The 49ers Have A BIG Mountain To Climb
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00:00This rookie class overall I denied her she made good points and we've been discussing this for a long time
00:04They hit home runs in the middle of the rounds. They hit home runs in the middle of the draft
00:09That's where you build the bulk of your team. You hear a lot of GM saying hey, man
00:13It's not always about the first round pick
00:14It's about the third the fourth the fifth the sixth and maybe even the seventh
00:17But doing that he just I just forgot about him at Florida State and I had to go back and watch from the other day
00:22It's like did he even play and then you look at you look back
00:26It's like oh, yeah, he was involved in a lot of key plays a lot of key plays. We're not a green
00:30Let's he looks the part. He looks like he's gonna be it's a 7 to 10 year pro
00:33I think one thing that I'm learning now when it comes to these drafts
00:38Moving forward. There's so much player movement
00:41That these guys in college, it's just very difficult. It's very difficult. Like one guy. I'll go to Ohio State. He won't play
00:47He'll transfer to Georgia
00:48I mean we've seen it with Joe Burrow and Justin Fields and that was I think in the reverse for Justin Fields
00:53But right there's so much movement
00:55It's hard to get a feel for some of these guys like back in the day
00:58We kind of watched Patrick Willis play at Ole Miss for a couple seasons
01:01No, you remember watching Eli Manning play for multiple seasons
01:05There's just not a lot of those guys in more even the really good players are two years here two years there one year
01:10Here one year there like it's all over the place. I think it makes it much more difficult
01:14For the Scouts, I think it makes it much more difficult for you know
01:18New teams that are newly formed front offices to gain that structure that you're looking for and the Niners have been doing it for so
01:26Long there. They know what they're looking for with a with a player
01:30I think that it really benefits them rounds three through seven and but don't started off at Central, Florida
01:35So he was a transfer in Florida State
01:37They had a lot of transfers come in last season
01:39Johnny Wilson was a transfer Keon Coleman was a transfer defense lineman was a transfer a lot of transfers to come in held this
01:45Shirt, I got D. Oh boy. DJ's now playing quarterback for Florida State. I hope he could turn it around go Lele
01:51What is it? I don't know. I'd say you go Lele
01:56DJ big DJ from Clemson. I was gonna have to play gets a
02:03Boys big DJ two boys
02:05He's now starting a quarterback from Florida State. I thought he was a first yard
02:11For sure for sure bet first round pick
02:16Here we go. David. We on Galileo
02:20We on Galileo. We long delay. Can we get like some announcer saying it's like to a tongue of Iowa
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02:35Thank you cow, I'm glad you can count and got on the field
02:38I love because the first the first or the first time I ever watched this film
02:42It would they ran he was running a route that we saw from the Kansas City Chiefs to in the Super Bowl last year
02:47That's God. Look at shed a head shed a head still with something there. So
02:52Speaking to shed a head. Let's hear from shed a hand
02:55Can Cal we be a factor? So she had said about Cali yesterday. I mean, it's so early
03:00You know, you got his first full weekend. It was good to see him do some things in the game
03:03Really liked how smooth he looked as a punt returner, you know, he's still got a lot to go through. He's behind a
03:10Lot to go through he's behind
03:12Shut his heart on
03:14receivers
03:16He's behind. I mean
03:18Loaded team that lost in the overtime in the Super Bowl
03:20it's not like you have a lot of spots for guys and I
03:23Think that you're very demanding and what you're looking for if you want to be able to get run now offensive line play
03:30Rookie alignment, how's the offensive line Shanahan?
