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00:00two young leaders who are using their platforms to educate voters.
00:04Lene Vanee, who is a three-time NAACP Image Award nominee,
00:10a BET Culture Class of 2024,
00:13a social media phenom,
00:14and the founder of the Good People Project.
00:17We also have Joshua Joseph,
00:19who is a political content creator,
00:21and his viral videos have helped to educate
00:23the next generation of changemakers.
00:25Joshua is also a part of the Good People Project.
00:29For the record, Lene is returning to us.
00:32She joined us a few weeks ago on Paint the Poles,
00:36and she's joining us again.
00:37So thank you so much, Lene Vanee, for joining us.
00:41Joshua, thank you for joining us as well.
00:45Absolutely. Thank you guys for having us.
00:46Thank you for having us.
00:47How are you all doing?
00:49Good, good.
00:50Excited for tomorrow.
00:52We're feeling good.
00:53Yeah.
00:54Nervous.
00:56Nervous.
00:57I thought they talked about the anxiety.
00:58I'm not the only one with anxiety.
01:00I don't know. I feel something in me.
01:02I wanted to get up here and do my little, you know,
01:04hee-hee, ha-ha.
01:05I'm scared, but I have a lot of faith.
01:08I have a lot of faith in the work that we've been doing
01:12to get people the information.
01:13I'm sorry, there are sirens coming down my street.
01:15I don't know if you can hear them.
01:17But the work that we've been doing to get people information,
01:20you know, myself and JJ, we do this for a living.
01:22You know, we've been doing this, you know,
01:24before VP Harris was at the top of the ticket,
01:28before a lot of the world events took place that got people
01:32galvanized in a different way and moved in a different way.
01:35But the way that it seems like almost every resource in
01:39the community has geared itself up to protect this top-of-ticket
01:44candidate and protect the information surrounding and protect
01:47community and making sure that they have all the tools
01:51that they need to make informed decisions.
01:53That makes me excited.
01:54That makes me hopeful.
01:55That makes me faithful.
01:56So I am, my butterflies are going, but I feel so grounded
02:03in this moment.
02:03It feels like history is about to be made for sure.
02:06Well, Lene, let's dig into that a little bit more.
02:09You have a phenomenal initiative called the Good People Project.
02:13Talk to folks about what that project is, why you started
02:17it, and what you hope to achieve.
02:19For sure.
02:20So before VP Harris was at the top of the ticket and when
02:25the attacks on Gaza were really moving people in the ways
02:31that they should have, like people who are interested in
02:34freedom for Black folks and freedom for everybody,
02:38it caused a lot of conversation and necessary conversation.
02:41And what I started to see a lot of was people wishing
02:43to divest from this election season completely, and that
02:47scared me because in this era, we've not yet been able
02:53to collectively come together and organize strategically
02:56and exercise our vote in a manner fully and completely
02:59to get the results that we need.
03:01And hearing Hill Harper and Ryan and all the guys talking
03:05earlier, it makes so much sense.
03:06One, yes, we have.
03:07We've had someone who's had a year-and-a-half campaign
03:09versus someone who has a 90-day campaign.
03:12But also, we have a lot of people who are disappointed
03:15with being sold hope, disappointed with the Make America
03:21Great Whatever, obviously, and just not feeling like their
03:23vote matters at all.
03:25But in reality, we've not really been voting as extensively
03:29as we need to vote to make sure the things that we're
03:31hearing people talk about and promise us when it comes
03:34to election season and all the things that they're giving
03:36to different communities, we're not making sure there
03:38are people in the room to make sure that stuff trickles
03:40down from the top.
03:42And so what I felt like we needed more of was education.
03:44And so the Good People Project, someone else has that
03:47name, but it is my project, and I've developed two organizations,
03:50one being the Good People Collective, which is the C3.
03:53That's all about education.
03:54It is civics class, because we need civics class, because
03:57if I hear another time, what we hear is, has it already
04:00done? She's been the vice president.
04:02People do not know what a vice president does, and it's
04:05no shame.
04:06I think it's intentional.
04:07Our education system doesn't put enough emphasis and clarity
04:10around the way government works so people can have an accurate
04:12understanding as they're going to the voting booths. On
04:15the other side, we have the Good People Party, and that
04:17is where we endorse specific candidates that align with
04:20our interests and with our agreements.
04:22And if I'm being completely transparent, studying the Project
04:252025 gave me the crux of the idea for the framework for
04:30the Good People Party, because what I noted is that no
04:32matter what folks on that side may believe, they know what
04:36to do when it's time to vote.
