Pleasures of consciousness vs pleasures of the body || Acharya Prashant, on Shri Nisargadatta (2019)

Acharya Prashant

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00:00Subranil has quoted Nisargadatta Maharaj and he is saying something remarkable here.

00:13Throughout concepts like I am virtuous or I am a sinner.

00:20What is the entity that senses this?

00:22Body consciousness will not lose its grip on you with the thought that your well-being

00:27is the result of some spiritual activity.

00:30All you need is to keep observing yourself.

00:35Now comes the more remarkable part.

00:39Do not befriend anything that is visible to you.

00:42If you have to act at all, do only this.

00:44Please your consciousness, please your consciousness, please your consciousness.

00:51It is very merciful, it will show you all that is directly.

00:57So Subranil is asking, how is it possible to please the consciousness without getting

01:01pleased in turn?

01:03Moreover, the sense of correlation between spiritual activity like listening to talks

01:08or reading books and the sense of well-being and peace arises automatically.

01:14Why is it told to get rid of that?

01:17Kindly guide.

01:21The pleasures of consciousness, Subranil, are not the pleasures of body.

01:38The body has its pleasures and consciousness has a totally different dimension of pleasure.

01:47That which pleases the body is not that which pleases consciousness.

01:53But the two become one because our consciousness is body consciousness.

02:04Consciousness not entangled with the body seeks a destination of a totally different

02:16nature and as far as the body is concerned, it is seeking pleasures of its own kind.

02:31In some ways, the saint is also a pleasure-seeking individual.

02:42So is a greedy or lustful man.

02:47It's just that the pleasures that the two are seeking are widely separate.

02:57Please the consciousness, not the body and those who are in the business of pleasing

03:03body to them, I say, I exhort and invite, try experiencing the pleasures of consciousness.

03:15You will forget all about the pleasures of body.

03:19If pleasure is what you must have, then in Nisargadatta Maharaj's parlance, have the

03:25pleasures of consciousness.

03:30The pleasures of the body inflate the body, reinforce the body and the pleasures of consciousness

03:39dissolve the consciousness.

03:42Such a great difference.

03:45The more pleasures you give to the body, the more body identified you become.

03:53The more pleasures you give to consciousness, the more all identifications dissolve.

04:04Usually I do not use the term pleasure in context of consciousness, but here because

04:13Maharaj is using that lexicon, so I am following him.

04:28The pleasures of body are called Sukh.

04:37The pleasures of consciousness are called Ananda and the two are very different.

04:58In fact, when you are consciousness itself without its traps and identifications and

05:09when you are trying to please consciousness alone, then that can result in displeasure

05:22to the body and that is alright.

05:28Because the quality of the pleasure of consciousness is far higher than the quality of pleasure

05:34of body.

05:37So the latter can be compromised for the former.

05:52Why does the consciousness need to be pleased?

05:57Because it is lonely.

06:00It usually gets attached to the body.

06:05Now you are saying no, you will not have the body.

06:09So it has become even more lonely.

06:15You need to give it something better than the body.

06:20That is what is called pleasing consciousness.

06:24Give consciousness something better than the body to be with.

06:30This will greatly please consciousness and probably annoy the body.

06:35But that is okay.

06:38It's a good trade-off.

06:39When you are sitting here listening to me, obviously I am not giving you a body massage.

07:09But you are getting pleased, right?

07:16What is getting pleased?

07:18Not the body but the consciousness and the body is getting displeased.

07:23Look at him, 42nd times, so that's what I am saying.

07:34In giving pleasure to consciousness, even if the trade-off is that you will have to

07:38displease the body a little, it is alright.

07:49Azaaz comes to me when I am about to fall asleep, sometimes after I have fallen asleep

07:56and starts massaging.

07:59He starts massaging me, I start sermonizing.

08:02Both of us are pleasing each other.

08:04But who is getting a better deal?

08:10Azaaz.