03:34The competition there has been very good, you know, just comparing it to other years in the past
03:37I think we're deeper there
03:38I think guys who have been around here who whether it's practice squads or the last guys on the roster who haven't started much
03:44I think those guys have all gone better
03:46And the more you can do that
03:47obviously the better these guys get but there's no harder position to develop than a line because
03:51You get better at a line by playing football and the line really that's been taken away from them in the offseason
03:57So I think those guys get hurt the most which is how offseason rules go training camps so much faster
04:02So they always are behind on it and college football line play is night and day different
04:07I'd say like 95% of the schools the NFL line play
04:11So it's really a tough deal for those guys
04:13but if they can hang in long enough whether it's the last guy on the roster where there's practice squad if they're made of the
04:18Right stuff just and they have the ability all those guys usually do get better, but it's very tough with their timeline
04:25There it is there it is and the offensive line
04:28He made a clean point there like 95 90% of offensive line plays completely different in college than it is in the NFL
04:34So they do have good competition like it's not no Banks is out week one having Burford back
04:39You can slide Poonie maybe the left guard next to Trent Williams cuz I'm I'm fully expected true. It's a play week one
04:45I'd be very very very disappointed. It's Trent Williams miss week one Monday night football. I
04:51Just I mean he's just got to get in and get rolling cuz like I feel like every day
04:57Every day that that this goes on longer. It's just I'm less confident. He's gonna hit the ground rolling at the start the season
05:05That's fair
05:06But moving Burford over having Burford back now you can better get the loss of banks for a couple weeks
05:13Thanks. I've done this Banks is really really good. Joe Staley was really really good
05:17The Niners have been able to navigate for a game or two without key offensive linemen under Kyle Shanahan
05:23So it's not the worst thing in the world get right as it is disappointing. We see how much time he's gonna miss here, but I
05:30Burford being back makes me feel a little better and in Poonie's playing so well
05:34You got to have big Trent there if you have big Trent in okay, let's play ball. Let's play ball
05:39All right, Feliciano speaking of Feliciano another guy who was playing right guard a platooning with Spencer Burford
05:44What's going on with him Jenny? It could linger for a while
05:47He ended up having to get some type of I don't know exactly the surgery
05:50He got but he got something done and I'll end up probably starting on IR and hope to have him back towards the middle of the
05:55year
05:56Middle of the year Felicia. All right, so let's let's get a rolling count here. No, I you can no Trent
06:03Feliciano these are guys who started for you last year Feliciano hurt green law hurt and that's for
06:09Aaron Banks hurt. That's five. All right, CMC. That's six. Well, he said he there was a game on Sunday
06:16I'm just going through who's healthy and who's not right now six. All right, who else you don't have Gibson
06:23So seven, but I think they'll be all right, but that's seven starters who Funga got hurt last year
06:28But you know, he's coming back. Okay, then, you know
06:32No, because if you put who Funga in there cuz you got her early and you're missing Armstead
06:35That's you know another guy that you've lost
06:37I mean you pierce all on the fritz. I don't know. He's a starter per se
06:42Okay, you're going to like hardcore. Yeah, I'm going like hardcore starters here like
06:47It's just a lot. That's just a lot
06:49I'm not saying you can't do it and you can't overcome it
06:51But I think when you you go back to the draft, we like up to there's no spots you
06:56You you don't have any holes and then you look up really a lot of holes. I
07:03Just I don't like I don't like the aura that's around the team right now
07:06I think that we're gonna need Brock Purdy to really, you know
07:12Wave the wand and bring some magic to the table this year
07:15I think he's gonna have to move around and and make things happen. I think this is a big year for him
07:19I think he's ready to deliver. Well, let me ask you this
07:24If
07:26The style points matter for you in the regular season when it comes in the Niners right now
07:31What do you mean by style points like they got to win big when impressively clean football
07:37Like, you know, like if we look up and they play a bunch of
07:401713 games and they have a top-ranked defense and they're hanging on but they're playing smart football
07:45They're not turning the ball over and special teams looks buttoned up and we're playing the field position game
07:49Yeah, I'll believe it that that actually is sustainable come playoff time and the offense is like for whatever reason a tick off
07:56Like I still think that the offense can get it, right?
07:58Like I want the defense to be top-notch this year
08:01Yeah, I would love for him to be top-notch
08:05Like what if they go in a Monday night football and they're coming off of this training camp and they win
08:121713
08:131716 I think that would be impressive. All right. Yeah, like to me. It doesn't matter what it looks like
08:19For example, let's say let's say this year Purdy throws 25 touchdowns and 17 or 16 interceptions
08:25but he's got a bunch of fourth-quarter comebacks right and the offense is boggled down because of injuries and
08:31Because the offensive line has him running for his life and he's got a bunch of you know
08:34Late-game heroics where he puts the team in a position to win
08:37It just does enough to win the way rusted early on in his career like to me that could be as successful
08:43If not more successful individually for Purdy
08:46Overcoming some of the shortcomings on the roster and even though the stats don't look good
08:50Like I'll feel hella good about the team and I'll feel really good about where he's at
08:55so I
08:56Think there's a variety of ways. This could still make us like feel really confident about this team
09:02It's just like we're talking about a lot of things that aren't on field
09:07I'm not on field Trent not on the do the night. Let me ask you this
09:13Let me ask you this one because a lot of fans feel like you a lot of people feel like you
09:17I'm not there yet
09:20But
09:22When I look at this team and look at what everything that's happening
09:25Do the Niners deserve the benefit of doubt in this sense that they've been to four NSC championship games the last five years
09:30They've been to a Super Bowl until a couple Super Bowls
09:33Don't you feel like we talk about faith and hope?
