La mujer, identificada como María Rosa Stefanic, fue hallada sin vida bajo los escombros. Meses antes, había vendido el icónico hotel que fue su hogar y se había despedido de los trabajadores.
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00:00I'm glad you're here with us tonight.
00:05And well,
00:07in good times and bad times, but always.
00:11And well, we're here, with the team,
00:14as we've seen a large part of our lives,
00:17of the days we've spent together.
00:19And well, now, at the end of the hour,
00:23you have to decide the best way,
00:25because at the end of the hour, there were four tools
00:27and you didn't know which one to grab.
00:29And now, the kids,
00:33well, they have to fly.
00:38Up to here.
00:40I already told you.
00:43But well, you'll always have my support,
00:46whatever you decide.
00:49Always good advice,
00:53so that they can develop in life.
00:57Life isn't easy.
00:59Everything counts.
01:01There are sacrifices.
01:03You have to be responsible.
01:06And you have to keep going.
01:08Everything counts.
01:10Nothing is easy.
01:12Well, it's incredible, isn't it?
01:14The farewell this woman made.
01:16The former owner of the hotel.
01:17And she died in the same place.
01:18She died in the same place.
01:19She was the daughter of the Croatian couple
01:22who had come to Argentina,
01:24Rosita Stefanic.
01:26She had once said,
01:28it's an honor to continue with the family traditions.
01:30My father started building this hotel in 1984.
01:34He named it Dubrovnik because of my mother,
01:36who was born in that city.
01:38That's what Maria Rosa Stefanic said
01:40in an interview for Bar Croata in 2015.
01:44The video, of course,
01:46part of what was broadcast and we saw,
01:50is for that Croatian radio station
01:53in Argentina.
01:55After the list of missing people was known
01:57there in the Apart Hotel.
02:00Yes, let's remember.
02:02Federico Cioccini, this 84-year-old man
02:06from Balcarce.
02:07The son of a very, very well-known painter
02:10in Mar del Plata.
02:11Well, you have to add.
02:12He was a great man.
02:13Nahuel.
02:14Dana.
02:15They are missing.
02:16Nahuel is missing.
02:17Dana is missing.
02:18There is no confirmation.
02:1925 and 28 years old.
02:20Yes, exactly.
02:21I hope they can be fighting for their lives.
02:23Mariano Raul Troiano, 47.
02:27Juan Ezequiel Matu, 38.
02:30Javier Fabian Gutierrez, 50 years old.
02:35And Matias Alberto Chaspman, 28 years old.
02:39Nahuel and Dana,
02:41these four workers are added, Javier,
02:43who were living there for the repairs.
02:45One is a carpenter, the others are carpenters.
02:48They used to work there.
02:49It usually happens that they hire
02:52because they don't live in the place.
02:53Some of them are from Gesell,
02:55but there was another one from Tucumán.
02:58And of course, they work there and stay to sleep there.
03:01They gave them a home.
03:04One from Merlo too.
03:06And they are under the rubble.
03:08They are looking for them.
03:09Rosita was 52 years old.
03:12The dogs are coming in.
03:13The dogs are coming in, Facu.
03:14Let's see, let's see, let's see.
03:15The dogs are coming in.
03:16The dogs are coming in.
03:17The three dogs have just entered.
03:20They are going to enter one of the tunnels.
03:24Now, after a long silence,
03:26after the machines turned off,
03:28after removing the ladders by hand,
03:30now these three dogs have just entered
03:32in search of what could be,
03:36well, you have to say it,
03:38a body or a person with life,
03:40but they are meters away.
03:41They are meters away from what could happen.
03:43Now the three dogs have entered.
03:45First, the one looking for a living trace entered.
03:47The minister said it and the authorities say it.
03:49It is very difficult because there is already a lot of smell,
03:52let's say, to RH,
03:54and now the three dogs that are in charge
03:56of looking for people without life enter.
04:01The task is very complicated,
04:03but it is done.
