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00:00People are saying that you have been meeting the lawyers for the past four days.
00:05Mr. Khan, you have not made a scary statement as you used to do earlier.
00:11Has the attitude of the establishment softened?
00:15After which we are seeing that Bushra Bibi and others are being bailed out.
00:19People are taunting and saying that meetings are taking place.
00:23Do you feel that the doors are still closed?
00:26Has there been a softening or improvement in the relations?
00:30Mr. Malik, I don't see it in the context of softening or improvement as you are asking.
00:35My contention was, is and will be that dialogue between the establishment and PTI is inevitable.
00:42If you want to take the country forward, then PTI and the establishment will have to sit at the same table and talk and solve the problems.
00:50This is not softening, this is not hardening, this is nothing like that.
00:53If you give preference to the state, if the state is a precedent for us and working for the state is a precedent,
00:59then the dialogue between the two cannot be done without it.
01:03The case of Bushra Bibi's bailout was a useless case.
01:10We both agree it was a weak case, but it took eight months.
01:14And maybe this impression is that it has been seen that there is no point in keeping her inside,
01:19maybe there is a benefit of taking her out.
01:21So, do you think this olive branch is a conference building measure or something on its own?
01:28There was no reason to keep Bushra Bibi inside, there was no case against her.
01:32Similarly, there is no reason to keep Mr. Khan inside.
01:35He has been sitting inside for 15 months.
01:37So, I don't see it as an olive branch at all.
01:41I think he had realized that now the courts…
01:44Because you can already feel a fresh whiff of air.
01:49I think his expectations from Yaya Afridi,
01:53as you said in your opening statement,
01:57were not met in the first two days of his takeover.
02:01So, Mansoor Shah has been brought back to the committee.
02:04Yes, Mansoor Shah has been brought back.
02:06And the full court communique that was released yesterday,
02:10it has been reported that Mansoor Shah's plan is being used.
02:13So, no one is worried.
02:15Our concern is not that this person is A, this person is B, this person is C.
02:19Our concern is that whatever the decisions are, they should be in accordance with the law.
02:24That's all.
02:25If Justice Muneeb does that…
02:26Do you think you will get relief from the courts or from the establishment?
02:31We have started getting relief from the courts.
02:34I think.
02:35And now that the Supreme Court is present, frankly, we feel that this relief will be expedited.
02:41It's very unlike that we meet Mr. Khan for four days and he doesn't give a very hard-hitting statement.
02:47He is very relaxed.
02:49This is by chance, a new strategy to keep the temperatures low.
02:55Because it's very unlike him.
02:57It's very difficult for me to penetrate Mr. Khan's mind.
03:00I haven't met him in eight or nine weeks.
03:02He has banned me.
03:04So, I hope that I can meet him this Thursday.
03:07But, Mr. Khan, whatever is in his mind, he never hesitates to say it.
03:14If the 27th amendment is passed and it is visible that work will begin,
03:19and we hear about the military courts, that the issue of the military courts will definitely come up,
03:24then what will the PTI do?
03:26We will oppose it.
03:27Our standard position is that we will oppose the military courts.
03:31After the 27th amendment, will anyone be included in those things under protest?
03:35I hope not.
03:37I can say this.
03:38I hope not.
03:39I am a black and white person.
03:41I will ask you a black and white question.
03:43Yes.
03:44Do you think that the things that you participated in under protest after the 26th amendment should have been included?
03:49The majority opinion that has been discussed is that we should be a part of it.
03:55I am asking about Rohit Hassan.
03:58If you want to talk about me, then we will talk about the program.