28Hey.
11:29It was the 18th episode.
11:31I said,
11:32I'll go to the 20th episode.
11:33He said,
11:34Hey.
11:35I said,
11:36Hey.
11:37He said,
11:38Hey.
11:39I said,
11:40Hey.
11:41He said,
11:42Hey.
11:43I said,
11:44Hey.
11:45Stop it.
11:46Takayuki is poor at this.
11:51I've already felt that too.
11:52When I was around 10,
11:54I can already start to feel it.
11:55I was ugly.
11:56I really can't understand.
11:58I might not know him if he didn't jump in and normalize.
12:03This is the strength and appeal of Goro.
12:08Doing your best even though you're stuck there.
12:10I was being silly at first, but...
12:13So, how long have you two known each other?
12:17Well, it's been over 20 years.
12:19I think it's been a while.
12:20The first time we met was when we were both in high school.
12:25We met at a station called Kichijoji.
12:30That was the first time?
12:31We went to the same school at that time.
12:33And I lived in Kichijoji.
12:34Oh, I see.
12:36And I was the first one to go out.
12:39And I was a year older than him.
12:41So you knew him at that moment?
12:43Of course.
12:44And then a big guy came up to me.
12:46And I was like,
12:47Wow, Oguri, you're huge!
12:50That's how you say it.
12:52What about you, Oguri?
12:53Oh, it's Takayuki Yamada.
12:55You looked at me with a gentle look, but you were looking down.
12:58Yeah, Takayuki was like this.
13:00I was like this.
13:01I was looking at the newspaper.
13:03Oh, it's Takayuki Yamada.
13:05Oh, I see.
13:07You didn't talk to him at that time?
13:09No, I didn't.
13:10After that, I went to auditions and met him a few times.
13:14Oh, I see.
13:15You went to auditions.
13:18But when Takayuki Yamada was in the audition,
13:20I felt like I was falling.
13:22I felt like I was going home.
13:24You were rivals.
13:26I really felt that way at that time.
13:28You've been together three times.
13:30Takayuki played that role three times.
13:32Oh, yeah.
13:33All three times?
13:34All three times.
13:35Did you see it?
13:37I saw it.
13:38First of all, I wondered who he was.
13:41Oh, I see.
13:43He said,
13:44I'm Yamada-kun.
13:48What I hated the most was
13:50when I went into a small room with the two of them.
13:54It was this close.
13:55We were sandwiched between tables.
13:57Three staff members and three actors.
13:59We were handed the same paper.
14:01We were told to act.
14:02I hated that.
14:04I really hated that.
14:05I really hated that.
14:07At that time,
14:08Takayuki and Kazuchika were good friends.
14:11They were acting together.
14:12The two of them were talking like they were really close.
14:15I thought,
14:16It's a pain in the ass to talk to each other.
14:19That's what I thought.
14:21It's 2-1, right?
14:22Yes, yes.
14:23Takayuki said,
14:24This guy is really good.
14:27That's good.
14:28Shun-kun was basically good.
14:31Anyway, at that time,
14:33he said in an audition that he was a little over the top.
14:38He said,
14:39You know me.
14:41He's the generation of celebrities.
14:43It's the time to be a celebrity.
14:44He was 16 or 17 years old.
14:45I thought that if I went with that kind of mood,
14:47it would catch the eye.
14:49That's what I thought.
14:51But he was just a bad guy.
14:54Teenagers are like that.
14:56I wanted to be seen as an adult.
14:58I had a strong desire to be seen as a child.
15:01Was that when you appeared in my drama?
15:03That's right.
15:04It was after Nakai-san let me appear in it.
15:07It was after.
15:08Yes.
15:09I played the role of student 1.
15:10I was 22 years old.
15:11That's 30 years ago.
15:13I was in the first or second grade of junior high school.
15:15At that time,
15:16It's the first line I got.
15:19At that time?
15:20It's the line,
15:21I'm number one.
