河合郁人＆A.B.C-Z塚田×古川アナ「なんでやねん！？」（news おかえり） 2024年8月20日 大阪・玉造の神社に“ノッポなエンピツ”があるのなんでやねん！？
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00:00Made in ABC
00:30There was one, right?
00:31Yes, there was.
00:32There was a really big one.
00:34Can we have a little more discussion?
00:36There wasn't anything in there.
00:38I just looked at it.
00:40As if nothing had happened.
00:42Please.
00:43No, no, no.
00:44For the first time, the two of you.
00:46It's the first time the two of you have shot together.
00:49Oh, that's unexpected.
00:51What was the focus of this ND1 investigation?
00:54The focus was that I was allowed to be in the background once.
00:58Oh, I see.
00:59That's the focus.
01:00So you're saying you have a strong influence, right?
01:03That's right.
01:04That's right.
01:05That's the color of my hair.
01:08You shouldn't say that.
01:10That's right.
01:11So today, Oka-kun is going to pretend to be a VTR.
01:14Got it.
01:15Please.
01:16This camera.
01:17Okay, here I go.
01:18VTR, please.
01:20When you say please, it's Paon.
01:22Ah, I see.
01:23I see, I see.
01:24What is this?
01:25Is it a pigeon?
01:26It's not a pigeon.
01:27Okay, Nandeyanen has begun.
01:31This time, Oka-chan and I are going to wear this.
01:36Do you know Nandeyanen?
01:38I know Nandeyanen.
01:39Do you know it?
01:40Yes, I know it.
01:41You were already biting it.
01:42I was a little nervous in front of the camera.
01:43So today's theme is Nandeyanen, where there is a sharp pencil in a shrine in Samatsukuri, Osaka.
01:50Oh, a sharp pencil.
01:53I have a little idea.
01:56Really?
01:57I'm from Osaka.
01:58I've heard that there is a Sakura Crepus head office.
02:02Sakura Crepus?
02:03That Sakura Crepus?
02:04That's right.
02:05Oh, really?
02:06So I think there might be a clue from there.
02:08That's a good idea.
02:09It's better than Yukawa-san.
02:13I can't help but ask.
02:15As Oka-kun said, there is a Sakura Crepus head office between JR Tamatsukuri Station and Morinomi Station.
02:21The shrine with a sharp pencil is just around the corner.
02:29I think it's because he is young.
02:31Yes.
02:32Oka-chan, you walk so fast.
02:35Seriously, I would definitely get a perfect score here.
02:38I see.
02:39It's obvious.
02:40I feel good.
02:42Isn't that another shrine?
02:44This is it.
02:45Tamatsukuri Inari Shrine.
02:48Tamatsukuri Inari Shrine.
02:50It's magnificent.
02:51That's right.
02:52Wow, amazing.
02:53Oka-chan, you don't know about this shrine?
02:55No, it's my first time.
02:56It's your first time?
02:57Yes.
03:09What did you wish for?
03:10I wished that I could eat tomatoes.
03:12What did you wish for?
03:15Tomatoes?
03:16I don't like tomatoes.
03:17You don't like tomatoes?
03:18I wish I could eat tomatoes.
03:19I wish I could eat tomatoes.
03:20Oh, no.
03:21Why am I doing this?
03:22It's not even a millimeter.
03:24Oh, no.
03:25Okay, let's go.
03:26Okay, let's go.
03:27I'm getting scared.
03:28Okay, let's go.
03:30Okay, pencil.
03:32Is there a shrine?
03:33What's that in front of the pencil?
03:35Seriously.
03:37Huh?
03:38Toyotomi Hideyori.
03:39Hideyori-ko.
03:40Hideyori-ko.
03:41Wow.
03:43This is a huge statue of Hideyori-ko, the third son of Toyotomi Hideyoshi.
03:49Hideyori-ko was the successor of Taiko Hideyoshi.
03:52He fought against Tokugawa Ieyasu in Osaka.
03:56Tamatsukuri Inari Shrine is the shrine of Hideyori-ko Yukari.
04:03It's written here.
04:05It's written here.
