In the '90s, Bollywood musicians RD Burman, Laxmikant-Pyarelal, and Bappi Lahiri were accused of copying tunes. Laxmikant-Pyarelal’s "Jumma Chumma" and Bappi’s "Tamma Tamma" both used a melody from African singer Mori Kante, leading to controversy. Choreographer Saroj Khan discussed this with Lehren, revealing the dark side of Bollywood. Don’t miss her insights.
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00:00Hawa hawa saath pictures mein repeat ho raha hai, tab ethics kahan gaye, tab logon ne
00:05mana kyun nahi kiya, kyunki wo Pakistan ka gaana tha isliye jab ko haq ke copy karne
00:10kar.
00:11We are technician, humein kisi se kya karna hai?
00:15This is fight between producer, music director and the director.
00:19Jahan tak copy karne ka sawal hai, humaari industry toh shuru se bhed chaal hai.
00:24Main kuch kahun, aap kuch kahe, kuch nahi hone wala.
00:27This is going to be there.
00:28Tell me which original tune is in Maine Pyaar Kiya?
00:39Saroj ji, Tamma Tamma aur Chumma Chumma yeh do geeto ke beech ho rahi controversy ke
00:44baar mein humein aap kuch bataayenge?
00:48Aise dekhne jaye toh koi controversy hona nahi chahiye.
00:52Because ek western hai aur ek totally Indian hai.
00:56It doesn't have to be any controversy.
00:59Dono gaane apne apne jagah pe bahot achche hai and they are quite well picturised.
01:07Ek sangeetkar ne jab gaana record kar liya, toh doosre ne sunkar waisa hi gaana tayyaar
01:12kiya.
01:13Kya morally doosre geet ko picturise karne me aapne jo saath diya wo sahi tha?
01:20Bilkul sahi tha because we are technician.
01:23Humein kisi se kya karna hai?
01:25This is fight between producer, music director and the director.
01:30Artist yeh nahi kaisakta mai kaam nahi karunga.
01:32Technician yeh nahi kaisakta mai kaam nahi karunga.
01:36Humara farz hai achcha kaam karke dena.
01:39That's all.
01:40Wo kahan se laate hain gaana?
01:42Kaise banaate hain?
01:43Humein usse kya karna?
01:45Aur jahaan tak copy karne ka sawal hai, humare industry toh shuru se bhed chaal hai.
01:51Agar ek hero achcha hai, toh usko das sign karenge.
01:54Agar ek hat gaya, toh das hat gaye.
01:56Koi nahi baat nahi, ek gaana achcha hai, toh sab uske peechhe lag jaate hain, wo style
02:01ke peechhe lag jaate hain.
02:02Ab ek do teen, pachis picturon me same repeat kiya gaya, toh kisi ne booma boom ki?
02:07Nahi.
02:09The song is popular, you can't help it.
02:11Hawa Hawa saath picturon me repeat ho raha hai, tab ethics kaan gaye?
02:16Tab logon ne mana kyu nahi kiya?
02:20Kyuki wo Pakistan ka gaana tha, isliye jab ko haq ke copy karne kar.
02:24Bolte na gareeb ki bibi, jab ki babi.
02:27Why?
02:30You shouldn't be, agar aisa hai toh morally shuru se dekho, aap mat copy karo.
02:35And Laxmikant Pyarenand ne, he hasn't taken an original tune.
02:39Even he has gone for a copy.
02:45Sir, Pappi Lahiri ne bhi suna, usne bhi suna, usne apna banaya, usne apna banaya.
02:49That's the problem.
02:51Original tune nahi hai, toh phir yeh jagda kyu ho raha hai?
02:55Original tune hai nahi, this is an African tune, everyone knows about it.
02:59Pappi Lahiri ne kya kiya hai, he has taken words also from the same group, ek record
03:06me se aur music jo hai, he has taken from a second record of the same group.
03:13Wo do ko mix karke usne banaya.
