Ketua Satuan Tugas (Satgas) Perumahan, Hashim Djojohadikusumo, menyebut Presiden Prabowo Subianto tetap berkomitmen untuk melanjutkan pembangunan Ibu Kota Nusantara (IKN) di Provinsi Kalimantan Timur.
Hashim menyampaikan pembangunan IKN akan terus berjalan, dengan akan ditunjuknya mantan Menteri Pekerjaan Umum dan Perumahan Rakyat (PUPR) Basuki Hadimuljono sebagai Kepala Otorita IKN. Pembangunan IKN ini, kata Hashim, akan dilanjutkan dengan pengadaan sarana dan prasarana yang memadai, sebelum benar-benar berfungsi sebagai pusat pemerintahan.
Hashim menyampaikan pembangunan IKN akan terus berjalan, dengan akan ditunjuknya mantan Menteri Pekerjaan Umum dan Perumahan Rakyat (PUPR) Basuki Hadimuljono sebagai Kepala Otorita IKN. Pembangunan IKN ini, kata Hashim, akan dilanjutkan dengan pengadaan sarana dan prasarana yang memadai, sebelum benar-benar berfungsi sebagai pusat pemerintahan.
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00:00The following footage was recorded in accordance with the COVID-19 safety guidelines for COVID-19 patients.
00:13The Chairperson of the Indonesian Council of Advisors, Hasim Joyo Hadi Kusumo,
00:18assures that the former Minister of Public Works and Public Housing, Basuki Hadi Mulyono,
00:21will soon be appointed as the head of the Ibu Kota Nusantara Definitive Baru Authority.
00:25The appointment of Basuki as the head of the Ibu Kota Nusantara Definitive Baru Authority
00:28is a proof of the seriousness of the government of Prabowo Subianto in continuing the development of the Ibu Kota Nusantara.
00:38The Chairperson of the Indonesian Council of Advisors, Hasim Joyo Hadi Kusumo,
00:46assures that the former Minister of Public Works and Public Housing, Basuki Hadi Mulyono,
00:50will soon be appointed as the head of the Ibu Kota Nusantara Definitive Baru Authority.
00:56The appointment of Basuki as the head of the Ibu Kota Nusantara Definitive Baru Authority
00:59is a proof of the seriousness of the government of Prabowo Subianto
01:02in continuing the development of the Ibu Kota Nusantara in East Kalimantan.
01:07Hasim admits that there are several suggestions and measures that must be completed
01:11because the current suggestions and measures cannot fully support the Ibu Kota Nusantara Definitive Baru Authority.
01:18The statement of Mr. Basuki Hadi Mulyono, former Minister of Public Works and Public Housing,
01:26is appointed as the head of the authority.
01:28He is asked to continue as the head of the authority, which is also equivalent to the minister.
01:34The rank is the same as the minister, Mr. Basuki Hadi Mulyono.
01:40The IKN will continue and will continue with the suggestions that must be completed.
01:48So yesterday, it turned out that the suggestions and measures were not complete to start as an Ibu Kota.
01:59IKN is a mega project designed by President Joko Widodo
02:03as a step to speed up the relocation of Ibu Kota Negara from Jakarta to Penajam Pasar Utara, East Kalimantan.
02:10Until the end of September, the progress of the construction of the first stage IKN
02:14which includes the government building, the ministerial house,
02:18to the house for the civil apparatus of the state has reached 93%.
02:23From Jakarta, Ade Firman Shah, IDX Channel.
02:27The Minister of Infrastructure and Rural Development, Yudhoyono,
02:38emphasized that the Ibu Kota Negara Nusantara project is a major project that requires continuous efforts
02:45and adjustments to the timeline.
02:47The project will continue to be carried out as needed.
02:50According to AHI, the attention of the Prabowo government is not only focused on the construction of Ibu Kota Nusantara,
02:56but also other national strategic projects.
02:59Moreover, President Prabowo emphasized the strengthening of food and energy resources
03:05as well as improving the quality of human resources in the education sector,
03:09health and poverty alleviation in various regions.
03:13AHI stated that the construction of the IKN requires at least five years of adjustment
03:18and this adjustment is needed to adjust the priority of the construction.
03:24President Prabowo also wants to continue the construction of the IKN
03:30with a timeline that must continue to be adjusted
03:36because we know that it is not only the IKN that needs attention,
03:39but also other national strategic projects in various regions
03:45to strengthen the food and energy resources,
03:49as well as improving the quality of human resources in the education sector,
03:54health and poverty alleviation.
03:58Thank you very much for discussing our topic this time.
04:00The government ensures that the construction of Ibu Kota Nusantara continues.
