The Real Murders on Elm Street S01E02 And We Have Serial Killers
A house on Elm Street goes up in flames; inside, firefighters discover two bodies impaled with swords; police quickly identify the male victim, but the female victim remains a mystery.
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00:30A citizen was driving on Elm and Highway 2,
00:36where he saw smoke coming from the house.
00:42Local fire department responded in their engine.
00:46They arrived on scene.
00:49The house is fully ablaze.
00:56They kicked the door in.
00:58A firefighter entered the living room
01:04and, through the heavy smoke, crawled on the living room
01:07floor, looking for people in the house.
01:12As he got to the hallway between the bedrooms,
01:16he bumped into something.
01:19He went to throw the blanket off so he could see.
01:25It was clear from what he saw there.
01:29Something heinous had happened.
01:32He came out to me and took me aside and said,
01:36it looks really weird in there.
01:39Yeah, it was a gruesome scene.
02:29♪♪
02:38♪♪
02:44February 28th of 2008, I was the lead detective
02:50working for the Spokane County Sheriff's Department
02:52at that time.
02:54I got a call at home about 5.30 in the morning
02:58calling me out to an incident that happened on Elm Street.
03:03It was completely unusual.
03:04So I wasn't really entirely sure what to expect.
03:09This was my probably fifth month as a homicide detective.
03:12I was really new.
03:15So it was daunting.
03:18♪♪
03:25When I first got there, the house was smoking
03:27still, there was firemen coming in and out.
03:31♪♪
03:35I went in through the front door.
03:38There was just a haze through the house,
03:41which kind of gave it a little bit of a haunted house effect.
03:45♪♪
03:48Once I got in there, the whole scene,
03:50the way it was laid out, I said,
03:53yeah, I don't care who you are.
03:56It's something that you don't forget.
04:00All of the pictures had been removed from the wall
04:03and purposely placed face down on top of the couch,
04:07which led us to believe that it might be
04:08some ritualistic thing.
04:11♪♪
04:16There was blood everywhere in the hallway,
04:19bloodstains all over the wall.
04:23It was impossible to get into the hallway
04:25without stepping in some form of blood pool.
04:29Once I came around the corner,
04:32I saw the body of a male there,
04:34partially covered still with a blanket,
04:37with a big, huge sword sticking out of him.
04:40♪♪
04:44I have seen cases of knives and swords even,
04:48but I don't know that I've ever seen a broadsword like that.
04:52It was a pretty big piece of work.
04:55He was laying on top of a guitar in the hallway.
05:00♪♪
05:03He was covered in blood.
05:04The blood was all dried out from the fire.
05:08Clearly visible to me at the time
05:10was a huge incised wound to the side of the head right here
05:14and a huge incised wound right to the side of the neck.
05:17I wasn't sure the sword was the murder weapon,
05:19but it was clearly some kind of sharp implement like a knife.
05:22♪♪
05:27Just past the body of the male is an open doorway
05:31with the door standing open into a small bedroom.
05:35And literally shoved between the bed
05:38and the nightstand table is the body of a young female.
05:42She had been stabbed repeatedly many, many, many times.
05:46A minimum number of 26.
05:50She was on the floor, kind of like she was on her knees,
05:54leaning forward with her head towards the wall.
05:57♪♪
06:00And it looked like there was a samurai sword
06:03stuck completely through her neck.
06:06♪♪
06:08But it turns out it's actually just propped in there.
06:12Whoever put it there tried several times
06:15to make it stick out of her neck.
06:17It was disturbing that somebody would brutalize them so badly.
06:21But part of me thought it was just,
06:23look at me, look what I did.
06:26Look what I can do.
06:28It just seemed violent and unnecessary and excessive.
06:33It was just plain mean.
06:36And I felt really bad for her.
06:38♪♪
06:41Who might have been capable of committing such a crime?
06:44It seemed, at once, both personal in that they knew them
06:48and totally antisocial.
06:50They knew them, but they just didn't give a s**t.
06:53So...
