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00:00This is a good thing or a bad thing. Tell me
00:04Brock Purdy
00:07leads the NFL in
00:11Aggressive throw percentage AGP. Let me AGP AGG
00:18ATP AGG aggressive throw percentage ATP. I apologize. They call it AGG. I don't know why fine
00:26aggressive
00:28Giggity giggity giggity. Thank you. I don't know. Are you down with a GG? You know, you know me now
00:35Here's what it is. His a GG is
00:3824 point six
00:41AGG percentage so that we can define it for the people
00:46tracks the percentage of
00:49passing attempts thrown into coverage where
00:54Defender is within one yard or less of the receiver
00:59so
01:01More than any player in the NFL Brock throws at receivers where there's a defender a yard or less away
01:08Okay, okay
01:09also important
01:11among the top eight quarterbacks in
01:16AGG
01:18Brock Purdy has both the highest QB rating and
01:22the highest completion percentage
01:25So is that a good thing or a bad thing? It's a good thing. Okay, it's a good thing because you've got a team that
01:32Right now through two games has not had a ton of open receivers yet
01:37You have a quarterback who feels confident enough to make these throws into tight windows, and I'm thinking about the fourth down play
01:44From Sunday, yeah when he threw it to Jawan Jennings and there was not one not two
01:50But three defenders within a yard
01:52Maybe two within a yard and a third that was hovering in the area and it was shoop. He threaded that thing in there
01:59Beautifully, so as long as he doesn't have the most interceptions and also has the most aggressive throws
02:06Then it's a problem. But if the interceptions are down
02:09Then it's a good thing
02:11Well, I could take all kinds of things out of this is
02:14Here's the good like that means Brock is
02:17Aggressive that means Brock is
02:20accurate
02:23Those are all good things
02:24What are the bad things you take from it? Like the first thing that pops into my mind is why aren't people more open?
02:31Why aren't they open? Yeah, like is that a function of well Christians not on the field
02:37Brandon's not at full strength. Kyle's not scheming him open. I mean I could my mind can go a bunch of different places
02:45Why is Brock having to throw balls at everybody?
02:48Who's got somebody a yard away from him?
02:53Debatable a lot of it. Yeah able. I don't know
02:57Right now only two quarterbacks have been sacked more than Brock Purdy, right?
03:03Largely that's because of one game though
03:05Yeah, like six of the eight sacks like yeah
03:08He had a Gardner Minshew and Caleb Williams have been sacked more nine times apiece. So yes, it is one game
03:14You got sacked twice against the Jets and six times against Minnesota and of those six
03:20I would tell you that three of them were yeah, they were sacks dive down
03:23He was they were dive downs and he was trying to get back to the line of scrimmage if he gets one more yard on
03:28Two of them. They're not sacks. So not every sack is created equally
03:33But I do think it's more of a byproduct of the first thing you said, which is guys just aren't getting open
03:39You don't have McCaffrey
03:41Who is great in the past game out of the backfield out of the slot and out wide when he is out there
03:47It's rare, but when he's out there sure and right now brand my uke although he was open a lot
03:54Against Minnesota and if you look at the all-22
03:56There was three or four plays where he was open and the pass protection broke down and Brock couldn't get him the ball
04:02but right now Iuke's having a hard time of separating and I know that I think Stiney and goo were thrown out the
04:07stat about his
04:09Separation yards per route, which is about one yard per route, which is way down for him
04:15So as I uke starts to get into midseason form and right now he's played two preseason games
04:22Unfortunately, those were both regular season games, but I think now looking at Sunday
04:27You can expect Brandon Iuke to play more he played 80% on Sunday
04:32He'll play more snaps and you can expect him to do more. This should be his breakout game
04:38Well, I mean the same thing holds true for Brandon as it does for anybody else if we're gonna say well Brock Purdy
04:43This is a lesser entity when Christian McCaffrey or Debo Samuel are not on the field. Well, so is Brandon
04:50If you're a defender on the Rams, who are you paying attention to on Sunday?