04:03We have been in touch with Mrs. Esther Sriastuti, Executive Director of INDEV.
04:07Hello, good morning, Mrs. Esther.
04:09Good morning, Mr. Prabowo.
04:11Greetings, Mrs. Sriastuti.
04:13Alhamdulillah, you are healthy. Thank you.
04:16Mr. Nirwono Yoga, a city observer at the University of Indonesia has also joined us.
04:20How are you, Mr. Nirwono?
04:22Good morning, how are you all?
04:24Mr. Prabowo, Mrs. Esther, Alhamdulillah.
04:26Alhamdulillah, everyone is healthy. Thank you for your time.
04:29Let's go to Mrs. Esther directly.
04:30Related to your view earlier, the IKN has been urgently delivered.
04:33So, what is it like to continue the construction of the IKN by the new government?
04:37Yes, from the beginning, I was not in agreement with the construction of this IKN.
04:44Because the IKN is not the biggest task for Indonesia.
04:49The biggest task for Indonesia is the development of human resources.
04:54With good quality human resources, we can build Indonesia.
05:02That's all.
05:04Related to the concept, then the consistency of the construction of the IKN in the future,
05:08what must be decided by the elected government later, Mrs. Esther?
05:14Yes, because this is about the continuation of what Mr. Jokowi started.
05:23And there has been a commitment from Mr. Prabowo to continue what Mr. Jokowi started.
05:29So, I suggest that in the future, if this IKN is continued,
05:36then the budget for the construction of the IKN should not rely on the APBN.
05:43Because if we rely on the APBN, I am afraid.
05:48Because the fiscal space of Indonesia is still very small.
05:54Meanwhile, the development program is not only for the IKN.
05:58But we propose to collaborate with foreign investors, domestic investors,
06:05to be able to build this IKN.
06:07So that it doesn't collapse.
06:09Okay, okay.
06:10Mr. Nirwono, then what should be done from the point of view of the development plan?
06:15Is this still a process?
06:17Because as Mr. Hasim said earlier, the infrastructure is still being developed.
06:22With Mr. Basuki Hadi Mulyono as the head of the IKN.
06:26Yes, that's right, Mr. Peras.
06:28So, what needs to be understood first is that building a city takes time.
06:32Even if we talk about a new city, it usually takes 20-25 years.
06:37It means that if we talk about the IKN, it was only seen in 2045.
06:41It can be said that the city has just started to live.
06:44So the process needs to be understood.
06:46This cannot be done in a short time and then it can live.
06:50Moreover, it must be moved soon.
06:52Because it cannot be done for sure.
06:54What needs to be noted is that until October 1st,
06:58the funds that have been issued,
07:00so Ms. Esther has also mentioned,
07:02the APBN has reached 89T,
07:05which is burdened to the PUPR.
07:07Meanwhile, from the investors, especially the national,
07:10it's only 56T, Ms. Esther.
07:12So, a little bit from the total of 466T estimated,
07:16it's actually not there yet.
07:18It can be said that it's just the beginning, Mr. Peras.
07:20Yesterday, it was only Russia, China, and Australia
07:24that started to start foreign investors.
07:27Now, the question is,
07:29if we learn from what Mr. Asim said,
07:31the continuation for the next year, 2025,
07:34the IKN is only marked for the PUPR,
07:37it's PU now,
07:39it's only 9T.
07:41While the body of the fish authority is only 4T estimated.
07:45If you look at that figure,
07:47I'm sorry, it can be ensured that the next year's development is slow.
07:50Not as aggressive as the last 1.5 years.
07:53Of course, with that limitation,
07:55I agree with what Ms. Esther said,
07:57private investors should not be pushed.
07:59Now, the question is, national private or foreign private?
08:02If we look at this ability,
08:04of course, those who have large capital,
08:06private from foreign parties.
08:08The problem is here, Mr. Peras.
08:10Foreign investors are not interested at all,
08:12because we know that building a city cannot be fast.
08:15This investor is more of a wait-and-see.
08:17It means that the faster the city is built,
08:20the more investors will come.
08:22But if it's getting slower,
08:24investors will also slow down.
08:26This is the first note in the development of the IKN,
08:28for the second phase now.
08:302025, 2029, this is the second phase now.
08:33Something like that, sir.
08:35Okay, from the advice of Mr. Peras,
08:37as long as it continues to be developed and built,
08:39so this is also a draw for investors,
08:42of course, to plant their funds.
08:44Related to funding,
08:46Mr. Esther has been told by Mr. Nirwono,
08:48what is the challenge, if we look at it,
08:50related to the consistency of funding for the development of the IKN?