04:04So, with the greatest delicacy possible,
04:07well, the minister had said,
04:08that there was a moment when they were arriving
04:11to the place where Maria Rosa was
04:13and a small detachment began.
04:16Then they had to stop,
04:18make calculations again.
04:19This is all calculated by weight
04:21and the dimensions of the concrete blocks
04:24that are there in the place.
04:26What happens is that,
04:27which floor did they say they arrived to?
04:28The third?
04:31They are at the top of this construction.
04:35Imagine,
04:36let's say we have three floors
04:38of the line of that construction
04:40at the street level,
04:41but now that third floor
04:44is at the street level.
04:46They are working between the street level
04:48and the first subsoil.
04:49A high subsoil,
04:50a subsoil that is now going to be observed.
04:53Do you see the car that Diego is going to show you now?
04:56Well, that's the first subsoil.
04:58That arch is the entrance to the first subsoil.
05:01That first subsoil is collapsed.
05:03Rosa was found in that place.
05:05That's why,
05:06imagine that from the top floor,
05:08there is the sign of the building,
05:10the name,
05:11which has descended those floors without scale.
05:15It is not that a column could retain the weight
05:17to the floor below.
05:20Well, that's the point.
05:23It's very complicated.
05:26And also...
05:27And then,
05:28Javi,
05:29we have to lower one more floor for the workers.
05:31Of course, of course.
05:32Because the back part is more sunk
05:34than the front part.
05:35It doesn't matter.
05:37I was thinking about the dog too,
05:40right?
05:41Sometimes the animals are the ones
05:45that are saved
05:47more easily.
05:48And yet,
05:50you will know where they were at that moment.
05:52One supposes in the room,
05:54in the place where Rosa was obviously.
05:56At the foot of Rosa's bed.
05:58Of course.
05:59Ale,
06:00was the sale of the hotel consolidated?
06:03Because this is other information that was
06:06circulating,
06:07that it was not clear if it had been consolidated.
06:09There is talk of a businessman
06:11linked to transport,
06:13who would be linked to the
06:16Liniers terminal.
06:18People who were looking to expand
06:22their horizons in business terms.
06:25What about that?
06:28Look,
06:29I'm going to tell you the rumor.
06:31Rumor is that almost all of the payment would have been made,
06:34because it was already in the other power,
06:36and that Rosa asked to stay only this season
06:38to say goodbye to her employees.
06:40But the fact of the sale was consumed.
06:43I don't know if it was necessary to sign something or not,
06:45but the sale of this tower was made.
06:53The Federal Police is also there, right?
06:55Some experts?
06:57Yes, yes.
06:58They are in charge, apart from the investigation,
07:00there are the federal experts,
07:01who come and go,
07:02who go around.
07:03There are obviously forces from the province,
07:05but the Federal Police
07:07is not in custody of the place or anything,
07:09but it has different types of income.
07:11The minister is talking to...
07:13Look, we have him there.
07:15Let's see if he is explaining something to a relative,
07:17or is he talking to one of the people here,
07:20because these are very critical moments.
07:22I think he is part of Nahuel's family.
07:25He is talking to a person,
07:27trying to explain to him,
07:28to see if he knows any more data,
07:30because the data also,
07:31of the people,
07:32or the neighbors,
07:33or those who are here,
07:34can help to get to those places.
07:37There they have a warm greeting.
07:39Let's see.
07:40Well, we'll see what happens.
07:42They go together to that place,
07:43probably to continue working together.
07:45There is a relative,
07:46there I see part that is with the press,
07:48going to the side,
07:50the minister's press, right?
07:51Going to the opposite side,
07:52where we are,
07:53and return to enter the tower
07:55where the rescuers are.
07:57Sure.
07:58The...
08:00What's going on?
08:01The hospital is still on alert, right?
08:03There, all alone.
08:09Yes, yes.
08:10They are all on alert.
