👉 Con 35 años de servicio, Guillermo López, estaba a pocas horas de retirarse como Comandante Mayor de la Gendarmería, cuando cuatro delincuentes dispararon más de 20 veces en 15 segundos..
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00:00The four homicides have been identified, yes, and that in the course of the day the police of the province of Buenos Aires already thinks, considers that they are going to be arrested, but we are going to put a little bit in the situation.
00:16Yes, let's put it in context. Mauro, it was the topic of the week, without a doubt it was the topic of the week.
00:21We are watching the videos, we are watching the images, we have three camera angles that are cameras, not security, but cameras of the neighbors themselves, Mauro, who are showing us at this moment what was happening.
00:37In fact, look, Fer, that is one of the cameras that have circulated the images that we are observing at the moment here in Palomar, a mere 100 meters, a block from access west, and I emphasize this because generally these types of streets are easy to escape, that's why they are often used by criminals.
01:03The murder took place in this place where we are, in this same place, in this same corner where we are here in Palomar.
01:11What happened? The gendarme Guillermo López was circulating with his vehicle next to a colleague of this federal force when he was intercepted in this place.
01:23Notice that there is still the circle of what it is when the police do the inspections, where the bullet is surrounded.
01:33Then the autopsy determined that there were seven shots, that these four criminals shot him seven times to steal from him and logically end his life.
01:48Mauro, let me add it to Gaby Prosperi, this was one of the topics of the last hours, I would tell you, unfortunately, topic of the week, Lautaro Villamor is also going to provide us with some data.
02:01Gaby, I particularly wanted to ask you about the story behind this gendarme, why was he there, what was his life decision and how his life changed in seconds.
02:13Guillermo López, 55 years old, was about to withdraw from the gendarmerie force, he was serving in the Sentinela building, precisely the central building of this federal force.
02:29As he was about to withdraw, he had found with his family, his wife, his son, the house of his dreams.
02:38That house in front of where they killed him, they had bought it very recently, a few weeks, nothing more.
02:49How long was left for the withdrawal?
02:51Barely a few hours.
02:53Was that day the last day?
02:55That day or the day after, he was going to fulfill his last official day as a major commander of the gendarmerie.
03:05The dream of his life was to have a house with a patio, with the garage, with the corner, like the one he had bought with his wife, the effort of a lifetime.
03:19They had paid him $160,000 for the place where the house is, which is just in front of the one we are showing right now, the house that has the turret.
03:32I'm going to tell Mario, there goes Mario, that house, that house is the one that the gendarme had bought.
03:42It's a beautiful neighborhood.
03:44El Palomar, a residential neighborhood, with gardens, beautiful.
03:50And 100 meters from the east exit.
03:53Any house a few meters from any access to the east exit, the Buenos Aires-La Plata highway, the Pan American highway, is an alleged valorization.
04:08Yes, supposedly.
04:09Yes, the proximity to an access makes double sense. The one of valorization and which other?
04:15Today, unfortunately, that access, that proximity, is precisely a way of arrival and escape for criminals.
04:26That is why this area has become a powder keg of crime.
04:32And also this family, with the savings, with the effort of a lifetime, got that house because another, the previous owner of that house, decided to put it up for sale and get out of there at all costs.
04:48Why? Because of the number of robberies that they, that family that previously lived there, had suffered.
04:58Including criminals entering the house and reaching the bedroom of the couple during the early hours.
05:07Now you are going to tell me, because you spoke with neighbors during the week.
05:10I want to take advantage of Mauro, who is in the place, who showed us directly how the floor was marked after the examinations.
05:17But I want to take advantage of Lautaro.
05:19Where the pods were.
05:20Exactly, and I want to take advantage of Lautaro to tell me and add to this information that Mauro gave at the last moment of the identification of these criminals.
05:30Yes, look, yesterday in the afternoon they began to do labor in the army neighborhood of Los Andes, known as Fort Apache.
05:40All of us who are in the area and what we go through is the territory.
05:45We also know that many of the robberies will end there.
05:51It does not mean that all of them, because there is, let's say, the territory there is large and different neighborhoods converge.
05:59There are four people who are identified.