15:24In the scene of the writing class,
15:25Nakai-san is the teacher.
15:28You remember it.
15:30I got the role of student 1.
15:32I don't know how many times I practiced.
15:34It's a six-letter word.
15:36The first line I got when I was 15 years old was,
15:38I'm here.
15:39I'm here.
15:40What's before and after?
15:42While everyone was there,
15:44someone came and said,
15:45I'm here.
15:46Someone said, I'm here.
15:48I can't forget that.
15:50I was nervous.
15:51Even a word of I'm here.
15:53But it's a little encouraging.
15:55Young children can't speak.
15:57They can't remember this.
15:58They can't remember this.
15:59They can't speak.
16:00There was a time like that.
16:03But you've been through a lot.
16:06That's right.
16:07After that,
16:08I was invited as a guest to the drama of Takayuki Shuen.
16:11That's the first co-star.
16:12That's the first co-star.
16:13I heard there's a video of that this time.
16:15What?
16:16It's been 20 years.
16:18Takayuki Yamada, Shuen.
16:21What's Oguri's role?
16:22He's a senior.
16:23Senior.
16:24I want to see that.
16:25That's crazy.
16:29Hey, Daigo.
16:32How are you, Captain?
16:33It's been a while.
16:36But I've seen you a few times.
16:39What?
16:40There was a fire, right?
16:41I went to see it.
16:42No, it's called wild horse guts.
16:44You're still young.
16:46Then you were there.
16:48When I saw you working hard,
16:50I felt sorry for you.
16:52I went home without talking to you.
16:54Is that so?
16:56So what?
17:01Don't let us down.
17:07I...
17:10I...
17:14Fire Boy and Saikoto...
17:20It's too late.
17:23Let's run together again.
17:27Even if we can't shoot a long shot,
17:29we'll run on the pitch and sweat.
17:32Isn't that the best?
17:39Daigo.
17:46It's been 20 years.
17:47I'm embarrassed.
17:48I'm embarrassed.
17:50I don't think it's embarrassing at all.
17:54It's only been a few seconds,
17:57but I've seen it.
17:58The play from 20 years ago is amazing.
18:00It's amazing.
18:01Okori, do you still have a sense of humor?
18:04Yes, I do.
18:06Of course I do.
18:07What is this?
18:08You're a real person.
18:10What is this?
18:11What made you do this?
18:14When you start to think you're being watched by others,
18:16you start to change.
18:18That's definitely big.
18:19I see.
18:20My classmates were like,
18:22you're like an old man.
18:26It's a good relationship.
18:28It's been 20 years.
18:29It's good that this is still there.
18:31I think they're looking at the same scenery.
18:33On the other hand,
18:34I think they got closer
18:36with Close.
18:38That's right.
18:39Close is...
18:41I think it was the 23rd episode.
18:44It was the 23rd when I shot it.
18:46Takayuki was the 23rd.
18:47But that was 3 years later.
18:493 years later.
18:50Wow, that's amazing.
18:52There was Hanadan in the meantime.
18:53That's right.
18:54That's a lot of time.
18:56Those 3 years.
18:58It was really a lot of time.
18:59During that time,
19:00I was only working part-time.
19:01I got a lot of calls,
19:03but Okori was running up at a great speed.
19:07At first,
19:08he wasn't that popular.
19:10How old were you?
19:12I was 7 years old.
19:137 years old.
19:14That's pretty old.
19:15That's right.
19:16Everyone's speed is different.
19:18The people who keep coming out
19:20are not always successful.
19:23I'm just clinging on desperately.
19:26That's all I have.
19:28I don't know anything else.
19:30If I talk about this,
19:32I have to work part-time.
19:34Now, let's welcome the two.
19:36We took a survey.
19:38I was a little interested.
19:41Yes.
19:42How do the two old lovers
19:44think of each other?
19:46We took a survey.
19:48It's a unique perspective
19:50that can be seen from a close friend.
19:52What do you think of each other?
19:55There is?
