Karachi Ke masail Ke Liye Koi Sanjeeda Kyun Nahi..? Sabiq Adminstrator Karachi Ka Ahem Bayan
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00:00Karachi is a city that needs a court that can solve its problems.
00:10If we talk about Karachi, the Contentment Board looks at some areas of Karachi,
00:16the DHA is seen somewhere, then the Mayor of Karachi comes,
00:20the KMC looks at different areas, then the Town Nazmeen comes,
00:25and when the cases are not settled, then there is a series of indictments.
00:30The recent rains, there were a lot of predictions that it will rain a lot,
00:35and it will rain 200 mm, and after that God knows what will happen,
00:40but it did not rain that much, but the roads, despite less rain,
00:45were still not enough.
00:47Now in the city, you see the traffic jams every day,
00:49where there are protests on the basis of different reasons,
00:51and the biggest problem there is that the roads are not enough,
00:54and where there was water earlier, and poor construction was done,
00:58the roads have disappeared from there.
01:00Now what is the matter?
01:02We spoke to the Mayor of Karachi in the morning show,
01:06and we told him that okay, you will make the roads better,
01:09but those who did not make the roads right before,
01:12what action will be taken against them?
01:14Obviously, how should it be done against them?
01:16But now the news has come that with the cost of 2 billion rupees,
01:19the city has asked for a tender for the repair of the roads, bridges,
01:22and sewerage lines, and for the emergency work.
01:25And then it is that the work of repair is also being handed over to KMC,
01:28Mahakamha Engineering, and this is the same Mahakamha,
01:31which was also responsible for the poor construction.
01:35That is, they had damaged the roads, and now they are being handed over
01:39to do the same repair work.
01:41So we spoke to Mr. Murtaza Wahab in our morning show,
01:45a few days ago, when these rains were happening,
01:48what was his opinion on the construction of the roads at that time?
01:51First, let's see.
01:53I agree with you that the quality of the roads was not right,
01:58there was probably some issue with the sewerage,
02:01we need to address these issues.
02:03And I say this as the Mayor of the city of Karachi,
02:06that now our strategy is to start the process of rehabilitating the roads
02:11immediately after the rains.
02:13I have told the engineers that you have to make sure
02:16that there is no compromise on quality, number one.
02:19Number two, I have told them that there will be no payment of the contractor
02:23until the third-party consultant verifies that
02:26there is no compromise on quality and quantity.
02:32Okay, let's start the discussion here.
02:37We have with us Mr. Faheem Uzama,
02:39a former administrator of Karachi,
02:41and he has a close eye on the issues of Karachi.
02:43Thank you so much for joining us, sir.
02:45Please tell us, the reason for the complaint
02:48that the roads were not constructed properly,
02:51and the contract is being given again,
02:54why are the roads so poor in Karachi?
02:57This is also a part of Pakistan.
02:59This is not the case in other cities of Pakistan.
03:02It is not the case in Lahore,
03:04where there is water after the rains.
03:06It is not the case in Islamabad,
03:08where the drainage system is better,
03:10but it is so poor that the roads are not visible.
03:12Why is this?
03:14First of all, thank you for including me in the program.
03:44There is no need for a permanent consultant.
03:46Look, before a road is constructed,
03:48a road is designed.
03:50It is called a book.
03:52The tender documents say that
03:54there is a design before that.
03:56The department decides.
03:58If there is a major road,
04:00then it is done by a consultant.
04:02Once it is designed,
04:04according to that,
04:06it is tendered.
04:08In the process of tendering,
04:10it is kept safe.
04:12Contractors respond.
04:14There is a sub-base under the road.
04:16There is a base.
04:18At the end,
04:20there is a black top.
04:22In short,
04:24there is a glass of steel.
04:26There is a pipe of that type.
04:28There is a pipe of that type.
04:30There is a pipe of that type.
04:32There is a pipe of that type.
04:34There is a pipe of that type.
04:36There is a pipe of that type.
04:38There is a pipe of that type.
04:40There is a pipe of that type.
04:42At any place,
04:44the supervising engineer
04:46checks it.
04:48Along with that,
04:50the entire road
04:52comes out of it.
04:54He finds out that
04:56if there was a 3-inch sub-base,
04:58it was there.