04:37They know what to agree on when it's time to get things
04:39done and policy and legislation.
04:42And so we have to have things that we agree on.
04:44We are such a community that is divided based upon our
04:46individual needs and desires, based on our individual
04:49identity politics, based on whether people feel like other
04:52people or other minority groups are getting their rights
04:56before others.
04:57We've got to drop a lot of those unnecessary barriers and
05:01conflicts in order to be strategic and be unified.
05:04So that's what Good People is about.
05:06It's about, one, making sure you have the information to
05:09know what you're talking about and know what you need, and
05:12on the other side is making sure you know who is putting
05:15in place to get you there.
05:17So Lene, where can folks find out more about the party
05:20and the work that you're doing?
05:21You can find out about more of it on my page.
05:24You can find about it on the We Are GPP page, but we have
05:28websites built.
05:29We are a brand new organization.
05:31JJ is part of the content creator cohort.
05:34It was important for us to pull in the content creators
05:36who, like I said, have been doing this for a living far
05:38before any of this, but far before a lot of folks started
05:42paying politically minded content creators to do content
05:46because we just thought it was right.
05:47And so we wanted to reach out to those folks who would do
05:49this on a volunteer basis, and that is the type of people
05:52that we have.
05:52We have a reach of over 12 million, consciously, as a part
05:56of our cohort.
05:57He is in South Africa doing the good fight and also fighting
06:00his sleep, so he could not make it here with us today.
06:04But as I said, we're a brand new organization, so our
06:07initiatives are pretty new.
06:09We had a really cool opportunity to do a South Georgia
06:12bus tour to go to different HBCUs and engage with Black-owned
06:16businesses and citizens in areas that don't get all the flash
06:21and funfair and rallies that come to the metropolitan areas.
06:25And that was a really beautiful thing.
06:26So you will definitely be hearing more about us because
06:28also we're not just here because of a presidential election.
06:32We're here to make sure that you understand that the fight
06:34doesn't stop tomorrow.
06:37Thank you for that work.
06:38And we will ask you to come back in another iteration after
06:42the election, so we can make sure we engage folks because
06:45that's the key, right?
06:46We want to make sure that folks understand it's not just
06:49about voting for the election.
06:51It's about what do you do?
06:52And the work that you're doing definitely ties into that.
06:55So, but I know Ebony has a few questions.
06:58I did.
06:58You mentioned, you know, the bus tour and the young people
07:02that you were reaching out to.
07:04What has been, if you've talked to anyone that's had voter
07:08apathy, what have you heard among young people and was
07:13there anything that you said that could have swayed, that
07:17did sway them at all?
07:19JJ, I'll start with you and then go back to Lene.
07:22Yeah, it's been a very interesting election cycle
07:25for me because this is the first time I'm ever getting
07:27to vote, even though I've been making political content
07:29on the internet since I was like 16, 15.
07:33So it's been feeling like a lot of trying to advocate
07:36for different stuff.
07:36But the thing is, you oftentimes don't get to see the
07:39direct impact that it has on like people around you.
07:43Like I'll get a lot of like messages and I understand
07:45that a lot of people like watch my content, they value
07:47it, but it's a different thing when you get to like speak
07:50to people like who I went to school with, who I grew up
07:52with and have a direct influence on whether or not they're
07:55going to vote.
07:56I know I currently live with two of my closest friends
07:58who have also never voted, mainly because we just became
08:01of age to do so, but also because they didn't really feel
08:04invested in politics and they got invested through me
08:08and through like the stuff that I'll talk about.
08:10So that obviously means a lot, but a lot of the big
08:12broader conversation that I see, especially with my
08:15generation when it comes to voter apathy is like acknowledging
08:20that the scope of our issues is very massive and that
08:23there's blame on all types of different sides where
08:25it's not like one side of our duopoly in the United
08:29States is all good and the other side is bad.
08:32It's a lot more nuanced than that.
08:33The conversation is a lot more nuanced.
08:35So I feel like a lot of people, especially when it comes
08:37to what's happening in Gaza and other like crises around
08:41the world, a lot of people, especially my generation,
08:43are very eager to be like, okay, we're not going to participate
08:47in this because I think it's a benefit of my generation
08:50that we tend to be very like ambitious and bullish
08:54in the stuff that we want to change and the systems
08:56that we want to break down to restructure them and
08:59change them. But there also needs to be a strategic
09:02lens that we come about that from and it's been trying
09:04to convey that to people, especially in my generation
09:07that has been like pretty difficult, but I feel like
09:09I've been making decent inroads and acknowledging
09:11that like, yes, the Democrats are not the best for the
09:15job that we have to do, especially to undo a lot
09:19of the systemic like oppression and barriers and stuff
09:22that have been built throughout the founding of America.