04:54Yeah, I don't need to worry about Debo. No, I don't need to worry about Christian
04:57I mean sure there are other people Jennings is good. Kittle is good. Mason will come out of the backfield. Sure
05:03So I'm not saying he's by himself out there, but he's the most talented
05:10Route runner and pass catcher that's gonna be on the field on
05:13On Sunday, so he's gonna have to do that without the normal attention that gets sent in other directions
05:20difficult task
05:22David and El Cerrito here on Willard and Debs. Hi David. What's up?
05:26How are you guys
05:29Yeah
05:32Kind of threw me with their logic. I'm just not gonna adjust it. I'm gonna move forward to my point
05:36Yeah, I apologize for being so logical and so sensible David
05:41Wait a minute. What did he say David? I want to know well his comments about maybe
05:46Brock Purdy is throwing it into guys who are covered so often because he's not seen the guys who are open
05:53That's part of it David certainly and it's hard
05:56It's hard to throw it to guys who are open when you don't have time to find the open receiver
06:01Wait, are you said that dibs or you're saying that David? Are you saying that David David?
06:06You're saying mocking me for the simplistic way with which I delivered that point
06:10Is he mocking you or is he brocking you? Hang on now David
06:13Are you saying that Brock is throwing into coverage because he's not seeing the open people
06:18He might not be okay and he also
06:22Might also be seeing things late and therefore has to gun it in there later
06:26I don't know the answer. I actually think the stat is useless. So your original question about useless
06:32Isn't this that I don't know that we can make much of it. Um, I don't think it's useless and that wasn't my question
06:39I just asked if it was a good thing or a bad thing because I think you could read it two ways I
06:45Do I do want to make the quarterback point though, go ahead point that Schleyer was making I am a Daniel Jones fan
06:52Oh god, I am a Sam Darnold fan. Okay, these are all things to say
06:56I think Flair's make the very good point. Okay, but Daniel Jones, but the thing she does well
07:01I think that teams are caught in a dated
07:06mindset about
07:07drafting a quarterback and thinking that guy is going to be there for 10 to 15 years and the reason I think that is there
07:14Are so many fewer quarterbacks coming out of college who are designed to be pocket passers
07:20But the NFL only keeps those guys alive if they're pocket passers
07:24Lamar is kind of rare you had Cam Newton who had a moment
07:29he could have won a Super Bowl but didn't and then he fades and
07:31You look at the Eagles and they're like they don't expect Jalen Hurst to be their quarterback for 10 to 12 years
07:36They have him as a window. You have to now think to yourself. Who can my quarterback be?
07:41Who can I get now coming out of college the way that they're developing them because there's just not enough guys
07:46We're going to last like a Manning or a Rogers or a breeze
07:50They're just not that many available anymore because they're not developed in that way
07:53So you have to find your quarterback and you have to say can he win in my system?
07:57The Steelers are like we take Justin Fields and can he win in this system with this small window because we know he's not a
08:03Guy for 10 years and slur it is right
08:05You have to develop
08:06Quarterbacks to fit into what you have and don't make them what they're not
08:11Take what they have and try to win with them in those smaller windows
08:14I think you have some interesting points here David
08:16But can I can I ask a further question like it sounds to me like you're almost assessing at the time of the draft
08:24Whether or not this can be a 10-year player and I would argue that that's a question for a different day
08:29Like some of them can and you won't know that until you get them into your system
08:34My homes Josh Allen Joe Burrow, etc. Lamar Jackson, I think those are 10-year players
08:40I like but but that's not something you can assess right away. I do by your point that
08:47The pick is not as simple as are you good? Or are you not? It's do you fit here and and and I do think
08:57But Lamar wasn't drafted with the concept like they knew what he did well
09:01That Lamar is lasting as long as he is doing what he does is really an anomaly and you're starting to see kind of
09:09Cracks in Lamar even this year. I mean the first two games
09:12Like air mailing flowers and that one game like this last game wasn't a great game for him
09:17You're starting to see cracks in that style of play over time
09:20So I think that when you're drafting quarterbacks, you can draft the guy and say this guy's not gonna be with me for 10 years
09:26He might be with me for five
09:28but I only need him for five to win one title and that's like the Jalen Hurts model at least how I see it because those
09:34Guys aren't gonna be built to last because they're not gonna be in the pocket the whole time
09:37So are you suggesting the team should stop signing quarterbacks to the big mega second contract and sort of treat them like running backs? I
09:46think some a
09:49Long-term second contract some guys. I just don't think that they all are just because they come available
09:54You look at Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins, they are not special players. They have never been special players
09:59They never will be special players
10:01They'll never win titles
10:01But they are part of an old way of thinking about how a quarterback can last in a pocket sitting in a pocket
10:08Delivering balls and they get these massive contracts for years, but ultimately those guys just hold franchises back
10:14There's definitely a Jalen Hurts that can take a franchise further for a shorter period of time
10:19So it's like what do you really want?