04:06The actual size is 197 centimeters.
04:09What?
04:10It's 197 centimeters.
04:11It's not that big.
04:12It's huge.
04:13It's small.
04:17Mom.
04:18Yes.
04:19Mom, is that it?
04:21What?
04:25That long and thin one.
04:28Isn't this it?
04:29This is it.
04:30This is it.
04:31What is this?
04:32What?
04:33It's long and thin, but it looks like it.
04:36It's a long and thin pencil that was found in Keidai.
04:41It's long and thin.
04:42What is this?
04:46It's the 8th year.
04:47Winter.
04:48November.
04:49What kind of object is this?
04:52And what kind of hole is this?
04:55I don't know.
04:57It's shaped like a moon.
04:59That's right.
05:00It's night.
05:01That's right.
05:02It's night.
05:03Is this a compass?
05:05It's like a clock that shows the direction of light.
05:10It shows the time of the sun in the era when there are no clocks.
05:17Really?
05:19I didn't explain it at all.
05:21No, no, no.
05:24I want to read this, too.
05:27Isn't there an explanation for this?
05:30Do you want to try it?
05:31Do you want to look at it one by one?
05:32Yes.
05:34This is amazing, too.
05:36It's a very low bird.
05:38It's not a bird, it's buried.
05:42It's buried.
05:44It's true.
05:45It was on top of this, wasn't it?
05:46On top of this.
05:47I think so.
05:50According to the manual, this low bird was found by Toyotomi Hideyori in 1603.
05:58However, it was damaged by the Great Hanshin Awaji Earthquake.
06:02It has been preserved in this way for about 400 years.
06:12What I'm most interested in is the statue of Toyotomi Hideyori in front of me.
06:22It says, height 197 cm.
06:26I didn't expect it to emphasize such a height.
06:29You didn't want to write it there.
06:30That's right.
06:31There must be something to do with it.
06:35More than Toyotomi Hideyori?
06:37Yes.
06:38If it doesn't matter, as you said, there is a line that shows the east, west, north and south.
06:43I see.
06:46That means you didn't trust my opinion in the first place.
06:49No, that's not what I meant.
06:51Then let's listen to this.
06:53I want to hear this.
06:54I want to hear this.
06:55If this is related, I want to hear this more.
06:58That's right.
06:59That's right.
07:02Is it related to the pencil of Noppo and Toyotomi Hideyori?
07:06Speaking of the history of Osaka, let's ask Mr. Morinaomi, a history expert.
07:11Here?
07:12Here?
07:13Here?
07:14Mr. Furukawa is not here today.
07:16Oh, did you have a fight?
07:18No, we didn't have a fight.
07:21We are good friends, but he is not here.
07:23Ambitious Sake?
07:25Konbu?
07:26Or Okaka?
07:27Hello, my name is Yuri Okai.
07:28Nice to meet you.
07:30Oh, nice to meet you.
07:32Nice to meet you.
07:33Mr. Furukawa, I heard that you have a bad tongue.
07:38Really?
07:39I heard that.
07:41But it's not true at all.
07:43It's very easy to understand.
07:44Thank you very much.
07:45But she is kind.
07:46Yes, she is kind.
07:48What is the theme of today?
07:50Oh, it's totally different.
07:53In a shrine in Tamatsukuri, Osaka, there is a sharp pencil.
07:59Why is that?
08:00Tamatsukuri Inari Shrine.
08:01It's not a shrine.
08:02Yes, yes, yes.
08:04It's a historical place.
08:06Yes, it is.
08:08This sharp pencil and the statue of Toyotomi Hideyori,
08:15are they related?
08:17Are they related?
08:18No, they are not.
08:22Wow!
08:26I heard that you can tie something that catches your eye easily.
08:30Oh, it's starting.
08:31Look, it's straight.
08:33But this is not cute.
08:35Please don't do that.
08:37I have one more question.
08:39Are they related?
08:41The time and the statue are not related.
08:46No, they are not.
08:47Oh, no!
08:48Oh, no!
08:49Oh, no!
08:50Oh, no!
08:51Oh, no!
