Kamala Harris v Donald Trump: Presidential Polls - ARY News Special Transmission | 4th Nov-2024 |
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00:00I am here with you from Washington D.C. with a special show.
00:04As you know, the final countdown of the US presidential election has begun.
00:09The campaign of both candidates has entered the last phase of Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
00:14Both candidates are trying to gain support in swing states.
00:19Who will win this competition?
00:21Will Kamala Harris be the winner or Donald Trump?
00:24It is very difficult to decide this.
00:26Because the competition is so close.
00:28Both candidates are going neck-to-neck.
00:30There are a lot of political games going on.
00:32There are personal attacks on each other.
00:34There are political attacks on each other.
00:36But what will happen?
00:38This will be known on November 5.
00:40So far, more than 70 million Americans have used their right to vote in early voting.
00:45Let me introduce some guests to you.
00:47I have with me Anila Ali.
00:48She supports the Democratic Party.
00:50She is very active.
00:51We often see her in the White House.
00:53She is with her.
00:54Dr. Mubasher Chaudhary.
00:56He is a renowned cardiologist.
00:58He has a lot of experience in American politics.
01:00He has done a lot of fundraising for Congress.
01:04We are also a part of his fundraising.
01:07He has also served in the White House during the Bush administration.
01:12We have another guest with us.
01:14He is Raja Hassan from the Republican Party.
01:16He is from New York.
01:17Anila, you tell us.
01:18What are you seeing?
01:20This is going to be a great contest.
01:23What do you think?
01:25If you look at it, it is neck and neck.
01:29You are absolutely right.
01:31Most pollsters are holding back from predicting that they might be wrong.
01:37Because in recent history, such an election has never been so close.
01:42But today, our Democratic Harris campaign has received very good news from the state of Iowa.
01:50There is a pollster named Ann Seltzer.
01:54She is very highly regarded.
01:56She has predicted in her poll that Kamala will win Iowa.
02:01You know that whoever wins Iowa becomes the president.
02:06Democrats are very happy right now.
02:08They are cautiously optimistic.
02:11What do you think?
02:13What do you think?
02:15What do you think about Donald Trump?
02:17Just like what happened in Hillary's time when she was running for office.
02:20Everywhere it was said that Hillary will win the election.
02:23She is a favorite.
02:24In the end, she lost the election.
02:27This time, there is a discussion about Donald Trump.
02:29There is a wave of him.
02:31He will win the election very easily.
02:33You belong to the Democratic Party.
02:35You belong to the Republican Party.
02:37What do you think?
02:39This is a very exciting time in America.
02:42The season is here.
02:44Football is in full bloom.
02:46Halloween parties are happening.
02:48On top of that, there is a razor-thin election which is happening between the two parties.
02:53If you really ask me, both the candidates are within the margin of error.
02:59There are many questionable polls.
03:03The sample size is small.
03:05The pollsters are making their own polls.
03:09In my opinion, both parties could not get the right candidates.
03:17The Democrats also made a big mistake.
03:21Biden withdrew very late.
03:24He could not become the primary candidate.
03:26He had to make Kamala Harris the candidate.
03:29Trump pushed his way through for the nomination.
03:33There is a hint that this will happen.
03:37Trump mostly pulls low in the polls.
03:43Eventually, there is a 4-5 point which he gains in the elections.
03:48My hint is that he probably might pull it through.
03:52That's my personal opinion.
03:54Let's see what happens.
03:56As Dr. Singh said, there were no choices.
04:02Biden withdrew very late.
04:04He could not win the election.
04:07Kamala Harris struggled to gain support.
04:13Do you think this was a difficult decision for the Democrat Party?
04:18Yes, it was a difficult decision because there was very little time.
04:22You know, they waited for the presidential debate.
04:29Nancy Pelosi said, it's time to move on.
04:33We got a chance to find a Democratic candidate.
04:37Many Democrats were keen to have elections within the party.
04:43That was not possible because of the short time we had.
04:48But the consensus opinion was that since Kamala Harris is the Vice President,
04:54she has more name recognition.
04:56She was seen in the polls as a more capable candidate.
05:02But she was not beating Trump.
05:06So, she was picked.
05:09There are many Democrats who don't like Kamala's policies.
05:15But they want to beat Trump.
05:18So, they are supporting her.
05:20Many women, especially Democrats, want to get back the repeal of Roe v. Wade.