10:21I look at Brock and I'm like look this guy is pretty good. It's kind of like other guys
10:26But is he a 10-year guy not the way I see it and it's not that many of them
10:31So I just feel like the model for which you draft quarterback to develop quarterback kind of has to change
10:36Sometimes you're gonna find that guy. I like Drake May. I love Drake May. I don't really love Caleb Williams
10:42I love them for different reasons Drake Mays can play for 12 to 15 years
10:45I don't know how long Kayla's gonna play for he's gonna get murdered out there
10:48So, I think there's an assessment of what you need when you need it, but it's not the way that it was in the 90s
10:53David, thanks
10:56I do think that for me
10:58Anyway, it comes down to coach and quarterback fit as much as it does the individual quarterback and the Lamar Jackson question is
11:06Fascinating because the talent is unbelievable two-time MVP and he gets you to the playoffs almost every year
11:14Is he the kind of quarterback who can win from the pocket in January?
11:17Well so far he hasn't he hasn't been great in the playoffs and you can look at Dak Prescott
11:22similarly a guy who's been unbelievable in the regular year, but hasn't won in the playoffs and so does that mean that Brock Purdy is
11:30Because he doesn't have the eye-popping skill that he can't be a 10-year guy. I
11:35Feel like that conversation while interesting was also at too many points was broad brush
11:41Like when you say this needs to be the model, I don't know that there needs to be a model
11:45there is no model the model is let's do this case by case and
11:50I do think when you talk about Lamar and Brock and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow and all of these guys
11:58I wonder I don't think it'll necessarily go this way, but someday are we gonna be looking at Mahomes like Jordan?
12:05I don't want to dismiss the careers of Patrick Ewing and Charles Barkley and Reggie Miller
12:12I don't want to do that. They just happen to play at the same time as Jordan
12:16So they never won the whole shebang
12:18We may we may be looking at this like that and that doesn't mean these players aren't good
12:24And then you go down a rung in my opinion and get to the players
12:28He brought up who he said are like holding organizations back Derek Carr
12:34Kirk Cousins I
12:36Understand where you're coming from this is sort of that vast wasteland that I don't know what you do if you're a team
12:42Where you're looking at your QB, and you're going yeah, probably not like Dak Prescott Kyler Murray Derek Carr
12:50Kirk Cousins sure they're all good examples like that probably not gonna win a championship
12:55But my god looks a hell of a lot better than Bryce Young or or your guy Daniel Jones
13:01Who you called in about that was the like there were a few oddities there you started with I'm a Daniel Jones fan
13:07And then ripped Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins who are in my opinion unequivocally better than Daniel Jones, right?
13:14Derek Carr was once upon a time on track to be the MVP of the league and then it's broke. It's broke
13:19It's broke happened. Yeah, and the Raiders suddenly were not in the playoffs anymore
13:24So like you can have one-off seasons with those guys good things can happen
13:30But what are you asking the team to do?
13:33It's why Dallas just gave Dak 60 million you're gonna win it all probably not
13:38But what do you want? What would you want him to do start Cooper rush?
