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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum everyone, welcome to Sports Room.
00:04I am your host, Najeeb-ul-Hasnain.
00:06Ladies and gentlemen, Pakistan is the team that has brought a lot of excitement to Test Cricket.
00:10Before the Whitewash, the chances of us going to the World Test Championship final were very low.
00:17Now the situation has become very bad.
00:20What is the situation, what is the situation, let us show you in this report.
00:24As you can see, we are unable to handle Bangladesh and we wish to reach the final of the World Test Championship.
00:31To talk about this, we have with us the former captain of Pakistan, Salman Butt.
00:35Salman, Assalam-o-Alaikum, welcome to the show.
00:37Everything has changed, everything is new.
00:40But the performance of the Pakistan team was the same a year ago.
00:44In fact, now it is getting worse.
00:46The problem of batting, the problem of bowling, the problem of pitches.
00:50There are a lot of problems.
00:52How did it come to this and how will it be fixed?
00:55You have summed up a lot of things in one question.
00:59But the preparation for this has been going on for a long time.
01:03And we are moving very fast towards the final.
01:07In the field of sports, in any field.
01:09And our drastic downfall in cricket is continuous.
01:12And there are a lot of reasons for that.
01:15From the instability of your country,
01:18changing chairmen, changing selectors, changing coaches, changing captains.
01:25After that, incompetence.
01:27After that, problems related to merit.
01:29After that, getting involved with people who do not have a speciality, who do not have a job.
01:34So this is a collection of all these things.
01:38And this did not happen suddenly.
01:40This is not a sudden incident.
01:43It's a long time coming.
01:45Okay, the captain said that it is not possible to give red balls to white ball players.
01:50So should we decide which are our red ball players and which are white ball players?
01:56And which players are the signs of pride?
02:01No, look, it depends on the player's credentials.
02:05It depends on how many players you are.
02:07All the good players in the world play across formats.
02:10So I have not heard him say this.
02:12I don't know in what context or what reference he has said this.
02:16But if only your statement is accepted,
02:20then this is not a justifiable statement.
02:24It's about performance.
02:25If you are playing well everywhere, then you can play everywhere.
02:28Otherwise, first of all, if someone is giving such advice,
02:32then everyone will get a check.
02:35And then they will have to choose which ball they played with.
02:38Okay, then we are talking about the change of the captain.
02:41Because Shaan did a very good captaincy in Australia.
02:44But here he looks very clueless in his own condition against Bangladesh.
02:48Rumors are going around that Babar will be made the captain again.
02:51I don't think this will happen.
02:53But he is already out of form.
02:55So what is the solution to the captaincy issue?
02:58What do you think?
03:00No, I think there will be more problems with this.
03:03And it will be a wake-up call.
03:04I don't think the captain should change.
03:06Okay, give him some time.
03:08If he doesn't pick up in that, then make up your own mind.
03:12You don't have any options either.
03:14You don't want to make anyone because he is not a yes-man.
03:17So the rest are not able to give the output in that way.
03:21So just like you gave Babar time,
03:23you gave some time to the captains before the first players.
03:26So give him some time too.
03:28Okay, after the T20 World Cup, the situation we were in,
03:31the chairman said there would be surgery.
03:34I don't think there was any surgery.
03:37Everything is the same.
03:39There was no major change.
03:42I think he didn't get an appointment from the doctor.
03:45The thing is, he said we don't have a pool of players.
03:49So what surgery should I do?
03:51But my opinion is a little different.
03:53Not just the players,
03:54there is a need to do a lot of surgery in administrative matters.
03:59There is a need for surgery in the pathways.
04:01There is a need for surgery in your coaches.
04:03What kind of cricket will be done in grassroots cricket?
04:06What kind of format will be played?
04:08What do's and don'ts will you have to raise the cricketers?
04:13Just like you raise a child,
04:15you complete the entire player.
04:18What will be his pathway?
04:20A lot of things are going to be decided,
04:22which has not been decided yet.
04:23And no one has any vision about it.
04:25There are a lot of cricketers who have not played at all.