05:32They want women to get abortion rights in the states where they were taken from.
05:36Let's go to Raja Hassan from New York.
05:40He is supporting the Republican Party.
05:43Raja, why are you supporting Trump?
05:46What are your reasons?
05:48Why do you like Donald Trump?
05:50That's an excellent question.
05:52We have a clear and concise report card in front of us for what the current administration,
06:00which includes Vice President Harris, has left us with.
06:04That is a reeling economy.
06:06That is global wars.
06:09And above and beyond that, we do have a migrant crisis.
06:13And I think that it's quite clear that hopefully we will get a leader who will be able to come in
06:20and provide some type of relief from the inflation,
06:24cease these global wars,
06:26and create legal immigration policies.
06:39The immigrants in Haiti are eating dogs and cats.
06:43We have not found any evidence of that.
06:45They say that they will carry out the biggest deportation operation in history.
06:48They will remove all the immigrants from here.
06:50They also say that they will remove the children of US citizens from here.
06:53They will remove the green card holders from here.
06:55So, you support Donald Trump in all these things, right?
06:59Look, misinformation is a very strong tool utilized.
07:03Oftentimes, it is unfortunate that it becomes a reality that is then perpetuated by media.
07:09You asked about a plan.
07:11Sometimes, a plan for a plan is much better than no plan at all.
07:15Our Vice President Harris, she has no plan.
07:19She has made it clear that she would do nothing different than was done in the Biden administration.
07:24As a result, we have rampant inflation.
07:27We have global wars.
07:29And we have a migrant crisis.
07:31So, a plan for a plan is always better than no plan at all.
07:34This is my answer.
07:35Sir, the migrant crisis is due to the fact that there was no bipartisan support.
07:40So much effort was made to pass a law in this regard.
07:45I disagree.
07:46Historically, if you look at the states, the legal immigration is done by the Republicans.
07:53It is very nice to open the borders and then say that what do we do now?
07:58But having a clear and concise plan for immigration is what's needed.
08:02And I do believe that if you look historically at the United States,
08:06it has been Republican leadership that has provided that to our great country.
08:12Neela, what is your stance on this?
08:14Mr. Raja is saying that what Trump is saying is absolutely right.
08:18Everything is good.
08:19What is your stance on this?
08:21Yes, I would like to remind everyone, including Mr. Raja,
08:24that a few days ago, when Trump was in power, he floated the idea of a Muslim registry
08:30and he also put up a Muslim ban,
08:32in which the Democrats put the most pressure on him and ended it.
08:38Still, he was successful in putting bans on seven Muslim countries.
08:42You see, when the Democrats come, they will have a better plan,
08:48they will have better ideas.
08:50And apart from that, ever since Kamala started her campaign,
08:54she has always said that she will solve this problem with bipartisan support.
09:00So she has set herself as a ground builder, common sense maker,
09:07and when she does it with bipartisan support,
09:10because no president can solve the border crisis unilaterally.
09:18I think it will be easier for Kamala Harris to do a better job on immigration.
09:26I totally agree that immigration is a problem.
09:29It's been a crisis and that's why the Democrats were divided.
09:34What is your stance on this issue?
09:39See, this is called election demagoguery.
09:43It's a scare tactic, which basically,
09:46also says things to please Trump's base.
09:51Their own research lab, which tells them to do a few things,
09:56that people are eating your dog, people are eating your cat,
10:00that basically resonates very well with their own base,
10:04which is not very highly educated.
10:06So their statements are very well studied.
10:12How can I please my current base?
10:16If you look at history,
10:18this is a very old thing from the time of Socrates,
10:21that he said that the charismatic leader can make a fool of the common man.
10:28And by showing him some things like this,
10:31he could be a leader.
10:33And that's why he never liked democracy,
10:36and he happily drank the picture of the poison.
10:41Anyway, that's a long story,
10:44but we don't have any other better system than democracy.
10:48As Winston Churchill said,
10:51this democratic system is the best we can,
10:54because we have tried the other ones.
10:56We have seen what the Democrats have done for 7-8 years,
11:02and what the Republicans have done.
11:06Their policies will make a difference in 2019-20.
11:10Everything else is already planned.
11:14There will be no major policy in it.
11:16Let me tell you one more thing.
11:18Whatever Trump said last time,
11:20and he was as regular president as anybody else,
11:23this is the news from the Financial Times.
