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00:00Welcome to the world's most powerful man's election, that is, the election of the US President.
00:07Voting is ongoing in various states of the United States according to the local time.
00:12And after a few hours, the picture will become clear that the post of US President comes to Donald Trump,
00:20who has previously been the US President, or to Kamala Harris, who is the current Vice President of the United States.
00:27We will talk about this from all angles, whether it is from a political, economic, or military point of view.
00:43We will talk about this from all angles.
00:46We have with us Mr. Khabar Lahariya, Mr. Mohammad Malik from Hastinabad, Mr. Jahanzaib from Washington D.C.,
00:52and others will also join us.
00:54Mr. Khabar, please complete what you said.
00:58You said that the history of Pakistan tells us, and you also gave references,
01:01that even if there is a very internal political matter from the US, and if there is a request, then the request cannot be denied.
01:08And if this happens this time too, then the reaction will be the same as it was in the past.
01:13Do you think the request will come?
01:15Sir, please tell us about this prisoner.
01:21Let's fast forward.
01:24You will remember that there were two meetings of the National Security Council.
01:28After those meetings, there were announcements that the US has blatantly interfered in the internal affairs of Pakistan.
01:37We also issued a demarche to the American Embassy, which is present in Pakistan.
01:42We still do not know what that blatant interference was in the internal affairs of Pakistan.
01:46We will know when the time comes.
01:48Therefore, they have an eye on our internal affairs.
01:53In Pakistan, the only politician with whom Donald Trump has met is Imran Khan, whom he invited to the White House.
02:03After that, you will know that Jared Kushner and his son-in-law Zulfi Bukhari had a very good working relationship in the past.
02:14In addition to this, you will remember that I am privy to some of the briefings.
02:18When Donald Trump was heading the White House, the establishment and the government of Pakistan cooperated a lot.
02:31Therefore, there is a connection.
02:34Now the question is that if Donald Trump wins the election, will he express this desire?
02:40I think that the hostile government of the US has completely ignored the PTI and Imran Khan.
02:53If Donald Trump comes back, there will be a connection.
02:58Will he demand that the prisoner should be released from jail or return to the government?
03:03This is a long shot. I do not comment on this.
03:06Mr. Malik, please comment on this.
03:11What is your opinion on this?
03:15When Imran Khan met him, he met him as the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
03:19The relevance of the Prime Minister of Pakistan to any person is the same as the relevance of Pakistan to America's geostrategic priorities.
03:28At the moment, Pakistan is not in their priority.
03:32Afghanistan is not an issue for them.
03:35They have issues in Iran, the Middle East and Ukraine.
03:38The Middle East is a hotbed.
03:41If we leave the domestic issue, we will talk about international affairs.
03:45Is Pakistan important today?
03:47Today, Pakistan is not important for them at all.
03:50Because we do not have a nuisance value.
03:52Nor can we give any other key input where America needs us.
03:57Therefore, there are many other things.
04:00I do not think that they are involved in their priorities at the moment.
04:03Who is inside and who is outside.
04:05The second thing is that you were talking about the first interference.
04:10When it happened, it was accepted that it was America.
04:13Nawaz Sharif was sent out.
04:15At that time, sending Nawaz Sharif out did not disturb the local domestic power structure.
04:21Nor did there be any change.
04:23Imran Khan's matter is different.
04:25Today, if Imran Khan is released from the country or released from jail,
04:30it will be very difficult for this government to run.
04:32This power equation will change totally.
04:35No one wants it here.
04:36And I think the big issue of PTI is not whether the establishment changes in America or not.
04:42The establishment here is not changing for the next three years.
04:45So their bigger crisis is within Pakistan.
04:51America is more of an issue of Islamabad pending than Washington.
04:56I think it should be looked at in some way.
04:58Absolutely right.
04:59And we will continue to use this local politics because of valid reasons.
05:04Whether it is economic, political, or military, America is relevant in every way.
05:10So we will continue to talk about it.
05:12If we want to go to the IMF, we have to talk to America.
05:15But let's move forward a bit internationally.
05:18Jhansi, what is the impression of the Muslim and Pakistani community
05:23about the situation in Arab countries, Middle East, and Israel?
05:27What is their opinion?
05:29Will it make a difference?
05:30Who among these two will come?
05:32Then maybe things will be better.
05:33For reference, I will read Donald Trump's tweet.
05:38Jhansi, please tell us.
05:40He says,
05:41We are building the biggest and broadest coalition in American political history.
05:45This includes record-breaking numbers of Arab and Muslim voters in Michigan who want peace.
05:51They know Kamala and her war-monger cabinet will invade the Middle East,
05:55get millions of Muslims killed, and start World War III,
05:59vote Trump, and bring back peace.
06:02Jhansi, is this really the impression of the Muslim and Pakistani community
06:07that if Trump comes, they will say,
06:09I don't start wars, I end wars.
06:13Will things get better in the Middle East or Israel?
06:19Yes, Jhansi.
06:21You have just read Donald Trump's tweet.
06:24Donald Trump is trying to gain Muslim votes here.
06:30He is trying to cash that.
06:32As you know, there have been big protests here regarding Gaza.
06:36The Muslim community, especially the Arab community,
06:39is very angry with the Biden administration.
06:42But let me go back to what you were saying about Imran Khan's tweet.
06:47I just wanted to make a small point.
06:50I know you don't have much time.
06:53It is not hidden from anyone that the Biden administration does not support Imran Khan at all.