19:57Why can't the passion fade?
19:59Okori to Yamada-kun.
20:01No matter when,
20:03I'm going to do this next time.
20:05I'm going to do this next time.
20:07I hear that a lot.
20:09Every time I hear that,
20:11That's the energy.
20:13Why do I want to do it
20:15I think it's going to be born.
20:17I think Okori is a passionate type.
20:20That's right.
20:22But from a certain point on,
20:24Even if it's not like that,
20:26I wonder if it's okay.
20:28There are times when I feel like
20:30it's going to be like this for a moment.
20:33I thought I was running with all my might.
20:36I'm in my 20s and 30s.
20:38Recently, there was a moment
20:40when I felt like I was out of breath.
20:42At that time,
20:44I talked to Takagi about it.
20:46I have to do my best.
20:48That's right.
20:50What about you?
20:52Do you always have something you want to do?
20:56I'm doing a lot of things.
20:58I don't usually start with myself.
21:01Is that so?
21:03Let's do something from someone.
21:05It's not that rough.
21:07For example, let's do this.
21:09How about this?
21:11I want to give you an idea.
21:13I think I should do this.
21:15When we talk at a drinking party,
21:17I think that's true.
21:19Then I think about what to do.
21:21Then I start doing something.
21:23What do you mean by starting from scratch?
21:26I'm doing 01 as a whole.
21:30Most of the time, it's not me.
21:33That's a cool story.
21:36When that happens,
21:38I can see my goal.
21:40I think I should do this.
21:42I hope I can do this.
21:44At that time, I'm excited.
21:46It's always fun.
21:48If you can see the flag,
21:50let's go to this flag.
21:52When you can't see the flag,
21:54it's the most blurry.
21:56If you can clearly build a flag,
21:58you'll do it.
22:00If you can't build a flag,
22:02you won't do it.
22:04It's difficult.
22:06In the case of Oguri Shun,
22:08it's because you've been carrying a lot of different things.
22:10It's something you want to do,
22:12but it's a lot of expectations.
22:14I think it's because you've been carrying a lot of things.
22:18Did you become the president?
22:20President?
22:22It's a strange news.
22:24It's not that news.
22:26Even if I become the president,
22:28I'll be the president.
22:30It's an interesting news.
22:32I became the president of my agency.
22:34That's possible.
22:36It looks delicious.
22:38It's not because I want to be the president.
22:40It's not because I want to be the president.
22:42That's right.
22:44On the contrary,
22:46it's because you prioritized your work
22:48rather than what you wanted to do.
22:50I think it's because of that.
22:52From my point of view,
22:54it's simple and honest.
22:56Shun is honest.
22:58He's honest.
23:00He tells me everything.
23:02There's no mystery.
23:04I think so.
23:06I like him.
23:08He really tells me everything.
23:10He tells me what he thinks
23:12no matter who he is.
23:14I'm not a bad person.
23:16I've never heard
23:18of Oguri's bad words.
23:20I've never heard of Oguri's bad words.
23:22I think Oguri's words
23:24come out
23:26when he's on the show.
23:28I think Oguri's words come out
23:30when he's on the show.
23:32What do you envy about each other?
23:34Let's see.
23:36He's active.
23:38He seems to have a lot of fun.
23:40I wonder if he's active.
23:42He's very active.
23:44When it comes to work.
23:46However,
23:48as Takayuki said recently,
23:50he seems to have returned to his old self.
23:52When he's the busiest,
23:54he seems to have lost
23:56his original self.
23:58That's what he said.
24:00He has some experience.
24:02I left my hometown
24:04when I was 15 years old.
24:06I joined the entertainment industry
24:08when I was 15 years old.
24:10I had a hard time
24:12when I was in my 20s.
24:14I was confused
24:16when I came to the big city.
24:18I was even more confused
24:20when I joined the entertainment industry.
24:22He doesn't have a lot of friends.
24:24I think he's overwhelmed.
24:26I think he's overwhelmed.