06:55I had become fairly proficient at compartmentalizing.
06:59I don't connect myself to what happened there
07:02because I wouldn't be able to do my job.
07:03People don't call the police
07:05because they want to come and cry with them.
07:07That's not why I'm there.
07:08I've got a job to do.
07:10Number one, tried to do an identification of the bodies
07:14because we didn't know who they were.
07:16♪♪
07:27The nature of the posing, the nature of the injuries
07:30just seemed to have a bizarre feel to them.
07:32I've had training on ritualistic killings before,
07:36and some of the things that you saw in this scene
07:38were similar to what they teach us.
07:41Just actions for action's sake.
07:43No purpose behind them
07:46other than to just gratify the doer.
07:49The supervisor of the forensic unit came out and said,
07:52boy, we have gold.
07:53I said, oh, do tell.
07:55She said, there is a bloody fingerprint
07:58on the inside of the back door.
08:02I said, I want to find whose print that is.
08:04That leads me to a suspect.
08:07That is what we call a clue.
08:10We're just going to take the whole door
08:11down to the forensic unit for fingerprint processing
08:14to swab the blood samples and all of that stuff
08:17that we needed to do to process that door.
08:19We're going to do it right away.
08:21♪♪
08:24So as we finished examining the scene in the house,
08:27the homeowner showed up, Lori.
08:31She's standing out front of the house that's clearly burnt.
08:35She was clearly upset.
08:40So I ran up, and I think my daughter was there.
08:44And we ran up to the line.
08:48It was creepy. It was eerie.
08:51There was cops everywhere.
08:53One of the detectives came over and asked to talk to my mom.
08:56It was just so weird.
08:57Like, it was such a weird thing to hear.
09:00He said, did you have any weapons?
09:02Do you own any knives and swords?
09:07I go, why?
09:10He said, well, we just need to know.
09:13I go, well, yeah.
09:14My other son kind of collects them.
09:16He's got a display on his wall.
09:18And he goes, okay.
09:21And then I left.
09:22And then we're sitting there just freaking out.
09:26Why would they ask me that?
09:29My phone rang early in the morning.
09:32And I believe it was my son-in-law, Ian,
09:35and said, the house is on fire on Elm Street.
09:39You need to come now.
09:41My daughter, Katie, she goes, Mom, there's someone in there.
09:46There's a deceased person inside.
09:49And, of course, we were counting people down
09:52that we knew could be involved in this.
09:54And I said, well, I don't know.
09:56We were counting people down that we knew
09:59could have been there, but they were okay.
10:02We knew from talking to Lori that Lori lived in the house.
10:05It was her house.
10:06Her son, Tanner, lived there as well.
10:08There was a lady who lived downstairs
10:11who was the approximate age of the woman who
10:13was in the bedroom.
10:19I got a call from an unknown number, I believe.
10:22I called the police to make sure that I was alive,
10:28which was weird.
10:30I asked if someone had died.
10:34And they said there was somebody.
10:38I only knew it could be one person, my youngest son,
10:45Tanner.
10:46I'm standing, like, five feet behind my mom.
10:50And she just collapsed into a pile on the ground.
10:56And it was really hard to watch, you know?
11:01I remember just, like, embracing.
11:05And then I felt like I kind of held her up at the beginning
11:07and just, like, no, not Tanner, not Tanner.
11:13No, not Tanner, not Tanner, not Tanner.
11:23I could not make sense of it.
11:25That shift from, like, harmony and happiness to horror
11:30was such a dramatic, I couldn't register it.
11:37When they were asking us, did he have any enemies,
11:39we were like, he doesn't have an enemy.
11:43Trying to even fathom that somehow he was in that house
11:46dead, and we didn't even know who could be mad at him.
11:51Then they finally told us there was a female, too.
11:53And they eventually came out and said she has dark black hair,
11:57short hair.
12:00We had no idea who that other person was.
12:03So I'm racking my brain.
12:05It was just a lot of questions and a lot of fear.