06:02One of them has a job in Blanco.
06:04We have acceded with the production to all the data.
06:10In order not to hinder the investigation, we are going to be cautious with them.
06:15But they are, let's see, the issue is, Fer, if the judge issues the arrest warrant a day later,
06:24do you think they will find him in the army neighborhood of Los Andes?
06:28He is no longer there.
06:30More sung than slow.
06:32They are not going to be there.
06:34This is obvious, guys.
06:36They went yesterday, they did all the paraphernalia and obviously they were not there.
06:39And I want to tell you, I know you are going with Mauro, who is at the scene of the events.
06:43Yes, I want to take advantage of it, Maurito.
06:45Now we come back, if not, tell me.
06:47No, no, I just want to tell you.
06:49I spoke with a police officer from a dependency of the area when I came here from there.
06:54And he told me about an area, let's see, here there is no liberated area.
06:59No one liberates any area.
07:01They do what they can, they work with what they can, with torn vests, with cars that do not ...
07:05With the elements they have, they do what they can.
07:08And the place is not a liberated area, but it ends up being liberated
07:12in the face of the impossibility of being able to give some kind of greater protection.
07:16But to see the place, to know where this happened.
07:19Fer, I wanted to give you some information.
07:22I have, well, I have friends in this area.
07:25In fact, I live or lived nearby.
07:30The area is uninhabitable.
07:33The houses are very important, they are very beautiful houses.
07:36And people sell them much cheaper than they are worth.
07:39So this house was worth much more.
07:41Precisely for that.
07:43Because having access to this, which Gaby was commenting on,
07:46the churros, let's say.
07:49Yes, they have a quick way out.
07:51They have a quick way out to leave.
07:53So this does not happen from now on.
07:56No.
07:57And I'm going to tell you, this is sold in the houses.
08:00My friends, I don't want to say their names,
08:05two years ago they also had to sell their house because the same thing happened.
08:09And it is getting more and more depressed.
08:11The area is getting more and more depressed.
08:12And not only is it happening here,
08:15it is happening in all the areas in the vicinity of El Palomar.
08:20All the cordon and all the nearby ring.
08:22I don't know if it's a deliberate area because I don't know,
08:24but I don't agree with Lautaro that I know,
08:31we know, and the authorities can't.
08:35They can't know, but you have to see what elements they have to be able to act.
08:39Mauro, I want you to show us first what the neighborhood is.
08:43Then tell us if you had the chance to talk to a neighbor.
08:48The image we see, which is the image they have up there,
08:51is that of a quiet place with a lot of green,
08:54with very nice houses,
08:56but houses that, as Gaby Mandato also said,
08:59have lowered their price, their price,
09:02and this has to do with what is being lived, Mauro.
09:04With the fear of being there, of living there,
09:07even though the neighbors say,
09:09the other time we talked to one of the neighbors who said,
09:11I've been living here for 20 or 30 years,
09:13unfortunately I have to get used to it, or I got used to it,
09:16but the sales posters, those that you are seeing,
09:19they multiply in the place, Mauro.
09:23Yes, yes, yes, of course, Fer.
09:26Let's see, this is what you remarked,
09:31when we talk about quiet, beautiful houses,
09:34we are talking about Palomar, Aedo, Ramo Mejia,
09:37all that more or less have a similar tuning.
09:40But come on, Marito, I'm going to ask our camera, Mario,
09:43Mario, get us to walk through this block,
09:46which is precisely the one that graphics us,
09:48not only a little bit like the houses that are here,
09:51all family, of tranquility,
09:53but also how close we are to access this
09:57and how feasible it is to escape from this area.
10:02Let's see, as we can see,
10:04both on one side, look at this one on your left, Marito.
10:06Yes, I see it.
10:07It's a very, very nice house too,
10:10with not so high bars,
10:12with not so high bars,
10:14and I also remark this because,
10:17because the episodes of violence or murder,
10:21like the one that happened with the gendarme,
10:23are more frequent here,
10:25that they attack you in the street,
10:27and that until they kill you,
10:29as happened with the gendarme,
10:31it generates a robbery entering the home.
10:34In this area, at least,
10:36and the last...
