CASO LOAN: PRORROGAN INSTRUCCIÓN HASTA MARZO DE 2025
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Mientras se analiza la declaración de Cristian Balbo respecto a lo que presenció en la fundación Dupuy, se espera que la Cámara Federal analice los procesamientos el próximo lunes.
A pesar de las dificultades y retrasos en el proceso judicial, hay expectativas de avances significativos en la investigación.
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00:00We'll take a break and be right back with the case of Loan.
00:05What news do we have, Diego?
00:07134 days.
00:09Don't get mad.
00:10I'm already mad.
00:11Valvo has declared.
00:13That's the news for now.
00:15Is it over?
00:17Tomorrow it is?
00:19No, it ends tomorrow.
00:21Oh, in the middle of the night?
00:22Yes.
00:23Okay.
00:24Christian Valvo's testimony is very valuable.
00:28Valvo details everything in detail.
00:31So, everything the judge saw,
00:34don't worry, he'll find out.
00:36And he'll give the information.
00:38What he saw,
00:39what happened in these pseudo-foundations,
00:42Dupuy, Macarena, Camila,
00:44what that interaction was like.
00:46Anyway, they tell me that on Monday,
00:48the Federal Chamber will analyze the proceedings.
00:51Yes, but he asked for the file.
00:53He asked for the main file.
00:55And that smells like more freedom.
01:00It smells like the beginning of the end.
01:02It smells like the beginning of the end?
01:04Yes.
01:05I think so.
01:06There are people who are going back home.
01:08There are no elements.
01:10I'm going to make an infidelity.
01:12Marcelo Hanson is already connected.
01:15Today, very early,
01:16Juan Pablo Gallego called me
01:18to invite him to participate in the program.
01:21You got angry yesterday a little.
01:24Yesterday a little.
01:25Not precisely with Gallego,
01:27but with La Querella in general.
01:29I get angry with everyone who doesn't bring me the file.
01:31Good.
01:32With everyone who says it's there, but it's not.
01:34Well, he told me,
01:35tell Nahuel that I'm not angry with him at all,
01:37that I have absolutely nothing personal,
01:39that I have the same thing,
01:41that he wants to know where the file is
01:43and is working on it,
01:45and that there is no connection with journalists,
01:47that the journalists who were cited
01:49were a decision of the judge,
01:52I say, pointing against journalism.
01:54What he wants is, well,
01:56to use us as a means to get to Loan,
01:59to see if we have any information,
02:01let's say, that leads to Loan.
02:03For me, nothing.
02:04For me, everything we have as journalists,
02:06we have put it on the table and in front of the camera.
02:08All nice, all nice,
02:10but the issue is that the journalist,
02:12what is he going to tell you?
02:16Where is Loan?
02:17Who took Loan?
02:19What happened with Loan?
02:21Do you think a journalist can tell you that?
02:23No, no.
02:24No, we have the same hypothesis.
02:26I don't think so.
02:27Why don't we call Pellegrini,
02:29Codazzi, all those people?
02:31It can contribute a little more.
02:33No, at least...
02:34It contributes a little more than...
02:35If we are going to call everyone...
02:36A journalist.
02:37Of course, they all go, right?
02:39Wait.
02:41About Codazzi...
02:43Wait or apple?
02:45Wait.
02:46Okay.
02:47Do you know the term,
02:49they are walking them?
02:51Four months?
02:52Have you lost your mind?
02:53Wait, wait, wait.
02:55They are walking them.
02:56Good, good.
02:57You are very skeptical.
02:59No, no, no.
03:00Let me...
03:01I'm optimistic.
03:02Let me,
03:03by the way,
03:05see some hope.
03:08I'll leave you whatever you want.
03:09I hope so.
03:10I hope so.
03:11There are more news.
03:12Let's see.
03:13Let's see.
03:14Let's see.
03:15Let's count it.
03:16Let's go.
03:17Let's count it.
03:19What are these?
03:20Well, you didn't see anything.
03:21And he's thinking,
03:22I can't believe there's no one here.
03:24Okay, but he's lost it.
03:27Let's see.
03:28So, we have some good news,
03:30but what's the good news?
03:32Let's see.
03:33Let's see.
03:34So, we have some good news here.
03:36We have some good news here.
03:39We have some good news here.
03:41So, we have some good news here.
03:43We have some good news here.
03:45So we can go until the investigation...