06:59Imran Khan's visit to Russia on the day of the nuclear attack,
07:04and then he said absolutely not.
07:07He tried to be a hero of the Muslim community.
07:12America has seen all of this.
07:14And this was the reason that Donald Trump said such words to the Pakistani Ambassador Asad Mujeed Khan
07:19that if Imran Khan is not there, relations will get better.
07:22You have read the entire cipher.
07:24It will be a long story.
07:26But here you should not forget
07:31that if Biden does not like Imran Khan,
07:34but if Trump comes to power, then he likes Imran Khan a little.
07:39He has been in touch with him.
07:40And the second very important thing is that some Pakistani billionaires have donated a lot of money to Trump.
07:47They have been given millions of dollars.
07:50There is a very famous Pakistani American in Houston.
07:54He has given almost millions of dollars to Donald Trump.
07:58You can call them unsung heroes.
08:04They have also donated millions of dollars to Trump.
08:07And when they met Trump, they mentioned Imran Khan.
08:10They mentioned the Bani PTI there.
08:13So to say that if Trump comes to power, there will be no progress.
08:16I don't think so.
08:17The PTI workers did whatever they did.
08:22It has its place and importance.
08:25So I think if Trump wins the election, it will definitely have a little effect.
08:31As far as your Muslim voters are concerned,
08:33Arab voters and Muslim voters are very angry with Biden.
08:38Their problem is that 80-90% of the Pakistani voters,
08:43wherever they are,
08:4580% of the Americans are Pakistani.
08:48They are against Imran Khan.
08:50Obviously, they are insisting on voting for Trump.
08:53Although more votes than the Pakistanis go to the Democratic Party.
08:57Campaigns and videos have been going on since morning.
09:00Pakistanis are being told to vote for Trump.
09:04So that he comes to power and gets us out of jail.
09:07They will get us out of jail, but this is their point of view.
09:10On the other hand, if you talk about the votes of the Arab community,
09:13the Arab community knows very well that if Trump were in power,
09:17this would have been the 7th of October attack on Israel.
09:20So Trump would have bombed Gaza.
09:23Many people have understood this.
09:26Because Trump is the person who got the US embassy in Jerusalem.
09:32In 2016-17.
09:34Yes, yes.
09:35And they say that if the Jews don't vote for me,
09:40it will be a reason for a big defeat if I lose.
09:44If he comes to power, then the White House is trying to send a support truck there.
09:50They are trying for peace there.
09:53The White House has always said that it is a two-state solution.
09:55We go to the State Department every day.
09:57You must have seen it.
09:58The White House has repeatedly said that we are in favor of a two-state solution.
10:02So you are saying that they were in opposition at that time,
10:07so they took a position.
10:08But it's not like they will come and tell Netanyahu to stop this story of oppression and barbarity.
10:13It's not like that.
10:15I would like to welcome Faiz Rehman.
10:20He is a senior analyst.
10:23We keep taking guidance from him about America.
10:26He is also in our transmission.
10:28Thank you very much for your time.
10:29Yes, Mr. Malik.
10:32Mr. Jahanzaib has pointed out a very important point.
10:35Donors are of great importance there.
10:37They do the funding.
10:38They have a big clout.
10:39And the payback has to be done later.
10:43But having said that,
10:44and we should also point out that Trump likes strong personalities.
10:49Imran Khan is also a strong personality.
10:51But don't forget another angle.
10:53Imran Khan's Islamic stance is a very strong Islamic stance.
10:58And he was emerging.
11:00He was talking about a Muslim Ummah.
11:02He also talked about it in the UN.
11:03Israel had a very hard stance.
11:05Then in Middle East politics.
11:07And he used to say that the Muslim Ummah has come as a block.
11:11Only then will Israel be given an answer.
11:13Only then will the West be given an answer.
11:15So when you look at the larger picture,
11:18I don't think Trump would be so keen
11:20that we propel such a person or let him come forward
11:23who is talking about a Muslim Ummah tomorrow
11:26and a new strong charismatic person emerges in the Muslim world.
11:30I think this will be a big threat as well as a fear.
11:35So you will have to look at it in all aspects.
11:39Yes, noted.
11:41But Waseem,
11:43what you just said about the Muslim world,
11:47what you were talking about,
11:49you must remember that
11:51President Trump,
11:53there was the Abraham Accord.
11:55Several Middle Eastern states were accepting Israel.
11:59So there was a movement, a peace movement.
12:02Jared Kushner was leading it.
12:04So there was a policy statement of President Trump.
12:08He gave rhetorical statements
12:10that he would bomb Israel.
12:12But on the ground,
12:14he had a plan.
12:16If he had won the second term,
12:18there would have been a lot of chances
12:20of peace and prosperity in the Middle East.
12:22No, I disagree with you a little bit.
12:25No, no.
12:27Trump also said that Gaza is a great seaside property.
12:34He wants to destroy it.
12:36He also said to Netanyahu
12:38that he is doing a wonderful job.
12:40Yes, I agree.
12:42But there is one thing about Trump,
12:44whether you like it or not,
12:46you get what you see.
12:48He is not a hypocrite.
12:50I never vote for Trump,
12:52but he is not a hypocrite.
12:54Kamala and others are genuinely hypocrites.
12:56On the one hand,
12:58they used to say that the war must end.
13:00This should not happen.
13:02All the weapons are going,
13:04CNN has made a very good report
13:06that in Michigan,
13:08where the Arab population is more
13:10and in other states,
13:12where the Arab population is more,
13:14the ads that Kamala Harris was running
13:16had that part in it
13:18that there should be a lot of peace
13:20and the Palestinian homeland,
13:22blah, blah, blah.
