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00:00Malik, I didn't understand one thing,
00:02because this statement of Bushra Bibi,
00:05let's leave the political consequences of it,
00:09but in the future,
00:11obviously Imran Khan is a popular leader of Pakistan,
00:14he can become the Prime Minister in the future,
00:17his party can come into power again,
00:20so how will the Saudis take this statement at that time?
00:25They didn't take the name of Saudis,
00:28they didn't say Saudis, to be fair,
00:30they said,
00:32General Bajwa got a call,
00:34General Bajwa denied that he got a call,
00:36but it could be an American,
00:38it could be a British, it could be anyone,
00:40Saudis said, when we came back from there,
00:43and then this call came,
00:45so I don't think we can say that they took the name of Saudi Arabia.
00:51Okay, whoever they took the name of,
00:53let's assume, I don't know,
00:55Bushra Bibi can tell you better,
00:57but the Americans,
00:59I don't think the Americans,
01:01or General Bajwa,
01:03completely denied,
01:05if Bushra Bibi has any evidence,
01:07then it's a different matter,
01:09but at this stage,
01:11what should be the meaning of this statement?
01:15The real thing is that at this stage,
01:17where there is a protest on 24th November,
01:19where there are news of talks,
01:21all of a sudden,
01:23this statement,
01:25this statement is out of context,
01:27it's not out of context,
01:29if you look at this,
01:31it's not out of context,
01:33I'm saying this,
01:35the first letter of Congress came,
01:37to President Biden,
01:39which was first sent by 60 people,
01:41then 40 people,
01:43then MPs wrote to the British MPs,
01:45to their Foreign Secretary,
01:47so in response,
01:49PMLN started saying,
01:51look, this Jewish lobby,
01:53but they are also being given an answer,
01:55that those who are saying,
01:57that they want to save the Jews,
01:59this is not the issue,
02:01they themselves wanted to kill us,
02:03so I think,
02:05I can see the context in that.
02:07Sir, look, it's very simple,
02:09at this time,
02:11in the circles of the establishment,
02:13the talks that are taking place,
02:15according to my knowledge,
02:17they are taking place on options,
02:19a question has been raised,
02:21that for how long
02:23can we keep them in jail?
02:25The second question is,
02:27that if there is an option
02:29to send them out,
02:31will they accept it or not?
02:33The third is,
02:35what is the solution to this?
02:37Look, there are two red lines of PTI,
02:39Imran Khan,
02:41the red line of the establishment is 9th May,
02:43now these two red lines,
02:45what is the solution
02:47to this?
02:49The news that has been going on
02:51since the last 4 days,
02:53that talks have taken place,
02:55contacts have been made,
02:57an environment has been created,
02:59because of which,
03:01the PTI workers are also confused,
03:03that the protest of 24th November
03:05is going to be postponed,
03:07talks have started,
03:09negotiations have started,
03:11because the word final call was used,
03:13because the last call,
03:15was bounced back,
03:17and because of that,
03:19there was a lot of anger among the PTI workers,
03:21that Ali Ameen has gone to Gandapur,
03:23all the slogans were raised,
03:25but after that, ultimately we came back,
03:27that is why,
03:29the word final call
03:31has been used,
03:33but tell me one thing,
03:35the government,
03:37the government also diffuses,
03:39what I read Imran Khan's statement,
03:41he says that,
03:43we are political people,
03:45if they are serious in their talks,
03:47then our undertrials should be released,
03:49they are giving them an opening,
03:51that at least,
03:53leave my talk,
03:55if the other undertrials,
03:57especially in Lahore,
03:59there are big leaders in Lahore,
04:01leave them,
04:03they are showing a way out,
04:05that if they do this,
04:07then let's delay it,
04:09talks have started,
04:11shouldn't the government take these offers?
04:15The problem is,
04:17that the government is not talking,
04:19the problem is,
04:21that the government is not talking,
04:23now on the other hand,
04:25I don't think that the government has cut
04:27a new FIR, all of a sudden,
04:29obviously, whoever is being talked to,
04:31there has been a development
04:33in the consequences of that,
04:35because of which,
04:37all of a sudden,
04:39if they would have got leave from Tosha Khana 2,
04:41then you would have guessed,
04:43that how many people of Imran Khan
04:45come for interrogation,
04:47what is the posture of Imran Khan,
04:49what kind of aggression
04:51Imran Khan shows,
04:53or doesn't show,
04:55or he goes straight to Bani Gala,
04:57and sits quietly,
04:59whatever it is,
05:01but I think,
05:03that too was not waited for,
05:05and a new FIR was cut,
05:07because that is a very easy solution,
05:09that in 9th May,
05:11the Judicial Commission should be formed,
05:13and the findings of the Judicial Commission,
05:15should be agreed upon,
05:17that if the findings of the Judicial Commission,
05:19should be agreed upon,
05:21that if the findings of the Judicial Commission,
05:23should be agreed upon,
05:25that if the findings of the Judicial Commission,
05:27should be agreed upon,
05:29that if the findings of the Judicial Commission,
05:31should be agreed upon,
05:33that if the findings of the Judicial Commission,
05:35should be agreed upon,
05:37that if the findings of the Judicial Commission,
05:39and I repeatedly hit him in the head,
05:41and I repeatedly hit him in the head,
05:43if he doesn't get this message,
05:45maybe he will understand,
05:47that the interlocutors,
05:49are not getting this message accepted,
05:51so Khan sir thought,
05:53if Bushra says something,
05:55then there is no doubt in it,
05:57will it make a difference or not?
05:59will it make a difference or not?
06:01I don't think,
06:03the situation till now,
06:05I don't think it will make a difference,
06:07but still there is something in him,
06:09that whatever happened,
06:11that whatever happened,
06:13obviously Imran Khan has his own opinion,
06:15obviously Imran Khan has his own opinion,
06:17he was also attacked,
06:19then this incident of 9th May,
06:21I don't think that the trust level is still high,
06:23I don't think that the trust level is still high,
06:25the trust level is still deficit,
06:27and it is the same way,
06:29it could have been a gesture,
06:31that they should be shifted from Adiala to Benigala,
06:33that they should be shifted from Adiala to Benigala,
06:35so till this level,
06:37there is no possibility of a gesture,
06:39so it seems that,
06:41before 24th November,
06:43and on 24th November,
06:45I think they want to test,
06:47that how much show of strength,
06:49Tehreek-e-Insaf shows,
06:51and what other things are included in their tactics,
06:53and what other things are included in their tactics,
06:55because what will happen after the final call,
06:57somewhere it will be settled,
06:59somewhere it will be settled,
07:01so you also say that it won't make a difference,
07:03I don't think so,