03:50Let's say, it would take until March 2025.
03:53Yes, it extends for almost six months.
03:55But, excuse me, did it have a deadline until this date?
03:58On the 15th.
03:59On the 15th, the judge should...
04:01On the 15th of November.
04:02On the 15th of November, the judge should...
04:06say what's going on with the detainees.
04:08He should have gathered all the evidence,
04:10put together a report...
04:12And ask for a hearing.
04:14Of course, no.
04:15He should ask for more time.
04:17Now, for what?
04:18That's the question.
04:19We're going to throw the ball, a pass to the knee,
04:21directly to Marcelo Hanson, who is listening to us,
04:24Ramirez and Miyapi's lawyer.
04:26I don't know if it's good or bad news for the defense.
04:29I imagine it's not so good, right?
04:31Because while the defendants are being investigated and detained,
04:34they are supposed to be detained either because of the penalty of expectation
04:38or because of the risk of escape,
04:40which could hinder the investigation.
04:42And the investigation will continue,
04:44so you understand that they will have to remain detained.
04:46Marcelo, how are you?
04:47Diego, Anauel, Lucia and Carlos.
04:50Hello, how are you?
04:51I'm not seeing you, I don't know.
04:53But, well, I hear you very well.
04:55The important thing is that we see you.
04:57We.
04:58The important thing is you, Marcelo.
05:00We're not going to get in there again.
05:02Our George Clooney.
05:03Our George Clooney.
05:04Well, Marcelo, we don't want to...
05:06Don't laugh.
05:07We don't want to make you laugh.
05:09We don't want to ruin you in a minute.
05:11It's not the idea.
05:12What do you think of this news?
05:15Well, the truth is that in a case like this,
05:19I think you heard me say,
05:21the extension will come,
05:23and it's not so simple that the deadlines are met.
05:27Because it's also understandable that the media
05:31doesn't have the justice to speed up.
05:34You saw all the inconveniences that arise
05:37in the moment of practicing the different tests, right?
05:39Ah, they don't have everything.
05:40Of course.
05:41One is surprised, right?
05:42Because national authorities had said,
05:44federal justice,
05:45that all the media will be available
05:47for the extension to appear.
05:49But, evidently,
05:50nothing about the media, right?
05:51Even literally,
05:52because there is nothing for the remiss.
05:54Imagine, for other issues.
05:56We see in the Instagram account,
05:58and we take the opportunity to mention it,
05:59as we mentioned Carlos Guion Bajo Estriones,
06:01the one of the Federal Court of Goya,
06:03that if it's not,
06:04if it's not the high temperatures,
06:06problems with the internet,
06:07the storm...
06:08The strike.
06:09The strike.
06:10Today there is a strike.
06:11In fact, today there is a new strike.
06:12Again.
06:13Stop, stop.
06:14And apart from something else,
06:15from here to March,
06:16what's holding us?
06:17The Judicial Fair,
06:18are they taking it or not?
06:19The fair, the holidays.
06:20The fair doesn't make it difficult,
06:22because having people detained,
06:24the cause has to continue on the fair.
06:26Yes, good.
06:27For people to understand, Marce,
06:29what is it that the extension
06:31of the extension until March 2025?
06:34Lower it to zero.
06:36The time that the judge has
06:38to finish the investigation
06:40and raise the case to trial,
06:42or require the raising of the case to trial.
06:46That is to say,
06:47until March 2025,
06:49everyone will remain,
06:51or what they are now,
06:53in the same conditions, detained?
06:56No, I am,
06:59in that positive sense
07:01that before there will be a resolution.
07:03I think that before the end of the year
07:05there will be a resolution.
07:06Ah, despite the extension,
07:08that is, this extension,
07:10for the investigation,
07:11there will be a resolution before.
07:13Of course, because the process
07:15or lack of merit,
07:17or whatever,
07:18does not cut the investigation.
07:20The body can continue.
07:22Finishing all the evidence
07:24that was pending,
07:25certificates.
07:26Yes, one still wonders,
07:28Marcelo,
07:29you were very clear yesterday
07:30and you said,
07:31in the last four months
07:32what was produced,
07:34let's say,
07:35substantial evidence
07:36that leads to answer
07:37the question
07:38where is Loan
07:39or what did they do with Loan?
07:41It was practically null.
07:43What can one expect
07:44from now on
07:45when more and more time has passed
07:47of the disappearance of Loan?