13:24And where there was a red state area,
13:26there were totally different ads.
13:28As is the country,
13:30as is the land.
13:32I am with Israel, I am everything.
13:34They are hypocrites.
13:36And let me tell you one thing about Biden,
13:38never forget that Biden was the
13:40Vice President under Barack Obama
13:42for 8 years.
13:44Biden has such a big mistrust
13:46of our army and government.
13:48He used to say that they always lie to us.
13:50They kill our people along with the Taliban.
13:52They take money from us.
13:54His bias was in him.
13:56The same bias is in Kamala.
13:58Maybe it would be better for Pakistan
14:00if the Republicans came.
14:02The American's opinion about us
14:04is not good.
14:06Donald Trump is known
14:08as anti-war.
14:10That's what I said.
14:12He claims to end wars.
14:14Faiz Rehman,
14:16let me ask you a simple question.
14:18If I say that
14:20the establishment
14:22and the definition of establishment
14:24is that
14:26because of whatever reasons,
14:28it should not come to power.
14:30And because of this,
14:32there will be a possibility
14:34and an effort
14:36that even if it wins,
14:38it should not be stopped.
14:40What would you say to this?
14:42Would you say that he is right?
14:44Or would you say that
14:46this is not Pakistan?
14:48What would you say to this?
14:50Again,
14:52it's good to be with you.
14:54Thank you very much.
14:56We are having a conversation.
14:58But there are some emotional things
15:00that I will definitely answer
15:02if I get a chance.
15:04But your question is
15:06that America is not
15:08a unipower-centered country.
15:10It's not like there is only one
15:12Pentagon or State Department
15:14or some think tanks or some big people.
15:16There are
15:18many power centers
15:20that try to manage
15:22their things.
15:24And if it takes more time,
15:26it succeeds.
15:28There is no doubt that
15:30a liberal left establishment
15:32that includes think tanks,
15:34universities,
15:36senior bureaucrats
15:38or even some people from the army
15:40want Trump not to come.
15:42And they openly want this.
15:44And why do they want him not to come?
15:46There are 200 Republicans
15:48who have
15:50top retired generals
15:52like Dick Cheney
15:54who was George Bush Jr.'s
15:56vice president.
15:58He was the main architect of the Iraq war.
16:00His daughter Liz Cheney
16:02who is a former congresswoman.
16:04So all these people
16:06are
16:08opposing him.
16:10And obviously
16:12this is also a part of the establishment.
16:14So there are many factors
16:16and interests.
16:18But it doesn't happen like
16:20our
16:22Imran Khan's definition
16:24is that
16:26only one person is the establishment.
16:28This is not the case in America.
16:30But Faisal,
16:32the power centers you are talking about
16:34have the ability
16:36to manipulate
16:38the election results.
16:40And is it possible
16:42to do that in this election?
16:44No.
16:46All this is pre-polled.
16:48And in this, the public opinion
16:50is legally
16:52manipulated.
16:54Some things are wrong,
16:56some are propaganda,
16:58some are misinformation.
17:00These are all things that happen.
17:02But it is not possible to
17:04manipulate the result.
17:06Let me tell you.
17:08For example,
17:10my parents
17:12have voted
17:14by mail-in.
17:16A large number
17:18of senior citizens
17:20are unable to vote.
17:22So the children
17:24who asked for votes
17:26filled their mail-in ballot.
17:28Parents don't even know that
17:30their vote has been paid.
17:32There are many other people
17:34who
17:36mail-in ballot
17:38is a big
17:40place where
17:42things can be manipulated.
17:44And that's why
17:46Donald Trump is against it.
17:48And he still is.
17:50And he thinks that
17:52there is a need to keep
17:54a close eye on it.
17:56May I ask a question?
17:58Yes, go ahead.
18:00Someone just messaged me
18:02who is the
18:04Chief Election Commissioner
18:06of the United States.
18:08Because you know
18:10that the system
18:12of counting votes
18:14is different
18:16even at the county level.
18:18I was reading
18:20that you have
18:22a facility
18:24where if someone
18:26has voted
18:28and something is missing
18:30then the voter
18:32can be called
18:34to correct it.
18:36Is it different
18:38from state to state?
18:40Is the election commission
18:42different from state to state?
18:46That's a good question.
18:48And it will be
18:50easy for our viewers
18:52to understand.
18:54America is made up of
18:5650 states.
18:58Each state has its own
19:00Supreme Court.
19:02Each state has its own
19:04laws.
19:06For example,
19:08California
19:10is the biggest state
19:12and has 54 votes.
19:14The winner takes all.
19:16If a person takes 51%
19:18of California's votes
19:20then he will get all 54 votes.
19:22If you go to
19:24Nebraska
19:26then Nebraska is a small state
19:28but their laws are different.
19:30They can distribute it
19:32in a different way.
19:34If a majority wins
19:36then they will get 3 votes
19:38and the other 2 votes
19:40will be distributed in a different way.
19:42The counting you talked about
19:44is at the municipal level.
19:46I live in Washington DC
19:48but my suburb city
19:50is also a municipality.
19:56For example,
19:58my voting booth
20:00is in a church.
20:02A few local officials
20:04are working there.
20:06These things are different.
20:08There are many states
20:10but not one king.
20:12You are saying that
20:14there are different reasons
20:16for this.
