En las últimas horas, se difundieron, a través de las redes sociales, diversos videos en los que se ve al exfutbolista Néstor Ortigoza maltratando a su expareja y madre de sus hijos, Lucía Cassiau. El dirigente de San Lorenzo ya había sido denunciado por violencia de género por su exesposa en agosto.
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00:00familiar with the case, Mariano.
00:02Well, the story is as follows.
00:04Today, three or four videos of Néstor Ezequiel Ortigoza were shared on social media.
00:16The player is a glory in San Lorenzo.
00:19He scored the penalty of the Copa Libertadores.
00:23Exactly. It's a long story within San Lorenzo, also with the Paraguayan national team, I understand.
00:27He is a member of the current board of directors of San Lorenzo.
00:30Well, and here I go.
00:32In that video, he is seen raping his wife in the presence of minors,
00:38which we are going to preserve because we have an express request from the court.
00:42Very well.
00:43I don't know, we are going to establish, we are going to show the video only once.
00:48Do you want to show it?
00:49Only once.
00:50Do you want to show it?
00:51So as not to victimize again, yes?
00:53Because the situation is really compromising.
00:55There is a case in the UFI 3 under the charge of Lorena González,
00:59who is the prosecutor on gender violence for aggravated assaults.
01:03It's there.
01:04Presented by?
01:05The woman.
01:06When?
01:07This is recent.
01:09It's been a few months, six months, more or less, that this issue ...
01:12In fact, he had already been convicted in another case, in this case for co-active threats.
01:20Yes, against another person.
01:22It's a 2015 case.
01:24In Merlo.
01:25Exactly.
01:26He had been convicted for threatening an employee of the club.
01:34Something that, in one way or another, I understand that this complaint did not prosper.
01:39He was not convicted, he had been prosecuted.
01:41He has been convicted for two and a half years.
01:43Well, I have another date.
01:45But it doesn't matter.
01:46The point is that here you have the video.
01:49Do you want to see it, Fabian?
01:50Okay.
01:55There it is.
01:58This is in the kitchen.
01:59Yes.
02:00In the house.
02:01She was recording it because, obviously, he became violent.
02:08And when he saw that she was recording, he hit her with the cell phone.
02:13The one who has the right hand, who ends up throwing it on the table.
02:18This is one of the videos.
02:19There is a counter image, that is, an image from the other side, which is the one that she manages to capture.
02:26When he comes at her.
02:29You see that he makes that movement, he throws the phone at her.
02:32He gives her a kind of slap.
02:35The phone falls.
02:37He grabs it, he takes it.
02:38You can see the flash of the phone.
02:43You see?
02:44There it is.
02:45They keep arguing.
02:47He throws the phone on the table.
02:49She goes and picks it up again.
02:53This is a security camera inside the house.
02:56Exactly.
02:58But there is an image.
03:00I don't know if you have it, Ale.
03:01Sorry, Marian.
03:02There is an image that is the background.
03:04This is another one.
03:05This is in the garden.
03:08He hit her with the ball and gave her the phone that she was recording.
03:13This is against her phone.
03:16Against the phone, of course.
03:18Exactly.
03:22There it is.
03:23This is the background.
03:26This is the background of the beating that we saw before.
03:29In the background you can see the security camera.
03:32And this is what she records.
03:33She comes to record her phone and he gives her the hand.
03:36Exactly.
03:37Justice carried out a search in her house in Terralagos, which is a country of Canning,
03:42where Ortigoza shared with his family.
03:45They found two 9mm pistols, a Glock and a Bersa, and 84 ammunition.
03:52Apparently, Ortigoza practiced shooting blanks.
03:55But here we go to the institutional part.
03:57Because this man was a vocal in San Lorenzo de Almagro
04:01from the last election or the re-election of authorities that took place in 2023.
04:07And at that time, Fabian was in charge of professional football.
04:11That is, he was like a sort of manager of professional football.
04:14What happened a month, a month and a half ago?
04:17He began to make statements against President Moretti.
04:21Not to coincide with President Moretti.
04:23So, what did they do?
04:25They took professional football from him.
04:27It is not that they took it from him because of gender violence to professional football,
04:30but for internal issues.
04:33Now, what has San Lorenzo done in the last few hours?
04:36This statement that I have here.
04:38I don't know if you have scanned it.
04:40Because San Lorenzo's gender violence protocol has acted,
04:44following the convention that I always talk about, of Belen do Pará,
04:47in law 26485, which is for the integral protection of women.
04:51And in this way, they have asked Ortigoza to resign.
04:55What they clarify to me from within San Lorenzo is that Ortigoza was not employed,
04:59he did not earn a salary, he was not an employee of the institution,
05:02he did not earn a salary, that's why they can't fire him.
05:04No, the thing is that vocal.
05:05Vocal is a directive.
05:07He was elected.
05:09He was elected.
05:10He was elected.
05:11By the board of the club members within a list.
05:14In the list.
05:15As a vocal, he managed until now.
05:18They have asked him to resign.
05:20What they clarify to me is that if he does not resign,
05:22because of this scandal,
05:24because of this crime of violence against his wife,
05:27they will have to activate the administrative procedure of the supreme body
05:31that is constituted,
05:33raises the accusation,
05:35and the directive commission expels him.