24:28I think he's overwhelmed.
24:30I've thought about it many times.
24:32I've thought about it many times.
24:34I still think about it recently.
24:36When he's active,
24:38he seems to have returned to his old self.
24:40He got along with Takayuki
24:42at the beginning.
24:44He didn't like meeting people.
24:46He didn't like meeting people.
24:48He suddenly became
24:50very sociable.
24:52He started to act
24:54as he wanted to do.
24:56He started to act as he wanted to do.
24:58We've watched it for 10 years.
25:00He was like this when he was a child.
25:02He was like this when he was a child.
25:04He was like this when he was a child.
25:06I never envied people.
25:08I never envied people.
25:10I never envied people.
25:12We can't do that.
25:16It was scary just now.
25:20He was the first actor
25:22who I could meet straightly.
25:24He was the first actor
25:26I'm so happy
25:30I'm so happy
25:32I'm so happy
25:36He's so cool
25:40He's so cool
25:42He's so cool
25:44He's so cool
25:46He's so cool
25:48He's so cool
25:50He's so cool
25:52I haven't been called Kya-Kya lately
25:57But sometimes I'm like
26:03I've never envied anyone
26:08I've never envied anyone
26:11I see
26:12Not just Shun-kun
26:13I've never envied anyone
26:14I've never envied anyone
26:16You can't be like him
26:17I've never envied anyone
26:19I've never envied anyone
26:21That was scary
26:30I'm not used to running
26:32I'm not used to running
26:34But I want to run fast
26:36I want to get something like this
26:39When you want to run fast you should practice running
26:43If you think you are too tall, you can't grow any taller
26:47That's right
26:48You can't grow
26:49I can't help it, so I think about what I can actually do.
26:53Don't you have an actor?
26:55For example, when you're acting,
26:57don't you feel like,
26:59I didn't have this in me?
27:02Don't you feel like you're being stimulated?
27:04Basically, I don't have that.
27:06Even if it's Shun-kun or Muro-san,
27:08I don't have it, so I think,
27:10wow, that's interesting.
27:12But if I imitate that...
27:14If it's the same thing or not, it's different.
27:16I think that's good.
27:18It's good, so everyone acknowledges it.
27:21That's good. I think it's good.
27:24Iwata-kun, since when?
27:26Since you were little, you haven't compared yourself to others.
27:29It's not like that, right?
27:31That's right.
27:32I came to Tokyo, joined the entertainment industry,
27:34and was in my teens.
27:36Was I in my teens?
27:37You auditioned, and you fell.
27:39And when you fell, you were upset.
27:41Simply, someone, like Shun-kun,
27:43decided the main character of a drama,
27:45and you were like,
27:47ugh, damn it!
27:49That happened.
27:50I see.
27:51But until you get to this point,
27:53I think it takes time.
27:55You can't say it clearly.
27:57Do you have anything you're jealous of?
28:00No.
28:01That's fast.
28:03That's fast.
28:05It's Nakai-san.
28:07It's fast to decide.
28:09Jealous?
28:11I think I was in my teens,
28:13but I only got what I was good at.
28:16I think there's something to the extension of what I was good at,
28:20but I tried to do what I couldn't do.
28:24When I was in my teens,
28:26if I said I wasn't good at singing,
28:28it might have started from there.
28:30I couldn't sing, so I practiced.
28:32I did voice training,
28:34but I thought it was a little embarrassing
28:37to sing in an atmosphere where I was good.
28:40If I kept talking,
28:42it would get stuck on the board.
28:44But you've always been overwhelmingly good at dancing.
28:47That was there.
28:49It's hard to say I was good at dancing.
28:53It's cool.
28:57That's really...
28:59I'm not that good at it.
29:02I'm not that good at it.
29:04I'm not good at pretending to be good.
29:08I got a little dirty technique.
29:11But it's something only Nakai-san can do.
29:14I think there's an atmosphere.
29:16Is there a play?
29:18I think so.
29:20I felt like that.