08:52Oh, no!
08:53Oh, no!
08:54Are they not related?
08:55Actually, that sharp pencil is a memorial stone for the shrine.
09:00Memorial stone?
09:01Oh, it's a memorial stone.
09:03It's not originally from a shrine,
09:06but it was brought from a different place.
09:10I see.
09:12Oh!
09:22Edo period?
09:39Where should we go?
09:40I'm getting a hint.
09:44Go to the shrine, cross the JR Kanjyo Line,
09:51and go south while exploring the road.
09:58Does that mean there's something on the way?
10:01The destination is...
10:03Oh, good.
10:04Higashi Obase Kita Park.
10:08Higashi...
10:09Do you know what it is?
10:10No, I don't.
10:11I've never been there.
10:13Please make sure to explore the way to the park.
10:18Wow, is there something there?
10:22Cross the JR Osaka Kanjyo Line,
10:26go south while exploring the road,
10:29and head for Higashi Obase Kita Park.
10:33It's a pretty deep zone.
10:36Yes, it is.
10:38Let's walk south.
10:42Wow, it looks like it was built a long time ago.
10:48We can get a hint from here.
10:51For example, the road was built,
10:55and what kind of town it was,
10:58and that could lead us to the park at the end.
11:03That's right.
11:04It's so accurate.
11:06It's all curved.
11:07It's amazing.
11:09It's an old building.
11:11It's a very old building.
11:15While exploring the curved road,
11:18we got close to the JR Tamatsukuri Station.
11:22Is there something here?
11:23Oh, Kawai.
11:25What?
11:26Don't you want to see that sign?
11:28It's in front of Tsukeme Hill.
11:30Oh, this?
11:31Yes.
11:32I'm curious.
11:33I want to see that sign.
11:36Nice, Oka-chan.
11:37Something came out.
11:38Something came out, right?
11:39I don't know.
11:40There it is.
11:41Miken Chaya.
11:42Ishibashi.
11:43Ishibashi?
11:44Ishibashi?
11:45This area is the entrance to Kyu-Nara Town on the Osaka side.
11:50On both sides of the road,
11:53there is a shop for tourists,
11:56and it was named Miken Chaya.
12:00Ishibashi was located on Nekomagawa River.
12:05Nekomagawa?
12:06Yes, and it was named Kuromon Bridge.
12:10The river used to flow here.
12:12I see.
12:13I think there were a lot of tea shops on this road.
12:19But it looks like a river.
12:24This is a good hint.
12:26Nice, Oka-chan.
12:27I'm glad.
12:28What kind of project did they do?
12:32What's this?
12:34Something came out.
12:36Miken Chaya.
12:37It came out.
12:38The 7th Route.
12:42It's from the Edo period.
12:43It's from the Edo period.
12:44In the Edo period, there was a road called Shuru-ya and Masu-ya.
12:49Chaya opened the road.
12:51It's in front of the station.
12:53It's a place for tourists to rest.
12:55It's said that Miken Chaya opened the road.
12:59I don't think it's a river.
13:01It's a road.
13:02It was a road.
13:04I think it's a project to develop the area called Miken Chaya.
13:11I see.
13:14What's this?
13:17It looks like that.
13:19That's right.
13:20It looks like that.
13:21You said Toro, right?
13:22Yes, I did.
13:23Nice.
13:24Moka-chan.
13:25Thank you for pointing out good points.
13:28Thank you very much.
13:31The project they did in the Edo period is called Miken Chaya.
13:36It's a half-building.
13:39Maybe there wasn't just one Toro.
13:42There may have been several.
13:44In some places.
13:45I think the river is the main street over there.
13:49The bridge over there is the stone bridge.
13:52The two-lane road in front of us used to be the main road.
13:59The two of us walked on that road.
14:02I see.
14:03To sum up Mr. Kawai's reasoning,
14:06that winding road is the road to Nara,
14:09and the main street in front of JR Tamatsukuri Station used to be a river.
14:14They built a half-building called Miken Chaya near the road to Nara
14:19and achieved a major project to liven up the city.
