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"Imran Khan kay Military Courts Main Jane Kay Chances Mazeed Barh Gaye...???" Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
"Imran Khan kay Military Courts Main Jane Kay Chances Mazeed Barh Gaye...???" Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
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00:00Sir, if I'm not mistaken, you had expressed this threat a while ago, that they might want to take Mr. Khan to a military trial.
00:07Do you see this possibility more than before in today's history, or do you see this possibility as a possibility?
00:14Look, my party had filed a petition in the Islamabad High Court to pre-empt this.
00:23Yes.
00:24Although the Chief Justice of the Islamabad High Court was on leave, he came to his chamber during his leave,
00:31and you must have heard, he objected to that application and returned it.
00:37This is a pre-emption.
00:39There is a speculation going on, and this speculation is based on the statements of government officials.
00:472-3-4 ministers had given these statements, that we are thinking that Mr. Khan's case should be referred to the military courts.
00:55Not only that, but this was also said in one press conference, in fact, in two press conferences, that we are going to impose a ban on PTI.
01:04So, because of these statements, Shubhook and Shubhat were activated.
01:08So, the ban has stopped now. Do you think that this threat is now over?
01:12You are right that these statements are not coming now.
01:15In fact, some ministers of the government had said that we have no such intention.
01:20But the question you have raised about the military courts is still in the minds.
01:26And that is why we have filed this petition in the Islamabad High Court to pre-empt it.
01:32Let's see what decision is made on it, whether it is heard or not.
01:38Many of our petitions have already been read by Mr. Waseem Badami.
01:42It has been more than a year, and they are not being fixed to be heard.
01:46We hope that our petitions will be fixed immediately.
01:51And sir, it is obvious that a big progress has been made during this time.
01:54The former DG ISI of Pakistan is now in the arms of the army and is under arrest.
01:57I have read and heard today's ISPR announcement, you must have heard it too.
02:01And it is obvious that it is a matter of post-retirement that some activities are not like that.
02:05Did your party contact Faiz Hamid after his retirement?
02:10Look, when there is a government, there is a critical position of the government,
02:16DG ISI.
02:18It is obvious that there are disputes and frequent disputes.
02:22I personally had a wing of strategic communication.
02:27And there was a committee, I was a member of that committee.
02:31Prime Minister Imran Khan used to preside over that committee.
02:35And there was an army chief, DG ISI, DG ISPR.
02:40So I also contacted them from that time.
02:44And sometimes, you know, once a month, once every two months,
02:50I used to talk to them on the telephone.
02:52What you have read and heard today's announcement,
02:57This is a good thing.
02:59Look, one of the crises in Pakistan,
03:04But let's have a very frank discussion.
03:06I think it's important.
03:07It is not about accountability.
03:10And if an institution, let's say that we are talking about the Pakistan Army,
03:15If it has an unhinted kind of accountability,
03:20I being an ex-army myself, I know that it is.
03:23So this is a very good thing.
03:25And it should be.
03:27And in the same way, all other institutions in Pakistan should also be accountable.
03:33The people who are there, especially the ruling elite of Pakistan at the moment,
03:37Which considers itself beyond any kind of rule of law,
03:41They should also come under the ambit of rule of law.
03:44It should be forced.
03:45Pakistan's survival is in this.
03:47Pakistan's survival cannot be achieved beyond the limits of accountability.
03:53So this is a good thing.
03:56But technically, I would like to finish that this is an internal matter of the army.
04:01We don't want to comment on it.
04:04Okay, so sir, if it's an internal matter,
04:06Then why do they demand that you do their open trial?
04:11It's an internal matter of the army.
04:12They know how to do it.
04:14Mr. Khan gave a statement once.
04:16I think after that, they didn't say anything about it.
04:18Their statement is basically that this is an internal matter of the army.
04:21Whatever they decide,
04:23They have to make a decision according to their own rules and regulations.
04:26And it will go ahead in the same way.
04:28So regarding Mr. Faiz Ameed's trial,
04:30There is no official demand that you do an open trial.
04:33It's a different thing to come to a statement.
04:34There is no official demand.
04:35You have the opportunity.
04:36Brother, it's an internal matter of the army.
04:37Do whatever you want.
04:38You know your job.
04:39We have not made any such demand from the official platform yet.
04:42And I don't think any such demand will be made.
04:44Correct.
04:45And what you are talking about,
04:47It was also a matter of retirement from Mr. Faiz Ameed.
04:50Yes, I had a black slack with him.
04:53We used to talk.
04:54And in the context of strategic communication,
04:56We used to have a lot of conversations.
04:58There were long debates.
04:59What to do, what not to do.
05:00We all used to talk to safeguard the interests of Pakistan.
05:04So after that, it is normal to talk.
05:07Sometimes they call.
05:08I don't remember ever calling them.
05:11Maybe once or twice.
05:13But it's the same,
05:14Basic minute, half a minute, everything is fine.
05:16What's going on?
05:17How are you?
05:18And that kind of thing.
05:19We know not concerning any specific matter as such.
05:24When there was no interest in the party,
05:27This is the purpose of asking.
05:28Let me take the name.
05:29Mr. Hamid Mir.
05:30Because he spoke on air.
05:31So there is no harm in taking the name.
05:32They say that some people of Tehreek-e-Insaaf
05:35By taking the name of Mr. Faiz,
05:37What do they think of our party?
05:39They have made our lives miserable.
05:41They dictate so much to our party.
05:42What is this problem?
05:43Did you feel any intervention?
05:46No, no.
05:47I have never had such a conversation.
05:49Never.
05:50Neither frankly, to be honest about it.
05:52Nor do I have Mr. Hamid Mir's statement in my mind.
05:56That such a statement has been given.
05:58Nor has there ever been such a conversation on our telephone.
06:02That phone is still with them.
06:04Its forensics have been done.
06:05You can see for yourself.
06:06You can have an access to whatever is contained in that telephone.
06:09Correct.
06:10And you have all the reasons to believe
06:13That you personally told
06:15Your party's top officials
06:17Whose decisions matter
06:19Or Mr. Khan
06:20Before his arrest
06:21Mr. Faiz will not have so much contact
06:23That he is influencing party decisions
06:25Or you have enough reasons to believe
06:27That this will not happen at least.
06:29As far as I understand
06:32As far as I reached
06:33As far as my domain was
06:35I have never seen this happening.
06:38Right.