09:37Don't you have faith in Shana hand and Purdy and Kittle and guys like that?
09:41But I could just flip the switch and say we're fine guys. We're used to the noise
09:46Some of the Warriors even when they were going three-string
09:49There was so much noise around the Warriors during that five-game run. So it is don't know it is different
09:54But in the sense that boy, there's all this chatter
09:56There's all this chatter as you get until because those conversations were happening. It's like no, they're gonna be in the NBA finals
10:01They're gonna be in the finals. So like the Niners
10:03They've been an NSC championship game four to five years and two Super Bowls
10:08don't a
10:10deserve the benefit of the doubt to where they can block out because there's been a lot of noise years before a
10:15Lot of noise Jimmy. Yeah, Jimmy gate. You have Bosa. Yeah, Deebo. There's always been something
10:23Something with this team the Trey Lance draft-picked attorney camp what's gonna happen with Jimmy's Jimmy gonna have to look over his shoulder
10:29They've dealt with the noise pretty well under Kyle Shanahan
10:33Of course they have but they've also
10:35Played a five-year run with this core
10:37Which is pretty impressive and and you got to like turn your roster over and start counting on some different people
10:43Because the game is violent it's inherently violent and
10:47You know, I don't think they're they're not done like everybody thinks they're gonna win 10 game minimum, right?
10:53Don't we all anything less than 10 games probably is a really disappointing down year
10:58Yeah, they'll win less than 10 games anything less than 10 games
11:01So I think that the benefit of the doubt that they've earned is yeah
11:04I think your season starts with me saying you're gonna win at least 10 now
11:07What are you gonna do with those?
11:09Three or four that are up in the air four or five that are up in the air you win half of them
11:13Do you lose them all you know that that's the difference between winning your division and not
11:17What is done you if the Niners open a season three, you know?
11:22No, I mean look at the schedule I mean, I don't know what to make it the Jets
11:26Do you it's Jets Vikings Rams, right?
11:29I think they should beat the Vikings
11:31But I would rather play the Vikings at the end of the year than at the beginning of the year because they're probably more
11:35Optimistic come, you know first quarter of the season
11:39Interesting, you know the Sam Darnold experience when she get to December probably not as a see I just stainable when I think about all this
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11:51I just I I look at Shanahan and I look at kettle and I look at Balson
11:57I look at you second. I look at the veterans on this team Fred Warner being one of them
12:01And I just believe in their leadership
12:04To block out whatever is happening saying we will be ready for week one and I think a team like the 49ers
12:10That lost that Super Bowl
12:13Need a intense game in the worst way to just knock the snot out of somebody at a high level
12:19And watch the take in like the taste of losing the Super Bowl is never gonna leave your mouth
12:24No, it's always gonna yard
12:25it's gonna taste a little bit of that but they need to run into somebody different and
12:30I just think Monday Night Football
12:32the bright lights
12:34The attention that comes with that game knowing it's a New York team and all the New York media and everything like that. I
12:41Just have a lot of confidence in the leadership of this group
12:44Knowing that they've been through the wars and they've practiced through all the noise that you know what?
12:49They're gonna be okay. They're gonna be alright and sure I think for the fans
12:53Yeah, you want to see Trent you want to see I you you want to see Ricky Pierce off for crying out loud
12:58But I don't think I'm giving them the benefit of doubt
13:01that's why I'm not as down as other people are right now about the 49ers like we're still two and a half weeks away and
13:06Once that season kicks off and they win a football game. We're not even gonna be talking about it
13:10What were the Eagles 10 and 1 last year they were?
13:14Didn't they feel a little off though
13:16They're in a lot of close games
13:18They're in a lot of close games and then after the Niners beat them. They were not the same
13:22They're not the same team, right?
13:24Look back like they lost in the first round of playoffs. How would most Eagle fans describe last year?