08:54Yes, if we look at it,
08:57from the APBN, it's impossible,
08:59as big as that.
09:02Because, once again,
09:05the development program is not just the development of the IKN,
09:08but there is free food,
09:10there is other infrastructure development.
09:14What must be done is to attract investors,
09:17both domestic and foreign.
09:20How?
09:22If we look at it from the data,
09:24we have a problem.
09:26Okay.
09:27Uncertainty law.
09:29Problem of uncertainty of law,
09:32uncertainty of regulation.
09:34If investors can be convinced
09:37with a clear law certainty,
09:39clear regulation,
09:41instead of changing the minister,
09:43changing the regulation,
09:45changing the head of the region,
09:46changing the regulation,
09:48investors will consider it.
09:50Secondly,
09:52the infrastructure in the IKN,
09:55whether they want it or not,
09:57must be set up first.
09:59Because investors don't want
10:01to build something,
10:03they have to take responsibility
10:05for the infrastructure development, for example.
10:08So, in short, basic needs,
10:11water, electricity, gas,
10:14must be set up first.
10:18Okay, but from the investment side,
10:20what do you think about the opportunity in the future?
10:23And also, what must be boosted by the government
10:26to be able to offer the IKN
10:28so that it becomes quite sexy for investors,
10:30especially for foreign capital planting?
10:34Yes.
10:36So, like what was said by Mr. Nirwono,
10:39and indeed the economic theory shows,
10:42to be able to push the city
10:46to be a growth pool,
10:48for growth,
10:50it takes time.
10:51So, for example,
10:53the University of Indonesia,
10:55when it was in Jakarta,
10:58then moved to Depok,
11:00Depok which was not
11:03a quiet city.
11:06But when it was moved to Depok,
11:08it was actually interesting.
11:11Interesting,
11:13there were people who built houses,
11:15apartments, malls.
11:17Now, this has to be looked for.
11:21What is this,
11:22something that we can build in the IKN
11:25so that it will be an anchor
11:28to attract investors.
11:31That's right.
11:32So, what is the synergy like?
11:34If it can be said,
11:35ideal between stakeholders,
11:37so that in the process of building the infrastructure,
11:39the IKN can also run smoothly.
11:41Meanwhile, we create an icon
11:43that can be an anchor,
11:45if you say, Mr. Esther,
11:46so that it can be an attractive force for investment,
11:48both foreign and domestic.
11:50We will discuss later in the next segment.
11:51Mr. Esther and Mr. Nirwono,
11:53we will take a break for a while.
11:54And Mr. Mirsa,
11:55we will be right back after the break.
12:02Thank you for joining us on MarketTV.
12:04We will continue our discussion with our guests,
12:06Mr. Esther Srasuti,
12:07Executive Director of Indef,
12:09and also Mr. Nirwono Yogo,
12:10Chief Executive Officer of the University of Trisakti.
12:13Okay, Mr. Nirwono,
12:14if we talk about the ideal synergy
12:16between stakeholders,
12:17to be able to continue the construction of the IKN itself,
12:20what is it like?
12:21It has been said earlier,
12:22there must be a framework,
12:24there must be a construction
12:26that can be an anchor,
12:28there must be a construction
12:30that can be an attractive force for investors
12:33to plant their capital.
12:35Please.
12:36I have to divide it into two.
12:38The first,
12:39what we have seen so far,
12:40is the development of nine development areas,
12:43or cities.
12:44This is number one,
12:45which is called the central government area.
12:48Indeed, the special function is
12:50for government construction.
12:52Actually,
12:53of the eight development areas,
12:55this is actually what should be offered to investors,
12:57because there,
12:58for example,
12:59there will be a development area,
13:00a city for commercial business,
13:02there is a city for education,
13:04there is a city for research and development,
13:07there is a city for agriculture and fisheries,
13:10there is a port city.
13:11This is what I think should be offered immediately
13:14so that investors who are in the field
13:17are interested in planting capital there.
13:20Meanwhile,
13:21our government is still in the center,
13:23still focused on KIPP earlier,
13:25even though KIPP is not a commercial city,
13:27because it is a government city,
13:29where the main focus is on government construction.
13:32This is also a problem,
13:33because with the growth of this cabinet,
13:38it becomes a new problem.
13:39For example,
13:40the minister's house that has been built is 36,
13:43which is now 48.
13:47How about this?
13:49One, Kemenko,
13:50for example,
13:51which has been built and has been formalized,
13:53is four Kemenko.
13:54Now it's seven, for example.
13:55How is the status?
13:57It's just from the main ministry's office.
14:00We haven't talked about the number of ministries.
