川島・山内のマンガ沼 2024年10月7日 大注目新興宗教サスペンス『スマイリー』を徹底解剖
川島・山内のマンガ沼 2024年10月7日 大注目新興宗教サスペンス『スマイリー』を徹底解剖
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00:00It's time for Kawashima Yamauchi's Manga Numa!
00:05Today's theme is...
00:08Manga Gachi Anketo!
00:13I've been saying the title of this manga for the past two years.
00:20I've been saying this manga is coming, but it's already here.
00:26Today's guest is Hattori Mitei, the author of Smiley.
00:30Hattori-sensei is a huge fan of Manga Numa.
00:37He's been watching since the beginning of the show.
00:41We've been asking him to appear on the show, but he agreed.
00:46He even offered to appear on the show.
00:49I'm so happy.
00:51Smiley was introduced to us at a very early stage.
00:56It's one of our favorite manga.
01:00It was also featured in Kawashima-san's salon.
01:04I thought it was a piece of cake because it's Smiley's salon.
01:08This manga was selected as the 5th place in the 2022 Genin Gakuya edition.
01:17It felt like it was 1st place.
01:205th place is 1st place.
01:22It's actually 1st place.
01:25We asked him to appear on the show, but he said he didn't want to show his face.
01:31This is completely normal.
01:35So he's going to show his face while wearing a mask.
01:41It's his first time, right?
01:43He wore a mask and glasses.
01:46He's wearing a mask.
01:51Please welcome Hattori Mitei, the author of Smiley.
01:55I'm scared.
01:57I'm Hattori. Nice to meet you.
01:59That's not Hattori.
02:01That's Shoko.
02:03Excuse me.
02:05Mr. Hattori.
02:07I'm Hattori.
02:09This is Mr. Hattori Mitei.
02:12Did you make this for this show?
02:17Yes, I ordered it.
02:19Mr. Hattori's size?
02:21Yes.
02:22He's the author of Smiley.
02:24He's the author of Smiley.
02:26Shoko.
02:28Shoko is the light that brings happiness to people.
02:31Those who are bathed in the light are waiting for eternal happiness.
02:34He's the author of Smiley.
02:37I can see what kind of person he is in the latest volume.
02:44He's wearing a very creepy mask.
02:47Mr. Hattori, do you watch Manga-No-Ma?
02:50Do you watch Manga-No-Ma?
02:52I watch it every week.
02:54I've been watching it since the time of Mr. Morikawa.
02:58He was the first person who came to see you.
03:01I've been listening to it while I was working.
03:06You've been working while you were drawing?
03:09I don't think Smiley is your source of motivation.
03:12Manga-No-Ma Vol.190
03:15This week's lineup is...
03:18Manga artists who draw popular manga artists.
03:24This week's guest is the author of Smiley, a popular manga that combines religion and suspense horror.
03:31Mr. Hattori Itei.
03:34I don't remember anything.
03:36I'm sorry, but I really don't remember the author.
03:39I don't know because I'm wearing a mask.
03:43Kawashima.
03:45Manga-No-Ma.
03:48Kawashima and Yamauchi, who love manga, talk about manga all the time.
03:56Let's start with Mr. Hattori's profile.
03:59Mr. Yamauchi, please.
04:01I'm Hattori Itei.
04:03I'm 32 years old.
04:05I'm from Gifu Prefecture.
04:07When I was in middle school, I wanted to become a manga artist.
04:12But there were a lot of good artists around me, so I gave up.
04:16When you were a student, you wanted to become a manga artist.
04:21When I was 18 years old, I got a job at a factory.
04:24When I was 20 years old, I tried to change jobs and contacted my parents.
04:27I was told that I wanted to become a manga artist, so I went to a manga school.
04:34Did your parents tell you that?
04:36That's unusual.
04:37It's the opposite.
04:39After graduating from manga school, I worked at a restaurant, a security guard, a cleaning shop, a manga school teacher, and a manga artist assistant.
04:51You did a lot of things.
04:53I did a lot of things.
04:55Did you have no choice but to work part-time?
04:59That's right. I didn't have any money.
05:02Were you poor?
05:05That's right.
05:07I didn't have any money, and my washing machine broke.
05:12The washing machine broke and I couldn't turn the drum.