10:37Now we are going to see with a map,
10:39Mau, now we are going to see with a map
10:41and we are going to geolocate in the place.
10:44Villegas and Atahualpa.
10:45We are in Atahualpa and Villegas,
10:47now we are going to see it with a map.
10:49When you see it on the aerial map,
10:51in the satellite view that technology gives us
10:53to be able to see the map,
10:55you will realize how close this access is,
10:59the exit, how easy it can be.
11:01Now Gaby Prosperi and Lautaro are going to show us
11:04on the map how the escape could have been given.
11:07The escape is usually given from that area,
11:10but look, they are walking next to Marito.
11:13How much did they do?
11:14One block, block and a half?
11:15Yes, look.
11:16One block.
11:17Yes, no, no, no, less.
11:18Less, one block.
11:19One block, which I dare to say does not have 100 meters.
11:22Yes, you saw that some blocks are smaller.
11:25I dare to say that this block does not have 100 meters.
11:28You go out here and there is the access.
11:30Sure.
11:31You grab here, where we are grabbing,
11:34you go out to the collector,
11:36we are going to keep walking to show you
11:39how the situation is,
11:41and you automatically get into the access,
11:45because above, a few meters away,
11:48there is also the toll booth.
11:51Yes, then the entrance to the access
11:53becomes absolutely, precisely accessible
11:57for anyone who requires it.
12:00Look, here we observe that, for example,
12:02in front of this house,
12:04there are those wires that are electrified.
12:07Yes.
12:08This house with a concrete fence,
12:11but the spikes above.
12:13Yes, with wire.
12:15Look, with spikes, this other one.
12:17And yes, it is the way to protect yourself.
12:19Now, I repeat, it is a beautiful place,
12:21with beautiful houses, with a neighborhood.
12:24Yes, very beautiful.
12:25It is a neighborhood that, if I take away the news,
12:28which is regrettable and has been the news of the week,
12:31Gaby, it is a neighborhood that is nice to think about
12:34in a retreat, as the Commander-in-Chief thought.
12:36It was the home of the dreams of a family.
12:40I was, hours after the murder,
12:44there, talking to a neighbor.
12:48A neighbor who, three months ago,
12:51who rented right in front, in parentheses,
12:54lives in a house on the ground floor,
12:57with a plate door that divides the sidewalk of his house,
13:01but in front of the plate door, another gate of bars.
13:04Look.
13:05With key and padlock.
13:06Of course.
13:07Why?
13:08So that the kickers don't enter.
13:10Of course, they don't break a kick there.
13:12This woman, Fer,
13:14told me that she had the opportunity to talk
13:16with the widow of Guillermo López,
13:19when she approached the house
13:21to do some kind of renovation,
13:23to see how they were going to decorate such a place,
13:25how they were going to paint such another.
13:27So, this woman, happy because they were the new owners,
13:31started chatting with the neighbors.
13:34This neighbor, who lives in front,
13:36talking to this woman, warned her.
13:38You bought that house from a family
13:42that had been robbed several times.
13:44You know they come to a dangerous,
13:47difficult situation from the point of view of security, right?
13:51Today's widow of Guillermo López answered her.
13:54There is no problem.
13:56My husband is a gendarme.
13:57He is about to retire.
13:59From the point of view of security,
14:01we are not going to have any problem
14:02because we know how to defend ourselves.
14:04Of course.
14:05Days later, he found death in this health attack.
14:08The day he was going to retire.
14:10Lautaro.
14:11Yes.
14:12Now we continue with Mauro.
14:13Mauro geolocated us in the place.
14:15The access showed us how in 30 seconds,
14:18walking, they were on the highway.
14:21Well, but to understand a little more,
14:23let's see it on this map.
14:25This satellite map,
14:26which allows us to geolocate and locate
14:29in the place where we are.
14:31What you saw there,
14:33where or how is it represented here, Lauta?
14:35Well, look.
14:36That's the corner.
14:37Yes.
14:38We're going to go.
14:39This is the corner where the event happened, right?
14:42This is Palomar.
14:43Palomar.
14:44This is the house he had bought.
14:46Exactly.
14:47That's where the tower is.