20:18You are saying that
20:20there are different reasons
20:22for this.
20:24I have a question
20:26for Mr. Sajid Talhar
20:28who is a republican leader
20:30and a Pakistani businessman.
20:32He is a supporter
20:34of Donald Trump.
20:36Assalam-o-Alaikum.
20:40Thank you for your time.
20:42I would like to make
20:44an initial comment.
20:46How serious is this
20:48concern of yours
20:50that the outcome
20:52will be different?
20:54Our IT
20:56still believes
20:58that the 2020 election
21:00was mandatory
21:02because of mail-in voting.
21:04Even today,
21:06Mr. Donald Trump
21:08has lost his vote.
21:10Mr. Talhar,
21:12please clarify this.
21:14Not a party,
21:16but a person.
21:18Your republican party
21:20believes this.
21:22Mr. Donald Trump doesn't.
21:24I don't believe it.
21:26I don't believe it either.
21:28I don't believe it either.
21:30The party believes it.
21:32Even today,
21:34when Mr. Donald Trump
21:36cast his vote in Palm Beach, Florida,
21:38when he was talking
21:40to the press,
21:42he gave an example of France
21:44and said that the paper is valid
21:46in the world and the results come out in the evening.
21:48Every county,
21:50every district, every state
21:52has a different law
21:54and without identification,
21:56people don't believe in it.
21:58The same thing is happening
22:00in America.
22:02Please tell our viewers
22:04that when you say
22:06that it is possible
22:08and it has happened,
22:10then who does it?
22:12I would like to ask
22:14a question.
22:16In order to sit on a bus
22:18or a plane,
22:20why does the democratic party
22:22try to enforce
22:24such laws?
22:26Does anyone have an answer to this?
22:28Mr. Tarar, it is not in every state.
22:30There are some states where
22:32even without identification,
22:34I would like to clear
22:36your perspective.
22:38You are absolutely right.
22:40There is no doubt about it.
22:42But it is not like
22:44anyone can go out of the street
22:46and vote.
22:48If you don't have an ID,
22:50but if you establish your citizenship,
22:52then you have to vote.
22:54You have to vote.
22:56Please complete your point.
22:58Mr. Tarar, when you say
23:00that it is possible,
23:02then who does it?
23:04In Pakistan, there is a narrative
23:06that it happened to us.
23:08Who did it?
23:10The beneficiary,
23:12the ruling party,
23:14the one who controls
23:16the Department of Justice,
23:18the one who controls the FBI,
23:20will ultimately benefit from it.
23:22I would like to add
23:24that I have first-hand information
23:26and first-hand experience.
23:28I have seen people
23:30dying in the streets.
23:32People have been dying
23:34in their homes for 10-15 years.
23:36There is mail-in voting in their homes.
23:38My children are getting
23:40mail-in voting at home
23:42and at the dorms
23:44of their colleges.
23:46This is a drama.
23:48This is a drama.
23:50This has to be corrected.
23:52Donald Trump has planned
23:54a program to change
23:56this.
23:58When France
24:00gets a paper ballot,
24:02what problem do they have?
24:04Mr. Tarar, with respect,
24:06when a political party
24:08starts talking like this
24:10in Pakistan,
24:12we understand
24:14that it is
24:16going to lose.
24:18I hope Donald Trump
24:20stands on his feet.
24:22Sir, I would like to give
24:24an answer.
24:26His answer is
24:28that you are standing
24:30near the third war of the world.
24:32The China-Russia alliance
24:34that has been formed,
24:36sometimes it is the SCO,
24:38sometimes it is the BRICS,
24:40sometimes it is the De-Dollarization,
24:42and I would like to ask
24:44why are they not being seen?
24:46And the biggest thing is that
24:48the entire world sector
24:50where is America today?
24:52I would like to ask this.
24:54And the second biggest thing
24:56is that...
24:58No, no, there is one thing.
25:00I am sad that
25:02Pakistan is being directly
25:04compared to America.
25:06Brother, compare yourself
25:08with Bangladesh and India.
25:10You have never bought a copy
25:12of a book.
25:14There is a history
25:16of 250 years.
25:18That is why I am surprised
25:20that when we hear
25:22stories of 250 years,
25:24we say,
25:26we want to make it 50-60 years.
25:28You started the chapter.
25:30You are a family enterprise.
25:32When a child is born,
25:34he becomes a minister.
25:36There are laws here.
25:38Your situation is
25:40the same.
25:42Sir, I am sitting on the
25:44host's position.
25:46You are a senior political commentator
25:48of Pakistan and America.
25:50You comment on this first.
25:52Republican George Bush Jr.
25:54when he was 40 years old,
25:56it is said about him that
25:58in Texas, he used to stand
26:00on the bar table and dance naked.
26:02Then he suddenly rebonded.
26:04He changed his faith.
26:06And then you see, because of Bush,
26:08it is not about dynasties.
26:10It is about name recognition.
26:12I have already commented on Mr. Malik.
26:14I want to ask Mr. Tarar
26:16a question.
26:20Mr. Tarar, you just said
26:22Mr. Malik's innocent question.
26:26Mr. Tarar, you just said
26:28a very interesting thing.
26:30Mr. Tarar, I am Malik speaking.
26:32I have a small question.
26:34You just said that
26:36the ruling party
26:38manipulates everything.
26:40At that time,
26:42Mr. Trump was the president himself.
26:44According to your logic,
26:46everything should have been under his control.
26:48First, he should have answered me
26:50that if this is the ruling party,
26:52then he was the president.