12:12Well, I couldn't imagine who else would be in the house.
12:15Who else could it be?
12:26Spokane is located in the eastern part
12:29of the state of Washington.
12:32Spokane City is the largest metropolitan area
12:37really on this side of the state,
12:38this side of the Cascade Mountains.
12:44It's pretty, but we have our fair share of serial killers.
12:53So we've had lots of those over time.
12:58Green River killer in Seattle.
13:02The Yates here.
13:04And several others.
13:11So it's beautiful, and we have serial killers.
13:18The one thing we do often that I don't necessarily agree with
13:21is we tell people, hey, we had this murder,
13:23and there's nothing for anybody to be concerned about.
13:27Somebody was murdered.
13:29We don't know who did it.
13:30Somebody was murdered.
13:32We don't know who did it.
13:33They're walking around the community
13:34just like everybody else.
13:36Maybe they had a reason to kill this person.
13:38Maybe they didn't.
13:40Maybe they have a reason to kill you.
13:48The part of the whole experience that was the worst for me
13:52was the police officer saying nonchalantly, mind you,
13:56you're going to have people coming in here
13:58like knowing it's a murder scene, like kids,
14:00and they're going to rummage through stuff
14:01and be like, oh, cool.
14:04You better board the house up and take anything out of there
14:07that you want.
14:09And here's a card for the cleanup crew
14:12because they don't clean anything in the house.
14:15The violence that was there is untouched.
14:18It's a Halloween murder show scene in there.
14:21So we came back to the crime scene as it was getting dark.
14:25There was no power in the house.
14:32I saw it go from my mom's house to the scariest
14:41place in the whole world.
14:43I remember just like having light kind of flash
14:45over certain areas and just being like,
14:47oh, my god, what's going on?
14:49I remember standing where Tanner died,
14:51looking at the huge pile of blood that was there.
14:58And the streaks on the wall, I kept thinking to myself,
15:02this is like something from Halloween.
15:05It was dark.
15:06It was horrible.
15:07It was one of the worst experiences of my whole life.
15:09We went down into that basement, but now it was pitch black.
15:13And I was like, oh, my god, what's going on?
15:16We went down into that basement, but now it was pitch black.
15:19And I heard a sound.
15:22It was like a doink, doink, doink.
15:26And I couldn't tell what it was.
15:27And I'm looking around with my flashlight.
15:30And I go back to this little nook,
15:35and my mother's exercise ball was on the ground.
15:39And it was right below where Tanner had been murdered.
15:43His blood had saturated all the levels of the floor
15:47and were coming down.
15:48And they were dripping from the ceiling.
15:49And they were hitting that ball like candle wax.
15:56It's just surreal.
16:03And the whole house smelled burnt like a campfire.
16:07And four years after that, I couldn't camp.
16:14Because I couldn't smell that smell of a campfire
16:18for four years, you know?
16:32Tanner was our youngest child.
16:36He was just a great son.
16:39There's a lot of memories of Tanner.
16:44Road, yes.
16:45They're on the road.
16:47He's steering right now.
16:48We were coming out of my parents' driveway
16:50where I was raised out in the country.
16:51And he always wanted to get on my lap
16:54when we would drive that big Suburban.
16:56Straight ahead now.
16:57See the road?
16:58You've got to just hold it still.
16:59Go straight ahead.
17:01I said, OK, Tanner.
17:02He was only like two and a half or something.
17:03Tanner, watch the road.
17:06Yeah, watch that road.
17:07The funniest part was how the brothers and sisters
17:09were reacting in the back seat.
17:11Drive us on the bridge.
17:13Katie, especially, she was just kind of freaking out, you know?
17:16A little bit of concern there from our girl.
17:19Priceless, watching that every time.
17:36The first part of figuring out who killed somebody
17:38is figuring out who they killed.
17:41We still had no idea who the young girl was.
17:45When we searched the bedroom near the body of the female,
17:48we found a credit card with a name on it.