07:49What more evidence, right?
07:51What else can appear?
07:53There are already phones,
07:54there is evidence about cars,
07:56the tracking of cell phones.
07:58I don't know,
07:59is it that some of the detainees
08:00are broken?
08:02No, maybe,
08:03you know what,
08:04I think that
08:05as the judge
08:06arranges
08:08some more
08:10as a defendant,
08:12time can be accelerated.
08:14I think that will happen.
08:16Indefinitely,
08:17that will happen.
08:18It has to happen.
08:20And maybe there
08:21the egg starts to hatch.
08:23Wait, one more detainee?
08:25Are you talking about
08:26new possible detainees?
08:28Or two?
08:30Ah, wait.
08:33Hanson said it,
08:34that he is careful when he speaks.
08:36Two possible new detainees?
08:40For me, yes.
08:41According to the investigation, yes.
08:44Related to the family, Marcelo?
08:47There will be two detainees,
08:48I think,
08:49and I will get there,
08:50because if not,
08:51I will be shot in the ear.
08:53But,
08:54what he said is a lot.
08:56I'm being honest,
08:57I didn't know about this.
09:00About the new detainees?
09:01Two new detainees?
09:02Two.
09:03I hadn't heard it before.
09:04So many things can happen,
09:05so many things.
09:06But he's not a kid,
09:07he's talking with information.
09:09Hanson knows.
09:10A thousand things can happen.
09:11Marcelo,
09:12you are showing,
09:13you are close to the investigation.
09:15But are they people
09:16that you have on the radar?
09:17Are they men who turn around?
09:20Or would it be a twist?
09:22No, no,
09:23they were sitting at the lunch table.
09:25Ah, that's why.
09:26From the family.
09:29You didn't leave them alone.
09:33You didn't leave them alone.
09:34But,
09:35clarify something, Marci,
09:36because there will be
09:37a panic attack,
09:38Chirivin.
09:39It's not Chirivin.
09:41He wasn't at lunch.
09:42He wasn't at lunch, of course.
09:43No, no,
09:44but you see,
09:45poor thing,
09:46they ask for detention every day.
09:47Of course.
09:48Unfortunately,
09:49if you do
09:50an analysis
09:51of what comes
09:52from the investigation,
09:53the same elements
09:54to have those
09:55who are detained
09:56are exposed
09:57and that's why
09:58I think that
09:59if a decision is made,
10:00there will be new people
10:01detained.
10:02Wait, let me think.
10:04No, no,
10:05if he misplaced you.
10:06No, no,
10:07I know where,
10:08let's see,
10:09for something they ask,
10:10when they ask you
10:11to go
10:12to do a psychiatric examination,
10:14it's because you're about
10:15to be executed.
10:16Ah, well.
10:17I don't have many maps.
10:18Ah, well.
10:19Let's see,
10:20let me do
10:21a little bit of archiving.
10:23Last week,
10:24there were
10:25two psychiatric examinations.
10:27There weren't yet.
10:28There weren't, sorry.
10:29There weren't.
10:30There weren't, no, no.
10:31They cited them.
10:32Mobility problems?
10:35Sorry?
10:36Macarena and Camila,
10:37let's see,
10:38Macarena and Camila
10:39were going to go
10:40to do a psychiatric examination
10:42in Salta.
10:43Salta.
10:44Did it happen or not?
10:45Yes.
10:46It was scheduled
10:47for November 4th.
10:49Good, November 4th.
10:50Next week.
10:51Next week.
10:52We have,
10:53we have time,
10:5425,
10:55right?
10:56Two weeks.
10:57Well,
10:58let's take care of ourselves.
11:00We're not going to ask
11:01Marcelo Hanson
11:02if the two possible detainees
11:03would be
11:04Camila and Macarena,
11:05right?
11:06No, no, no,
11:07because I think it's irresponsible,
11:08let's see,
11:09I think it's irresponsible
11:10even on the part
11:11of this game,
11:12that Marcelo says yes or no.
11:13Let's see,
11:14he understands the cause.
11:15But on the other hand,
11:16he can't,
11:17he can't.
11:18And it's clear,
11:19even if there are more detainees
11:20and everything else,
11:21nothing is taking me
11:22to the OAN.
11:23That's what worries me.
11:24Maybe,
11:25maybe not
11:26with what I'm saying,
11:27but in other cases
11:28it has happened
11:29that they are waiting
11:30and from new detentions
11:31maybe someone
11:32starts to open their mouth.
