Establishment Ke Sath Baat Cheet, Kya PTI Aaj Bhi Isi Baat Par Khari Hai?
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00:00Tell me, do you still have the same stance that if we talk, we will talk to the establishment and not to the government?
00:09No, there is no such stance. If you remember, two months ago, the Jalsa of Sangjani took place.
00:16They opened the jail at 7 in the morning and delayed it.
00:21But after that, when the Jalsa took place, the roads were closed and unprovoked shelling was done.
00:29And there were FIRs given at the Jalsa, in which our Chief Minister, me and many leaders of our party were involved.
00:36So, the unprovoked road blockage is in front of everyone.
00:40A few days after that, Mr. Bali Khan announced that these people are untrustworthy.
00:46There will be no kind of engagement from the establishment at any level.
00:52If someone is doing it, then they will disengage themselves.
00:55So, how do you explain this, that 532 people are suddenly bailed out, 30 people are released from the mainline cases,
01:04and there is a fight going on, and there are other MPAs.
01:08People are saying that there is some kind of a quid pro quo going on.
01:11Let me complete the question.
01:14And the meetings that you are having with Mr. Khan,
01:17Mr. Khan has been very cautious vis-a-vis the establishment.
01:22So, are there any trends that are different?
01:25No, sir, there are no trends that are different.
01:27People are saying that the people of 9th May have been released.
01:31There are no substantial evidences.
01:35There are no solid evidences in the 9th May cases.
01:40Look, Mr. Sheikh, there was a punishment in the case of Iddat as well.
01:47If there is a punishment in the case of Iddat, then do you know how the laws are here?
01:56I know all that, but I think you should also know the difference between Punjabi Judiciary and KP's Judiciary.
02:04This is the same judiciary where the Chief Justice travels at night in the fog
02:08because of the bail of a woman.
02:12This is the same judiciary where in the whole of Pakistan, especially in Punjab,
02:16the MNAs who have been prosecuted for corruption,
02:20their protectives, their bails are given here in Peshawar
02:24because they are not denying justice.
02:27This is not done by anyone.
02:30In Punjab, there is no understanding of the judiciary.
02:33The difference between KP's Judiciary and Punjab's Judiciary has been there for a year and a half.
02:37If someone is released here, if there is any effect of a deal in this, then it is the same.
02:43Frankly, personally, I don't even understand the deal because if the deal is left to Mr. Khan,
02:49then the whole system will be reversed.
02:51The meeting has started.
02:55Today, we kept our six political leaders sitting for three hours
02:59and kept telling them to sign that you will not talk about politics inside.
03:03Ultimately, we made them sit and returned them from there.
03:06We did not let anyone meet.
03:08You mentioned 500 people.
03:10In that case, there is nothing.
03:13One judge discharged him.
03:16The second judge put them all in jail.
03:20When he went to court again, the second judge also discharged him.
03:25There is nothing.
03:27He did this by keeping hundreds of people in jail.
03:30Today, there is a very interesting article published in Mansoor Malik's Don.
03:36You will deny everything else.
03:39People who have spoken off the record are saying that there are a lot of differences.
03:43In that, he quotes PTI's Central Punjab's Additional General Secretary Sardar Azimullah Khan.
03:49He is on record.
03:51He says that the party's leaders have become complacent.
03:58They have broken the link with Khan.
04:02Instead of collectivism, we should listen to the people on the ground.
04:09He has spoken very harshly.
04:11He says that the leaders in the main positions are just talking.
04:16The rest of the system is upside down.
04:20So, there are differences on record.
04:22There are no differences.
04:24The Additional General Secretary of Punjab, Sardar Azimullah Khan, is our friend and brother.
04:28We have a lot of respect for him.
04:29His local issues are going on.
04:31Obviously, Hamad Azhar Khan is in Ruposhi.
04:35While he is in Ruposhi, he tries to run events in Punjab.
04:40Now, there are friends here who want to get rid of the people who have made sacrifices.
04:45We are free.
04:47We cannot be replaced by them for any reason.
04:49This is not possible.
04:51In every party, there is a small crib.
04:53Is there a settlement between Gandapur and Hamad Azhar?
04:57Who, sir?
04:59Gandapur and Hamad Azhar.
05:01Gandapur and Hamad Azhar, after the news that was circulated,
05:05both categorically came to the media and on TV
05:09and denied it through their video messages.
05:11I am not denying it, Malik bhai.
05:13Both of them have done it.
05:15That is why I am asking you.
05:17Do you think the relationship is good?
05:19I am asking you.
05:21The relationship is good.
05:23The relationship between KP and Punjab cannot go bad in PTI.
05:25They are brothers and they have to help out each other.
05:27It is okay.
05:29We can stay away from each other.
05:31Tell me one thing.
05:33Every third day, Gandapur makes a big announcement.
05:35Sometimes the blood is red.
05:37The revolution is red.
05:39Sometimes the roads will be closed.
05:41They will do a bomb blast.
05:43It looks like a story.
05:45Boy crying wolf, wolf.
05:47It is not a story, sir.
05:49Did they do anything to you?
05:51Sir, listen to me.
05:53If you don't say one thing, it will be very unfair.
05:55Tell me.
05:57All the mobilisation that they carry with them,
05:59show me the face of another minister in Pakistan's history
06:01who carries so many people with him
06:03like Islamabad.
06:05They used to say that
06:07a bird cannot fly on D-Chowk.
06:09A bird cannot fly on D-Chowk.
06:11They died of shame.
06:13Not just one bird,
06:15they killed thousands of people.
06:17They were local kids.
06:19They did not reach Gandapur.
06:21They reached KP House.
06:23They could not cross the Attock bridge.
06:25Okay, last question.
06:27Tell me.
06:29Has it been decided
06:31that
06:33you will not talk to anyone
06:35and you will not talk to the establishment.
06:37If you don't talk to them,
06:39how will things change?
06:43May Allah bless us, sir.
06:45In the light of the directions
06:47of our leader,
06:49we will increase
06:51the circle of peaceful protest
06:53on the floor of the House.
06:55Mr. Gandapur has said today
06:57that nothing will be achieved in this country
06:59by staying in the circle of law.
07:01Now the matter will go ahead.
07:03First decide between yourselves.
07:05If you don't talk to them,
07:07you will be forced
07:09to stay in the circle of law.
07:11That's what he was trying to imply.
07:13So, you will not talk to the government
07:15and you will not talk to the army.
07:17Will you only talk to them on the streets?
07:21Sir, I think
07:23the protest is on the streets
07:25and the actions of the protesters
07:27have been given
07:29by the Secretary General
07:31and by the Jets.