14:02That's the main task, one.
14:03Second,
14:04the house that is being built now for ASN,
14:07whose target is just finished in December,
14:09will be moved in January,
14:12is only 2,500,
14:13which was stated yesterday.
14:15Last week when we came to the location,
14:17it was only 2,500 ASN.
14:19It's still a question,
14:21which ministries will be prioritized to move to IKN?
14:24This is also related to the change
14:26in the structure of the ministries in the new government.
14:29From my estimation,
14:31from the initial conditions in the field,
14:34it can be said that only five years from now,
14:37we can say that there is a certainty
14:40of moving all kinds of government activities.
14:43If we look at the preparations in the field.
14:45How about that?
14:46Okay, okay.
14:47It still takes about five more years
14:49if there is an effort to move the government
14:52and the ASN there.
14:54Because there is a change.
14:56The change in the ministries is also due to the serious impact
14:59of the KIPP resolution that has been planned since the beginning.
15:03Okay, that's it.
15:04How do you pull Western?
15:05So that the development of the IKN continues.
15:08Then you said earlier,
15:09there needs to be an infrastructure that becomes robust,
15:11becomes a source of investment.
15:13But on the other hand,
15:14it does not burden the state's finances.
15:18Western.
15:19Well, in my opinion,
15:21for example,
15:23let's relate to Malaysia, Penang.
15:28To build an industrial area,
15:31they invited investors from seven companies.
15:37It is said that there are seven samurais.
15:40So, big companies,
15:42for example, big computer companies,
15:46and so on.
15:48If they come,
15:50then the small companies that produce the supporting items
15:55or spare parts of the products of the big companies,
15:59they will come.
16:00Okay.
16:01That has to be thought about.
16:05Yes.
16:06Besides the basic infrastructure earlier.
16:09Yes.
16:10But in your opinion,
16:11which part is more important, Mr. Western?
16:13If we can boost it,
16:15which sector can be a supporter?
16:17Then how about the investment commitment that was already there before?
16:23Yes.
16:24As long as it needs to be pushed.
16:29If we look from Kalimantan,
16:31this is a mineral, right?
16:34Mineral, coal.
16:36It can be pushed.
16:42Maybe while waiting for the central government
16:47to build an industrial area
16:50related to the mining sector
16:54or the forestry sector.
16:59That's before.
17:00If it's alive,
17:02then slowly this central government can be built.
17:07It means that the construction should not be slow.
17:11That's it.
17:12There was a time when there was a concept of twin cities.
17:15Right, Mr. Darwono?
17:17Yes.
17:18What is this concept like?
17:20The development,
17:22then we know,
17:24does the concept continue?
17:27Because this is in Korea, Malaysia.
17:29Can it be adapted?
17:31Yes, that's right.
17:33By the way,
17:34I also had a discussion with ASPI earlier,
17:37who proposed the twin cities earlier.
17:39So, the twin cities proposed by friends at ASPI
17:41took two examples.
17:42One is Putrajaya with Kuala Lumpur.
17:45And the other is Sejong with Seoul.
17:48Where there is a difference between Jakarta and Indonesia.
17:52The difference is,
17:53the two cities in Malaysia and South Korea
17:56are on the same land.
17:58The distance is actually not very far.
18:01Putrajaya-Kuala Lumpur is only 15 km.
18:04Meanwhile, Sejong-Seoul is no more than 40 km.
18:07So, it's actually quite close.
18:09Meanwhile, Jakarta and Indonesia
18:11are separated by the sea by thousands of kilometers.
18:14Okay.
18:15If we look at the map,
18:16it means that there is also a geographical difference.
18:19And the conditions of the cities are also different.
18:22So, we can't talk about it
18:24apple to apple
18:25to be an example in Malaysia and South Korea
18:28for the cases in the archipelago.
18:30What I mean is actually like this.
18:32What I mean is, friends at ASPI,
18:33Jakarta, honestly,
18:35still carries out the function of its government.
18:37Meanwhile, the archipelago, in fact,
18:40has started to take over several ranks
18:43for the government center there.
18:45The problem is, the facilities are not ready yet.
18:47As I said, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
18:50then the ASN Organization,
18:53but there is no non-ASN organization yet.
18:55For example, the ASN,
18:56such as Satpam,
18:58Cleaning Service,
18:59there is no house in the ICN yet.
19:01This is also something to think about.
19:02Actually, next to the ASN house itself.
19:05So, there are still a lot of NPPs that need to be provided.
19:08As Mr. Esther said, infrastructure.
19:10The problem is that our NPPs are limited.
