En un recientes allanamientos a una arquitecta, se recuperó un documento que compromete al dueño de una obra de construcción. La arquitecta, que aún no ha sido imputada en la causa, formaba parte de dos equipos de trabajo que intentaban corregir errores de un arquitecto anterior. Las investigaciones apuntan a múltiples incumplimientos del Código de Ordenamiento y Edificación, poniendo en evidencia la responsabilidad tanto del dueño del predio como de los arquitectos involucrados.
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00:00Dr. Graciela Bravo is a lawyer and legal representative of the brother of Maria Rosa,
00:06precisely the father of Nahuel, Nahuel who is still missing and who is Rosa's nephew.
00:10Dr. Bravo, how are you? Good morning.
00:12Hello, good morning. How are you?
00:15Well, good. Sad for what happened.
00:17Yes, and also, let's see, I am a lawyer for the team of Miguel Pierri.
00:23Okay.
00:23We are the ones who are currently representing the victims.
00:26Good. How are you going to carry this forward, doctor? Tell us.
00:30Well, look, in principle, we were already able to present the cause.
00:35Yesterday we had a view of the file, we began to analyze it.
00:40The truth is that we did not get to see it completely without the latest measures.
00:45This is regarding what the file is, right?
00:52And also, well, mainly to support, at this moment, all the relatives,
00:58so that they can ... that there is such great anguish in the place.
01:05Yesterday I was there until about 12 at night and the truth is that all the relatives are there.
01:10Imagine what it is to be in that place, right?
01:12No, no, sure.
01:14With the hope that they can appear.
01:16It's terrible, doctor, it's terrible.
01:18Of all the testimonies we are receiving, everything points to the municipality,
01:24to their responsibility and to the so-called club of friends, of architects,
01:27who were the ones who did the works, if not, the works were not done.
01:30What is your opinion about this?
01:32Well, look, I'm going to tell you some measures that were taken yesterday,
01:36which I think have not yet come to light.
01:38I told some media, but I think it has not come to light yet.
01:42The issue is this.
01:44Yesterday an investigation was carried out against an architect who is still not in the cause
01:51and that in the next few hours will be impeached.
01:54Where a documentary was recovered that commits the owner of the place.
02:00What Dr. Zamboni told me today, that we were talking for a long time,
02:09is that in the place there were two other teams of work and two architects
02:16who came to substantiate errors in a previous architect,
02:22who have not yet contributed to the cause.
02:29They are waiting for him to be formally impeached.
02:32It was cut a little bit, doctor.
02:33The whereabouts of this architect have not yet been found, you said?
02:37No, he has not yet been found and he has not yet been presented.
02:40But is it from there, from Mar del Plata, is it local?
02:42Of course.
02:46What we were talking about with the prosecutor was that we were waiting
02:50for the owner of the place to provide this data.
02:55The new owner, Antonio Cortés?
02:57Of course.
02:59Who is a transport businessman, who has also been to offices here in Liniers.
03:04Let's see, what I ask you, Martha Schneider, who we were talking about, is an architect.
03:09She says she will be responsible for the work from now on.
03:12Do you have Martha Schneider's name?
03:15Yes, let's see, there are two architects.
03:18The architect you just named, who is in charge of the front part,
03:23and another architect, who is in charge of the back part,
03:27who was not found in the pagoda either.
03:30Yesterday, two raids were carried out on the property of this architect named Paola.
03:36I can't remember her last name.
03:38From the city of Mar del Plata.
03:39I'm going up a little bit because the communication is a bit dirty.
03:46Doctor, can you point to a place where you can get out better?
03:49Because, let's see, what you are saying is important.
03:54Of course, if it is the information that we have, it is possible to give it to the architects.
03:58I also want to ask Dr. Bravo if you already have the information that they are architects
04:03imposed by the municipality of Gesell, right?
04:06No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
04:08These architects were hired by the owner of the property.
04:14That is, the owner, the owner of the building.
04:17The new owner.
04:18The new owner.
04:20Of course.
04:21You mean the one that the justice cannot give with its whereabouts.
04:25That one in particular, because Schneider is from the city of Gesell and he is ...
