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00:00I welcome you once again to the most important discussion of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in Pakistan.
00:05It is scheduled to start tomorrow.
00:07It is scheduled to start tomorrow, but today is a very eventful day.
00:10Many leaders have reached Pakistan.
00:12Many have reached today.
00:14Continuous meetings are taking place.
00:16A while ago, the Foreign Minister of India arrived.
00:18So, a very eventful day and a positive day for Pakistan by all means.
00:23Of course, we are trying to understand the different aspects of our discussion in a simple and general way.
00:33We will continue that.
00:35Syed Muhammad Ali is an international security analyst.
00:38He is with us.
00:39Sir, thank you very much for your time.
00:41I hope very soon we will have Muhammad Malik, who was with us in the previous segment.
00:44Kashif Abbasi will be with us.
00:46I am very thankful to all of them.
00:48Mr. Muhammad Ali, please tell us.
00:50We have heard a lot of debates in the past about Bhatan Aziz.
00:58He has become isolated.
01:00He is nowhere to be seen.
01:01He is seen all over the world.
01:02What has he done?
01:03These are the debates.
01:04One is that scene, which is not very old.
01:08And today, it is on a rotation basis.
01:12That is why you are here.
01:13But of course, on the basis of security or any other basis, this debate did not take place.
01:19Or any big leader of the country did not say that we consider it unsafe to visit this country.
01:25Some have had 76 meetings.
01:27Some have had so many meetings.
01:29China's Prime Minister, Russia's Prime Minister, Iran's Vice President, India's Foreign Minister.
01:34Good optics, good messaging and a very rare diplomatic opportunity for Pakistan.
01:41Thank you very much.
01:43It has been an important day for me.
01:47We cannot hear you.
01:50Let's reconnect again.
01:51Meanwhile, Abdul Basit is with us.
01:54He has served in India.
01:56Mr. Basit, can you hear me?
02:00Mr. Basit, can you hear me?
02:02No, Mr. Basit is not with us.
02:04Mr. Malik, can you hear me?
02:07Yes, we can hear you.
02:09But when no one is listening to me, you are listening.
02:11I am very grateful.
02:12And Kashif Abbas is also with us.
02:14Mr. Malik, I will take the same question from where we left off.
02:17As you were saying, and we were agreeing on it, it is a very good thing.
02:21As Mr. Bilawal said, he did not sell a quote-unquote popular statement.
02:25In fact, he also said that the politicians on both sides and the media,
02:29in whatever words they said, instead of a popular statement,
02:32or instead of selling it or buying it,
02:34we should talk about such things that will move matters forward.
02:38This is what the ex-Minister of Finance of that country is saying,
02:40with whom the 370A has also happened.
02:42But I left the question to you that when on the other side,
02:45there is a leadership with a Modi mindset,
02:47a leadership with an Ajit Dodal mindset,
02:49a leadership with an Amit Shah mindset,
02:51and when they do not reciprocate such statements,
02:54and then these statements keep coming from our side,
02:56then there comes a time when there is an impression on the domestic level
02:59that you are over apologetic,
03:01why are you being so nice and not responding?
03:04So, in this particular scenario, how do we move ahead?
03:09Look, first of all, why is there a second mindset?
03:13In English, it is said,
03:15I did it because I could or I can.
03:18Correct.
03:19This was the same mindset earlier as well,
03:21but why did this mindset come up?
03:24When India became so strong financially, economically,
03:27that the world has to deal with them regardless of what they do.
03:31Similarly, what is there in Israel?
03:33Netanyahu was not the first religious extremist.
03:36Before him, there was Ariel Sharon.
03:38Before him, there were 2-3 more people.
03:40But at that time, Israel did not have the international,
03:43financial or military power that it has today.
03:47So, you get away with things.
03:49It is not about statements.
03:51It is not about what Modi responds to us,
03:55what Amit Shah responds to us,
03:57what he does not do.
03:58We know today that he will not do it.
04:00Because he is in some other zone.
04:02He has become a military bite,
04:04he has become an economic power.
04:06And we go and plead with the US for IMF.
04:09There, Modi invests 50 billion dollars in the US.
04:13So, obviously, his relationship is different.
04:16I repeatedly give an example of a rich and poor relative.
04:20Whether you like it or not, but you respect it.
04:23You listen to him, you do everything.
04:25Pakistan's problem is our economic crisis.