09:25But also we have to acknowledge that when there's a
09:27critical threat that will put everything on the back
09:30burner just to be able to, you know, like survive
09:33from a day-to-day, that critical threat being Donald
09:35Trump or a further decline into fascism. That is something
09:39that we need to also be able to adjust to and it's not
09:43like it's like even but you know, one side is really
09:46bad. It's like, no, we have to actually sit down and
09:48discuss these policy initiatives. What has been
09:50accomplished? What can be accomplished? And I think
09:53that conversation has led to a lot of younger people
09:57getting more invested again and turning out for this
10:00election. At least I hope. I think their early numbers
10:03look pretty good, but like especially given how much
10:06work needs to be done after this election. I feel like
10:09a lot of younger people are focused on that and hopefully
10:14they a lot of us understand that there is also steps
10:17to that process and this step at least in my opinion
10:19has to be getting out there and voting tomorrow.
10:21Uh, yeah, uh, do you want me answer as well? Yes.
10:26Yes. Yeah. So JJ didn't get to go on the bus tour
10:29with us. Um, but what I witnessed one is a lot of
10:33kids that showed up on our stops on the bus tour
10:35were politically engaged and invested. They wanted
10:38to be there. And what was exciting though, was them
10:42asking questions about how do I get my classmates
10:44that don't care to care? And we went through an
10:47entire exercise. I used to be a high school teacher
10:49and so I talked to them about backwards design. I
10:53think one thing young people and people who don't
10:55feel represented by government or feel like
10:58government doesn't affect their everyday life. The
11:00thing that they have in common is that they're
11:03focused on just their personal life, their everyday
11:06sustainability, and they may not understand that
11:08that's directly connected to their voting power,
11:11but it is. And so one thing I encourage them to do
11:14was to lead with what matters and ask questions.
11:18You know, no one knows. No one cares what you know
11:20until they know that you care. And I feel like that
11:22is one of the best ways to reach people. And it
11:24might take longer. It might involve more
11:26conversation, but it's almost like the way religion
11:29is taught. It's almost like the way black history
11:31has been taught, which is the reason why I dedicated
11:34myself and my storytelling to bringing people in
11:36and engaging people because it feels stuffy. It
11:39feels so far removed. But if we're leading with
11:41things like if you got $10 million today, how would
11:45you get back to your hood? Then we get to know
11:47what they care about. Then we get to know what
11:49things like touch them emotionally and like have
11:52certain trigger points that bring out things that
11:54they feel invested in. What else did I share with
11:57them? Like determining who they feel like is
11:59their community, determining what it is exactly
12:02that they are focused on career wise and how
12:05things might be connected to permits or how
12:07certain plans from particular candidates may
12:12invest in their goals for their future. So leading
12:15with these things then trailing it back to a
12:17conversation around voting is usually typically
12:20successful. Um, I did meet other young people
12:22that might not have been in college, but just
12:24might be young in adulthood. And what I saw
12:27from them, those who were not interested in
12:29voting, what they said is once again, they do
12:32not feel like voting really impacts their personal
12:34life. And one person previously incarcerated
12:37said he didn't even know if he could vote and
12:39more than anything, they felt like their vote
12:41would not matter. And one thing that I keep
12:43impressing upon people that give me that
12:45sentiment, I'm not even gonna tell them that
12:47they should vote. I mean, most of these folks
12:49aren't registered. But what I do say to them
12:52for you to be incarcerated and not know if you
12:53can vote is on purpose for you to feel for you
12:59as a black person. If you wanted to be able to
13:01vote in this particular area that we're in to
13:04have this, this, this and this be in the way of
13:06your voting voter suppression. These all all
13:08of these things should be indicators that your
13:10vote is actually powerful, that your vote
13:12actually does matter, that there would not be
13:14so much in the way of your vote if it would
13:17not be impactful, if you would wield it in
13:19service to yourself. And so I think a lot of
13:22people are encouraging people who don't want
13:23to vote to vote for your Children vote for your
13:25future vote for people who can't vote. We have
13:29to make the vote personal, and that is going
13:31to be one of the only ways to motivate people
13:33in the beginning. But once people get into
13:35the work, then they can start voting for
13:36community. But we have to bring them in with
13:38the personal. So let's let's talk about that
13:41a little bit more in terms of getting into
13:43the personal. Let's just assume you have some
13:45young people or some older folks who haven't
13:48really paid a lot of attention during this
13:50election, right? They didn't watch the debates.