11:25Although the heading was,
11:27Trump will be the next king of the United States.
11:29But he also said that last time,
11:31he was as regular as any other president.
11:34Look at this,
11:36deporting 21 million immigrants the next day,
11:41it's not humanly possible.
11:43Americans have seen their own disaster,
11:45when they walked out of Afghanistan,
11:47and what happened there.
11:49We can't take the election status and demagoguery too seriously.
11:55One more thing,
11:57there has been an invasion of immigrants.
11:59They have conquered America,
12:01and our country is full of illegal migrants.
12:06They want their voters,
12:09their base,
12:11who like such things,
12:13who didn't vote in 2020,
12:15and they stayed back,
12:17to come and vote for them.
12:19But people get scared of this,
12:21and then they get angry.
12:23And in anger,
12:25you cannot discern,
12:27who is the best candidate for your country.
12:29The interesting thing is,
12:31that for the American people,
12:33not only the American people,
12:35but the whole world,
12:37is watching these elections,
12:39very attentively.
12:41I remember,
12:43when the Russian ambassador,
12:45I asked him,
12:47when will the war end?
12:49When will you negotiate?
12:51Because in the end,
12:53you will have to come to the table.
12:55The Russian ambassador replied,
12:57that we are waiting for the presidential elections.
12:59And we are waiting for Trump to come again.
13:01So we will negotiate with Trump,
13:03not with Biden.
13:05But this is also very important,
13:07when there are elections in America,
13:09foreign policy doesn't matter that much.
13:11Anila, do you agree with this?
13:13Yes, I do.
13:15I think,
13:17right now,
13:19most Americans vote for the economy.
13:21They see how many jobs there are.
13:23They see their future.
13:25Will they be able to buy food for their children?
13:27Will they be able to afford healthcare?
13:29All these things,
13:31are very important for an American.
13:33And in this election,
13:35you can ask both sides.
13:37Economy is more important.
13:39But the diaspora communities,
13:41like ours,
13:43Pakistanis,
13:45Arabs,
13:47Greeks,
13:49they all think,
13:51that we will vote for foreign policy.
13:53But I think,
13:55the most important thing is,
13:57that America remains strong.
13:59If the economy is strong,
14:01we will be strong,
14:03and we will be able to influence global foreign policy.
14:05Sir, I have a question.
14:07When Trump came in the 2016 elections,
14:09he fought with the FBI.
14:11He fired James Comey,
14:13the director of such a big agency,
14:15who came for 10 years.
14:17Because he said,
14:19he is not loyal to me.
14:21Although he said,
14:23I am loyal to the country, not to you.
14:25Anyway, whatever we saw,
14:27he did not fight with the military,
14:29with the generals.
14:31He fired all his henchmen.
14:33There was a lot of anger in the State Department.
14:35We used to go there for daily coverage.
14:37Are these things better now?
14:41I would love to comment
14:43on a number of things that were said.
14:45First and foremost,
14:47as far as our memory of past,
14:49let's talk about the present.
14:51You said that the economy is reeling.
14:53You have acknowledged the fact that it is.
14:55Who is in power?
14:57May I remind you that it is
14:59Vice President Harris,
15:01who has the ability to effectuate power
15:03and change now.
15:05As far as talking about misinformation
15:07and toward the past,
15:09the reality is away from an election
15:11that would photo finish
15:13what the future of the United States
15:15brings both economically,
15:17from an immigration perspective,
15:19and most importantly,
15:21from a global war standpoint.
15:23In regards to the Muslim community,
15:25may I remind you that under today's leadership,
15:27there are Muslims that are dying every single day.
15:29I would love to hear
15:31what the reality is
15:33and what the Muslim voters think about that.
15:35Doctor, what do you think?
15:37Is foreign policy a big issue
15:39in the elections?
15:41Of course it is.
15:43If you look at it,
15:45Europe is already preparing
15:47for almost a Trump presidency.
15:49Last time, if you remember,
15:51they said that
15:53America is giving so much money
15:55for NATO,
15:57and I'm not going to pay for that.
15:59Russia and Germany's pipeline
16:01was that Trump said
16:03that you are not spending
16:052% on your defence.
16:07I am paying for all your defence.
16:09And you are making these pipelines
16:11between yourselves.
16:13I'm not going to pay for that.