17:55For a lady who was roughly the same physical makeup
17:59as the girl who was deceased, I wanted to know if she
18:04was the unidentified victim.
18:08I also could tell that whoever committed both crimes
18:12had more violent tendencies to the female.
18:16The female had been stabbed way more,
18:18so I thought they would probably be more closely associated
18:21with the female than the male.
18:24So we had a name of somebody, and we
18:28started following that up.
18:29That's a lead.
18:31Lori wasn't able to give us any information
18:33on who the female might be, and she didn't know the person
18:36whose card was on the table.
18:38She'd never heard of that lady either.
18:42In the process of trying to find the lady whose name was
18:44on the card, we ended up calling some numbers
18:47and spoke to a guy who identified
18:49himself as her husband.
18:52The detective just wanted to know where she might be
18:54and how they might get a hold of her.
18:57And he was less than cooperative with any of that information.
19:01He said that he was a long-haul trucker,
19:04and he was driving across the state,
19:07and they'd been having some marital issues.
19:11He wouldn't confirm any information about her.
19:15And then he hung up on the investigators.
19:17That was weird.
19:19But later, the lady, she actually called us.
19:27She was fine.
19:29I guess she heard from her husband
19:30we were looking for her.
19:32She didn't know anybody at the house.
19:34She has no idea how her card ended up there.
19:36So we could rule her out as the detective.
19:39We were able to get a hold of her.
19:41We were able to get a hold of her.
19:43We were able to get a hold of her.
19:44We were able to get a hold of her.
19:47So we could rule her out as the decedent,
19:49and consequently, her husband out as the suspect.
19:56As to who this girl was, just from physical appearance alone,
20:02she was quite disfigured, so it's hard to say for sure.
20:05She didn't have fingerprints on file,
20:07so we couldn't identify her with fingerprints, which
20:09is generally how we do it.
20:11We needed to find out who this person was pretty quickly.
20:16It was clear from what we saw that that person
20:20was likely going to re-offend.
20:23I did have to, like, question, is this a serial killer?
20:27Is this somebody that I need to be afraid of?
20:30Is he still out?
20:31Is he going to come after me because I didn't come home
20:35or come after Lori because we were the survivors?
20:46If you have any information on this case,
20:48the sheriff's office is asking that you call the tip line.
20:51That number, of course, 242-TIPS.
20:53At the time, we were so overwhelmed with losing our son
20:59to such a horrific thing that I don't know if we could have
21:05been able to get a hold of her.
21:07I don't know if we would have been able to get a hold of her.
21:10I don't know if we would have been able to get a hold of her.
21:12I don't know if we would have been able to get a hold of her.
21:15That I don't know if we even thought about what
21:17the community was thinking.
21:20I'm sure the community in that Spokane area
21:23was really wanting to know because it
21:26must have been one of the worst murders in a long time.
21:34We received information that Tanner
21:35had an ex-girlfriend that had been making statements
21:40that she wanted to hurt him.
21:45Tanner had this girl in his life that he was really close with
21:49at that time in his life.
21:53It was very clear that she had a lot of feelings for him.
21:57I know it wasn't reciprocated because he told me himself.
22:03It would have been consistent with what
22:04we saw that if it were a crime of passion
22:07that she could have done it.
22:10We knew that they had known each other.
22:12We knew she had access to the place and she'd made threats.
22:18So it fit a lot of the different aspects of the case.
22:24If I had to pick one person, just something toxic,
22:28like if I can't have you, no one can't,
22:29you know, one of those scenarios, she fit the bill.
22:34Yes, I completely was able to see that scenario.
22:43We wanted to find Tanner Pell's ex-girlfriend and talk to her
22:47and figure out where she was and try to alibi her out
22:51or include her as a suspect.
22:53On February 26, I came home.
22:58Tanner that evening had brought a couple of his friends over
23:01and I didn't know any of them.
23:03And it was a little bit of a shock to me
23:06that he was going to be a suspect.
23:08The only thing I knew was that he was going to kill her.