04:33And those who have played,
04:35they have been working there for years.
04:37But they have no output.
04:38And today Pakistan has reached such a state
04:40that there are no players left in Pakistan.
04:42There are no replacements.
04:43The superstar player of the team,
04:45Salman, there is a lot of demand from him
04:47that he should perform and give.
04:49And Babar's form is going very badly.
04:51Where did the three or four-year-old Babar go?
04:54The one who used to set the bar for runs.
04:58See, this is a dip in form.
04:59This comes and goes.
05:00A lot of people are talking about it.
05:02And as far as the knowledge is concerned,
05:05or as far as the information is concerned,
05:08he talks according to that.
05:10But there is not a single player in the world
05:12who has not come to form.
05:15The best player in the world,
05:17if we talk about the current state,
05:20then the world's top player, Virat Kohli,
05:22who for several months
05:24was not in form according to his standard.
05:27And he has been criticized in every way in India
05:30that these are not the same reflexes.
05:33He should be thrown out.
05:34He should not be given such a format.
05:36And when he came back,
05:37he won the World Cup's top scorer,
05:39the final match of the World Cup T20 by running.
05:42And then he set the bar for many centuries.
05:44So the players keep getting form.
05:46You said yourself,
05:47Babar has been setting the bar for 4-5 years.
05:49So Babar's form is also temporary.
05:53And it's gone.
05:54There is no such thing in it.
05:55You are absolutely right.
05:56Salman, you stay with us.
05:57What does the public think
05:59about our performance,
06:00how is the team doing in terms of captaining
06:02and what should happen?
06:03Come, let's see that too.
06:04It is happening.
06:05Even after facing so much,
06:06they are showing such a great performance.
06:08And our team is taking disappointment
06:09after disappointment.
06:10In two years, we have seen defeat from Zimbabwe.
06:12We have seen defeat from Afghanistan.
06:13Bangladesh came and defeated at home.
06:15It goes that T20 played so much
06:17that they forgot to play.
06:18One day it doesn't happen.
06:19And when the test is being done,
06:20they also play.
06:21In the current position,
06:22we have been so patient with cricket.
06:24We want to wind up cricket.
06:26Mohammad Rizwan should be the team captain.
06:29Remove Babar Azam.
06:30We are making records in failures.
06:31We will give a chance to new talent.
06:32In a year and a half,
06:33the team will come out very well.
06:36If we don't play good cricket,
06:37then it will be the same as hockey.
06:39Babar Azam fails in the next 100-150 innings.
06:42As our team's situation is,
06:43it doesn't come out.
06:44We consider him a hero,
06:45so we have to respect him too.
06:46The rest who didn't come to play cricket,
06:47they should also be asked
06:48why they are not performing.
06:49After becoming a captain,
06:50changing the captain again and again
06:51insults you all over the world.
06:53Whoever you make,
06:54you should make him for a long time.
06:56We should give him a chance
06:57to cover the captaincy core
06:58for 2-3 series.
07:00It is a part of the game
07:01that the bed is put on the person.
07:04The reason for the continuous failures
07:06is that politics is seen in the team.
07:07Sometimes someone says
07:08to make Babar the captain.
07:09Someone says to take Shaheen on top.
07:11Then Shan Masood became the captain.
07:12In my opinion,
07:13give rest to big names once.
07:16Then maybe there will be some improvement.
07:18These lobbies should end.
07:19We should play for the country.
07:21Babar should get a chance.
07:22What is Babar's performance?
07:23We have made such a hero.
07:24There is nothing to think about.
07:25The captain should have a feel for it.
07:27Continuous failures have to be faced.
07:29So many people have become disheartened.
07:30After listening to the public opinion,
07:31there is more confusion.
07:32Someone says
07:33Babar should give 100-150 innings
07:34so that he does not get out of the team.
07:36Someone says it is such a big name
07:37and is not running.
07:38I believe that all the senior players
07:40should take a rest once
07:42and the team will be great in 1-1.5 years.
07:45Everyone has their own opinion.