16:15So, he was able to have
16:17the European countries increase
16:19their defence budget.
16:21So, you read the daily news,
16:23they are waiting for the results
16:25and
16:27he will try to make
16:29some difference.
16:31I can tell you one thing.
16:33Somebody likes him or not,
16:35he talks about a lot of things
16:37which doesn't make any sense.
16:39He is uneducated,
16:41not college going.
16:43And to please him,
16:45he says a lot of things.
16:47So, he will do this,
16:49he will do that,
16:51he will do a lot of things.
16:53He says, what is there for America?
16:55He is a businessman, he is a dealer.
16:57Not that everything I like about him.
16:59I'm telling you.
17:01What he is doing for other Muslims,
17:03look at his record,
17:05what he has said about the Jews.
17:07So many wrong things
17:09have been said about him.
17:11He is inbred, he is selfish,
17:13he does everything for himself.
17:15So, this is what is
17:17filtering in his words.
17:19The US presidential election debate
17:21is going on. Stay with us.
17:23It's time for a break.
17:25We will be back soon with ARY.
17:27So, you are listening to the debate
17:29about the US presidential election.
17:31Dr. Mubarish Chaudhry,
17:33Raja Hassan from New York are present.
17:35But right now, we have another guest
17:37whom we would like to talk to.
17:39He is the former ambassador of Pakistan
17:41and former Secretary of State
17:43to the US, Mr. Izzaz Ahmed Chaudhry.
17:45Mr. Izzaz, how do you see
17:47the US presidential election?
17:49There is no doubt that the US
17:51politics right now is very controversial.
17:53There is a lot of division in the world.
17:55There is also a lot of division
17:57in the US.
17:59And many times, Donald Trump
18:01has said that he will only accept
18:03the results of the elections
18:05when he wins.
18:07So, from that, it seems
18:09that there will be difficulties.
18:11And this will not only be for the US.
18:13Because in the world,
18:15there is a lot of interference
18:17by the US.
18:19Whether it is in competition
18:21with Israel
18:23in East Asia
18:25or in the Middle East,
18:27or the war
18:29between Russia
18:31and Ukraine
18:33where they are supporting
18:35Ukraine.
18:37So, everyone's eyes are on
18:39this election.
18:41But the division of society
18:43there,
18:45your observation is correct.
18:47Okay, tell us
18:49Do you think
18:51that the results of the US election
18:53will have an impact
18:55all over the world?
18:59Right now, their biggest
19:01priority is
19:03competition with China.
19:05And you know
19:07that both parties
19:09agree that China
19:11is their biggest strategic
19:13competitor.
19:15Although there is a difference
19:17Donald Trump says
19:19that we will compete
19:21with them across the board.
19:23Which means not only in the military field
19:25but also in the economic field.
19:27You saw that
19:29he is talking about trade protectionism.
19:31That we will not let
19:33anything come from China.
19:35Nowadays, there is a lot of talk
19:37about electric vehicles.
19:39Similarly, he is saying
19:41that we will not let technology go.
19:43But I think to some extent
19:45this is also the policy of the Democrats.
19:47So, there is a lot on that side.
19:49Similarly, as I said earlier
19:51that we are supporting
19:53Israel.
19:55We support both candidates a lot.
19:57The only difference is that
19:59Donald Trump, if you remember
20:01he had shifted the embassy in Jerusalem.
20:03And the whole hog
20:05is associated with him.
20:07But the Democrats think that
20:09we should make some regional alliances
20:11and keep balance
20:13with other powers.
20:15In Ukraine,
20:17both want
20:19some kind
20:21of
20:23support.
20:25But Donald Trump does not want war.
20:27He wants to stop the war.
20:29Because his voters say
20:31that these long-distance wars
20:33and globalization
20:35and internationalism
20:37have taken away our jobs.
20:39So, his vote bank
20:41tells him
20:43not to go to long-distance wars.
20:45So, he says that he wants to
20:47end the war in Ukraine.
20:49So, in this way,
20:51his policies are similar in a lot of things.
20:53But there are some nuances
20:55and differences.
20:57So, sir, you have heard
20:59Mr. Azad's speech.
21:01Let's talk a little about Pakistan.
21:03Because whatever the results of the US elections
21:05will be, its effects will be
21:07in Pakistan.
21:09The US has been accused
21:11by some politicians.
21:13And this is not the first time.