08:11There is an evacuation device,
08:14also made in different streets,
08:16so that you can leave immediately.
08:18There is an official device,
08:21near the coast,
08:22in case a helicopter has to land
08:24to a square where we are,
08:25to empty that place on the beach,
08:27that the helicopter can land
08:28a meter from the beach.
08:29Well, everything is given,
08:31so that if you have to do an emergency rescue,
08:33it can be done in 7 or 8 minutes.
08:35Sure.
08:36There I just sent a photo to the group,
08:39to see, Ariel,
08:41to see if we can put it,
08:43where the minister, Alonso, is,
08:46because the relatives are in other...
08:48Where are they?
08:49In the building next door?
08:50The relatives of the victim, I say.
08:53Yes, Medamar, Medamar, look.
08:55They are behind this machine.
08:56Behind this machine is the hall of the building.
08:59Well, in that place,
09:00the relatives are at this moment,
09:02by the parking lot,
09:04by the Medamar car park,
09:07they are removing the rubble.
09:08Sure, sure.
09:09They are in a room,
09:11a room of that building,
09:13there you will see the image.
09:15The Medamar is the one that was split in half, Javi, right?
09:17Sure, just as it is.
09:18The one that falls...
09:19No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
09:21There is a friend on the left.
09:22The Medamar is on our side.
09:24That's the Alfio.
09:25That's Zafó, the Medamar Zafó.
09:26Yes, the Alfio,
09:27the Alfio split in half.
09:30The Medamar, nothing has happened to its structure,
09:33it is not at risk,
09:34and where is the family now at this moment?
09:35There it is, where the family is.
09:37The minister, before talking to the journalists,
09:39before talking to Alejandro, there it is.
09:41Before talking to the journalists,
09:43he spoke to the families.
09:44He explained exactly the same thing
09:46that he explained to us
09:48about this, right?
09:50About what he was also going to explain to the journalists
09:53and what they had analyzed so far.
09:55He explained everything.
09:56All those behind are relatives of the victims.
09:59That's happening now, Javier.
10:00No, no, no, that happened before talking to the journalists.
10:03Because there he takes the same material
10:04that he later exposes in the conference.
10:06Exactly.
10:07But we wanted to show you,
10:09because someone who was in that...
10:11The dogs come out, let's see.
10:12What he does, out of respect,
10:14first he talks to the relatives
10:15and then, obviously, he talks to the journalists.
10:18More dogs, right?
10:20Come out, let's see, Facu.
10:21One of the dogs came out,
10:24the three dogs are coming out now.
10:26They just entered the tunnel.
10:29Here are the rescuers,
10:30who are the ones who hang themselves
10:31to enter these tunnels.
10:33Let's see what attitude they have there.
10:34The dogs are gathered with another of the rescuers.
10:37Yes, they are giving him indications.
10:39Look, they are indicating him as if he were there.
10:41Look, look, look.
10:42He points to the place.
10:43Do you see what they say?
10:45They are dialoguing to see
10:47what the dogs have just given.
10:51Look, look, look.
10:52They are indicating him.
10:53Look, look, look.
10:54He is indicating him.
10:55Notice that he is giving him a sign
10:56as if that could come from above.
10:58But they are still giving there,
10:59or something is happening there.
11:00Look how he is clearly indicating.
11:01And there they take him.
11:02Look, he is going to show him
11:04where the dog recently pointed.
11:08He takes him.
11:09And who is with them
11:10is one of the rescuers
11:11who gives directives
11:13to those who are already,
11:14at this moment,
11:15part of the tunnels.
11:16They are already entering
11:18to obviously see
11:20and try to get to this place
11:22that we are trying to access,
11:25that they are trying to access
11:26by means of probes.
11:27I already told you,
11:28the hole is very similar
11:30to when we see a dog playing on the ground.