04:30Because of that, our weight has totally changed.
04:33If we did not have nuclear power today,
04:36I do not know whether our map would have remained in this state or not.
04:39May Allah have mercy on this country.
04:41And may we think of such a thing.
04:44But there are ground realities.
04:46Countries break down in the world.
04:48Our country has become used to it.
04:50What Bilawal has said today,
04:53I think this time has come
04:55that there should be some serious conversations in this country.
04:58Because they have very serious ramifications.
05:01For us as a country.
05:03And for the people in Makruza Kashmir.
05:06If we have to help them,
05:08we should be capable of it.
05:10How do we have to be capable of it?
05:12Look at India.
05:13Today, there has been such a big crisis in India.
05:15Yesterday, the Canadian government
05:17took out a High Commissioner and five more rooms.
05:19And they are accused of murdering people.
05:21Yes.
05:22But do you see India as such a troubled country?
05:26Imagine if this had happened to us.
05:28If our High Commissioner had come out.
05:30He did not come out of a small country.
05:32He came out of Canada.
05:33And the Prime Minister of Canada has said
05:35that we have enough evidence to believe
05:37that he is involved at the state level.
05:39When you go to Canada,
05:41Waseem, when you go to Canada,
05:43you find out how much influence there is.
05:46The population of expats or naturalized citizens
05:50is currently the largest among Indians in Canada.
05:54Yes.
05:55That's why they were more confident there.
05:57They also acted.
05:58But the thing is that he plays on his position of strength.
06:01We have to make our position of strength.
06:03This is a very sensitive statement.
06:05And just look at Bilawul.
06:07He is a former foreign minister.
06:09He is a key ally of this government.
06:12And without his support,
06:14this government cannot even stand.
06:16Yes.
06:17It cannot even function.
06:18So it's a very sensitive statement
06:21on a very sensitive subject.
06:23But I think this will be discussed in the coming days.
06:26And I was telling you a story earlier
06:28when the break came.
06:29Yes, I heard.
06:30Then we will go to Mr. Kashyap.
06:31I remember at that time,
06:33there was a project called Aman Ki Asha.
06:37Yes, yes.
06:38At that time, Mr. Kiani was the Army Chief.
06:41So I met him.
06:45So I still remember that he said,
06:47you take the initiative.
06:49We will not stop you.
06:51But we will see what the response of India is.
06:54If something good happens tomorrow, then fine.
06:57If not, then,
06:58which you call plausible deniability.
07:00Yes, yes.
07:01And I remember another Army Chief,
07:03the former,
07:04he said very openly that,
07:05look, the share you have,
07:07India cannot take it.
07:08You cannot take what India has.
07:10So if some things get better,
07:13then we can help people in Makboozah Kashmir
07:15in a better way.
07:17And a position of strength.
07:18No matter which issue you put on the back burner.
07:22And when you are economically and internationally strong,
07:25at that time,
07:26raise from a position of strength.
07:28Right.
07:29So in short,
07:30if you stand on your own feet,
07:31economically strong,
07:32then you can afford a lot of luxuries in India.
07:35But what will happen now?
07:37What will happen now?
07:38See, what will happen now?
07:39Now the Jamaat-e-Islami,
07:40the rest of the Jamaats,
07:42they have to pay lehras
07:44in the next three days of Bilawal Bhutto.
07:46He will also become a traitor.
07:48He will say,
07:50Israel lobby has also come.
07:52Everything has come.
07:53So the problem is that
07:55in our country,
07:56the serious issues,
07:58instead of being serious about them,
08:00suddenly,
08:02everybody plays to the gallery.
08:04Moving forward with this,
08:06Syed Mohammad Ali is also with us.
08:08Sir, I will come to you as well.
08:10Kashif Bhai Sahib,
08:12when we were news anchors since childhood,
08:14Kashif Sahib,
08:15you used to participate in the press briefing
08:17of the weekly translation of Daftar-e-Kharja,
08:19and as a special correspondent,
08:21his reporting.
08:22So you have a very extensive experience
08:24in the Daftar-e-Kharja of Pakistan.
08:26How old is Kashif Sahib?
08:27I mean,
08:28even Waseem Badami is not left.
08:30Waseem is 30 years old,
08:31and I am 5-6 years older than him.
08:33I have been watching him since childhood.