23:11And I didn't know if he was going to kill her or not.
23:14I didn't know if she was going to kill her.
23:16But I knew that he would kill her.
23:18And I knew that he was going to kill her.
23:20I didn't know any of them.
23:21And it was just like Tanner to bring new people in.
23:27I think this gentleman had only been in town for a week or so.
23:30He was working at the same restaurant
23:32that Tanner was working at.
23:34Tanner introduced him as Justin.
23:40It was two nights before the murders.
23:44And he walked in and said, mom, I
23:49And he said, I'd kind of like to help make some friends.
23:56And I felt OK about it, because I couldn't imagine
23:59I'd have never met one of his friends
24:00I just didn't fall in love with that didn't
24:02end up calling me Mama Lori.
24:06And so I did give the police Justin's name very early on.
24:11And that's only because I didn't know him well enough.
24:13Because everyone else Tanner had brought around,
24:15we had seen several times.
24:19So he ended up calling us and saying, hey, I'm here.
24:22You guys want to talk to me?
24:24So they drove right up there to talk to him.
24:42Sarah was just lovely and kind.
24:44She was kind of in the background.
24:45She wasn't really a part of a lot of the discussions.
24:48Because she didn't know everybody.
24:53I also understood her relationship with Justin
24:56to be just very casually dating.
24:59I didn't have any impression that there
25:01was anything serious or anything like that happening.
25:06I was interested in finding her because I wanted
25:08to know if that was her, to see if she
25:10was the unidentified victim.
25:13Well, it could be.
25:13It might not be.
25:15But at a bare minimum, that person
25:18has some questions to answer.
25:21I thought, perhaps, if that's who that was,
25:24then maybe I can find out who that person is.
25:27And I did.
25:28I did.
25:29I did.
25:29I did.
25:30I did.
25:31I did.
25:32I did.
25:33I did.
25:33I did.
25:34If that's who that was, that the person who did the murder
25:38might be more associated with her than with Tanner.
26:05We found the car in Camelot, which is a little housing
26:08development north on the Newport Highway, a couple of miles
26:13away.
26:15And they found blood on the inside.
26:20So we were comfortable once we saw that.
26:23This is definitely who it is.
26:25It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very
26:29good looking car.
26:30It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
26:32very good looking car.
26:34And the medical examiner determined
26:37that it was Sarah Clark.
26:45If people could know just the travail that's going on
26:50in my house right now, it's just uncomprehendable.
26:56She was beautiful.
26:58She had a beautiful smile with these huge dimples.
27:03We loved her so much.
27:08It was horrible.
27:12Felt so sad for Sarah's family.
27:28Sarah's car was found in Camelot,
27:31where the Camelot Park is.
27:34Justin Crenshaw lived with his sister
27:38in that same housing development, five, six blocks
27:44away or so, I would guess.
27:47The point is to find out who has the opportunity.
27:51What does the evidence tell you?
27:53At that point, we were able to rule out Tanner
27:56Pell's ex-girlfriend because she had nothing to do with it.
28:00There was no evidence that pointed to her there,
28:05which left us with Justin Crenshaw.
28:09So I sent a couple of detectives up to talk to him.
28:14They made contact with Justin.
28:16They said, hey, we're going to look at your car.
28:18We're going to look at your car.
28:19We're going to look at your car.
28:20We're going to look at your car.
28:21They made contact with Justin.
28:23Then the detectives talked to the sister.
28:26She was concerned because he didn't
28:30seem very concerned at all about what
28:32might have happened at the house.
28:34It just seemed odd to her.
28:36And she knew he had violent tendencies.
28:38And she knew he'd been in trouble with the police before.
28:41She was concerned that he might have
28:43had something to do with it.
28:47Tanner had said, I know he's been in some kind of trouble
28:50before, but he was just a kid that looked like Tanner.
28:57You just think, he might not be a great kid.
28:59But when I went to sleep, I'll never forget it.
29:04I had a bad feeling, no doubt about it.