26:54Then how did he lose the election?
26:56Second, Mr. Trump keeps saying
26:58that the deep state is against him.
27:00Donald Trump is a very
27:02authoritarian man.
27:04All the liberals
27:06are worried that
27:08if Donald Trump becomes president,
27:10then the 2025 conservative agenda
27:12will destroy
27:14civil rights.
27:16Domestically,
27:18it will become a very divided
27:20authoritarian setup.
27:22The deep state's Kibla
27:24is one thing.
27:26Why would Donald Trump
27:28want to defeat the deep state?
27:30Second,
27:32the battle is between
27:34a liberal thought
27:36and an extreme authoritarian.
27:38They have said that
27:40the enemy is from within.
27:42They will use the army
27:44against the national guard.
27:46It is a very scary scenario.
27:48But tell me,
27:50what is the problem
27:52between the deep state
27:54and Donald Trump?
27:56The answer to this
27:58is very simple.
28:00The same people
28:02who are giving 250 billion dollars
28:04to Ukraine,
28:06which is the most corrupt
28:08country in the European Union,
28:10are the same people
28:12who are making the deep state.
28:14They are going to Dubai
28:16and Switzerland.
28:18Tony Wilkins
28:20is from the Boeing board.
28:22Lloyd Austin is from
28:24Raytheon.
28:26Dick Cheney
28:28is from
28:30Halliburton.
28:32He must have come from there.
28:34He must have made a lot of money.
28:36These are the issues.
28:38Mr. Malik is also saying
28:40the same thing.
28:42Mr. Faiz Rahman was also telling us
28:44about Dick Cheney.
28:46Mr. Malik has said a good thing.
28:48But there is another big aspect.
28:50Donald Trump is fighting
28:52for his personal survival.
28:54You know that
28:56he has been declared a criminal
28:58on various counts.
29:00He is a felon.
29:06His sentencing
29:08is being delayed
29:10because he was the nominee
29:12of the Republican Party.
29:14If he loses,
29:16by the end of this month
29:18or at any time,
29:20he will go to jail.
29:22If he wins...
29:24Then we will have to hear
29:26what Mr. Tarar says.
29:28This is a fact.
29:30This is a fact.
29:34Listen to me, sir.
29:36If he wins,
29:38he will be sentenced
29:40for 4 years
29:42because he has
29:44presidential immunity.
29:46If he loses,
29:48he will go to jail.
29:50He is going to be sentenced
29:52for life, almost.
30:04I think Donald Trump
30:06should talk to Mr. Zardari.
30:10I have had enough
30:12with this man.
30:14I have had enough
30:16with this man.
30:18I want to say one thing.
30:20I want to add one thing.
30:22Mr. Malik said a good thing.
30:24I think it was Mr. Khawar.
30:26Mr. Tarar, I am coming to you.
30:28You can answer.
30:30He said about the Abraham Accords.
30:32October 7th happened
30:34because of that.
30:36Jared Kushner tried
30:38to bring together
30:40all Arab countries
30:42and isolate the Palestinians.
30:44Without their involvement
30:46and agreement,
30:48we are isolating them
30:50and making the Abraham Accords.
30:52The Palestinians were totally ignored.
30:54Obviously, many people objected to it.
30:56I am not endorsing anything.
30:58But October 7th, of course,
31:00it was a terrible, terrible day
31:02and a terrible mistake.
31:04But what happened,
31:06Jared Kushner
31:08is a declared Zionist.
31:10He did not say
31:12that he will bring peace to Palestine.
31:14Donald Trump said
31:16let him finish the job in totality.
31:18A total victory
31:20should be given to Israel.
31:22And after that,
31:24let's establish peace.
31:26This difference,
31:28I think, again,
31:30I am not a Republican.
31:32Peace of the graveyard.
31:34His concept is peace of the graveyard.
31:36Absolutely.
31:38You articulated it very well.
31:40Mr. Barron said
31:42take money from me,
31:44take weapons from me.
31:46When it comes to Palestine,
31:48both are equally involved
31:50in that crime.
31:52But a good thing happened
31:54and I think Mr. Tarrar will agree with me.
31:56Mr. Tarrar is a very active
31:58member of our community
32:00and a politician.
32:02I am happy to say
32:04that our community
32:06was almost a one-party community.
32:08Mr. Tarrar
32:10with his efforts
32:12has given us the courage
32:14to stand on both sides.
32:16I think that's a good strategy.
32:18Why do you sit on one side
32:20and make your name on the other side?
32:22Mr. Tarrar has played
32:24a very prominent role.
32:26Mr. Tarrar, please be precise.
32:28Let me close on one point.
32:30This is the first time
32:32that Muslim voters
32:34and Pakistani voters
32:36are trying to
32:38form an alliance.
32:40This is a big achievement
32:42for the community,
32:44both Pakistanis, Arabs and Muslims.
32:46Both parties
32:48could not have imagined
32:50that Mr. Trump would tweet
32:52that he has been endorsed
32:54by a Muslim and he is
32:56honored to have that endorsement.
32:58Before that, he would not even let anyone
33:00touch him.
33:02I would like to respond to Mr. Faiz.
33:04Mr. Faiz, there are no two opinions
33:06but everyone knows that
33:08there is a state-to-state level
33:10insurance
33:12and a defense pact with Israel.
33:14Democrats and Republicans
33:16have to support Israel.
33:18They have to go all out.
33:20They have to support Israel in every way.