13:53They haven't read the policy papers. Um, and
13:56they are now on Election Eve trying to figure
14:00out who to vote for whether to vote. What's
14:04your message to that person who may be
14:06watching this, who may watch this on YouTube
14:08tomorrow, wake up, have an opportunity to go
14:11out and vote. But they may not be deeply
14:13steeped on any specific issue, really. Um,
14:18what's your message to to those folks? I
14:22would say this feels heady. Um, and I think
14:26people think that we're fear mongering when
14:28we say this, but I honestly believe that our
14:31freedom of expression is at stake. Our
14:34cultural expression is at stake. When I look
14:36at the things in the in Project 2025 that
14:40leave up to discretion about what is moral,
14:43what is morally acceptable, what is
14:45inappropriate, um, talks of like sex education,
14:49queer identity, black identity, the way we
14:52tell stories, where we express ourselves to
14:54the music, the ways and I and I have, I'm a
14:57multi hyphenate because I have different hands
14:59in different pots and doing different things.
15:01But developing TV shows that we like to watch
15:04all these things are at stake with the threat
15:08of a government that wishes to be so deeply
15:10entrenched in our in our personal autonomy,
15:13the way that we creatively express ourselves.
15:16That is scary, but it's also very real and
15:18it's on paper. So what I would say to people
15:21who feel like this is an election that they
15:23don't have to take part in, I would just say
15:26that you're gonna have to be sat with the
15:29result, you know, like you're going to have
15:31to. I don't I don't know what else to say.
15:35Other than that, like it's where we're day
15:38before the election,
15:40our livelihood is at stake and I don't think
15:44people take it that serious. But countries
15:48that were previously democracies and are now
15:51authoritarian are looking at us and say, I
15:53remember exactly what that looks like. They're
15:56saying that used to be us. And I think American
15:59exceptionalism, American exceptionalism and
16:02the ways in which American government and
16:05systems work to silo people off in their own
16:08world of problems makes us think that we can
16:10never get there. But that whole saying of a
16:13threat to justice anywhere is a threat to
16:16justice everywhere is true because
16:19they will call you lucky for what you're
16:22experiencing in comparison to somebody else,
16:24as long as it's not that bad until it gets to
16:27be that bad. And we're on the verge of that
16:29bad.
16:31If I could like piggyback off of that, I think
16:35I try to take it to like a example that does
16:39affect your everyday life or that really could
16:41because a lot of people tend to sit on the
16:43sidelines when they feel like everything's
16:44too existential and it doesn't really affect
16:46me. And I tell this story about how I went to
16:49Florida and on the way back, I had to go
16:52through TSA and I didn't have my full like
16:54plastic ID from my state yet because I had
16:57ordered a new one. It was in the mail and
17:00usually TSA has like a pretty cool like quick
17:02process. But as a result of me not having that
17:06the TSA person decided that I was going to be
17:08sitting like in a room for 20 minutes getting
17:11questioned about every single like aspect of
17:13my background just to make sure I wasn't a
17:15threat to anything. Now take that same scenario
17:20and extrapolate that to now a police or a
17:23government that's emboldened that doesn't
17:24respect people's rights or police that has
17:26immunity and a government that's looking to
17:28mass deport people. This can also be the danger
17:31can be exacerbated depending on what racial
17:32demographic you're a part of. Now a simple
17:35incident of hey, I'm waiting for my right ID
17:38to come in the mail can now be like livelihood
17:40and life-threatening if the wrong questions
17:43are asked, if the wrong answers are given or
17:45if they suspect you of anything and you have
17:48somebody at the top of the ticket running for
17:49president who wants to engage in mass deportations
17:52with those same authorities. Something like
17:54that as little as a traffic stop where you
17:56left something at home and everything can be
17:58infinitely more dangerous. Once you add in the
18:01added context that the police need to get more
18:03power. We need to do mass deportations and all
18:06types of stuff that are involved with that. So
18:08even though right now it looks like you're
18:10sitting at home. It's completely fine something
18:12as minuscule as that can already be exacerbated
18:15to levels. You can't even imagine because of
18:18a vote choice and I feel like in as Americans
18:22our best interest should be to never see it get
18:25to that point. We already have a lot of things
18:27that we need to work on and we have a very
18:29clear-cut example of somebody who's not willing
18:31to fix or help adjust anything in a positive
18:34manner for you or for your family's lives. So
18:38it can be very scary very quickly. Like Linnaeus
18:40said a lot of countries say that that we were
18:42in that stage too and now we're all the way on
18:45the authoritarian side. It happens throughout
18:48history. It's happened over and over again. And
18:50the best thing that we can do moving forward is
18:52not allow history to repeat itself. So when
18:54everyone's giving you those signs, it's a pretty
18:57good indicator that whatever you can do is very
19:00important and that void that vote that you have
19:03is very important. Wow. Well, unfortunately, I
19:08had the personal experience of going through
19:10that because I lived in Liberia and we lived
19:14under democracy for a very long time and then
19:18on a fateful day in 1980 is shifted. Yeah, and
19:22there was a dictatorship and there were
19:24assassinations and people were closed placed
19:26into prison and the Constitution meant nothing.