14:48That's where the tower is.
14:49That's what Gabi was marking.
14:50That's the house.
14:51We're getting closer.
14:52You can see it clearly from the roof.
14:54But when we go away,
14:56I want to show you the access to this
14:58and I want to show you several issues
15:00that are very important to take into account.
15:02There you have the access to this.
15:04Marito just walked next to Mauro.
15:07They walked from this point.
15:09They took this street, which is Atahualpa, right?
15:11Of course.
15:12They took that street.
15:13Exactly.
15:14And they got there.
15:15There.
15:16This corridor.
15:17You have several issues to take into account.
15:19One of them, and this is no less,
15:22I was talking to this person,
15:24I'm telling you, with this source of a dependency,
15:26is the change of jurisdiction.
15:28For example, you have,
15:29we'll look for it later, not now,
15:31there is a street that is Gaona Avenue.
15:33Yes.
15:34On this side of Gaona, Ramos Mejia,
15:36La Matanza.
15:37On the other, Villa Sarmiento Morón.
15:39That block, for a long time,
15:41was destroyed because no one fixed it.
15:44Neither one nor the other took care of it.
15:46But you will tell me,
15:47well, this is something administrative.
15:51No, no.
15:52Because if one begins to notice,
15:54the federal forces,
15:55in a moment we are going to talk about Piyín,
15:57because we have, Bracamonte,
15:59news related to the case of the murder
16:01of the now former chief,
16:03La Barra Brava, of Rosario Central.
16:05The federal forces were removed from these accesses
16:08to be able to go to Rosario.
16:13It would be good to look for the proximity,
16:16do you know with what?
16:17With what?
16:18With the army neighborhood of the Andes.
16:19There we look for it.
16:20Wait, before moving the map
16:21and leaving it at this zoom level,
16:23which will serve us.
16:24This was the house of the gendarme.
16:26Yes.
16:27He was murdered in this corner.
16:28Just Mauro walked a block,
16:31and I would say half,
16:32because here is the post, right?
16:34Here is the toll booth.
16:36Here you can escape.
16:39In other words, crimes occur in this neighborhood,
16:41they occurred in the last times in these neighborhoods, right?
16:44But just by moving,
16:46you have the opportunity to access.
16:48But look, the criminals accelerate
16:52and run away in a straight direction.
16:57Right?
16:58That is, they take from the house
17:00to what would be the west.
17:02They turn to the right,
17:03and notice that you have a street
17:05of access to the crossing of the west access.
17:08Look at the street you have below.
17:10Look there on the west highway.
17:12Look at that street.
17:14It is only a few meters from where they killed Guillermo López.
17:20They use that street precisely
17:24to cross the other side of the highway,
17:26and there they have access to the Carlos Gardel neighborhood,
17:30which is very close from here,
17:32much closer than Fuerte Apache,
17:34which is the army neighborhood of Los Andes.
17:35Behind Posadas.
17:3620, 30 blocks.
17:37Exactly, behind the hospital Posadas.
17:39Because from the Fuerte Apache neighborhood,
17:41army of Los Andes,
17:42you are about 60, 70 blocks from there.
17:44The Fuerte Apache neighborhood
17:46is closer to General Paz than the west access.
17:49But what happens?
17:51This gang of criminals
17:53had contacts within the army neighborhood of Los Andes
17:55because they left and set the car on fire
17:59in which they killed Guillermo López,
18:02practically in the heart of the neighborhood.
18:05Yesterday we were there with the police.
18:07Can I ask you something?
18:08Because I don't understand a situation.
18:10From the images we saw,
18:12I see a vehicle entering.
18:14We have the video, this video.
18:16Look.
18:17I see a vehicle entering the scene,
18:20of which at least four people leave.
18:22I think there were five,
18:24there are four who leave and the one who was driving, right?
18:26Well, it doesn't matter.
18:27They leave and they are going to attack the vehicle.
18:30Do they see that the gendarme takes his gun?
18:34Yes or no?
18:35No.
18:36In the video that we have from behind,
18:39or from the back of the murderers,
18:42it doesn't seem that the gendarme disassembled a weapon.
18:46But we don't know what it says.