33:22Yes, there could have been
33:24a subjective debate
33:26as to whether peace could have been established
33:28because the Saudis were a part of it,
33:30the Egyptian government was a part of it
33:32and the rest were in line.
33:34I have a question for Mr. Tariq.
33:36Mr. Tariq, before you came here,
33:38there was a discussion
33:40that the Pakistani billionaires
33:42have funded a lot of your work,
33:44which is expected
33:46by President Trump.
33:48Let's see if you become the president again.
33:50Therefore,
33:52there has been a relationship.
33:54The Pakistanis who are overseas
33:56support you. They are more pro-PT.
33:58If President Trump wins,
34:00there is a possibility
34:02that he will influence the security
34:04in Pakistan
34:06with the release of Bani PTI.
34:08Or he could
34:10control PTI or Mr. Khan.
34:12What is your opinion on this?
34:14Sir, a quick comment.
34:16Let me answer this first.
34:18I wanted to answer
34:20that Donald Trump is a felon.
34:22First of all, I feel
34:24that Donald Trump's debate
34:26in which there were three Democrats
34:28and Pamela Harris was alone,
34:30I have to learn this art
34:32of neutralism from Fayyaz Bhai.
34:34I have to learn
34:36how to mock Donald Trump
34:38and say that I am neutral.
34:40I have to learn that from him.
34:42There is no such thing.
34:44This is a political opinion,
34:46Mr. Fayyaz Bhai.
34:48Mr. Tariq, don't say this.
34:50This is a legal fact.
34:52All four of you are Democrats
34:54and I am the only Republican.
34:56Mr. Tariq, include me.
34:58He is a felon.
35:00No, I am not a Democrat.
35:02I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican.
35:04Yes, I am also a Republican.
35:06Then this whole atmosphere
35:08seems to be very quiet.
35:10Mr. Tariq, listen.
35:12What were the cases?
35:14What are the felony cases?
35:1634, sir.
35:18Yes, 90 cases.
35:20Mr. Fayyaz Bhai, 90.
35:22You can do 190 if you want.
35:24You can do 190 if you want.
35:26Elon Musk is going to
35:28put an end to this.
35:30There are 34 charges
35:32including wire-tapping,
35:34sexual harassment, etc.
35:36Mr. Fayyaz Bhai, say something.
35:38This is a 5-minute report.
35:40I am not going to go any further.
35:42I want to say something.
35:44The Department of Justice
35:46has been sleeping for three years.
35:48The Constitution has been sleeping.
35:50The politics has been sleeping.
35:52The presidential candidates
35:54have been becoming
35:56the jury of their choice
35:58in the courts of their choice.
36:00The judges of their choice.
36:02More than Al Capone.
36:04And secondly,
36:06the FBI has gone to Mar-a-Lago
36:08to get the documents.
36:10The documents are not in Joe Biden's garage.
36:12The documents are in Joe Biden's garage.
36:14They have immunity.
36:16They can take money from Ukraine.
36:18They can take money from Moscow or Russia.
36:20They have immunity.
36:22At the moment,
36:24there are two laws in the US.
36:26One for Republicans and one for Democrats.
36:28But it is okay.
36:30This is what we are going through.
36:32If this is believed to be true,
36:34then you have done the same
36:36as we have done in the past 60 years.
36:38So, let's compare them correctly.
36:40Allow us to compare them.
36:42How can we compare them?
36:44Look,
36:46you are right.
36:48But this is their achievement.
36:50Mr. Tarek,
36:52tell me one thing.
36:54If Trump wins,
36:56will Pakistan
36:58press the reset button
37:00in the relationship?
37:02Look,
37:04I don't think Pakistan will be present
37:06at their table.
37:08There will be wars at their table.
37:10There will be 21 million illegal criminals
37:12at their table.
37:14They have said in their speech
37:16that 13,000 people have come from jail.
37:18They are criminals.
37:20So, that is the concern.
37:22After that, the Russia-China alliance
37:24will be at their table.
37:26If you put more pressure on Pakistan,
37:28it is possible that it will be at their table.
37:30Okay.
37:32Mr. Khawar has asked a question.
37:34You have said that
37:36Pakistan will not be present
37:38at the table in terms of foreign policy.
37:40We have talked a lot about
37:42Pakistan's political leadership.
37:44Mr. Khawar has said
37:46that there is a big game
37:48of fundraisers.
37:50People have supported Trump
37:52by giving him billions of dollars.
37:54With their influence,
37:56Pakistan is a political prisoner.
37:58If 127 articles can be written
38:00in the foreign press,
38:02if the election of Oxford can be held
38:04from the jail,
38:06if the British Prime Minister
38:08can be taken out of his house,
38:10it is also possible.
38:12I don't know
38:14how much money
38:16the dollar can give.
38:18Can Donald Trump
38:20do anything
38:22in support of Mr. Khan?
38:24He will lobby.
38:26He will hire lawyers.
38:28He will make it rain.
38:30Ultimately, things will be processed.
38:32I would like to give
38:34a perspective.
38:36Mr. Tarar is right.
38:38Anything can happen.
38:40Especially, his temperament.
38:42But,
38:44keep it in a proper perspective.
38:46It is a matter of two states.
38:48Mr. Malik,
38:50and Mr. Khawar,
38:52may remember,
38:54what happened to Mr. Bhutto
38:56when he was being hanged.
38:58We have mentioned it.
39:00Who did not come?
39:02Who did not say?
39:04Mr. Khalid said that the ship was ready.
39:06Everything was ready.
