Hukoomat Akhir Kya Islahat Le Kar Aa Rahi Hai? Kya Anay Walay Bil Manzoor Ho Jaien Ge? Fahd Husain
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00:00Correct.
00:01So, Fahad sahab,
00:02what is your take on this?
00:03Ultimately, it's all a number game.
00:04I can't dare to say this in front of both of you that this is my information,
00:07because your information and analysis is a billion times more than mine.
00:13But it seems that the government will definitely make an effort
00:16to increase the number of judges,
00:18to increase the age of the judges.
00:20For that, we need numbers.
00:21Is there a better chance of managing those numbers
00:25or not, Fahad sahab, in your opinion?
00:28Thank you, Wasim bhai.
00:30In my opinion, it depends on how hard the government is trying
00:42to bring about such reforms in the judiciary,
00:45and I'm saying that in quotation marks.
00:47In inverted commas, right?
00:48Yes, in inverted commas.
00:51But this is not just a government effort.
00:53This is a combined effort.
00:55Because this is a combined requirement,
00:58a combined demand.
01:00It has become a combined need.
01:02Correct.
01:03And when it has become a combined need,
01:05it has become even more intense.
01:08So, in my opinion, whatever this team effort that we see,
01:13whatever they can do,
01:15or whatever is in their control,
01:17or whatever way they can exert pressure,
01:21political pressure, or parliamentary pressure,
01:24or anything else,
01:26or government pressure,
01:28that will be exerted.
01:30And I personally won't be surprised
01:33if somehow or the other,
01:35they achieve two-thirds of the numbers.
01:38I won't be surprised.
01:41Yes.
01:42Otherwise, the other situation is that,
01:44just like PTI did an effort,
01:46that was also a combined effort,
01:48that this man, FIJ,
01:50he doesn't want to be the next Chief Justice.
01:52He jumped into it, and then failed.
01:54Then he backfired.
01:55And then later, he had issues.
01:58So, this kind of action replay can also happen with Noon League, right?
02:02If they don't succeed.
02:04Look, in my opinion,
02:05Waseem bhai, look,
02:07it depends on, actually,
02:09the first thing is to get the numbers.
02:11Yes.
02:12The second thing is what to do with those numbers.
02:15Yes.
02:16So, to get the numbers,
02:18because there is not a big gap,
02:20and from Maulana Sahib,
02:22I can hear that there are very good meetings.
02:25So, like I was saying,
02:27if they get those numbers,
02:28then I won't be surprised.
02:29Okay.
02:30The bigger issue is,
02:31with those numbers,
02:32what kind of reforms do they bring?
02:34Will they be in such a way,
02:35in which there will be a commotion about Adhliya?
02:38Or will they keep some soft issues in front,
02:42so that the snake dies,
02:43and the stick doesn't break?
02:45So, in my opinion,
02:47it will depend more on how radically
02:51they want to change the complexion
02:53of the Supreme Judiciary.
02:56Mir sahib, I don't think that
02:57if they get the numbers,
02:58then they will increase the number of judges,
03:01based on the reasons you mentioned.
03:03In fact, they will expand the retirement date,
03:06and then it will be said,
03:07when we ask,
03:08Sir, you have said it a hundred times,
03:10that you are not giving an extension to Qazi Sahib.
03:11So, the answer will be,
03:12Bhaijaan, this is not an extension.
03:13The extension is that,
03:14Bhaijaan sahib, you were retiring this way,
03:15now you won't be,
03:16now you will retire after 30 years.
03:17This is because,
03:18there is a backlog of cases,
03:19so every judge's retirement age has been increased.
03:22This applies to everyone,
03:23to the entire judiciary.
03:24So, they have not given an extension to Qazi sahib.
03:26They have brought reforms.