18:48I want to understand something.
18:49These people,
18:50what was the objective of these people?
18:52Steal the vehicle?
18:53The vehicle.
18:54Sure?
18:55The vehicle.
18:56The objective was to steal the vehicle?
18:57Yes.
18:58Because I don't see...
18:59Why are they going straight to shoot?
19:01I don't see time in which...
19:03And from behind.
19:04I don't see a moment in which they realize
19:06that they can't steal and shoot.
19:08That's what I didn't understand about the video,
19:10what I don't understand about the video.
19:11Actually, because we can't hear
19:12what the gendarme says,
19:13because fulfilling his duty,
19:15the gendarme has to be known
19:17as a security force,
19:18as an agent of the security force.
19:20There is the possibility that he has identified himself,
19:22and when he identifies himself they say,
19:23we abort the robbery, we kill the person.
19:25Exactly.
19:26So the gendarme fulfills his duty.
19:28Look, there we can describe...
19:29There they go down.
19:30The one who kills the gendarme is the one who passes.
19:33The number one is the one who supposedly shoots,
19:36the deadly shot,
19:37the one who passes behind the car.
19:38Not these two who shoot
19:39and even hit the roof of the car.
19:41Of course.
19:42With the bullets.
19:43Yes, yes.
19:44The one who goes down and passes behind the car
19:46is the one who gives the deadly shot to the gendarme.
19:48Look at it now, right?
19:49Guys, I don't know if you are interested,
19:51but I was talking to neighbors
19:54close to this event.
20:01They are telling me,
20:03how can it be that we live like this?
20:06Well, I'm going to summarize it,
20:08because it's a lot.
20:10We live with the houses electrified.
20:15We live with the skewers that we just saw.
20:20You are going to tell me,
20:21and repeat a little what I say, right?
20:24Are you going to tell me seriously
20:26that none of the authorities
20:28know what is happening right now?
20:31Tell all your colleagues
20:34that if the area is not liberated,
20:36that someone explain to us
20:39why this is happening to us.
20:41But no, Gaby, because you are out of line.
20:43No, no, I'm...
20:44Don't keep the messenger.
20:45I understand you, but no.
20:47I'm just saying that...
20:49I'm talking about neighbors that we are seeing,
20:52that we are talking about,
20:54almost close,
20:56that they are there, you understand me?
20:58But logical.
20:59I mean, they don't understand
21:01how we are passing these images to the air.
21:05And they are telling me
21:07that they understand that the gendarme is a gendarme.
21:10They are saying that he is an important person,
21:12that is why he is in all the media.
21:14But that before the death of this gendarme,
21:16many have died.
21:17Yes, of course.
21:18Guys, many have died
21:20that we have not reported.
21:22What happens is that, Gaby,
21:24what we have to establish as journalists
21:28is that, although we can even coincide
21:31with who is sending you the message,
21:33as professional journalists,
21:35if we do not have accurate data
21:37that there is indeed a liberation of the area,
21:40we cannot delve into that hypothesis.
21:44In fact, we are not saying it.
21:46Of course.
21:47I'm just telling you.
21:49It is the feeling of a neighbor.
21:51It is the feeling of a neighbor who is somewhere.
21:54Now, Gaby, now we are going to listen to neighbors
21:56because Mauro is working in the place
21:58and now he is going to have contact
22:00with a neighbor who wants to participate.
22:03No, I don't know if he wants to participate.
22:05Well, now we contact them.
22:07I know that surely,
22:09I know that surely the neighbor thinks ...
22:13Of course, there is an important situation.
22:17I understand that the neighbor of the place
22:20wants more security.
22:22He wants this not to happen again,
22:24nor this, nor the robberies,
22:25nor anything that happens.
22:26But there must also be a fear
22:28of the neighbor to manifest in that place.
22:31Last week we were able to have some testimony, Gaby,
22:34of a neighbor who told us,
22:35I have been living here for 20, 30 years.
22:37Yes, of course.
22:38And I asked him,
22:39and you don't want to move like this family
22:42who decided to sell their house,
22:44as Gaby said very well,
22:45even below the value it should have, precisely.
22:50I have been living here for 20 years.