11:33Ah,
11:34well,
11:35well,
11:36well,
11:37well.
11:38It's good,
11:39it's good,
11:40it's good,
11:41it's good,
11:42it's good,
11:43it's good,
11:44it's good,
11:45it's good,
11:46it's good.
11:47It's good,
11:48it's good,
11:49it's good.
11:50Let's see,
11:51if you are a mother
11:52who is detained
11:53and your family is outside,
11:54but they detain
11:55your husband,
11:56they detain
11:57your daughter,
11:58especially your daughter,
11:59right?
12:00Or a son.
12:01If you are detained
12:02why do you keep quiet?
12:03And you are going to think
12:04seriously
12:05if you start
12:06to talk,
12:07right?
12:08And give your own names.
12:09Maybe,
12:10maybe what I see
12:11is that
12:12we all
12:13What I see is that we've gathered all the canyons
12:15to Laudelina, who I understand knows a lot more than she said.
12:22It seems to me that there are also other characters
12:25who should speak and who also know a lot.
12:28Like, for example, someone we never named, Yemasiel.
12:33And there, well...
12:35I don't think I speak.
12:36I don't think so, no, no, it doesn't work.
12:38The son of Cahillaba,
12:42of a relationship very close to Mariano Peña.
12:51The son of Cahillaba, very close to Mariano Peña.
12:55He had been his employer, if I'm not mistaken.
12:57Some even say that he would have approached them
12:59a lawyer or an advisor.
13:04He suggested the unified compact.
13:08Well, the investigation, let's say.
13:10The unified compact, you're talking about prosecutors, prosecutors.
13:13No, no, no.
13:14The unified compact are the forces
13:16that are at the disposal of the prosecution.
13:19In a report, they command the situation.
13:23Based on some specific element?
13:27No, I can't tell you more than that.
13:30We always talk about testimonials, right?
13:33Yes.
13:34Let's see.
13:35Well...
13:38I do feel, based on the line that the judge drew,
13:41that they are reserved.
13:42It has caught the attention several times in the hearings
13:46about live leaks from the hearings.
13:51It couldn't be determined, right?
13:53Logically, who had leaked didn't affect the cause either,
13:56but it gives me the feeling,
13:58or I want to believe, that there is something else in the cause
14:02that we don't know about,
14:03or that we are spying on by chance.
14:07Obviously, there is something else
14:09that makes the judge ask for a reserve,
14:12for it to be cautious.
14:13And also, Dr. Hanson, at this moment,
14:15it is clear that in other moments,
14:17perhaps, he opened the game a little more.
14:20Now he is being cautious about some information.
14:23For example, that the unified command,
14:25no more, no less,
14:26the investigators suggest the quote
14:29of Maria Victoria Caillaba's son,
14:32the wife of Carlos Perez,
14:34the ex-captain of the ship,
14:36or the two detainees,
14:37indicated as the real heads, right?
14:41Of this possible kidnapping.
14:43And I'm going to take advantage of Hanson.
14:45What do we know about the policeman
14:47who is supposedly threatened,
14:49who would be the one who made the call,
14:52or modulated,
14:53saying that Lohan was scared, but alive?
14:57What do we know about that?
14:59Look, all the data I had, I verified it,
15:02and it occurs to me that it was not him.
15:04Of course.
15:06And it was not him who made that call for Handy?
15:09Exactly.
15:10Everyone reproduces the same thing,
15:13they find out through the WhatsApp group,
15:17and that this was replicated in a chain,
15:19and that everyone found out that way.
15:22But wait, wait, Marcelo, but wait.
15:24The call from the radio existed.
15:27That's it, there it goes.
15:28But is there any clue of who it could be?
15:30No, no.
15:32I'm behind the clue of another,
15:34what happens is that,
15:35like no one,
15:37that is, they are all afraid to declare.
15:40It gets difficult out there.
15:43And I'm behind a fact,
15:46that out there,
15:47I can't say it either,
15:49because I have to verify it.
15:51If it is or is not possible,
15:53this official would not be on July 9th.
15:56Yes, but I have to travel and verify that.
15:59Always, Marcelo, with information,
16:01and when you can't,
16:02that's why we respect you,
16:03and we respect you, Marcelo,
16:04for your seriousness.
16:05Leave a question.