T.J. Lang joins Stoney and Jansen to discuss the Bears' huge time management gaffe at the end of the game in a 23-20 loss to the Detroit Lions.
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00:00TJ Lang is here as well got to see TJ and his lovely family yesterday at the
00:06game. Oh they all joined you? Yes they were great mm-hmm it was a lot of fun it
00:11was a thrilling game didn't need to be as exciting down the end but but it was
00:16and it was funny because I'd say I walked into your booth I was probably
00:20five minutes after the game and you guys and rightfully so we're still
00:23flabbergasted by what the Bears did. Oh that was incredible yeah and I don't
00:27even know what I don't even know what Eber Flus was trying to explain after
00:31the game like he was defending it saying hey we did it I think we did it the
00:34right way what were you trying to do? I think run the clock down and hit one
00:37Hail Mary to win the game? No what they were trying to do the plan was for them
00:42to get extra yard like ten more yards and then call a timeout and kick the
00:49field goal yeah that was the plan. That plan goes to nowhere when you get sacked
00:53right you know what I mean like now it's okay plan B. But there was still
00:58what 36 seconds left when he got sacked so there was still enough whatever there
01:03was still enough time to do what he wanted to do. Oh yeah that's plenty of time yeah. Yeah the
01:06problem was that where he in my opinion screwed up is when it was apparent
01:12that they were really confused they didn't know what the hell was going on
01:16Caleb didn't like the play that's when you call the timeout if they had you
01:20know got to the line ran their play then call the timeout which was his plan
01:25fine that's when you use the timeout but after a while you're sitting there
01:30watching the clock you gotta use it to call a timeout. It's below probably 12 seconds you're like okay
01:36this is well even before that you you've got it well if you don't take the time
01:41out to 12 seconds I'd say run a play then then you know you've got to hit the
01:46sideline you gotta get out of bounds if you call that play or if you call a
01:49timeout even at 22 seconds you can run a play and then have the Mayday unit
01:54come on and probably kick a field goal so at some point when Caleb is running
01:59around it's the coach has to say okay we're not this is not going according to
02:03plan right timeout young rookie it's like oh there's a lot of factors
02:08involved even season quarterbacks at that time don't always perform as you
02:13would expect as soon as you that clock starts running and you know that the
02:16guys aren't lined up you call timeout yeah you have to and yeah I put probably
02:21most of it on Caleb Williams I mean just having like no urgency in that situation
02:25and for and first of all the sack I think Caleb Williams forgot to play call
02:29he called the quarterback draw you can tell the tackles are just kind of letting
02:33the guys go and then the guys on the interior trying to run downfield and
02:36block linebackers and he didn't run the quarterback draw you know what I mean
02:39like he dropped back like a pass it it looked like he forgot to play call yeah
02:42and then that hold about yeah the operation taken eating up 30 seconds of
02:47the clock to finish I mean that was I put Ibra floos you know what you're the
02:51head man like yes when when you see something's going wrong and this is got
02:54to have it with must win or blue situation you got to have you got to be
02:59a little bit smarter than that and then Caleb Williams you got to have some
03:02urgency to it was incredible how we couldn't believe it I mean I didn't
03:06know we could believe it well like what are they oh my they're really gonna run
03:09the clock I'm out in their pocket and I'm Lomas is calling for he refuses
03:14job this is I want to know what the conversation was after because we're
03:20gonna listen to Dan Miller's call I could hear you guys somewhat laughing oh
03:24I mean it was here's funny here's Dan Miller's final call
03:39I said the background the ghost of George house is taking it he's gonna
04:01take advice from Lomas I love that yeah I mean it the Bears have what like three
04:07or four just devastating like Hail Mary in Washington like you know that was
04:14like a 40-yard that got blocked against Green Bay that's right a chip shot today
04:18and last week it's Minnesota they could have won that yeah I mean they were down
04:21right I mean they had a little comeback but yeah and then obviously yesterday I
04:25mean it's and then you could start to put tell the players even Keenan Allen
04:28was like I think the players did enough to win the game right he didn't throw
04:34the coach under the bus under the bus like he threw something to the referee
04:38now I'm even cable Caleb Williams I think kind of hinted he said something
04:43along the lines of you know hey right now I'm just listening to the coaches
04:48right I just yeah just want trying to do what the coaches are doing maybe if I'm
04:51a veteran player you know I might call a timeout myself in that situation but as
04:57of right now I'm just trying to do what the coaches are telling me I'm really
05:00just curious of of what they were trying to do like Ibrahimovic didn't
05:03explain it he just said hey we feel good about the operation and well he said
05:07they were they were gonna rewrack the play that was yeah I mean it's wrong
05:11you know what sometimes when dysfunctional teams get in their own way
05:14you just get the hell out of their way right let them let them let them do
05:17their thing you know and you know what and Stoney we talked about it too when
05:21we were in the booth last night that play first of all should have never
05:24happened that fast interference call was one of the worst calls I've ever seen
05:28it was terrible I mean Kendall Vildore like played it perfect that ball was
05:31nowhere close to TJ Moore and so you're sitting there going like oh my they
05:35really they're about to bail them out on that it was like that they wanted to
05:38make amends and there's not any amends for the legitimate call on commit the
05:42previous play yeah we call one on them we'll call one on yeah and then I think
05:47they got another one on the left guard I think was a hands-to-the-face Lee McNeil
05:51that ended up you know costing them some more yards which was a legit I mean it's
05:55no it was but yeah that played the game should have been over at the fourth and
05:5914 you know what I mean like the refs bailed him out a little bit but I guess
06:04it ended up in their little karma there at the end but man what a what a debauch
06:09I think coach Campbell when I got on with him yesterday before we started