19:12Well, is it possible for NPPs
19:14to be added to build other infrastructures?
19:17Okay.
19:18If you look at the policies of the current central government,
19:21that's what I doubt.
19:23I doubt that it is possible to budget
19:25a large-scale development of additional infrastructures in the ICN.
19:29That's what I was talking about earlier.
19:30In the NPP,
19:31not yet what Mr. Esther said,
19:33including the trading industry area,
19:35education centers,
19:37or health centers,
19:38those are new infrastructures,
19:39from scratch.
19:40Well, is it possible for the central government to provide that budget?
19:43If you look at the policies,
19:45I don't see any signs like that.
19:48Well, if this is assigned to the private sector,
19:51the private sector that we meet,
19:53they have already built their infrastructures.
19:55For example, roads, water, electricity,
19:58it was built first.
19:59Then they came in.
20:00They don't want to interfere
20:02if the infrastructure of a city is not there yet.
20:04That's the problem.
20:06Yes, that's interesting.
20:07Well, Mrs. Esther,
20:08how about the efforts, strategies,
20:10and maybe the anticipation steps
20:12that can be implemented by the policy makers
20:14in facing the challenges that we have discussed?
20:18Yes.
20:19So, like,
20:21there is a fiscal incentive, right?
20:24A fiscal incentive issued by the government
20:27for investors who want to chip in
20:31in the industry area, for example.
20:34Okay.
20:37Normally,
20:38if they don't pay taxes,
20:42they are asked to build infrastructures.
20:46But in practice,
20:48they don't pay taxes
20:50because there is an incentive,
20:52the fiscal incentive.
20:54But the infrastructure is built by the government.
20:57So, if they want to,
21:00they should choose one, right?
21:02Yes, yes.
21:03They want to build an infrastructure built by the government,
21:06but they have to pay taxes,
21:08or they don't pay taxes
21:11but allocate it for infrastructure development.
21:15That's it.
21:16Okay.
21:17Mr. Rumono,
21:18what is your last optimism
21:19about the development of Ibu Kota Nusantara
21:21that has been planned and
21:23supported by the government to be continued?
21:26Yes.
21:27As I said at the beginning,
21:28the most realistic thing is that
21:30in the next five years,
21:31all government functions
21:33must remain in Jakarta.
21:34Okay.
21:35I see that the consolidation of the government
21:37will definitely be centered in Jakarta.
21:39Yes, yes.
21:40But the program has nothing to do with IKN.
21:41That's one.
21:42It means that Jakarta is still like Ibu Kota.
21:44Yes.
21:45So, it's related to certainty first.
21:46Because IKN has been continued to be built,
21:48it still has to be built,
21:49but slowly.
21:51The speed is not like the one we had
21:53in the last two years.
21:55Okay.
21:56This is also to prove to the investors
21:58that IKN is still going on.
22:00In short,
22:01it will be built into a modern city first.
22:04Don't add more Ibu Kota,
22:06because it's not done yet.
22:07Okay.
22:08So, a modern city first.
22:09A modern city where foreign investors are invited.
22:11Please.
22:12If you want to make it like a sophisticated city,
22:13like an industrial city,
22:15please.
22:16But for the time being,
22:17I'm sorry,
22:18don't add more Ibu Kota.
22:20Because it actually burdens IKN itself
22:22to develop in the future.
22:24I think that's the most important point.
22:26Okay.
22:27Esther,
22:28in short,
22:29what is your optimism?
22:30Yes, in short.
22:31If in five years,
22:32I'm not sure
22:33this will happen.
22:35Everything
22:36like Bandung-Bordos.
22:38But
22:40to be able to make it
22:42into a city,
22:44the development must be gradual
22:46with domestic and foreign investors
22:50must be invited.
22:52What is the theme?
22:54Public partnership,
22:56sharing profit,
22:57sharing good,
22:58like that.
22:59Okay, that's it.
23:00The point is,
23:01we have to encourage each other
23:02to build again
23:03how IKN continues.
23:05But it is gradual
23:07and while we give one
23:09development that becomes an icon.
23:12I hope that IKN can be an attraction
23:14for investors.
23:15How to attract foreign investors
23:17with various incentives
23:19and in a long term.
23:22So that it can run smoothly
23:24for the development of IKN
23:25that has been planned by the government.
23:27Mr. Nirwono, thank you very much
23:28for the time,
23:29sharing that you have delivered.
23:30Ibu Esther,
23:31thank you for the analysis
23:32that you have also given
23:33to the audience today.
23:34Good luck with your activities again.
23:36Stay healthy.
23:37Mr. Nirwono.
23:39Thank you, Mr. Nirwono.
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