03:15Yaha inhone sirf tama tama ke badle me chuma chuma liye.
03:19Tama tama is the original word from that record.
03:25Jo original record hai African, usme tama tama hi hai.
03:29Which I have one duplicate of it.
03:32Agar yeh dono geeto ko picturise karne me, dance director aapko hi chuna jaata, toh
03:38kya aap yeh dono geet picturise karti?
03:40Karti, phir me itna guts hai, dono alag alag kisam ka picturise karke deti.
03:47I would have tried to make ek, ek do teen ek bana aur one two ka four ek bana.
03:52Sir, style dono alag alag hai, chuma chuma is a different style, tama tama is a different
03:58style, toh me dono bhi gaane kar leti.
04:01Aapko in dono geeto ka future kya lag raha hai?
04:06Very bright.
04:08Because Amitabh has got his own audience.
04:12Wo definitely utke nachenge us gaane pe.
04:14But it's so beautifully picturised.
04:16Though I haven't seen the full song, jo video me dikhate hain, utna hi dekha hai,
04:21but it's worth it.
04:23Same for tama tama, the only difference is people don't expect Sanjay Dutt to dance.
04:29Because he's got two left feet.
04:32But he has dance that might click with the audience.
04:37And I must say about Sudhir that he has not kept anything back, like he has done his utmost
04:45expenditure me, costumes me, shifts me, he never said anything.
04:51They went out and out for it.
04:53Yeh jo tunes lift kiye jaa rahe hain, aap iske baare mein kya kehna chahengi?
04:58Yeh toh shuru se chala aa raha hai, mai kuch kahu, aap kuch kahe, kuch nahi hone wala.
05:03This is going to be there.
05:05Tell me which original tune is in Maine Pyaar Kiya?
05:10Tell me.
05:12I'll give you every copy of English numbers.
05:14Maine Pyaar Kiya, every number is a copy.
05:20Hit ho gayi, ho gayi, bas.
05:23We are only concerned with the hits.
05:25We are not concerned from where the material is coming.
05:28As long as your pictures are running, why do we ask where it's coming from?
05:35Aap yeh bata rahi thi ki, jo gaana aapko originally picturise karne diya gaya tha for the mahoorat
05:43of a film.
05:43This song was originally Ramesh Sikkim's song.
05:47Kyun ki main Ramesh Sippy, Lakshmi ji, baith ke yeh gaana sun chuke hain and we were supposed
05:56to do this song on mahoorat day of Ram Ki Sita aur Shyam Ki Geeta.
06:03It was supposed to be the mahoorat song.
06:06Ek shot mein picturise karna tha.
06:08Time was very less.
06:10We were not getting time for rehearsals.
06:13Toh unhone decide kiya ki chalo abhi nahi karenge, thoda time rukke karenge.
06:22How did the song go to Ramesh Sharma?
06:25That's a different story.
06:28I don't know that.
06:29Because when I heard it, I rang up to Rameshji and I said, Rameshji yeh gaana toh hamara tha.
06:35He says, Saroj, ab main kya bolu, kaisa chala gaya ho gaya?
06:39So, it should be Ramesh Sippy who should be shouting, not Ramesh Sharma.
06:46You understand?
06:47Because this song was supposed to be the mahoorat song of that picture.
06:52And even Lakshmikanth can't say that it's not true because I was there when this was made.
07:00I have never opened my mouth because they just keep on yapping, yapping, yapping.
07:04They don't go to the base.
07:05It should be Ramesh Sippy who should shout, how did my song go there?
07:11Time was less, fir bole jaane do abhi nahi karte hain, practice karte karte time lagega,
07:17toh might as well hum, aah, un dino mein Shri Devi ko moch aayi thi paav mein.
07:22Toh song nahi karenge, 14 page ka ek scene karenge, in one shot.
07:28They did that.
07:35So, it should be Ramesh Sippy who should be shouting, not Ramesh Sharma.