39:08But, Mr. Zia hanged him overnight.
39:10Nine men
39:12took his dead body from the helicopter.
39:14Only nine men were hanged.
39:16Don't underestimate
39:18the Pakistan state.
39:20Secondly,
39:22look at Mr. Imran Khan's situation.
39:24Unfortunately, what is happening
39:26is unfair.
39:28I don't think there is anything
39:30that we cannot be proud of.
39:32But,
39:34for Mr. Imran Khan,
39:36not a single state
39:38raised a voice against him.
39:40Be it good or bad,
39:42the diaspora is active.
39:44But, Mr. Faisal,
39:46so many people wrote letters
39:48to the state representatives.
39:50What is all that?
39:52As Mr. Tarar said,
39:54it is lobbying.
39:56So, Mr. Tarar is saying
39:58that it can be easier
40:00when it comes to lobbying.
40:02Mr. Faisal,
40:04it is a good thing
40:06that we have to accept
40:08how much we can accommodate.
40:10It is not that there are no messages.
40:12It is not that Mr. Trump will say
40:14and the government
40:16will cut off its head
40:18and give it to Mr. Trump.
40:20In the past,
40:22when these things happened,
40:24the ruling dispensation
40:26did not change.
40:28It did not matter.
40:30Here, it is either or.
40:32Mr. Trump should leave it.
40:34Even if the entire Congress
40:36writes a letter and sends it,
40:38it will not have that impact.
40:40Mr. Faisal,
40:42you know that such incidents
40:44are reported later.
40:46So, there are stories here
40:48and messages that
40:50Mr. Khan has to go to America,
40:52London, or Saudi Arabia.
40:54So, he can take you there.
40:56But, he is not going yet.
40:58Mr. Malik has more information.
41:00As long as he is here,
41:02he can take you there.
41:04Mr. Faisal,
41:06let's take this discussion
41:08in a different direction.
41:10Mr. Faisal,
41:12what is the opinion
41:14of the Muslims,
41:16especially the Pakistanis,
41:18that which of these two
41:20is closer to their character
41:22or better for them?
41:24You said that Mr. Faisal
41:26was clearly leaning towards
41:28the Democrats,
41:30Mr. Faisal,
41:32the bottom line is that
41:34in any system,
41:36you are a part of it.
41:38You are heard
41:40according to your size
41:42and ability.
41:44My brother,
41:46the official numbers
41:48of the Pakistanis
41:50are 7 lakhs.
41:52In America,
41:54all Muslims together
41:56are 3.6 million to 4 million.
41:58In comparison to this,
42:00the Indian-American community
42:02is 5 million.
42:04The total population
42:06of Muslims is more.
42:08Then their businesses,
42:10then their…
42:12If you look at the Jewish population,
42:14they are way ahead
42:16in every way,
42:18not just their population.
42:20The 7 lakhs people we have,
42:22apart from making noise,
42:24we neither register to vote,
42:26nor do we properly
42:28interact with the members
42:30of Congress or local politicians.
42:32We don't even donate
42:34to their campaigns.
42:36We will only get what we want.
42:38Mr. Faisal, that's why I didn't ask
42:40about the impact of our votes
42:42on the elections.
42:44I asked about the opinion
42:46of the Pakistanis
42:48as to who is better for them.
42:50We both say,
42:52between a rock and a deep sea,
42:54you are stuck
42:56in a place where if you go here,
42:58you will get beaten up.
43:00But the only place
43:02where you can get beaten up
43:04and your face is tolerated
43:06is the Democratic Party.
43:08This is my independent opinion.
43:10For example,
43:12when President Trump was president,
43:14the White House, State Department,
43:16the entire government
43:18banned Muslims and Pakistanis
43:20from entering.
43:22But after that,
43:24the Biden administration...
43:26Mr. Tarrar has left,
43:28otherwise he would have said,
43:30I am a representative
43:32and I am doing my job.
43:34But they were not given
43:36any position.
43:38In the Trump administration,
43:40not a single Muslim
43:42had a position.
43:44And I am saying this
43:46with full responsibility.
43:48Not a single political appointment.
43:50But in the Biden administration,
43:52Biden has nominated Muslim and Pakistani
43:54federal judges.
43:56In your agencies,
43:58your top level...
44:00The FTC, Federal Trade Commission,
44:02their female chairman,
44:04Ayesha Khan,
44:06she is a Pakistani.
44:08In the State Department,
44:10in the Small Business Administration,
44:12in the Justice Department,
44:14the top-notch lawyers
44:16who fight on behalf of the government.
44:18So, everywhere you have
44:20Muslims and Pakistanis.
44:22Mr. Faisal, stay with me.
44:24I will run a closing round.
44:26We will go to Capitol Hill.
44:28Meanwhile, there are some interesting news.
44:30In the American election,
44:32there is a software issue.
44:34Fox News has reported that
44:36voting hours extended in critical battleground states.
44:38I have heard this.
44:40I have heard this.
44:42Okay.
44:44In the American election,
44:46USA Today has reported
44:48that
44:50Georgia's Secretary of State
44:52blames polling place
44:54bomb threat on Russians.
44:56I have heard this.
44:58What should we do?
45:00Then Mr. Tarar says,
45:02why are you mixing the two states?
45:04I want to go to Mr. Asad Hassan.
45:06He is a correspondent of Voice of America.
45:08He is from Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C.
45:10Mr. Asad,
45:12please tell us about the situation there.