05:18You couldn't turn it.
05:20The water would flow, but it wouldn't turn.
05:23At that time, I was working at a cleaning shop.
05:26There was a large drum at the cleaning shop.
05:28I saw the drum, turned it, and repeated it over and over again.
05:36I thought I'd do it myself.
05:39All manual?
05:41Yes, all manual.
05:43All manual washing machine.
05:45Did you make this water flow with your hands?
05:47Yes.
05:49With a washing machine?
05:51If you were working at a cleaning shop, you could have done it with a washing machine.
05:55I couldn't wash my underwear.
05:58Oh, I see.
06:00How did you eat?
06:02I only ate tofu.
06:05Because you didn't have money.
06:07You look like a hungry man.
06:10It's because of my jersey.
06:12You have a strong body.
06:14Yes, I'm strong.
06:16When he was 29 years old in 2021, he was in Weekly Manga Goraku.
06:22He was the first serialized manga in Smiley.
06:25That's early.
06:27Is this the first serialized manga?
06:29Yes.
06:31He is a manga artist who draws cult religion and suspense horror.
06:38Why did you decide to draw on this theme?
06:43Why?
06:45Why?
06:47Well, I used to hate making fun of others.
06:53You were afraid of making fun of others.
06:56Yes, I was afraid of making fun of my family and friends.
07:00I was afraid of making fun of others and making fun of myself.
07:07You were afraid of making fun of yourself.
07:09Yes, I was afraid of that.
07:11Have you always been afraid of that?
07:13Yes, I have.
07:15I see.
07:17Is that the reason why you decided to draw on this theme?
07:21Yes, I think that was the biggest reason.
07:24It takes a lot of courage to draw on cult religion, doesn't it?
07:28Yes.
07:30There was a manga I used to draw in Weekly Manga Goraku.
07:34I wanted to draw a zombie with a smiling face.
07:40It's a horror manga.
07:41I wanted to draw a zombie with a smiling face.
07:43But I thought it would be better to draw a cult religion.
07:47I thought it would be better to draw a cult religion.
07:51I see.
07:53Let's start with Sumairi.
07:56Yamamoto-san, please introduce the manga.
08:00Weekly Manga Goraku has been serialized since 2021.
08:04The manga is on sale until volume 9.
08:07The number of copies sold is more than 1.3 million copies.
08:11It's a big hit.
08:13To give you a brief summary,
08:15the main character is a free writer named Yushi Kamome,
08:19who lost his lover in a car accident.
08:22Desperate, Kamome was taken away by his wife Megumi,
08:25and he spent his days like an outcast.
08:27One day, a poster of a cult religion that he didn't know about
08:31changed his fate.
08:34The image of Megumi, his wife, was on the poster.
08:38So, Kamome sneaked into the shrine to find out the truth.
08:44It's a suspense horror that depicts the madness and darkness
08:48of the cult religion, which is invited by an evil smile.
08:51I'd like to ask you a lot of questions.
08:53This time, we have Sumairi's editor,
08:56a Japanese writer, Mr. Sano.
08:59Nice to meet you.
09:02Mr. Sano,
09:03you were in charge of Mr. Ninomiya's Gannibal, right?
09:09Yes, I was.
09:11It's a recent story.
09:13He's no good.
09:16It's okay.
09:18He's motivated.
09:20He's motivated, but he doesn't write.
09:23I'm sure he'll do it.
09:25I trust him too much.
09:27Not yet?
09:29I trust Mr. Ninomiya too much.
09:31The sequel to Gannibal is about to start streaming.
09:36We wrote an autograph on the girl's bar.
09:39Are you sure?
09:41I'm sure it'll be fine.
09:43We wrote an autograph on the girl's bar.
09:46It says, Akemi-chan.
09:48It's my first time.
09:50We talk a lot about Sumairi's Gannibal.
09:54Do you have any feedback?
09:56Thanks to Sumairi's Gannibal,
09:58Mr. Ninomiya was very happy.
10:02I didn't expect him to watch this.
10:05I don't know if he's happy or not.
10:08I'm sorry.
10:10I'd like to ask you some questions.
10:13Here's the first question.
10:15In Sumairi, what's your favorite scene and why?
10:22Here's the answer.