19:30And so as we think about this election, I often
19:32tell folks this is ultimately about democracy
19:35and freedom because if we don't understand that
19:39core concept is fragile and it could be taken
19:42away from us at any moment. All of the other
19:44issues we talk about are obviously important
19:47from the economy to reproductive justice. But
19:49if you lose the right to be free, none of that
19:54really comes into play. If you lose the ability
19:58to exercise your right in a democracy. And I
20:04think there's a there's something that we're
20:06dancing around. The whole idea that it could
20:11never happen to us is just untrue and we have
20:13evidence. Yep. We've we're seeing what's
20:17happening in Congo, what's happening in Haiti,
20:19when these rival groups take over power and
20:22gangs and all and violence and women and children
20:28becoming the main victims of these tragedies
20:32when countries are just in the throes of war.
20:37We've seen groups, nationalist groups in this
20:41country do crazy things. Nuts that we would
20:47never in our days dream of. So imagine those
20:51groups being emboldened by government that
20:54calls them good people.
20:59I think like just sitting with that for a while
21:02because we have seen the rollback of so many
21:04rights already that we didn't think that we
21:07would see the rollback in. We talk about even
21:11some of the polls when people go and they vote
21:15and they look at that ballot, their states where
21:17we're seeing slavery on the ballot, where they're
21:19going to be talking about involuntary servitude
21:22and like we, I really don't think how close
21:27people really realize sometimes on how far we
21:30could actually go back. And how the legislation
21:34still feels like far away because it's on paper,
21:38but we still have examples of violence.
21:41Absolutely.
21:44It's funny to mention because like when you
21:46look at how abortion rights were stripped away,
21:49all it took was the right person, the wrong person
21:52winning an election at a very crucial point in
21:54the lives of a couple Supreme Court justices
21:56and boom, rights are gone. A 50-year established
22:00right is taken away. And now we're in a position
22:02where more Supreme Court justices are looking
22:04to step down in the next four to eight years.
22:07So we saw when they overturned Roe v. Wade,
22:09we had chatters of maybe we'll look at contraception
22:14in the Supreme Court. Maybe we'll look at interracial
22:15marriage. There are things that you don't think
22:17would ever be questioned. Like really, they're
22:19going to bring back some sort of regulation about
22:21marrying a different race than you. We have people
22:24who in this country who genuinely think that
22:26that is something that we should pursue. And if
22:28you keep giving them the keys to power, they will
22:31keep telling you exactly who they are. And when
22:34it when it becomes that your opposition is not
22:37able to be present because, oh, the president
22:39with newfound immunity can now just take out
22:42people. Yes, it becomes very hard to mount a
22:46comeback. Yes. Now, now, now the courts have
22:50given the president immunity. I think something
22:55they're like, it's like Jenga. It's like a bunch
22:57of Jenga blocks. They're like slowly building
22:59the tower up like right in front of your face.
23:01Is it slow? That train has been moving pretty
23:06fast. Exactly. And it's like when, when it all
23:09comes tumbling down, it will in spectacular
23:12fashion. And while you're fine right now, you
23:14have to always be fighting and working to make
23:16sure you will be people around you will be. And
23:19that's one of the biggest reasons why, if you're
23:21still guessing, you need to get out there. You
23:24need to go.