06:13I'm like thank you for not ever making me ask you questions about that
06:25yeah well but here's the other thing is we talked about this earlier if that
06:29situation were reversed and Dan Campbell was in that situation and he was asked
06:36that question what do you think is because he already he talked about it
06:39when they lost at Tampa Bay like I think he says this loss is on me yeah Oh 100%
06:43whereas where's the overflows still like I'm you as many times as you play his
06:48postgame audio I still can't figure out what his what he was thinking yeah I mean
06:55it seems to me like he's just a guy trying to hold on to his job at this
06:57point yeah I mean there's been finish out the year yeah it's been weeks now
07:01maybe a month of you know the hot seat talking and the coaching decisions and
07:06you know I know he's not the one blocking for the field goal right he's
07:09not the one out there defending on a hill Mary but when you watch some of the
07:13little thing right you just what they're doing I mean it's either coached or it's
07:16allowed and you know when you're talking about the corner who's out dancing you
07:19know mocking the fans right yeah yeah yeah so I think that I think that when
07:27you just put that together he's if he were to come out what do you want him to
07:31say like he already knows the losses on him right he doesn't seem like the type
07:35of guy that's taking accountability especially when he's on the hot seat and
07:38probably can yeah read the room a little bit and probably understands what's
07:42what's called a real get ready well yeah at some point this
07:49weekend because the Bears have never fired a coach in season yeah they
07:53probably come out and give him the the dreaded vote of confidence which means
07:58you know we're we believe in you through the end of the season for the next month
08:03and a half I don't know you know who's running the Bears John one of your
08:08favorites Oh Kevin Warren yeah that he did a great job with the Big Ten
08:16still doing a mission here's your commission oh yeah I'm still doing a
08:19bang-up job with the with the Bears yeah stay there as long as you want yeah I
08:24say I say extend the Eberflues all right let's talk about battling with that team
08:30now just a portion he's not in Dallas yeah I got some real talent the injury
08:37situation with the Lions defense it's it's getting ridiculous I mean these
08:43guys did come out Muhammad had a really good game like you said Vildor ended up
08:47playing well David Long jr. fits in really nice Zeke Turner I mean that
08:53line 47 he kind of was a lot of special teams but he got some more playing time
08:57yesterday but but eventually especially if like you know Rodriguez had then said
09:03that his probably will be a longer term yeah but like next week against the
09:07Packers if you don't have Rodriguez and Pascal and who's Ricky and who knows
09:12about Carlton Davis let alone what we have already with Anzalone and and Hutch
09:16I mean how much can this defense you know survive yeah it's a good question I
09:24mean it's you felt yesterday you know the first half was like man this is so
09:28impressive because of the guys that they're missing you know they're missing
09:30a key player at every level of the defense and it didn't really look like
09:35it mattered now in the second half obviously Chicago kind of got some life
09:38and started making some plays through the air but yeah I think it's got to be
09:42a concern I mean you're down three of your top four linebackers you're down
09:45your top four defensive ends you know what I mean when you talk about Davenport
09:49Hutch right Paschal Levi's you know the defensive end so yeah I mean it
09:54secondary right a little bit banged up we didn't see Carlton Davis although
09:57coach I think what I asked coach yesterday was you know with those guys
10:01close speaking to him and Decker and he said you know I think he felt more
10:05optimistic about those guys maybe returning next week so that'll help
10:08what's the deal with Mosley I don't know yeah I don't know being inactive
10:12yesterday yeah like he tweaked his hamstring and warm-up but they said I
10:16didn't hear that I didn't know what happened that was that was an odd
10:19inactive only because yeah of the injuries that Carlton Davis obviously
10:23and Terry and Arnold was kind of on a pitch count he didn't even start the
10:25game he was more on a rotational basis but is that what they said mostly got
10:29hurt pregame warm-ups yesterday yeah no I mean that yeah that's that stinks that
10:34happened in that happened to rake straw I think at one point this year to got
10:38hurt pregame warm-ups obviously not an ideal time to get injured no when you
10:41heard got the game plan going in and maybe maybe it was his job to go out
10:45there and yeah that throws everything off but you just got to find a way you
10:49know what I mean the guys in that locker room you got to find a way you know it's
10:52a long season especially having the early bye week right you're I mean they
10:56you're going 13 in a row to finish three games in 11 days that they're gonna play
11:03by the time they get off the field next week against Green Bay so you just and
11:07you got to look at that man hey we got seven days left all right we got a
11:10division rival coming in we got to figure it out and then we get that long
11:13weekend yeah no but a tiny little mini body to get our bodies right but I still
11:18love the depth that they've built on this team I think that even the guys
11:21that like you mentioned David Long and Zeke Turner and these Muhammad these
11:25guys that have been in season acquisitions are coming in playing
11:28meaningful snaps and and making a difference so that's a testament to the
11:33coaching staff that's a testament to the leaders and man it's a testament to
11:36Aaron Glenn to like he understands what he's playing with out there he knows his
11:40personnel he adjusts to what he has to do second half got a little dicey but he
11:45still found ways in some big key moments to get his guys to make some stuff John
11:49mentioned earlier and I think you're right that maybe they played a little
11:52too much man towards the second half because those guys are starting to get
11:56you know worn down a little bit they were getting worn down and the Bears
12:00found routes that were that they couldn't cover DJ more on this oh yeah
12:06and you know you you talk about the pass rush was good at times yesterday but
12:11there were some times where Caleb got some time and it was like oh man I don't
12:15care who you got out there playing secondary that's that's gonna be a tough
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