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"A Conspiracy is being made to incite riots based on ethnicity and sectarianism in Pakistan..."Afnan Ullah's Statement
"A Conspiracy is being made to incite riots based on ethnicity and sectarianism in Pakistan..."Afnan Ullah's Statement
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00:00Let's go to the lobbies.
00:01In my program, Sher Afzal Marwat said about the Afghan citizens that there is no such
00:05discrimination that they should take part in the protest.
00:08Listen to that.
00:09There are 300,000 Afghans in Pakistan, and they have been here since 1989.
00:14They have become a part of Pakistan.
00:17They are a part of our economy, they are a part of our society.
00:21And if they are taking part in our political struggles, then there is no discrimination
00:26in this.
00:28Now, next, I asked Sheikh Waqas Akram how the PTI can defend this.
00:34Listen to his answer.
00:36PTI is not protesting for the first time.
00:39PTI does not need Afghans.
00:41If someone has come here generation-wise and has children, and those children are very
00:46small in Pakistan.
00:47If you see one, two or a few people protesting, then they are Pakistanis.
00:52What Sher Afzal has said is also not wrong.
00:55That is also right.
00:56What discrimination has he written in that?
00:59Mr. Shoaib Shaheen, the citizens of Afghanistan will protest in our Pakistani politics.
01:06The law does not allow it.
01:08If you put a Pakistani stamp on them, they do not become Pakistani.
01:12We also know that there were a lot of Afghan citizens who had become their allies in terms
01:18of terrorism.
01:19And we are sending them back.
01:21You are defending them.
01:24You are talking about making them a part of Pakistan's politics.
01:27Do you defend this, Mr. Shoaib?
01:29If you are sending them, then send them.
01:30Who has forbidden you?
01:31We are sending them, but you are defending them.
01:32You will also defend them, Mr. Shoaib, in your personal capacity and political capacity.
01:41Mr. Shoaib Shaheen, let's reconnect.
01:42This is a very important question.
01:43But Mr. Afnan, it is your responsibility that if Afghan citizens are taking part in
01:48their political campaigns, then you are sitting hand in hand.
01:53Isn't it your responsibility to send them?
01:55You brought them up there.
01:57After that, all the problems arose here.
01:59And now you are saying that they are in their rallies.
02:01So take responsibility.
02:03Look, we have repatriated many of them.
02:05We did it when the previous government of PMLN came.
02:09We did it this time as well.
02:11The thing is that this is not the way.
02:13You have a set of people who want this in this country.
02:17They want any form of violence or any form of damage to the country
02:23to be taken and blackmailed by the state.
02:26This will not happen.
02:27This will be something else.
02:28So this responsibility is on your shoulders.
02:30My request.
02:31If you cannot send Afghan citizens back to Afghanistan, that is your fault.
02:34No, no.
02:35It is not like that.
02:36We cannot send them back with an executive order.
02:39It is a very difficult and long process to send them back.
02:41But let me tell you something.
02:44It is very important to understand
02:46that in Pakistan, on the basis of secularism
02:48and sectarianism,
02:50there is a conspiracy to create disorder.
02:52And all these, especially the sectarian violence,
02:56all the scholars should also look at it.
02:58They deliberately did it last time as well.
03:00No, no, no.
03:02No, no, no.
03:04It is old.
03:05But when they want to protest, there is violence.
03:07This is not like that.
03:09This is a coincidence.
03:11I want to take an answer from Mr. Shoaib.
03:13I had put the question in front of you.
03:15I am waiting for your answer.
03:17Look, let me tell you one thing.
03:19If you go under the Citizenship Act,
03:21who have married here,
03:23who have children,
03:25who have been living here for 2-3 generations,
03:27then their rights have been accrued.
03:29This is the Supreme Court's decision.
03:31If you look at this recently,
03:33when they were removed,
03:35then that is a different class.
03:37And the second thing is,
03:39tell me, how many of our citizens
03:42have been convicted?
03:44Four have been convicted.
03:46Listen to me.
03:48Let me finish.
03:50These are false stories.
03:52Tell me,
03:54who controls the borders?
03:56Is the provincial government
03:58in their control?
04:00If there is terrorism coming from the borders,
04:02then they should control it.
04:04It is very easy.
04:06Who is the government in KPK?
04:08Tell me.
04:11Tell me, who is being protested against?
04:13What is the CTD saying?
04:15They are sitting here.
04:17They are not coming from the borders.
04:19They are saying,
04:21that you are getting terrorism done
04:23by colluding with them.
04:25Look,
04:27what can I tell you?
04:29They have made such a shameless
04:31Minister of Interior
04:33who is not even their own.
04:35They don't even know
04:37whose government this is.
04:39They start reacting.
04:41Let me tell you,
04:43the situation is like this.
04:45Listen, let me tell you something.
04:47The thing is,
04:49when the Taliban
04:51came to power,
04:53we were in power.
04:55Since that day,
04:57there have been so many incidents
04:59of terrorism.
05:01What happened in their time?
05:03The reason is,
05:0599.9% of terrorism
05:08is against us.
05:10In their view,
05:12who is the biggest terrorist in Islamabad?
05:14It is Shoaib Shaheen.
05:16Why?
05:18He is saying,
05:20you have done terrorism here
05:22and there.
05:24Let me take this answer from the Senator.
05:26The real problem is,
05:28as long as they don't
05:30put their institutions
05:32to end terrorism,
05:34this terrorism
05:36cannot end.
05:38I am putting the responsibility
05:40on their shoulders as well.
05:42Remember,
05:44as long as there is no synergy
05:46between KPK and Wifaq,
05:48Nasoor will not move from here.
05:50Senator Afnan and I
05:52are traveling as citizens.
05:54Please leave political affiliations
05:56and think about Pakistan.
05:58This is my request to both of you.
06:00But Senator,
06:02this is valid.
06:05Instead of saying,
06:07we don't want to negotiate,
06:09you should at least
06:11give them an olive branch.
06:13But,
06:15this is not a negotiation
06:17that we don't want to do.
06:19But, everyone is saying
06:21that there is no need for negotiation.
06:23The reason is,
06:25they are twisting the arm of the state.
06:27This will happen then.
06:29If you attack Islamabad,
06:31no one will talk to you.
06:34We have always tried
06:36to resolve matters
06:38through negotiation.
06:40But, these people
06:42have always taken the path of violence.
06:44They are saying that terrorism has increased.
06:46The nation is asking
06:48why you brought back 40,000 people.
06:50Why did you talk about this?
06:52Imran Khan himself has been saying this.
06:54The government did this, Mr. Shoaib.
06:56You are the government,
06:58why did you bring back 40,000 people?
07:00They have accused you of not having an interior minister.
07:02Wait a minute, Mr. Shoaib.
07:04Mohsin Naqvi is not your interior minister.
07:06He is.
07:08Are you owning him?
07:10He is a part of our government,
07:12how can I not own him?
07:14The thing is,
07:16they have brought back
07:18the seeds of terrorism
07:20and now they are accusing others.
07:22Why did you bring them back?
07:24Thank you very much, Senator.