14:22As a commemoration, they built that sharp pencil.
14:28So, Mr. Kawai, you're 100% sure, right?
14:30I'm sure.
14:31Let's call Mr. Mori and ask him.
14:38In the Edo period, this area was called Miken Chaya.
14:42At that time, a major project was carried out to make Miken Chaya a place to invite many people.
14:50The sharp pencil was built in Miken Chaya as a commemoration of that major project.
14:57This is the answer we came up with.
15:00Okay, Mr. Mori.
15:02Out of 100, how many points do you give?
15:06Out of 100,
15:10zero points.
15:15You blew a senpai's wind and got zero points.
15:18I'm embarrassed.
15:21No way!
15:23It's really clean and zero points.
15:26What?
15:33What did you think of this road?
15:37The road from Osaka to Ise.
15:40It said that this area was a popular place to take a break.
15:45This road is Mr. Kawai's favorite.
15:47Really?
15:49What's that?
15:50A river?
15:51Yes, that's right.
15:52That's it!
15:54You've been to a river before.
15:56Let's go.
15:58Is this a river?
16:00I told you to come to the park.
16:06What's this?
16:07There's something written on it.
16:09There's something written on it!
16:11Please read it.
16:12Nekomagawa.
16:15That's correct.
16:16What's that?
16:17Nekomagawa?
16:18There was a river called Nekomagawa?
16:21That's right.
16:22Wasn't there a stone wall?
16:25A stone wall?
16:26There was a stone wall on the other side.
16:30Kawai was saying that it might be a stone wall.
16:36But it said that the main road was the river.
16:40It said that this was the main road.
16:44It's the opposite.
16:47We've been to Ise.
16:51Nekomagawa was a 4.5km long river that flowed from the north of Osaka Castle to Nagai Prefecture in Abeno.
16:59It was a very important river that served as the outskirts of Osaka Castle.
17:06This is a picture from the Edo period where the Tamatsukuri Inari Shrine is located.
17:11Nekomagawa is depicted along with the shrine.
17:18What was the relationship between the pencil and Nekomagawa?
17:25What did you use to carry things in the Edo period?
17:30Boats.
17:31That's correct.
17:32There was a big problem with Nekomagawa.
17:36What was it?
17:37It was located in the center of Osaka.
17:41The water depth was shallow and there wasn't much water.
17:46So only small boats could pass through.
17:49Big boats couldn't pass through.
17:51So they took the soil at the bottom of the river and started a project called Shunsetsu.
17:56It was a big project called Senryo.
18:04So that was the project.
18:07The project of digging the bottom of the river and deepening the water depth was smooth in the modern era.
18:14However, in the Edo period, it was a major project along with the National Treasure Project.
18:22When it was done, everyone celebrated.
18:25That sharp pencil was called Senryo-hi.
18:29It was called Senryo-hi.
18:31That's right.
18:33There was a big hole.
18:35Yes, there was.
18:36It was called the origin of the lighthouse so that boats could sail at night.
18:49Nekomagawa was completely destroyed in 1957.
18:55That Senryo-hi was left at the Tama-tsukuri Inari Shrine nearby so that the existence of Nekomagawa could not be forgotten.
19:08When I heard the word, river, I thought I would make it a hundred points.
19:16Really?
19:19Why didn't you stop me?
19:21I'm an experienced person.
19:25I thought you were an experienced person.
19:28I'm sorry, Kuma-chan.
19:32You found a good one.
19:34Yes.
19:35You found the hint in a great way.
19:38You found the hint in a great way.
19:46It's Senpai's fault.
19:47Nekomagawa!
19:48What?
19:49You said that.
19:50You're a Senpai who does things like that.
19:56No, no, no.
19:57If that's the case...
19:59Why did you say that?
20:01No, no, no.
20:02If that's the case, it's too late to say it.
20:07You should have said it at that time.
20:09I'm not going to follow you, but I'm going to think about the program.
20:12Furukawa-san is here, so I'm going to think about it.
20:14I have to think about it.
20:17I'll try to be more relaxed.
20:20He's here again.
20:23Let's look forward to the next episode.