05:00If there was a 2-inch base,
05:02it was not there.
05:04All these things are present.
05:06The mayor is very innocent.
05:08He may not know about these things.
05:10He may not know about these things.
05:12No one has educated him in these matters.
05:14Why is he so innocent?
05:16Why is he so innocent?
05:18Before he became the mayor,
05:20he was the administrator of the city.
05:22He was the administrator of the city.
05:24Why is he so ignorant?
05:26Why is he so innocent?
05:28I cannot answer that.
05:30I cannot answer that.
05:32What I mean to say is that
05:34it is not the mayor's responsibility.
05:36It is the department's responsibility.
05:38It is the department's responsibility.
05:40It is the department's responsibility.
05:42In May 1994-95,
05:44it rained heavily.
05:46Along with the park colony,
05:48there was a water line.
05:50There was a water line.
05:52Its trench was built
05:54before the rains.
05:56The entire line collapsed.
05:58From the superintendent engineer,
06:00who was in-charge of the district west,
06:02to the inspector,
06:04everyone was suspended
06:06and an inquiry was conducted against them.
06:08You tell me,
06:10roads worth billions of rupees
06:12are being built and will be built.
06:14What is the problem?
06:16If the system is such
06:18that we have to take only commissions,
06:20then,
06:22you will dig my back
06:24and I will dig your back.
06:26Then what inquiry will be conducted?
06:28Mr. Fahim, please tell me
06:30that this is the age of social media.
06:32Mainstream media also keeps an eye on these things.
06:34Obviously, the commission
06:36has been going on for a long time.
06:38But to build such bad roads
06:40so that they expose you.
06:42We are sitting in the program
06:44and talking about the condition of the roads.
06:46Obviously, fingers are pointing at them.
06:48Is there no fear of anyone?
06:50Is there such a negative material?
06:52Or is there any effect of our master plan
06:54on the city?
06:56No, no.
06:58See,
07:00I said earlier
07:02in the book,
07:04everything is present in it.
07:06When you design a road,
07:08you make a stormwater drain
07:10with it.
07:12Now you tell me,
07:14if you go to DHA,
07:16there are gratings in the middle of the road.
07:18Have you seen anywhere in the world?
07:20What I mean to say is
07:22that this is a waste of air.
07:24See, 2-3 years ago,
07:26there was a tender of 97 crore rupees
07:28for the University Road.
07:30In the first rain,
07:32it broke from 24 places.
07:34I sent a video
07:36to the minister,
07:38Mr. Radhuli Shah.
07:40And I said,
07:42I will not take a single rupee from you.
07:44You give me the responsibility
07:46of the inquiry of this road.
07:48See,
07:50this money
07:52does not belong to the government.
07:54This money does not belong to the government.
07:56This money is paid by me and you
07:58with the help of tax.
08:00And this money is his property.
08:02If he does not spend it properly,
08:04if he does not enforce the book,
08:06then this is a criminal act
08:08against him.
08:10There is already a movement
08:12in the civil society
08:14that we should approach
08:16the High Court and the Supreme Court.
08:18And we should say
08:20that the roads you make,
08:22the lines of water you put,
08:24the lines of sewage you put,
08:26what your book says,
08:28you do it with it,
08:30and if you do not do it,
08:32then what is it?
08:34And if someone has not done it,
08:36then why should there be no legal solution?
08:38This is the question.
08:40Basically, explain
08:42that the stormwater drains
08:44that we talk about,
08:46does this system exist somewhere in Karachi?
08:48Is it present?
08:50The stormwater drains
08:52absolutely existed.
08:56You have destroyed them.
09:00Apart from the stormwater drains,
09:02the sewage lines, the lines of water,
09:04in the world,
09:06the sewage line is very low,
09:08the water line is high.
09:10On one side of the road,
09:12the water line is 2.5 feet below,
09:14on the other side,
09:16the sewage line is 2.5 feet below.
09:18The sewage is contaminated
09:20with water.
09:22And they keep saying that
09:24our filter plants are not working.
09:26This is not the problem of the filter plant.
09:28So, brother,
09:30I said,
09:32this innocence.
09:34You are absolutely right.
09:36Thank you very much, Mr. Zaman.