23:27We want to give you both Lene and Joshua an
23:30opportunity to say the last word to folks West
23:35Coast, East Coast, Midwest, wherever folks are
23:39tomorrow is our last chance to have a voice in
23:43this year's election. It's our last chance to
23:46have a voice in this year's election. I want to
23:49give you both an opportunity to have a closing
23:52message to the folks out there because you may
23:55not have another opportunity to talk to them
23:57before the polls closed tomorrow. So when they
24:00will start with you.
24:01So on this bus tour, we partner with Kendrick
24:04Sampson's organization, Build Power, and we just
24:07as we talk to people, we started having this cute
24:10little mantra. We're building power with good
24:12people. And Kendrick talked about voting is not
24:17the end all be all as far as the answer to
24:20revolution and change. But it is a tool, and it's
24:23one of the most powerful tools. And I don't know
24:26if I completely I do agree with him on a sense of
24:30I do agree with him on a sentiment. But what I
24:32will say is I believe voting is the premier
24:38alternative to us giving our bodies away. Voting
24:45is how we fight back. Honestly and truthfully, I
24:50do not want to see us give any more blood to
24:53changing the world and shaping it the way that
24:56we need it to be when there's opportunity for
24:59us to learn the system and change the system.
25:04And Hill Harper was so correct in that, and I
25:06think it was he that said it. You can say that
25:09you don't think any progress has happened before
25:12a Black woman to be at the top of the ticket when
25:16Black women have not had the right to vote for as
25:19many years as everybody else. I don't remember
25:21them off the top of my head, but we are steam
25:24rolling in progress, and we are getting
25:26opportunities to violently shake the table. And
25:31I say this often because I'm experiencing it
25:33personally, but breakthrough should feel like
25:35the ground is shaking. It should feel like the
25:37walls are closing, and that is how you know
25:38something good is on the other side. But faith
25:41without works is dead, and you have to do your
25:45part. You hear people get super serious about
25:50voting because it is that serious. Like you guys
25:53said, this would be the last time we need to
25:55talk about.
25:56As of if I can offer like a final word, I think
26:00for me, I'm sorry it's lagging, so it's kind of
26:03like coming back in my head, but I think for me,
26:07I would just ask that as a country we decide
26:13like once and for all exactly what type of
26:16country we're going to be. And for me, it feels
26:21like it feels like we're at an inflection point.
26:23It feels like we have a very good chance right
26:26now to preserve the frameworks that we need
26:29to preserve in order to set our own battlefield
26:31where I'm under no delusion that every answer
26:35will be provided by this election. I'm under
26:37no delusion that we're going to solve every
26:39issue with this election. The problem is that
26:43if you cannot win in a scenario, if you cannot
26:46accomplish everything you need to, that's no
26:49reason to not try at all. If the very minimum
26:52is that we get to set the battlefield for what
26:54we need to do and who we're going to be facing
26:56later when it comes time to do right by the
26:59people, then you have to do that in every single
27:01scenario. And for me, I think it'll mean a lot
27:08if this country can decide definitively in the
27:13face of somebody who's threatening to every
27:16single like value that we like to tell ourselves
27:19as Americans is good and that was fought for.
27:22If we can decide right now that that area, that
27:26far right wing fascism, that descent into madness
27:30and demonizing and scapegoating of our fellow
27:33Americans, if we can decide that that's not what
27:35we want to do anymore as a people and that's not
27:37what we are for, that provides me a lot of hope
27:42that things can change and things have changed.
27:46By no means are we in this scenario where we've
27:48had no alteration of how we view each
27:51other. We've gone from stuff like slavery to all
27:55of us sitting here discussing what's going to
27:57happen tomorrow. And it wasn't by any like
28:00miracle. It was work. It was constant work and
28:03people did have to bleed, but it was constant
28:06work and fighting and letting the cards fall
28:09where they may. And you have to continue to do
28:11that every single day because there are people
28:13who can't. There are people who've done it.
28:15There are people who can't do it. And there
28:16are people who will never get the opportunity
28:19to if we make the wrong decision. So I think
28:24whether it's for your family, whether it's for
28:26somebody that you know, whether it's for a random
28:28stranger, I think you owe it to them to do your
28:30civic duty tomorrow and let your voice be heard
28:33and fight the good fight.
28:35Amen.
28:37Wow.
28:40Lene Vanee.
28:43Joshua Joseph.
28:46Thank you for using your platforms to engage,
28:50educate folks all around the country about the
28:53importance of voting and making sure that we
28:56actually hold on to our democracy. So thank you
28:58both.
29:00Thank you for having me.