10:24This is the last page of episode 29.
10:26The last page of the third volume.
10:28This is the scene that I wanted to draw for a long time.
10:33I remember that I was happy when I finally drew it.
10:37I was happy with the reader's reaction.
10:40Let's take a look at it.
10:43Here it is.
10:45It's a scene where a turtle with friends starts to move.
10:49This is the scene.
10:51It's a very scary scene.
10:54It's like, who is justice?
10:57I can finally show it.
10:59It's that face.
11:01This is the end.
11:03Did you want to draw this scene?
11:06Yes.
11:08I wanted to draw this in the second half of the second volume.
11:12I was really happy when I drew this.
11:15You were running towards this.
11:17Yes.
11:19Why did you decide to draw this?
11:21I tend to be egoistic.
11:24When I'm egoistic, this is where the reader's reaction is the best.
11:29Like, it's getting exciting.
11:31It was hot.
11:33It's a horror suspense, but I wanted to draw a hot scene.
11:38It's a scene where you're burning with revenge.
11:40I was really happy when I got that reaction.
11:43You're happy when people react to what you're aiming for.
11:46Sensei, are you egoistic?
11:50I do it once every five minutes.
11:52That's fast!
11:54You're always watching.
11:56Do you use Smiley?
11:58I use Smiley, Manga, Smiley, and Hattori Mitei.
12:03I use anything.
12:05You use Smiley Kikuchi too.
12:07I use Smiley in my daily life.
12:10I'm sure it'll come out.
12:12Don't you get depressed when you see the reaction?
12:14Don't you get depressed?
12:16I get depressed when I'm told that I didn't understand it well.
12:20You get depressed when you don't understand it.
12:23That's right.
12:25Do you use Yamauchi?
12:27I use it all the time.
12:29Kamaitachi, Yamauchi.
12:31When I see negative comments, I block them and report them as spam.
12:40Why do you do spam?
12:42Block is fine.
12:44It's fine.
12:46It goes up.
12:48I try to do it in advance.
12:52Because it's dangerous.
12:54Do you do Kawashima-san?
12:57I only do the live broadcast in the morning.
13:00When I see it during the commercial, I search for it.
13:06Because it's live, I don't know if it's funny or not.
13:09I think it's scary if it's very angry.
13:12I think it's good to receive it.
13:15I block all the people who are involved in Yamauchi in advance.
13:23People who say strange things to entertainers.
13:27I think they'll come here.
13:30I think it's a bug.
13:32I think there's a bug in the neighbor's house.
13:35I'll close the window.
13:37It's a fan club.
13:39It's important.
13:41SNS is important.
13:43I see.
13:45I also like this scene.
13:48It's my favorite scene.
13:50If you take a questionnaire, it's here.
13:52Kamome is worried that he is involved in the new introduction.
13:59I'm glad he wasn't involved.
14:02I was wondering if he was the only one who was trying to manipulate the new introduction.
14:11I didn't expect him to have a friend.
14:15Until then, I thought he was the only one who talked about cultism.
14:23From there, the battle began.
14:30I was surprised by the expansion.
14:35It's an organization against an organization.
14:37I thought I couldn't win.
14:40I was excited to think that I could fight.
14:46What do you think, Sensei?
14:49I thought Kamome couldn't win.
14:53He couldn't win by himself.
14:55I thought Kamome couldn't win by himself.
14:57Then I saw Uozumi in the first episode.
15:00I thought I could beat Uozumi.
15:03Are you cooking in a refrigerator?
15:06Isn't this a plot?
15:09Oh, Uozumi is here.
15:11Are you going to stir-fry vegetables with this?
15:13That's amazing.
15:15Originally, it was said that it would be completed in the third volume.
15:23When I was drawing, I was told that I could continue.
15:28Then he said, let's make it bigger.
15:32As a manga artist, this is the third volume of enthusiasm.
15:37It's expanding.
15:39What did you think of this scene?
15:43It was exciting.
15:45I thought the work itself could be expanded.
15:48I remember going to Hattori Sensei.
15:50Did you get a lot of reactions from the readers?
15:54I got a lot of reactions in the second volume.
15:57So, I thought I could continue.
16:01Uozumi is here.
16:03So, Uozumi is here.