04:29But yesterday two raids were carried out on the property of this architect named Paola.
04:35It is true.
04:37Is she actually on the run, can we say?
04:39No, she said she was already on the run.
04:41No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
04:43And she is responsible for the work that ends up collapsing.
04:47Regarding the detainee yesterday, who is a kapataz,
04:51do you have information about what was done in the city of Pinamar,
04:55the detention by the DDI and the Federal Police?
04:57What is his fault?
05:00No, no, I have a detention order there.
05:06I mean, wait, I can look at it and I can tell you, but ...
05:10Okay, because there was a detention in the last hours,
05:14which would be in the line of responsibility the second,
05:18coming the architects, this kapataz, and then the four apprentices,
05:23who are Albañiles and also the head of the work.
05:26But there the most responsible, without a doubt,
05:28are the architects in the first instance of what is now.
05:32Then, when they advance in the matter of investigation,
05:34they will see who the officials are,
05:36and here they are giving me orders
05:38absolutely unfulfilled in the code of order and building in the city of Pinamar.
05:42And the owner of Predio too, huh?
05:44He is responsible, the owner of Predio too.
05:46No, yes, of course.
05:48The architects are responsible for all the work that took place in the work.
05:52Without a doubt.
05:54Of course, of course.
05:56Doctor, you said that ...
06:06Doctor, you said that these architects ...
06:08Sorry, sorry, I want to tell you something.
06:12Yesterday an investigation was ordered on all these points,
06:18so in the next few days we will surely know what happens.
06:23It is said that it cannot be done yet, I understand.
06:25No, because of the fear of the world.
06:27No, no, but yes about the documentary,
06:29about the documentary that was released.
06:31Doctor, this can ...
06:33The municipality also contributed to the entire historical documentary
06:37of all the works carried out in the place,
06:39of the permits that were granted.
06:41But do you think the municipality is responsible for this?
06:45Why do you think?
06:47Well, now it is too early to say,
06:49but not to say it,
06:51we have to see if there was some kind of discovery
06:53by the authorities,
06:55see if the municipality authorized it,
06:57supervised it,
06:59supervised the work and in what way, right?
07:01Well ...
07:03I understand that there were also requirements for the work,
07:07we have to see if the architects or the owner
07:11went down and said,
07:13no, continue the work as it is,
07:15even if they tell us that we cannot do it.
07:17The truth is that everything is still very open.
07:19Yes, yes, yes.
07:21I think that in the course of this week,
07:23with all the requests,
07:25we will be able to determine it.
07:27Well, we will communicate again.
07:29Thank you for this contact, Doctor.
07:31If you clarified,
07:33if you clarified that today the prosecutor told me
07:35that surely analyzing all the documentary
07:37that the cause was contributed to by the claims,
07:39surely a technical indictment
07:41will be made
07:43to the owner
07:45of the property.
07:47Of course, it is logical.
07:49Doctor, thank you very much.
07:51No, please, see you later.
07:53Goodbye, see you later.
07:55Well, we are like tying ends, right?
07:57With different testimonies.
07:59Yes, and the basic right, right?
08:01As the owner of the property is obviously responsible
08:03because it is the one who hired, the one who chooses.
08:05And the doctor, with great caution,
08:07told the municipality for now,
08:09but it seems to me that we are on our way.
08:11I think it has a criminal investigation in progress
08:13What we have to see is
08:15if the work is from Rosa,
08:17at least from an architectural study
08:19that Rosa had proposed at the time,
08:21or if the new owner,
08:23this transport businessman,
08:25is the one who takes the work
08:27and asks for the municipality's permissions
08:29and so on.
08:31There, what the doctor said is that yes,
08:33there would already be the architect responsible for the work,
08:35nothing would be missing.
08:37There is something called solidarity.
08:39The responsibility is solidarity
08:41between Rosa and the new owner.
08:43In the hypothetical case that you say,
08:45of course, obvious,
08:47but in the hypothetical case
08:49that we were the responsibility of Rosa,
08:51who is dead, with which she ended her life,
08:53it would extend to the new owner.
08:55Okay.
08:57The one who bought, well.
08:59No, but that's for sure.