29:11I'm racking my brain trying to figure out,
29:14should there have been a red flag?
29:16Is there something that I missed?
29:18I definitely went back to that evening
29:20and thought about all the different conversations
29:22and all the different dynamics and things
29:26that I maybe blew off that I didn't, I should
29:28have given more thought to.
29:32Like when Justin was telling me about his gunshot wound
29:36or that he was not going to take any of his organs
29:39with him when he died, just some of those weird, weird things.
29:44Running his history, you could see that he'd
29:46been arrested in Las Vegas.
29:48He had stabbed a guy or cut a guy or something
29:51when he was younger.
29:54So we contacted Las Vegas.
29:57As it turns out, he had prints on file.
29:59And they, in fact, did fax a set of prints up to us.
30:06But they did not compare to the one we had on the back door.
30:11We knew he had a pair of black shoes.
30:13Justin's family all described that he was wearing
30:15black shoes when he left.
30:16He had a pair of black Nikes.
30:20But he said, I don't have any black Nikes.
30:24And also, while they were talking to Justin,
30:28they saw a small injury here, a cut here,
30:31a cut there, a cut there, a cut here, a cut there.
30:34And they said, I don't have any black Nikes.
30:38They saw a small injury here, a cut on the back of the finger,
30:42and a cut on the back of the palm here.
30:47Almost every brutal, violent stabbing that I've investigated,
30:52that knife becomes covered in blood.
30:54And blood is very viscous and very slippery.
30:57So it isn't unusual for them, as they
30:58stab, to start to slip off the knife and cut themselves.
31:07The problem was, his fingerprints
31:10weren't quite clear enough on the facts
31:13to make a direct comparison with.
31:18So then we thought, OK, we need to get the prints from him.
31:22So we decided that we would detain him and take him
31:27downtown, get a set of prints, do a search
31:30warrant for his DNA, his clothes, fingernail clippings,
31:35photographs, all of that stuff.
31:39And then we would have a good fingerprint
31:41to compare to the print on the inside of the door.
31:46So that's what we did.
31:49While we were waiting, he needed to go to the bathroom.
31:53And then he washed his hands like his life
31:56depended on it twice, which I don't mind a guy.
32:01I think it's appropriate to wash your hands
32:02after you go to the bathroom, but that was really serious.
32:05He was washing his hands like he was going into surgery.
32:08Once we got the processing done, it
32:10was a matter of just waiting for the results.
32:14We thought that Crenshaw was the killer,
32:17but he might not have been.
32:19And if he wasn't, that person was likely going to re-offend.
32:36We got the results back from the forensic unit supervisor,
32:39and she said that bloody fingerprint is
32:45Justin's left little finger.
32:56Yeah, there it is.
32:59That's what I'm looking for.
33:01Yeah, there it is.
33:03That's what I'm looking for.
33:09I told him, you're under arrest for the first degree murder
33:12of Tanner Appel and Sarah Clark.
33:18I found it powerful to use their names.
33:23He was the scariest guy I've ever been in a room with,
33:26and I've known lots of psychopaths.
33:29He was a matter of fact, and I had seen what he had done.
33:32So it was a relief to be able to tell him he was under arrest.
33:40The truth is, though, that when we got the fingerprint match,
33:42what we got was enough to arrest him for it.
33:47That's when the work starts.
33:53The deputy found a knife out on the road.
33:58Maybe a mile away.
34:00It was right between where the murders occurred
34:02and where he ended up in Camelot.
34:05And it had blood on it, and it was believed to actually be
34:10the murder weapon, which was pretty remarkable,
34:17which turned out to be Tanner's favorite chef knife.
34:20We also sent a couple of guys up to go through his aunt's house
34:26looking for where the black Nike shoes were, which we found.
34:33He said, I don't have any black Nikes,
34:35because it turns out they were covered in blood.
34:51That is pretty much the got to moment.
34:59Good evening.
35:00He's been in Spokane for just two weeks.
35:02But tonight, Justin Crenshaw is in jail accused of killing
35:05two people in North Spokane.