08:35I have become young since childhood,
08:36and Kashif Bhai has been using the word
08:37since his youth.
08:38But I have been watching him
08:39since the translation of Daftar-e-Kharja.
08:41And obviously,
08:42you have a very deep view
08:43on the internal affairs of Pakistan.
08:44Kashif Sahib was saying
08:45that this incident with India
08:46has happened yesterday
08:47at the level of Canada.
08:48If we reverse this,
08:49then,
08:50but I am also thinking,
08:51may Allah forbid,
08:52if this incident had happened
08:53with Pakistan today,
08:54then the Indian government officials
08:56and the media there,
08:57and if this was happening in Pakistan,
08:58then what should not have been done?
09:00Today,
09:01Bilawal has spoken here.
09:02No one has even mentioned the cement.
09:04Otherwise,
09:05in a way,
09:06the case of Pakistan is strong,
09:07that we say,
09:08brother,
09:09you do cross-border terrorism.
09:10Today,
09:11the Canadian Prime Minister is saying
09:12that we have evidence
09:13that you have tried to kill our citizen.
09:14But we are not saying this.
09:15So,
09:16this also shows the difference
09:17in the mindset.
09:18But I,
09:19Kashif Sahib,
09:20my question to you is,
09:21do you think
09:22there is a difference
09:23between the two societies
09:24regarding Pakistan and India
09:25that there,
09:26the mainstream political party,
09:27that is,
09:28Mr. Modi's party,
09:29there too,
09:30this anti-Pakistan narrative
09:31is sold.
09:32In Pakistan,
09:33it is fine,
09:34like Mr. Malik said,
09:35sometimes the Jamaat-e-Islami,
09:36sometimes they give some fatwa.
09:37But anyway,
09:38in that way,
09:39the public consumption
09:40of the anti-India narrative
09:41is not in our electoral politics.
09:42It is there.
09:43Does this also show
09:44the mindset
09:45of both sides,
09:46Kashif Sahib?
09:47To an extent,
09:48because we have
09:49a lot of domestic issues.
09:50We have politics,
09:51the politics of our home.
09:52There is so much in it
09:53that the number of foreign policy
09:54is very far.
09:55Right.
09:56Now,
09:57Modi government,
09:58Narendra Modi,
09:59when he speaks
10:00in his rallies,
10:01I am pretty sure
10:02that he speaks
10:03because
10:04there is nothing else
10:05to say.
10:06And his opposition
10:07has lost
10:08their support.
10:09So,
10:10we will have
10:11to target
10:12their opposition.
10:13But,
10:14you must remember,
10:15the problem is,
10:16you just asked him
10:17about Mr. Bilawal's statement,
10:18there will be no fatwa here.
10:19I can assure you
10:20that there will be
10:21no fatwa in Pakistan.
10:22And the reason for this is
10:23that our fatwa
10:24is only applied
10:25when the powerful
10:26forces are
10:27against that policy.
10:28There has been
10:29a shift
10:30in the past
10:314-6 years.
10:32The shift is that
10:33we were once called
10:34for a 6-8 hour briefing.
10:35And it was told
10:36how important
10:37these relations are
10:38for Pakistan.
10:39So,
10:40we should
10:41move forward
10:42in other
10:43matters
10:44with Pakistan
10:45and solve
10:46the problems
10:47and start
10:48the trade
10:49because
10:50we want to
10:51see the internal
10:52problems
10:53of Pakistan.
10:54Historically,
10:55when
10:56Bajpai
10:57came to
10:58Pakistan
10:59in a bus,
11:00there was
11:01a lot of
11:02opposition
11:03at that time.
11:04Then,
11:05there was
11:06a summit
11:07in Agra
11:08and
11:09there was
11:10a
11:11famous
11:12handshake
11:13and
11:14he was
11:15asked
11:16about
11:17the
11:18diplomacy
11:19of the
11:20General.
11:21If a
11:22politician
11:23had done
11:24this,
11:25he would
11:26have
11:27filed a
11:28complaint
11:29against
11:30the politicians.