22:51I was robbed eight times.
22:53Maybe the next one has the fatal fate of the gendarme.
22:57But I'm already resigned.
22:59But look at the cars we have in the corner.
23:02The properties are for sale.
23:03Because he tells me that they are known,
23:05that they are known in the neighborhood,
23:06that it is not the first time that they are sold.
23:08To the kids?
23:09Yes.
23:10They are afraid to go out.
23:11The neighborhoods too.
23:12There are two who know,
23:14who know who it is,
23:15and who are afraid to go out
23:17because they are afraid of the repression.
23:19Fer, you know,
23:20our job as a journalist is, in this case, to find out.
23:23And one if ...
23:24Because here it is not ...
23:26We also talked about it in the production.
23:29Here there is no issue,
23:30we are not with a particular neighborhood,
23:32or a particular area.
23:33This happens everywhere.
23:34And in fact,
23:35here we have a recount of all the episodes
23:37that we have been seeing.
23:39When we reconstructed these images,
23:41that Prosperi,
23:42who was working in the area all week,
23:44marked who was the one who shot Quemarropa,
23:47one would say ...
23:48And I agree with your analysis.
23:50Hey, adjust ...
23:51What are you looking for?
23:53What I wonder is how,
23:55so fast,
23:56they clicked
23:57of
23:58we come to steal
23:59and suddenly we come to kill.
24:01They are upside down.
24:02So,
24:03one explanation may be that,
24:04another explanation may be what Prosperi said to us,
24:07or Voslauta,
24:09that when they turn around,
24:10they identify that it is a security force,
24:13or the high message they have to give,
24:16and in that way they identify that it is ...
24:18Let's keep working live in the place.
24:20Now, the people who move,
24:22because we are going to contextualize
24:24how it is being lived,
24:25not only in El Palomar,
24:27but in other places,
24:29and many more guarded than this.
24:31Because during this week,
24:33we have had,
24:34there very close in Villa Sarmiento,
24:36the assault on colleagues.
24:38Yes?
24:39Remember that.
24:40They stole colleagues,
24:42with camera on,
24:43and the cameras,
24:44as now they have a connectivity,
24:46from certain backpacks,
24:47and data that they transmit live,
24:50they did not realize that they were putting
24:52the camera on,
24:53in the very place where they were going to be guarded.
24:55And they were,
24:56they were self-recorded, in quotes,
24:58in the neighborhood Carlos Gardel.
25:00But where are the people going
25:02who have economic possibilities
25:04to feel safer?
25:05Because also this week,
25:07we have had several assaults in countries,
25:10and the most prestigious,
25:12in the northern area, in Pilar,
25:14with shooting within the perimeter of the country.
25:17That is ...
25:18One usually believes,
25:19or historically usually believes,
25:20is that when one goes to a closed neighborhood,
25:21to a country,
25:22has more security,
25:23and then there are also events
25:25within the country itself,
25:28that surprise and impact.
25:30We have to take into account, Fer,
25:32the increasingly increasing boldness
25:36of these criminal gangs.
25:38That is,
25:40they kill a gendarme in front of his house.
25:43They steal journalists,
25:44who were not alone and isolated,
25:46covering a fact,
25:48somewhere dangerous.
25:50They were all colleagues,
25:51practically all channels,
25:52in a room.
25:53And we mark it for this,
25:54we mark it for this,
25:55they are citizens,
25:56citizens are all important,
25:57but if they get to the point of grabbing
25:59a camera that is transmitting live,
26:01to steal,
26:02it is that nothing matters anymore.
26:03Nothing.
26:04Not for the journalist himself,
26:05that is understood.
26:06The citizen is important,
26:07all citizens are important.
26:08What in a way impacts is,
26:10you know what?
26:11Before they were afraid of a camera on.
26:13No, and there were also several journalists
26:14who were in the same situation.
26:16They attack,
26:17they do not care if you are isolated,
26:18if you are in a group,
26:19if you are in a band,
26:20if you are in a country.
26:21And the image was recorded
26:24of when they took the camera,
26:26everything they recorded,
26:27and the place where they were guarded.
26:28We'll be back in a moment.