35:07Both victims had apparently been killed
35:09with a cutting instrument.
35:11Justin Crenshaw had little to no evidence
35:13of his involvement in the murder.
35:15He was arrested on the eve of the murder.
35:18Justin Crenshaw had little to no response
35:20as the judge read the graphic details of the accusations
35:23against him.
35:24The judge gave Crenshaw four chances to speak.
35:26He declined.
35:37While we don't know exactly what happened,
35:44it appears that Justin Crenshaw was alone in the bedroom
35:48with Sarah Clark.
35:51And some argument broke out in there.
35:59Justin accessed Tanner's favorite chef knife
36:05and began stabbing Sarah there.
36:08Tanner, who was most likely playing guitar,
36:12heard the commotion and came to the bedroom to assist,
36:18at which point he was attacked by Justin Crenshaw, who
36:27stabbed him several times, killing him right there.
36:33And then he went back to the bedroom.
36:38He went back to finish killing Sarah Clark
36:46and then spent lots of time in the house putting the pictures
36:49down, taking items that he found in the house,
36:53stabbing their bodies with it, doing things that made no sense
36:59except just to be brutal and just to enjoy himself simply
37:04for gratification and trying to burn the house down
37:08because he knew there was lots of evidence
37:09that pointed to him there.
37:15When I talked to him about what I had seen him do,
37:18he was as casual as talking about football.
37:21He basically cut the head off his girlfriend
37:23and killed his best friend and then
37:25stuck stuff in him for no reason other than to be cruel
37:28and didn't give a shit.
37:33He will kill you and not even care.
37:39Part of me was absolutely shocked
37:41when I learned it was him because he didn't give off
37:45killer vibes, I guess.
37:48But one of the things that the police told me very quickly
37:51is that because Justin was so violent and so evil
37:59and there just wasn't a reason for what he did that they could
38:03establish, that it was very good that I didn't go home that night
38:09because I very likely would have been killed as well.
38:28We didn't see him officially until the trial.
38:34Being in that courtroom with him and you're so close,
38:37I hated seeing him.
38:40We were smirking a lot, like often those kind of people do.
38:45And I just kept looking at his hands on the stand
38:48and I just kept thinking, those hands were here.
38:52I just couldn't stop looking at him.
38:56And I just think, man, those hands took that life away.
39:04As we were leaving one day and we had to walk down
39:07the same court hallway is Crenshaw.
39:17He darted towards me and got this close to my face
39:23and did the wink, wink to my face.
39:26He goes, like, he like, they took him to the ground
39:30Mind you, I was like five months pregnant with my son.
39:36So I couldn't do anything.
39:38The trial was awful.
39:41And I ended up running into the men's bathroom and just puking.
39:52Justin Crenshaw was convicted of first degree premeditated
39:56aggravated assault.
39:58First degree premeditated aggravated murder
40:01of Sarah Clark and Tanner Pell.
40:04And his only available sentence, since we don't really
40:07use the death penalty here in Washington anymore,
40:09is life without the possibility of parole.
40:15So he's incarcerated until he dies.
40:18A year after it happened, I moved back to my house.
40:22And nobody wanted me to, but I wanted to be close to him.
40:30I want him to be here.
40:34I want to talk to him every day.
40:39Everybody has their way of remembering.
40:40And I think, I'm going to miss him.
40:42I'm going to miss him.
40:43I'm going to miss him.
40:44I'm going to miss him.
40:45I'm going to miss him.
40:46Everybody has their way of remembering.
40:48And I think how they want him to be remembered is, and me too,
40:51is the only way he can be is beautiful.
40:59Mom, I love you so much.
41:05Have a wonderful day.
41:12They had heard rumors that there were satanic rituals being
41:15held there.
41:16There were people, and they strike at any time.
41:18Detectives found things beyond their wildest nightmare.
41:21They had located four bodies at the scene.
41:24We have no idea how these people all related.
41:27The killers didn't know they had missed somebody.