11:31When
11:32all of
11:33this happened
11:34in the
11:35last few
11:36years,
11:37there
11:38was
11:39a
11:40lot
11:41of
11:42opposition
11:43and
11:44there
11:45was
11:46a
11:47lot
11:48of
11:49opposition
11:50and
11:51there
11:52was
11:53a
11:54lot
11:55of
11:56opposition
11:57and
11:58there
11:59was
12:00a
12:01lot
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12:03opposition
12:04and
12:05there
12:06was
12:07a
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12:10opposition
12:11and
12:12there
12:13was
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12:18and
12:19there
12:20was
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12:25and
12:26there
12:27was
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15:00and
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15:50there
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15:57there
15:58was
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16:32there
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16:46there
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21:25and
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23:25there
23:26was
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23:47was
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23:54was
23:55a
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24:00there
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26:14was
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26:19and
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26:28was
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26:34there
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26:49was
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26:56was
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27:22and
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30:27was
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30:34was
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30:48was
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30:54there
30:55was
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31:00and
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31:02was
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31:07and
31:08there
31:09was
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31:15there
31:16was
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31:21and
31:22there
31:23was
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31:29there
31:30was
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31:44was
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31:50there
31:51was
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32:10and
32:11there
32:12was
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32:17and
32:18there
32:19was
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32:24and
32:25there
32:26was
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32:31and
32:32there
32:33was
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32:38and
32:39there
32:40was
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32:45and
32:46there
32:47was
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32:52and
32:53there
32:54was
32:55a
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32:59and
33:00there
33:01was
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33:06and
33:07there
33:08was
33:09a
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33:12opposition
33:13and
33:14there
33:15was
33:16a
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33:20and
33:21there
33:22was
33:23a
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33:27and
33:28there
33:29was
33:30a
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33:34and
33:35there
33:36was
33:37a
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33:41and
33:42there
33:43was
33:44a
33:45lot
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33:48and
33:49there
33:50was
33:51a
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33:55and
33:56there
33:57was
33:58a
33:59lot
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34:02and
34:03there
34:04was
34:05a
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34:09and
34:10there
34:11was
34:12a
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34:16and
34:17there
34:18was
34:19a
34:20lot
34:22of
34:23oppression
34:24and
34:25there
34:26was
34:27a
34:28lot
34:29of
34:30oppression
34:31and
34:33this
34:34is
34:35the
34:38problem.
34:39That's
34:40the problem.
34:41.
34:48That's
34:49So, there they had made a data, at that time they had Punjab's data, that what was the average postage of an SHO at that time?
34:59It was coming out every 6 months. The biggest area that is known is the SHO of that area.
35:06It knows IB, ISI, MI better than anyone else.
35:10On a lighter side, let's see how much average postage of Azam is going on here.
35:15So, a person who needs 2 years to make a whole network, he will give Intel, he will give everything,
35:25they are getting released in 6 months.
35:27Then you say that there is terrorism, the person is not caught.
35:30These are multifaceted work.
35:32Do institution building in Pakistan.
35:34These high profile CODs and these economic charters, these are just ways to put headlines.
35:43Build institutions.
35:45But it is a boring work.
35:47It is not visible, you don't get the credit.
35:49If you restructure it completely, you won't get votes.
35:52If you go and put two tubers in the neighborhood, you will get votes.
35:56It doesn't have a ticker, it doesn't have a headline, it doesn't have a talk show, it doesn't have a vote.
36:01It is not tangible, you can't sell it.
36:06Thank you very much, sir.
36:07Thank you very much, Mr. Malik.
36:08If anyone wants to see a prime example of it, then it is also that everything has to do with the economy.
36:13Chairman Abiyar was talking about Mr. Malik, so you listen to Mr. Shabbarzadeh,
36:17in which he says that when I was managing the text system,
36:21so I used to put text here, so it used to come.
36:23I used to put it here, so it used to come.
36:25I used to put it here, so it used to come.
36:27So everyone will like the economy to the extent that until it is not on me,
36:31the rest is fine, you have to do it on yourself, then we will not be able to grow.
36:34In any case, we tried to start the press conference from different angles,
36:38from the lens of economy, diplomacy, security, local domestic politics,
36:45and from the lens of India,
36:47so that we can take a look at today's Shanghai Coordination Organization
36:51and analyze it and talk about it in different ways.
36:53We conclude the press conference for today.
36:55Tomorrow is an important day, tomorrow is the main day,
36:58when the conference will be held in reality,
37:02so tomorrow we will continue with our special publications.
37:05Inshallah, we will take leave from today's publications.
37:07After a break, we will continue with the news headlines.
37:09From our side, Allah Hafiz.