16:05So, Uozumi is here.
16:07So, Uozumi is here.
16:09Numa Numa Numa Numa Numa
16:11Numa Numa Numa Numa Numa
16:13Numa Numa Numa Numa Numa
16:15Numa Numa Numa Numa Numa
16:17I don't remember anything.
16:19I'm sorry. I'm really a writer.
16:26What's your favorite scene, Kawashima-san?
16:28I was absorbed in the first volume.
16:32I really like this scene.
16:35This one.
16:37Kamome didn't tell me his cell phone number.
16:41I asked him why he knew it.
16:43It was a crowded place.
16:46I asked him why he knew my number.
16:51In the previous scene, everyone was walking around the city.
16:55But in the first page, everyone was smiling and looking at me.
16:58That's scary.
17:00I think this scene is a sign that the city is full of new people.
17:08I really like this scene.
17:11How about you, Kawashima-san?
17:14Well, this scene...
17:17What was it?
17:19I don't remember anything.
17:21I'm sorry. I'm really a writer.
17:25I don't know if you're wearing a mask.
17:28Did you draw it without thinking?
17:30This scene is a scene where I think Kamome is here.
17:36Yes, yes, yes.
17:37I think he's here.
17:39I think he's listening to this and he's acting strange.
17:44I see.
17:46It's like a fantasy.
17:48I can see that he's saying,
17:50I know everything about the new world.
17:54That's a scary scene.
17:56Everyone is so fascinated that they can't help but see the new world.
18:00That's the symbol.
18:02Nomadomadomadoma
18:03Next, we'll reveal Hattori-sensei's favorite character!
18:08I've always wanted to draw this part.
18:10I actually like this part a lot too.
18:16Let's move on to the next question.
18:19Who is your favorite character in SMILEE?
18:24Here's Sensei's answer.
18:26It's Imanami.
18:28I wanted to draw a scary character that you don't know what he's doing.
18:33I wanted to draw a calm character, so I drew Imanami.
18:38I sympathized with Imanami as I drew him.
18:41I remember crying when I drew him in the scene where he was purged.
18:45Let me explain Imanami Akira.
18:50He's a new editor of Weekly Kocho.
18:57He also has the face of a believer in the Shinshokai.
19:02Sensei, you're in charge of the Shinshokai.
19:05What kind of character is he?
19:08I wanted to draw a traitor.
19:13I wanted to draw a calm character.
19:16I thought a traitor would be the scariest.
19:22We think he's a mob.
19:24As I drew him more and more,
19:28I felt like he was chasing after his life.
19:34I sympathized with him as I drew him.
19:41In the last scene of the purge,
19:44I felt sorry for him.
19:49You can't avoid purging in the story.
19:53You can't change your destiny.
19:56Here's the scene.
19:58This is sad.
20:03He's going to be purged.
20:06Even though he did his best.
20:08There's no dialogue in this scene, right?
20:09No, there isn't.
20:10You just drew him as he is?
20:13Yes, I decided to draw him at the end of Imanami.
20:17I was really happy when I drew him.
20:22I've always wanted to draw this part.
20:24I like this part, too.
20:27The upper right looks good.
20:31It looks like the same face.
20:33Yes, it does.
20:34I'll cry when I draw this.
20:37How do you decide the goal?
20:43I think about it in the first volume.
20:46I also think about the overall flow.
20:49I think about what I want to show in the story.
20:52I see.
20:53This is the climax of the story.
20:55This is the climax of the story.
20:59I see.
21:05Next time, Hattori-sensei will do a serious survey.
21:08He'll ask his teacher to hold an off-show.
21:13I'll do it in reverse.
21:19He says that's the truth.
21:26He's trying not to be exposed.
21:28He's really scary.
21:29He's really scary.
21:30This is actually me.
21:32What?
21:33Please look forward to it!
21:38You've released the 9th volume of Smile Gezaki.
21:43How much did you spend on it?
21:46About 90%.
21:48Then, the 10th volume is over.
21:50It's a simple calculation.
21:51It's a simple calculation.
21:53Is there a possibility that it will be extended?
21:56No, there isn't.
21:57No, there isn't.
21:58It's a mistake.
21:59Is there a scene at the end?
22:02Yes, there is.
22:04I'm curious.