07:46Let's take a short break.
07:48Salman Bhatt is with us.
07:49Don't go anywhere.
07:50We will be right back.
07:51Glad to have you back once again.
07:52Salman Bhatt is with us.
07:54Salman,
07:55four chairmen have changed in 2.5 years.
07:57We were talking and you were saying
07:59that the world will laugh
08:01that captains change so soon.
08:03We are already laughing
08:05that we change chairmen so soon.
08:06Four chairmen have changed in 2.5 years
08:09and many big decisions have been made.
08:10Which chairman do you think
08:12has made the biggest loss?
08:18All of them are collective.
08:21There were going to be many improvements in cricket
08:24but when the decision of six teams came
08:27they ended professional cricket
08:30and departmental cricket.
08:32When departmental cricket was over
08:34the clubs were ruined
08:35because they were paid players
08:37and they were on jobs.
08:38They used to play cricket
08:39and they used to get paid to play.
08:41When departmental cricket was over
08:42they started other jobs.
08:44There was a generation gap
08:47in the number of players.
08:50After that,
08:51you took T20 so seriously
08:54that you left everything else.
08:55And by taking T20
08:57your skillsets didn't complete.
08:59Your fitness didn't reach the top level.
09:01And you couldn't prepare the players
09:03to compete at that level
09:04which is required at the international level
09:06like game awareness
09:08and technical know-how.
09:11You couldn't develop the players
09:13because everyone's focus
09:15is on PSL and leagues.
09:16And from there,
09:17you couldn't develop the players.
09:18We also took the opinion of the fans.
09:21Salman, you must have seen
09:22that they are also saying
09:24that the team wasn't playing like a team.
09:26Unity and grouping
09:28and these things
09:29have started to be made public.
09:30My question here is
09:31that it was famous for this team
09:33that for 4-5 years
09:35even if the player is not performing
09:37he is still playing.
09:38It was called a team of friendship.
09:41And now what has happened
09:43that people are talking about grouping.
09:45How did unity end all of a sudden?
09:50See, Nucleus is a core team.
09:536-8 players are constant.
09:54The rest keep changing.
09:56The very good teams
09:57have 12-13 people constant.
09:592-3 changes keep happening.
10:01And those combinations develop.
10:03And over a period of time,
10:04they become your main players.
10:07But in our country,
10:08because every person
10:10started discussing cricket
10:12and started talking about it
10:13whose background
10:14or who doesn't even belong to sports.
10:16Forget cricket.
10:17Then such things started coming
10:19that they need to change on a daily basis.
10:21The players' nucleus
10:23is not even of Australia.
10:24Maximum,
10:25there is a nucleus of 35-40 players.
10:27India's is a little big
10:28because they have built it.
10:30So, Pakistan has not made a player.
10:33Your top players
10:34don't want to go in your first-class circuit.
10:36That's why your pool shrank.
10:38You didn't make the bench strength.
10:40You kept feeding the same players
10:41against light teams.
10:42So, you had to construct it.
10:45Why do you put it on friendship?
10:47The people who make teams,
10:48the people who select players,
10:50the management,
10:51the organization,
10:52are they not at fault?
10:54If it's all the players' fault,
10:56then how do the players
10:57develop in the central contract?
10:59How do they get out of the team?
11:01Salman, this is a very important point.
11:02We will talk about it later.
11:03For now, let's take a quick break.
11:04Stay with us.
11:07Glad to have you back once again.
11:08We had gone to a news break.
11:10Salman is with us.
11:11He was talking about
11:12the importance of grouping.
11:13Salman,
11:14it's a pity that
11:15after this shameful defeat
11:16from Bangladesh,
11:17we have come to the 8th place
11:18in the ICC test ranking.
11:20And the 76th ranking point,
11:22after 1965,
11:24is our worst performance.
11:26We have never gone so low.
11:28Is there anything worse
11:29to see in Pakistan cricket?
11:32Especially,
11:33the direction we are going,
11:35there is no break there yet.
11:38So who knows what will happen.