21:15This has been seen many times.
21:17And what effect will it have
21:19on the political turmoil in Pakistan?
21:21Dr. Varsha Choudhary,
21:23in your opinion,
21:25whatever the result of the elections
21:27will it have any effect on Pakistan?
21:29I think
21:31there will be a slight difference.
21:33There will be no major difference.
21:35Pakistan's policies
21:37are run by 2-3 departments.
21:39There will be some policies of the White House,
21:41which is probably 10-15%.
21:43The rest is the State Department's
21:45own focus.
21:47And DOD's own.
21:49So, it will be
21:51some minor difference here and there.
21:53I don't see any major change
21:55in policy towards Pakistan.
21:57Here, Neela,
21:59the political parties
22:01are supporting Trump.
22:03You know the reason.
22:05I think
22:07that even if Trump wins,
22:09you know that
22:11when he was the President last time,
22:13he took out a lot of
22:15USAID funding from Pakistan.
22:17And the staff was reduced
22:19and a lot of good people resigned.
22:21So, this time
22:23this is what is going to happen.
22:25But we have to see
22:27which is very important,
22:29that even if Trump wins,
22:31if he doesn't have a House
22:33or Senate,
22:35it will be very difficult for him.
22:37Because in the same way,
22:39our power in America is divided.
22:41You can't change the laws
22:43of the whole world in one stroke.
22:45So, we have to see
22:47that whoever wins,
22:49has power, has a House,
22:51and has a Senate.
22:53Then he can make rapid changes
22:55that he has promised.
22:57But for either one,
22:59if he doesn't have this,
23:01then when it comes to Pakistan,
23:03it will be difficult.
23:05But whatever the policy of Pakistan is,
23:07not one President writes it.
23:09It is written by bipartisan support,
23:11State Department, CIA,
23:13all the officials,
23:15Department of Defense,
23:17all write together.
23:19So, it won't make much difference,
23:21as Dr. Sahab was saying.
23:23I think they are not supporting Trump
23:25in this matter,
23:27that the situation in Pakistan
23:30This was Raja Khan.
23:32Yes, I think
23:34one of the most important things,
23:36you know, we referenced that obviously
23:38there is a multitude of factors
23:40which are included in this.
23:42But I think it was also referenced
23:44that Dr. Sahab is a businessman.
23:46I think when there was
23:48with the IMF,
23:50it may be important to have the support
23:52of somebody with business-minded
23:54leadership,
23:56who can be a friend to Pakistan
23:58in those situations.
24:18I don't believe so.
24:20I think that you are
24:22perpetuating
24:24potentially the actual concern.
24:26I haven't heard that.
24:28I have been watching New York Times
24:30very closely. I have been listening to their
24:32predictions and so far
24:34none of the major news networks,
24:36newspapers or media outlets
24:38in the states have perpetuated
24:40any type of concern.
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25:52and I think the country is ready this time.
25:57Last time on 6th January they couldn't protect the Capitol Hill.
26:02But this time I think they are ready. The National Guard is ready.
26:06The DC police is ready behind us.
26:08So their base is so charged that they won't accept the result.
26:14So that's my opinion on this.
26:16Is rigging possible in American elections?
26:18Rigging is very difficult in American elections.
26:22It can be done in a few votes.
26:27But massive rigging is practically impossible.
26:31They have parameters to stop it.
26:36I don't think it's possible to rig in American elections.
26:41In this election, the issue of women has become a big headline.
26:46Donald Trump tried to change the law on abortion.
26:50And now he wants to give this right to states.
26:54How complicated do you think this issue is?
26:56This is very important for women.
26:58This is very important for American women.
27:01Apart from that, abortion rights have been taken away from them.
27:06Harris's polling in Iowa is a very surprising thing.
27:13She has shown disrespect to women.
27:17She just said that whether women like it or not, she will protect them.
27:25This way she has insulted women.
27:28She has insulted their intelligence.
27:30When you make demeaning comments about women,
27:3553% of Americans are women.
27:38This gender gap shows that Kamala was an underdog.
27:44Now she is no longer an underdog.
27:46She has become equal and neck and neck.
27:48Because women have voted for Kamala Harris in large numbers.
27:53Our debate on American presidential elections continues.
27:57Both candidates are claiming victory.
28:01But what is the reality?
28:03What is the situation on the ground?
28:04We will talk about it after this break.