13:43What's their other option?
13:46Relevant with these guys exactly and that to me becomes more of the bar than being a Super Bowl champion
13:52Because Josh Allen he may never win a Super Bowl because like you said Reggie Miller Charles Barkley
13:58Allen happens to be in the AFC at the exact same time as Patrick Mahomes
14:02And so that might be preventive of him winning a Super Bowl same thing for Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow as well
14:09So it's not only about can they win a Super Bowl or not?
14:13Derek Carr becomes an interesting one and it's definitely recency bias, but through two weeks
14:18They are the talk of the town that offense is
14:22The most explosive offense in football and Derek Carr is the author of it and Dennis Allen the head coach who
14:28Many people thought should have been run out of town last year is now sitting on top of a 2-0 team with the hottest
14:35offense in football
14:36So everything changes quickly and if Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott if they get their teams to the playoffs
14:44But don't win the Super Bowl. Does that mean that they're not very good because only one quarterback wins the Super Bowl every year
14:52Well exactly, right. So no, it doesn't mean that so the other 31 quarterbacks are all
14:57Replaceable because they didn't get it done. Well, that's one thing that I just I wonder about like he kept referring to the model and
15:05It's funny in sports. We love to look for that the model and I just don't know that there is one like
15:13You could have a great model and then there'll be an exceptional player that comes in and totally blows up your model or it beats
15:19Your model think about how often the model changes, but we have a great example right here
15:24Remember when Colin Kaepernick joined the 49ers and oh my god the read option
15:29Holy hell gonna change the league took two years and defensive coordinators went check got it figured it out
15:36Doesn't mean that you can't run it anymore doesn't mean that quarterbacks like him can't play doesn't mean that Colin Kaepernick can't play
15:43We know that other story
15:45But the point is is that you have to you have to always be evolving and at any point
15:52The bees knees can change
15:55somebody can come in and just be like nope like we're gonna do it this way and
16:00Patrick Mahomes has done that and now that's the model and there's the standard and so we compare everyone to Patrick Mahomes
16:07Which is sort of ridiculous because there aren't any other Patrick Mahomes
16:11So that's all it's not like look at baseball well the Giants are gonna go analytics, that's the model
16:19Scratch that yeah, we're doing something else. What is it?
16:23We don't know yet like it's all it's gonna change it changes every year everything changes
16:28especially in football and you could look at any team and
16:32Most teams run different offenses then you look at the 49ers and there are about eight teams that run
16:38What the Niners try to run using a fullback and you know a run heavy set and all the rest of it that I think is
16:46highlighting for me anyway
16:48How different football is because different teams based on their personnel and the head coach they run offenses in a different fashion
16:55So every quarterback has to be tailor-made for that particular scheme and Brock Purdy
17:01I think for the Niners is a great fit for what Kyle's trying to run
17:04Here is Baldy's breakdown of Brock Purdy's game on Sunday in Minnesota from the morning rose today
17:12That he was good. He's always good. I mean it was tough throws in the middle of field or tough
17:16I don't know how to describe it Joe
17:17I you know he wasn't all world and I think some people just think he's got to be all world
17:22He misses McCaffrey in the passing game for sure there's no question about that
17:26It's just such a difference maker on really easy throws
17:30But in space where he does so much damage after not to take anything away from Jordan
17:35I think they do miss him
17:37No, he did deliver the knockout shots that for example that Sam did you know from the other side?
17:42I mean it you know the throw to Justin Jefferson and the throw to nailer at the end
17:46But he didn't deliver those type of knockout shots that you want him to be able to do. Yeah, it's funny
17:52I it's always it's not the words because if you wrote those down on a piece of paper
17:56You'd have a different reaction to what Baldy said listen to the tone
18:00Granted you can turn this off after his first four words. How did Brock do on Sunday?