08:11He is giving me pleasure of the body.

08:12I am giving him pleasure of consciousness and that is the reason he keeps sneaking into

08:16my room.

08:18After all of you have fallen asleep, he will come over, pick up some oil or something and

08:25start doing his thing.

08:29Usually I have fallen asleep by that time and I wake up.

08:31What is it?

08:33And find him at my feet, so I start saying something.

08:40That's a great mistake, you know, to not to know which of these is higher.

09:09It's a cardinal mistake man makes to place the pleasures of body higher than the pleasures

09:18of consciousness.

09:30Just don't make that mistake and everything will be okay.

09:36Acharya ji, does negation of what is not will always bring us to what is?

09:47It will not leave you to go to any point.

09:53You are saying, sir, if I negate what is not, will it bring me to what is?

10:01If that which is not includes you as well, if that which is not is negated, will you still be left?

10:10But that is the common expectation.

10:13After everything has been negated and cut down, I will survive and I will then reach the truth.

10:24Once you are determined to cut down everything that is not, you will have to first of all

10:30slit your own throat, firstly you are not, who will then remain to reach the truth?

10:38Therefore the truth is not a destination.

10:40Forget the truth, look at your own validity, do you exist?

10:47And if you do exist, is it doing any good to yourself?

11:12Ask the ego to do you a great favor.

11:20What?

11:25Leave.

11:34She leaves, you leave.

11:39Nothing remains, peace.

11:44Nothing remains in context of what was existent earlier.

11:51Would there be something after you have gone?

11:58Maybe, maybe not, what is certain is that this question would not be there after you have gone.

12:09The very need to be certain that even after your disappearance, things will carry on,

12:15is a mark of the ego still hanging around.

12:25It is only the ego that wants a certainty about the future.

12:28After I am gone, would there be bliss?

12:33After everything has been negated down, would there be truth?

12:38You are talking about the future.

12:42Who is concerned about the future?

12:44Exactly that entity which you are thinking of hacking down.

12:48If it has been hacked down, who will think about the future?

12:56So don't think about the future, just see whether all this that is around you and within you

13:02needs to exist, whether it is doing you any good by its existence.

13:06It's a simple thing, right?

13:10Just look at what you have and what you are and ask yourself,

13:14is it doing me any good?

13:16Full stop.

13:18Pleasures of body, we have, we know it by five way.

13:33And pleasure of consciousness lies at the feet of master, in presence of master.

13:39And there are any more more more studying scriptures.

13:44Wherever you get it, wherever you get it, what is pleasure of consciousness?

13:50Doubts receding, peace prevailing, complexities getting dissolved.

13:58All that which keeps bugging you, nagging at you, frustrating you from within, subsiding.

14:08That is pleasure of consciousness.

14:11So the pleasure of consciousness lies in not being.

14:17Pleasure of consciousness is a pleasure of disappearance.

14:21Pleasure of consciousness is similar to the pleasures of sleep.

14:29And why do you want to try out five or seven alternate ways of seeking pleasures of consciousness?

14:45You said, I know two ways of getting pleasures of consciousness.

14:50Reading scriptures and listening to the Guru.

14:52Can you tell me five other ways why these two ways you want to abandon?

14:56If you know two ways, is that not sufficient?

15:00Why do you want five other ways?

15:02But man is like this, you know.

15:06Can I have a few more options?

15:08I love him. I love him. I also love him.

15:12Let there be bounteous choice.

15:26If man gets one option, he should be thankful for that.

15:36And that should suffice for entire life.

15:38Why do you want 15?

15:40There are 150 actually.

15:50But you do not need 150.

15:55And if you chase 150, you will not have probably even a single one.

16:02Begin with what you have.

16:09Be grateful for what you already have.

16:11Stick to it.

16:13Maybe that will open the door for many others.

16:17But don't be an expectation of many others.

16:19Stick to what you have.

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