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Having good relations with China and the U.S, Brazil is determined to maintain and strengthen ties as the world’s largest economies gather in Rio de Janeiro for the G20 summit.

The G20 is comprised of 19 countries and Spain as a permanent guest, along with the EU and since last year the African Union. Juliet Mann spoke to Ambassador Eduardo Saboia, Secretary for Asia and the Pacific at Brazil's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

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00:00Well, I think the G20 has become the principal forum for discussing key international issues.
00:09The fact that it gathers the main economies, the largest economies, on an annual basis
00:17is very important.
00:18And I think this time in Brazil, the focus that we wanted to give to this, to our G20
00:29is development, precisely because it's an aspiration that Brazil and other countries
00:35of the South have.
00:38So there is a global alliance on hunger, eradicating hunger and poverty that has been launched,
00:48and also climate change, because they are related issues.
00:52There's no way we can race out of tea if we tackle the climate change agenda.
01:02What about China?
01:03President Xi has talked about enhancing ties with Brazil, and has also spoken about G20
01:09as a platform to amplify the voices of the global South more broadly.
01:14What's your take?
01:16I think China has been playing a very important role in those issues.
01:24It is a leader in production of goods related to energy transition, solar power, wind power,
01:36electrification.
01:38And it's very important that we are able to join forces with China.
01:42So in addition to the G20 meeting, we are very honored to host a high-level state visit
01:50with President Xi coming to Brasilia on the 20th for what will be a very important meeting
01:57with concrete results, raising the partnership between Brazil and China to a higher level,
02:04and also serving as an occasion to celebrate the 50th anniversary of our relations.
02:14President-elect Donald Trump won't be there, but everyone's talking about him and what
02:17his second term might mean for global trade and the future of G20, aren't they?
02:24Yes.
02:25Well, I think Brazil has excellent relations with the US, and we have excellent relations
02:32with China.
02:33Obviously, I don't deal with, let's say, US issues, but if you look at China and the US,
02:41they have very dense and complex relations, including economic.
02:47Their economies are kind of intertwined.
02:50So I think from our perspective, we want to continue to have good relations and strengthen
02:56our relations with China, and also do that in conjunction with the good relations that
03:02we have with the US.
03:04We want to see a world where dialogue prevails over conflict and, let's say, unhealthy competition.

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