29:22I felt like I was talking about a play.
29:24There's no right answer.
29:26I remember it very well.
29:28When I was in my teens,
29:30I was the worst, so I had to stand in the middle.
29:33How much I was accepted
29:35made this work interesting.
29:37Everyone did what they liked.
29:39It was good.
29:41At the beginning of the season,
29:43I said it was frustrating.
29:45I want to do more, but I have to accept it now.
29:48Everyone is better than me.
29:50It's difficult for the main character.
29:53I still think so.
29:56Everyone else...
29:58In my case, everyone looks envious.
30:01How did you make that face?
30:05Why did you choose this way of speaking?
30:11I don't have it.
30:13I think about it every time.
30:18I'm the exact opposite.
30:20I'm really jealous.
30:24You're jealous of the stock.
30:26You're jealous of drinking.
30:28You're taking advantage of it.
30:30That's the foundation.
30:32I guess that's why you're doing it.
30:35I think so.
30:37I think it's good for people who think they're good.
30:40It's the same as Takayuki, but it's exciting.
30:43I wonder what kind of person I will be this time.
30:48I think so.
30:50Oguri still thinks so.
30:53I think Oguri is nice to say that.
30:57I think his anxiety and his determination are moving forward.
31:04That's why he can make an effort.
31:07When I look at Takayuki's recent works,
31:10there are people who have been expressionless all the time.
31:13When I think I might change my face,
31:18I think about the choice I made to stay with this face.
31:25I wonder what made me do that.
31:28Of course, I think it's about the role in my mind.
31:34I think I might put in a different emotion in the role.
31:44That's interesting.
31:46I think Masami Nagasawa was on another show the other day.
31:52He was a very respected actor.
31:56He was always called Yamada-kun.
31:58He was one of the few.
32:00When I asked him why,
32:03he said he was shy and not very sociable.
32:07He thought he had to communicate with the audience.
32:11When I first worked with Yamada,
32:15I couldn't communicate with him at all.
32:19I wanted to communicate with him,
32:21but Yamada-kun told me that I didn't have to.
32:27I didn't have to worry about it.
32:29I just had to focus on the play.
32:31Yamada-kun didn't say this,
32:33but Yamada-kun told me that what I can do in this play
32:38is the greatest job for an actor.
32:41Yamada-san was the first person I was able to face the play.
32:47I thought, wow, that's true.
32:51I was so happy.
32:54I was so happy that I couldn't hide it.
32:57I was so happy that I couldn't hide it.
33:00If you can't hide it, you can do better.
33:03You should just accept it.
33:05That's unfair.
33:07I'm getting jealous again.
33:10I don't know if it was because he told me that,
33:13or if it helped me.
33:15I don't know if it was Yamada-kun's way of doing it,
33:20or if it was a way of doing it for Nagasawa-san.
33:23I thought, oh, Yamada-kun is that kind of person.
33:26I was so happy when I heard it.
33:28I thought, that was a good story.
33:31But what is it?
33:33You can't hide it.
33:35I didn't do it.
33:37I can't hide it.
33:40What do you like about each other?
33:43Wow, you can say that?
33:45That's embarrassing.
33:47Let's start with Takaki.
33:49He's the type to dress up when he's on stage.
33:52It's his job to dress up.
33:55Next, Oguri-san's answer.
33:58He listens to people very carefully.
34:01That's amazing.
34:03It's his job to dress up.
34:05Shun-kun is honest, so he says it.
34:08One time, when he was on stage,
34:12he was talking like this,
34:15but when he came out,
34:17he was the main character, so he came out last.
34:19He dressed up like this.
34:22Dressed up?
34:24That's not a lie.
34:26He looked at the audience.
34:28Oguri-shun is here.
34:31When I saw that, I was surprised.
34:34I don't think we'll be together like that.
34:37But it's a play.
34:39Of course, it's after the play.
34:41When I went backstage,
34:43I said, Shun-kun, you always dress up.