45:14Then I would like to ask Mr. Malik,
45:16Mr. Khawar and Mr. Faisal
45:18to predict
45:20who will win
45:22the US presidential election.
45:24Mr. Asad,
45:26please tell us about the situation there.
45:30Thank you so much for
45:32inviting me to the show.
45:34Mr. Malik, thank you.
45:36Mr. Faisal must have briefed you
45:38that until the election is announced,
45:40it is a close race.
45:42Let's talk about the environment.
45:44I am in Washington, D.C.
45:46I don't see any banners,
45:48or any big signs.
45:50It is a normal day.
45:52Employees are given two hours off
45:54to go and broadcast.
45:56It is a normal day.
45:58There are four or five buildings
46:00in D.C. where you can see Capitol Hill.
46:02It has been fenced.
46:04The White House has been fenced.
46:06The Vice President's house has been fenced.
46:08There are one or two sensitive buildings.
46:10Is fencing a normal thing
46:12on election day?
46:14Trump's personality
46:16is associated with
46:18law and order.
46:20Is that the case?
46:22Is that the case?
46:24Law and order
46:26is
46:28calculated by
46:30the authorities.
46:32Their on-racket statement
46:34says that they have no
46:36threats.
46:38But they have taken
46:40extraordinary measures.
46:42Law and order
46:44is prepared.
46:46In the last elections,
46:48it was anticipated
46:50that some right-wing people
46:52would come.
46:54But there is no
46:56threat.
46:58There is some
47:00skepticism.
47:02Mr. Faiz,
47:04tell us
47:06what you think.
47:08I think
47:10that
47:12at the end of the day,
47:14Kamala Harris
47:16will carry the day.
47:18She will be the first woman,
47:20black woman,
47:22Indian woman,
47:24President of the United States of America.
47:26Alright.
47:28Mr. Mohammad Malik,
47:30what do you think?
47:32I don't think
47:34Kamala Harris is very popular.
47:36In fact,
47:38can liberal or progressive people
47:40stop Trump or not?
47:42This will be the decision.
47:44If Trump comes,
47:46I think America will change forever.
47:48And I don't think it will be for the good.
47:50There will be
47:52a lot of polarization.
47:54If you are
47:56an enemy of America,
47:58you will want Trump to win.
48:00But I don't like one thing about Trump.
48:02You get what you see.
48:06I think
48:08it will be better for Pakistan
48:10if Trump wins.
48:12At least you will know
48:14what the deal is.
48:16I am very
48:18disappointed in
48:20Kamala Harris's hypocrisy.
48:22Alright.
48:24We will count you as an enemy of America.
48:26According to your definition.
48:28Mr. Khawar Guman,
48:32in the New York Times
48:34or American media,
48:36the sitting
48:38administration of Democrats,
48:40President Biden and the Vice President,
48:42their approval rating
48:44has never been
48:46as negative
48:48as the outgoing
48:50President.
48:52On the basis of this,
48:54the majority
48:56have been saying
48:58that Kamala Harris
49:00doesn't know
49:02what she wants to do.
49:04She built on the fact that
49:06when Biden was out,
49:08she came and tried.
49:10I think
49:12that the chance of President Trump
49:14is being created.
49:16I will disagree with Mr. Malik.
49:18The checks and balances
49:20of the American system
49:22are so strong
49:24that they have tolerated it.
49:26I think that even if they come
49:28and try,
49:30if you look at the last
49:32six elections
49:34of the swing states,
49:36and look at their results,
49:38it seems that ultimately
49:40by the skin of a teeth,
49:42Kamala Harris will
49:44get ahead
49:46if you look at the results
49:48of the last six elections.
49:50But from Pakistan's perspective,
49:52I think that maybe
49:54it is better for Pakistan
49:56to put it like that.
49:58Mr. Asad,
50:00if you look at the past,
50:02whenever Democrats
50:04have been in power,
50:06Pakistan has been in more trouble.
50:08Whenever Republicans have been in power,
50:10Pakistan has been in less trouble.
50:12Leave us alone.
50:14Mr. Malik, the purpose of saying this
50:16is that even if America is destroyed,
50:18if Trump comes,
50:20at least we will benefit.
50:22Mr. Asad,
50:24if Kamala Harris comes,
50:26then I have a prediction
50:28that
50:30she will have a greater impact
50:32on the political affairs there
50:34because she has a greater impact
50:36on our community,
50:38on the Democratic Party.
50:40I think that the relief
50:42for Imran Khan
50:44will be greater
50:46than that of Kamala Harris.
50:48Mr. Asad, I understand
50:50it is hard to predict,
50:52but at least tell us your guess.
50:54Mr. Badami, it is very difficult for me
50:56to predict.
50:58When Hillary Clinton and Trump
51:00faced each other,
51:02Hillary Clinton had a 4% lead,
51:04but Trump surprised her.
51:06And now in surveys,
51:08it is 0.5%, 1.2%, 1.3%,
51:10so it comes in the margin of error.
51:12Anything can happen.
51:14Of the four states that won,
51:16Pennsylvania is the most important.
51:18In that election,
51:20Trump took a lot of votes.
51:22Yes, exactly.
51:24He took 3 million votes.
51:26Thank you very much,
51:28Mr. Malik, Mr. Khawar, Mr. Asad,
51:30Mr. Faiz Rehman.
51:32Thank you very much.
51:34Let's see.
51:36By tomorrow,
51:38the picture will be very clear
51:40as to who will take over
51:42the White House.
51:44This is all for today.
51:46See you after the break.