11:32With the fingers,
11:33with the hands,
11:34with the spoon of the veneer
11:35and with small buckets,
11:36they are doing an archaeological work
11:38and advancing in the tunnel
11:39trying that it does not collapse
11:41because the life of the rescuer
11:42is at great risk.
11:44Wherever part of that is given,
11:46the rescuer can also be trapped
11:48between the rubble.
11:52The work of the dogs
11:54is obviously fundamental,
11:56but also that of the three firefighters,
11:59the rescuers,
12:00removing the blocks of cement.
12:02Maybe it is not as difficult as before,
12:04the problem is that the larger blocks
12:06are easier to remove.
12:11Always carefully and with a calculation.
12:13The smaller blocks
12:14are what complicates
12:16because they can fall into a small crack
12:20formed by a lot of small blocks
12:23and if there is someone alive below,
12:25the whole structure can fall.
12:27Maybe I would tell you
12:29that this part is more difficult
12:31than the previous one,
12:32once the analysis was done.
12:34Javier Facu.
12:35Let's go.
12:38Look, prepare oxygen tubes
12:40supported on the floor,
12:42cutting machine
12:44and the rescue groups
12:46with the harnesses.
12:47The bag that one took there
12:49are the ropes
12:50and they are going to enter
12:52the main sector of the perimeter
12:54with the directives
12:55to enter the tubes.
12:57There they are all dialoguing,
12:59indicating where the area is.
13:01Here are obviously the oxygen tubes,
13:03some tools
13:04and there this rescue group
13:06with the harnesses,
13:07with the ropes,
13:08with the tools,
13:09with the helmets,
13:10with the flashlight,
13:11trying to enter the area
13:14where two people are trapped
13:16on the same floor.
13:22Well, there you can see the whole task.
13:24We are live in Gessel.
13:26It is a noon with a lot of information.
13:29This that erupted this week,
13:33the collapse and the tragedy
13:35and that underlying question
13:37that will inevitably translate
13:39into a question
13:41with greater firmness
13:43by the justice.
13:44Who are the responsible?
13:46What is behind this that was
13:49and is a true tragedy
13:51that could have been a disaster
13:53much bigger,
13:55much bigger in a few months
13:57when that hotel surely
13:59at the beginning of the season
14:01would have presented another scenario.
14:03They are looking for six people
14:04under the rubble
14:06to that retiree
14:07who they initially found
14:09the appearance of Rosita,
14:11the woman you are seeing on the screen,
14:13Nahuel, Dana
14:16and four hotel workers.
14:21What they told us,
14:22I do not know if you have
14:23the same information, Alejandro,
14:24that Rosa, in principle,
14:27they would have recognized her,
14:29of course, because you think
14:31that firefighters,
14:33rescuers,
14:34when they find a body,
14:36not all have a photograph
14:38of the person alive.
14:39What they are looking for
14:40is to rescue the person alive.
14:42And so, if it were a body,
14:45a corpse,
14:46well, they do not have recognition either
14:47until they extract it from the place
14:49and someone does the recognition
14:51or they give a detail
14:52of a recognition.
14:53Normally,
14:54the recognitions
14:56are often made
14:57by the tattoos.
14:58The police ask
15:00if he has a tattoo,
15:02some sign on the body
15:04or something like that.
15:05These are the tattoos he had.
15:07Well, from long to short,
15:09it could be Dubrovnik, right?
15:11It could be precisely
15:13the symbol of the hotel
15:16that he had in his arm,
15:19in one of his arms,
15:20this lady
15:21who unfortunately died.
15:23And on the left
15:24we see the dog
15:25that he also had
15:27and that he was also found dead
15:29as a result of this collapse.
15:32That was the fastest identification
15:36and then, obviously,
15:37the confirmation of the body
15:38was transferred
15:39by what I am told
15:40by the police department
15:42of Lomas de Zamora.
15:44From there,
15:45to do the rigorous investigation
15:47as in the case of Chokini,
15:50the man who was also found
15:52a few hours ago,
15:5489 years old, Alejandro.