34:47He said, I always dress up.
34:50That's what he said.
34:52That's funny.
34:54It's good to turn it around.
34:56That's right.
34:58I always dress up.
35:00When he says, Shun-kun,
35:02I have to be Oguri-shun.
35:05You've dressed up a lot, haven't you?
35:08There are characters,
35:11and there are scenes where I dress up.
35:13Not everything is everything.
35:15Recently,
35:17I haven't been told that I dress up.
35:20Sometimes when I'm told,
35:22I'm surprised.
35:24I'm surprised.
35:26But people are watching.
35:30It's slow.
35:32It's slow.
35:34It's funny.
35:36It's hard to stand in front of 40 people.
35:38That's right.
35:40It's hard to stand in front of the audience.
35:44There's no live like Genshin.
35:47What do you want each other to fix?
35:52Nothing in particular.
35:54I don't want to fix it.
35:56I don't want to be like Oguri-kun.
35:58If I have to say,
36:00I want to spend money.
36:02If you use less,
36:04you don't have to be so busy.
36:06What do you use it for?
36:08I don't know what I'm using it for.
36:10I don't know what I'm using it for.
36:12I don't know what I'm using it for.
36:14It's my first time.
36:16Is that so?
36:18I'm sorry.
36:20I'm sorry.
36:22It's my turn now.
36:24I came to the store.
36:26Yes!
36:32If I have to say,
36:34I want to spend money.
36:36I don't know what I'm using it for.
36:38I don't have anything in particular.
36:40If I have to say,
36:42I want to spend money.
36:44If I have to say,
36:46I want to spend money.
36:48Why do you want to spend money?
36:50Do you want to buy a car?
36:52I've been working for a long time.
36:54I've been earning money.
36:56I spend a lot of money.
36:58That's why I have Communist thought.
37:00If I can use less,
37:02I don't have to be busy.
37:04What do you use it for?
37:06I don't know what I'm using it for.
37:10I would buy if I like it.
37:14I would buy if I like it.
37:16Don't you profess something?
37:18You won't have to spend a thing on a car.
37:20You won't have to spend a thing on a car.
37:22It should be. He's working so hard.
37:25He says he doesn't have any money.
37:27He really doesn't have any money.
37:29I don't have any either.
37:32You do, right?
37:33He says he does, but he doesn't have any.
37:35When we were drinking together,
37:37I was listening to football players abroad
37:40and I was like,
37:41that's great!
37:43That's great!
37:44That's great!
37:45That's great!
37:46He's different from an athlete.
37:48That's great!
37:49Everyone envies that.
37:50Matsumoto-san and I
37:54went to a private restaurant together.
37:56It was a long time ago.
37:58Not often, but once or twice a year.
38:01He'd ask me,
38:02how about Oguri-kun?
38:04Oguri-kun was the only one.
38:07So I ended up with Yamada-kun.
38:09Really?
38:10He'd ask me, how about Yamada-kun?
38:13I'd say,
38:14isn't it okay today?
38:19Was it last year?
38:20Last year.
38:21He'd ask me, how about Oguri-kun?
38:23I'd say, isn't it okay?
38:25It was my first time drinking.
38:27Really?
38:28I didn't know.
38:32I'm sorry, I'm getting all these emotions.
38:34I'm sorry, I'm getting all these emotions.
38:36I'm sorry, I'm getting all these emotions.
38:37It's my turn now.
38:39Please let me go.
38:40So I came to the restaurant.
38:42It was Oguri!
38:44It wasn't my first time,
38:46but I had a lot of fun.
38:49I had a lot of fun.
38:51Really?
38:52We talked about the play.
38:55We said, let's do it together.
38:58Let's do it when we have time.
39:00I was happy to hear that
39:02there were people who wanted to see the play.
39:04At that time,
39:06we talked about the play,
39:08and one more thing.
39:09Um, I'm Katsukatsu.
39:13That's what we were talking about.
39:17I was like, what?