05:37Which is a situation of administrative process
05:41to disconnect him from El Santo de Bohe.
05:45That is to say, this is the information that they pass to me from San Lorenzo.
05:49Don't lie.
05:50Absolute ignorance on the subject.
05:51Was this video necessary?
05:54Well, up to here.
05:55Of course, they are going to say that the complaint is the complaint.
05:57Up to here, obviously.
05:58There was no complaint.
05:59The authorities did not have.
06:01Yes.
06:02Yes, we all knew, I'm wrong.
06:04It did not come to light in the media.
06:06Yes, it was known.
06:07It was in a complaint process by this woman.
06:11What happens is that the videos are known now,
06:13as Variano said,
06:14and what it does is to enhance much more to reactivate the cause.
06:18For a cause of gender violence against a famous person to walk,
06:21do you have to broadcast a video?
06:23For cancellation, yes.
06:25For the cause to move?
06:26Yes.
06:27It gives ...
06:29It is possible.
06:30Yes.
06:31The image always gives ...
06:33So if Fabiola Yañez did not have photos, no one would believe her?
06:37No one would believe her.
06:38No.
06:39And if the woman Ortigoza is not in this video, no one would believe her?
06:41No.
06:42There are many false complaints too.
06:43No, no, I ask ...
06:44Here I am going to run ...
06:46No, no, I ask ...
06:47With all the gender perspective on the table,
06:50I'm going to run from my role as a communicator,
06:52and I'm going to put myself as a lawyer.
06:54No, I did not speak of guilt.
06:55Careful, because the courts also ...
06:56I asked that the cases move.
06:58Okay, but the courts also have false complaints,
07:02and the judges have to determine the false complaints.
07:04Okay, but I ask ...
07:05For the message that we are giving indirectly to society,
07:08no one says it.
07:09No one, like me at this moment, says,
07:11if a woman, so that her hair is given in court,
07:15they will tell me, no, there are 500 cases.
07:17When it is a famous person who is on the other side,
07:20Yes.
07:21Do you have to mediatize it?
07:22No.
07:23You are right, you ...
07:24Because there are many cases of famous ...
07:27No, no, I change the question.
07:28Condemned without prior mediation.
07:30I change the question, I change the question.
07:32Let's see, generally a company, a company,
07:37unbinds you when there is a sentence.
07:41That is, never.
07:42Well, when there is a sentence.
07:44How long does the sentence take?
07:45It takes, it takes a while.
07:46A thousand years.
07:47What happens here is that it rushes ...
07:48How long did the Dematop take?
07:50And in total until it closed, 23 years.
07:52Yes, but this takes less.
07:54Yes, ten.
07:55Here, the approval load of the video
07:58forces the San Lorenzo institution to take a measure.
08:02No, but here is what must be applied,
08:03it is also an internal protocol.
08:05That's why I agree with what San Lorenzo did.
08:07What I ask is, a woman,
08:09because since the beginning of the program
08:10we have put images of two women
08:12victims of gender violence.
08:14One with images of the blows
08:16and another where the fact itself is seen.
08:19The only way a woman has in Argentina
08:22to move a file of gender violence
08:24against a famous ...
08:26I do not say powerful, famous.
08:28Powerful, if you want, also a president.
08:30It is with video or photographic witnesses,
08:35if they do not cause it, it does not move?
08:37You know that this is a very important test element.
08:41No, and sometimes there are a lot of people
08:43who do not give a ball to justice,
08:45well to the media.
08:46And we sometimes can not intervene
08:48because there are things that we are forbidden
08:50But what Mariano says,
08:52that sometimes we do not advance,
08:54personal decision that I have taken,
08:56I do not count any case,
08:57nor do I put the air of gender violence,
08:59that I do not have a previous complaint.
09:00No, of course.
09:01No, no, I'm talking about people who
09:03presented the complaint, put everything,
09:05presented the evidence, and justice does not advance.
09:08I'm going to tell you one thing,
09:09the family causes,
09:11many years ago,
09:14that the causes of families did not reach television.
09:17Because you had the issue of self-satisfying measures
09:20that the parties asked for,
09:22to avoid diffusion,
09:24for the superior interest of the child and others,
09:27and we think it's perfect.
09:28In this case there is also a protective measure
09:31of the children,
09:32that's why the images were blurred.
09:34As it should be, it's very good.
09:36And it is not given to others.
09:37We think it's perfect that it is so.
09:40But what happens?
09:42When it comes to public figures,
09:44and the approval process transcends,
09:48there is a situation of cancellation,
09:51which is another discussion.
09:52Ah, that's another topic.
09:53It's another topic.
09:54What you have here...
09:55That's another topic.
09:56But I say, we must not lose the axis
09:58that many times, in a family cause,
10:00or in a conflicting divorce,
10:02refers to the accusation of gender violence,
10:05when sometimes it does not exist.
10:06Yes, it's true what you say,
10:07but what I'm talking about,
10:08when there is such overwhelming evidence,
10:11in this case with this video,
10:13it was necessary that the video
10:15took public knowledge
10:17so that everything started to move.
10:18That's what I say.
10:19Yes.
10:20I mean, to move it.
10:21Yes.