11:40But if we don't stop things
11:42and start correcting them,
11:44if we don't correct our grassroots
11:45and pathways,
11:46if we don't start working on merit,
11:48then the problems will keep increasing
11:51and we will get out of hand.
11:53And there is still no quick fix
11:55that you can fix it in a few days.
11:57There is no such scene yet.
11:59Okay,
12:00such a bad performance against Bangladesh
12:02and now our competition
12:04is a humongous challenge.
12:07England is coming
12:08and because of baseball,
12:09they are famous in the world.
12:11And the way they play aggressive cricket,
12:13we are afraid to even think about it.
12:15I feel that
12:16our players
12:17lack game awareness.
12:20Do you feel this?
12:24Look,
12:25now the players
12:26first come in form,
12:28then to show their game awareness,
12:30the shots that our players hit
12:32and got out,
12:33that was not required at that time,
12:37nor is there any issue of Pakistan's run rate,
12:40because all our players
12:41who come to press conferences,
12:43your captains, coaches,
12:45they come and talk about run rate.
12:47In a test match,
12:48you play for 5 days,
12:50one match lasts for 5 days,
12:52you lose the match in 3.5-4 days
12:54and you hit wrong shots
12:56at the wrong time
12:57and you hit off-time bars,
12:59you hit wrong shots.
13:00This is not how test cricket is played.
13:02You should have the habit
13:03of playing 4 sessions.
13:04If they fix their mistakes,
13:05then maybe there will be some results.
13:08Yes, you are absolutely right.
13:09They are not able to stand for 2 sessions
13:10and we are talking about run rate
13:13and strike rate.
13:14It is a very strange thing.
13:15Anyway,
13:16I get a question in my mind again and again, Salman,
13:19that since home cricket has come back,
13:21we have defeated teams like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh,
13:24South Africa on these pitches.
13:26We have won the series.
13:28Then Rameez Raja came
13:29and changed the pitches.
13:30Now he is also gone.
13:31Why can't we solve the issue of pitches?
13:35No, not on these pitches.
13:36You defeated them.
13:37You defeated them on those pitches
13:38where there was a lot of reverse,
13:40where there was a lot of spin.
13:43Then when Rameez Raja came,
13:44he made batting-friendly pitches
13:46out of fear that
13:47if we don't lose,
13:48we will draw.
13:50So when you make decisions
13:51based on fear,
13:53the result is what you are afraid of.
13:56And Pakistan lost.
13:58And there was a whitewash
13:59and Pakistan lost to Australia.
14:00Then you couldn't get success
14:01from New Zealand in the Juvenile Series.
14:04So now you have made green pitches.
14:06You have gone to a completely different direction.
14:08But now there is one more problem
14:09that no one fits in your fast bowlers.
14:12None of your fast bowlers
14:13who are a little fast,
14:14no one fits in them.
14:15And your medium passers,
14:16when the ball gets old,
14:18then there is no such thing in their ball
14:20that it proves to be a threat
14:21to the opposing team.
14:23Okay, Salman,
14:24now the last question to you is that
14:26the Champions Cup is being presented
14:28as if everything will be fine after this.
14:31And big names have been included in it,
14:33including Waqar Yunus,
14:34Misbah Ul Haq,
14:35and Saqlain Mushtaq.
14:37They have already been with the senior team.
14:42So what do you think,
14:43is this a fix
14:44that will fix the matter?
14:48See, time will tell.
14:49But in my opinion,
14:50this is a very big ask.
14:52And as you said,
14:53it has a layout and design.
14:56So let's wait a little.
14:57This tournament is starting in a few days.
15:00Its things will come to light.
15:02Okay, let's wait a little.
15:03And we will know where we are standing.
15:06We are not performing in the Red Ball.
15:08And the Champions Cup is a one-day event.
15:10Hopefully,
15:11some preparations will be made for the Champions Trophy.
15:14That's all for our program for now.
15:16Thank you very much for your time, Salman Butt.
15:18Give your host Najeeb-ul-Hasnain permission.
15:20Take care of yourself.
15:22Allah Hafiz.