39:19Nagai-san, um,
39:21I'm Katsukatsu.
39:25I have a kid,
39:27and everything.
39:28I'm Katsukatsu.
39:29What's Katsukatsu?
39:31I don't have any money.
39:34What happened?
39:35I don't know about your money.
39:38That's right.
39:39I don't know.
39:41He did say that.
39:43I only remember Katsukatsu.
39:45But,
39:46I only say this to people who have more money than I do,
39:51or have the same amount of money as I do.
39:56I don't have money in front of young people.
39:59He didn't say that.
40:00He's the president.
40:01The president is Katsukatsu.
40:03The president is Katsukatsu,
40:04but the office is Katsukatsu.
40:05I wonder if I can be there.
40:08It was my first time.
40:11We worked together,
40:14but I didn't like him.
40:16I thought it was fun.
40:18In my opinion,
40:20Nagai-san was there.
40:24That's right.
40:26Nagai-san was there.
40:30I couldn't imagine that.
40:32It was my first time, but it was fun.
40:34It was really fun.
40:37It was fun, but it was also exciting.
40:41I wondered why I had to walk around in a small space.
40:47I wondered if I had to move.
40:50It was a big step for Nagai-san.
40:53It was a big step.
40:55I couldn't do that when I was young.
40:59If I go with him, I'll ask him to play golf.
41:02But Nagai-san plays golf.
41:04I don't play golf at all.
41:05You're lying.
41:06You're lying.
41:07You're lying.
41:08You're lying.
41:09You're lying.
41:10Please name three of your best friends.
41:13Let's go with Don.
41:15Ready, set, go.
41:16Thank you very much.
41:20I don't want to be alone.
41:26Please name three of your best friends.
41:29Let's go with Don.
41:31Ready, set, go.
41:32Don.
41:35Jun Matsumoto.
41:37Jun Matsumoto is close.
41:39Jun is close.
41:41But if I were to name three,
41:44If you were to choose?
41:45I wish I could think of a name for my co-worker.
41:50This time, I'll go with Don.
41:52I wish I could think of a name for my co-worker.
41:55Did you two play baton touch?
41:57It was so exciting.
42:00Because of the relationship between the two of you.
42:02I don't know if it's just the two of us, but there are six people in total, so it would be nice if there was at least one person with 5 katakana characters.
42:09Let's take a picture.
42:11It was a fun time.
42:15You're a senior, right?
42:17That's right, I'm a senior.
42:19You're arrogant.
42:21I can't say I'm a best friend.
42:24I see, Mr. Muro was the last one today.
42:27Yes, thank you very much.
42:29It's hard to be a best friend.
42:32That's right.
42:34But I really had a lot of fun.
42:38It was really helpful.
42:40You always say you don't have an answer, but you don't have an answer.
42:45I had an answer every week.
42:50That's right.
42:51Every week, this program is limited.
42:53But it was a really valuable time.
42:55When I was next to Mr. Nakai, I couldn't say it at first, but I thought it was okay to laugh, so I couldn't go out.
43:03I didn't have a phone call, I didn't have a guest, and I didn't have to ring the bell on the Bistros map.
43:12I'm 48 years old, and I'm standing next to Mr. Nakai all of a sudden.
43:18Is there such a thing as life?
43:20Yes, there is.
43:22I thought it was amazing.
43:24I thought it was amazing.
43:27I thought Mr. Nakai was here again.
43:29But I have to open the door first.
43:32I'm really nervous.
43:34All the staff were really helpful.
43:38I'm really grateful that you accepted me.
43:42I really want you to say that.
43:44Thank you, Mr. Muro.
43:46Thank you very much.
43:48Thank you very much.
43:50Thank you very much.
43:53I won't leave you alone.
43:55It's a show that's about to collapse.
43:57It hasn't collapsed yet.
44:00See you next year!
44:06It's a renewal, a renewal.
44:08Next time, the unpublished talk of 2024.
44:15And a new MC will appear.
44:18Who will it be?