18:05That he was good. He's always good
18:09Fine I
18:11Say fine, and you come down my road not on this one. I won't know I think that's exactly what he was on Sunday
18:17I don't think he was a huge problem. I don't think he was very good either
18:22Not a game to write home about a bad pick deep in your own zone. Yeah, that'll hurt you
18:29But he wasn't like embarrassing or awful or any of those things
18:33It was fine
18:34Grandi's grades coming up later in the program right we need to do that to get a chance to
18:39to get
18:40Grandi's professional look at it a guy who does the overtime show and the pregame shows at times here
18:46He does the football hour not the pregame show the football hour
18:49Grandi's a guy tough tough with the grades now, and so I wonder what he'll give Brock Purdy for his to turnover performance
18:57I would do that on Tuesday because it's kind of like a cooling-off period totally
19:01It's so it's very similar to what the league gives the players
19:04You don't let the media into the locker room right away because everybody needs a cooling-off period so does Grandi
19:09Can't do this on a Monday. Everybody would get enough
19:13Exactly would get enough so we wait till Tuesday take a breath, and let's see what we got and I'm Grady
19:18I want you to to feel free to change your grades from when you initially issue them
19:24To when you deliver them on the air because I know your grades come out within an hour normally after the game
19:29I see that graphic come out Grandi's grades, but maybe upon
19:34Reflection and further review you might have a different opinion when you watch the film a couple more times
19:39So I want you to feel free to alter your grades as you see fit
19:43Maybe maybe from film, but not based on what you guys say, that's for sure okay, okay?
19:48He's a better owen to a fantasy that's bitterness right there, but Baldy wasn't done with Brock by the way
19:54Oh, give me more. Here's here's more
19:57Steering some receivers down. I think he is locked in on some guys
20:00And he's kind of probably waiting too long for things to open up and some of that is okay
20:06I wasn't there at all during training camp in the offseason
20:09Kind of waiting on some things to happen and and you could get you could be found guilty of that sometimes, okay?
20:15So he said he's staring some receivers down and and maybe waiting a little bit too long
20:20You know we like whatever
20:21There's that you were giving the sacks stat and whenever you do that the old offensive line well some sacks are quarterbacks fault
20:28Yeah, like often in fact yeah
20:31And I do think that the one pick that he threw was exactly what Baldy saying staring down the receiver
20:36He stared down use check he saw him open and he waited too long and that ball was late coming out
20:42And that's why the ball got intercepted
20:44And I think that his praise of Brian Flores while part of me it kind of cringes at him
20:51Praising the opposing defensive coordinator. It's classy, and he's not wrong when he says all your scheme, man
20:58Your scheme was great
20:59But part of me is like you don't need to compliment the opposing defensive coordinator on his scheme
21:05When you just went out there and lost a game
21:07But it was clear that that was a factor that the Brian Flores defensive scheme
21:12Confused Brock Purdy a little bit shades of Draymond green hugging LeBron James. You don't like that stuff shades
21:19I don't really understand that that's just me. I think you don't understand why I don't like that well
21:24I think we want gladiators on the field to act like it 24-7 and they're not
21:29The game ends their people they respect one another they do the same thing for a living
21:33They're competing with one another and they go pray at midfield together
21:38They're glad that they're all healthy, and if someone did a good job
21:41You'll let them know like I don't like I
21:44It's not you don't need to be mad at each other for the rest of your lives because someone's on the other team doesn't really
21:50Really bother me a little bit like what's wrong with it. It's a little annoying
21:56like
21:57What if they had won?
21:59Then it's different then you can go ahead and praise him cuz you won
22:02Yeah, I won the damn game, but like then you can say hey your scheme was good
22:06I like you still beat you and what's the other guy supposed to say cuz he lost
22:10He'll say out of your jerk. No. Thanks. I like my scheme, too
22:14You made some plays you beat us. Oh, no don't say that you can't say you can't say good things to the opponent
22:19You can't say when you throw a pick and you fumble and you lose the Minnesota again
22:24And you haven't won there in more than three decades, and you say oh boy that scheme of yours
22:29Mmm. I got scheme envy. I think you can he did you could do whatever you want. He's allowed to
22:34It's not against the rules a sign of weakness or not