13:29Last year was a disappointment coming off a Super Bowl loss. No doubt about it. Almost disaster
13:34But when they were 10 and 1 they were flying high
13:36Yeah, before that Niner game, there was a lot of talk about like Jalen don't look right, you know
13:40Like it's just it's it's a tick off. They were they were throwing the ball a little bit more
13:43They didn't commit to the run. It was it was a little janky, you know
13:47To your point, I think there's a lot of times where you know
13:50You could see a team have a good record and they're not
13:54The game is just so difficult. You know, what caught up to the Eagles to was
13:58Losing Shane Steichen and losing Gannon Arizona coordinators
14:01They lost their coordinators and they gave some guys the job and it was like, oh this isn't working
14:05This isn't working in their defense and AJ Brown, you know, they lost CJ Gardner Johnson last year now
14:11He's back in Philadelphia. That was a big loss for them at the safety position. So they were told so yeah
14:16It was a disappointing season for the Eagles. I just they were riding high those first 11 weeks
14:20I just look at the history of the NFL
14:21It's just really difficult to have two unbelievable seasons back-to-back and and get back to the promised land
14:28It's just hard. No one's saying you can't do it and they've earned the benefit of the doubt
14:32But it's just hard. It's really really really hard and outside of the New England Brady
14:38Patriots, there's not a lot of teams
14:40That continue to just go back year after year after year and that's why the Chiefs are being you know
14:46Basically put in the Catbird seat boy for an issue championships the last five years
14:51Well, I just have debunked a lot of history here
14:54But what if I play the other side of it? Well now their bodies are all starting to come crashing down
14:58Well, I mean a long run. Well, maybe we don't know that yet, though. No, but that's
15:03Yeah, I mean, I guess we've got a lot of cynics around here. See I don't I don't look at it
15:08Yeah, I hear you got a new coach. I I want to see what they look like, you know
15:14I look at Arizona
15:15They still fill a year away, but I'm not counting them out and then I look at LA and they have a very young team
15:21That surprised everyone last year
15:23Stafford is obviously health is the most important. He just had a hamstring injury. I know
15:30And if he's healthy though
15:33You fear the Rams so I'm looking at the division and I'm saying like I still think the division is the Niners
15:38But I'm not crossing out Seattle and I'm not crossing out the Rams. No, you shouldn't you shouldn't
15:43But I think I'm looking at it from this angle and I could you know, some people are gonna oh you're Shanahan. No, no
15:49I just got a lot of belief in Shanahan and I got a lot of belief in this system
15:54We were talking about programs earlier, right? Don't over yesterday with Tom Brady brilliant programs in this program that the Niners have built
16:01They have a very good program a very good system a very good system in place
16:07And so I'm off that belief saying I've seen them do this
16:10I've seen them fight like the Jimmy Garoppolo stuff. I think we're underrating that now
16:15He'd been on the baby field every single day with Troy Lance practicing and every little struggle. I'll bring Jimmy back
16:21What are you doing with Jimmy? What are you doing with Jimmy?
16:25They held to that noise pretty well. They made the big trade now. They started off rough
16:29They made the big trade for McCaffrey identifying a gale. We need a home run hitter or running back and boom they take off and
16:35They don't look back. I don't know
16:36I just got a lot of faith in this in this regime that they could turn things around and block out the noise and once
16:41It's time to play ball. They'll be able to play ball at a high level
16:44Yeah, I think they're gonna win ten ten games minimum like that's that I think that's baked in and I agree
16:50I disagree with Don down to 1200 whether one anything. Why do you have so much faith?
16:55They've lost in the biggest games possible
16:57They've won alike John Madden said this John Madden said this back in the 70s
17:02And they're like, oh John you can't win a big one
17:04Because what are you talking about? All these games are big. How the hell do we get to the AFC championship game by winning big games?
17:11So they've won if they haven't won the ultimate game
17:14They've won a lot of big games
17:16The thing I want to see this year is have they won and have they improved the roster enough?
17:22To stave off the rest of the NFC because the other rest of the NFC is got a lot of young players
17:28Coming into their own you got a lot of situations now that are two three years in that feel a lot
17:34More potent than than years past and you know, did the Niners lose a little step?
17:40Have they replaced some of these players that they've lost? Have they got some young guys who could take leaps forward?
17:45We'll see that's that's the beauty of the NFL it is
17:4954 and 29 in the regular season to shine a hand over the last five years
17:52They've done a lot of winning folks a lot of winnings, right?