PMLN leader reacts to Ali Muhammad Khan's statement regarding Nawaz, Shehbaz

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00:00First, I would like to relate to what Ali Muhammad Khan Sahib was saying to us.

00:05I asked him, there are riots going on in your party.

00:08He said, you are talking about our party, but Bade Mian Sahib is in depression.

00:13Because Chhote Bhai is in power.

00:15Is this impression really true?

00:23In the name of Allah, most Gracious, most Merciful.

00:25I would like to suggest to Ali Muhammad Sahib that you should pay attention to the current situation of your party.

00:32You can't even count how many of his groups have formed and how many of his statements have changed.

00:38Firstly, you don't get to talk to each other.

00:40Secondly, Khan Sahib changes his statements every day.

00:43Sometimes he says, neutral is an animal.

00:45The next day he says, you should be neutral.

00:47The very next day he says, appoint a representative for the army negotiations.

00:50So he takes care of his leader's negotiations every day.

00:54He takes care of his personal matters every day.

00:56So it is a big deal to take care of your own party.

00:58Secondly, there is no such issue in our party.

01:02Nawaz Sharif Sahib is our leader.

01:04Nawaz Sharif Sahib is the leader of Shehbaz Sharif.

01:06He is also the leader of Maryam Nawaz.

01:08And the Prime Minister and the Prime Minister of both governments, in Punjab and Wafaaq,

01:11are elected by Nawaz Sharif Sahib.

01:13Nawaz Sharif Sahib is the nominee.

01:15And Alhamdulillah, he is doing his work for the government.

01:18It means that the Prime Minister is Shehbaz Sharif.

01:24I am saying that the Prime Minister is Shehbaz Sharif.

01:28But whatever the matter is, the opinion of the respected leader is necessarily taken on it.

01:32Because he is a big brother and the leader of the party.

01:34Is that so?

01:36No, look, the thing is that both governments,

01:39where Nawaz Sharif Sahib thinks it is necessary,

01:41both of them also assess the performance of their governments.

01:44They also ask questions.

01:46They do not interfere in day-to-day affairs.

01:48Shehbaz Sharif Sahib is running his government.

01:50The Prime Minister and Maryam Nawaz are running their governments.

01:53But where there are issues of public relief,

01:56they also take special interest.

01:58And not only do they ask for information from their governments,

02:02but they also give them instructions to take action.

02:05And whatever possible relief they can give, they should give.

02:09And what you have just seen,

02:11the relief that was given to the Wafaaq government in the electricity bills,

02:14that from zero to two hundred units,

02:16which is 86% of the households in Pakistan,

02:18they were first stopped from adding to the bills,

02:20and the Wafaaq government reduced it by 50 million rupees.

02:22After that, the Punjab government,

02:24from two hundred to five hundred units,

02:26the beneficiaries of Punjab,

02:28for a reduction of 14 rupees in their bills,

02:30the Punjab government reduced this amount from their funds.

02:32So in such relief measures,

02:34Nawaz Sharif Sahib takes special interest

02:36and also gives instructions to his governments.

02:39But Mr. Qayani, we say that

02:41at least 400 to 500 units of relief should be given,

02:45so that, it is possible that your numbers are 86%,

02:48but the people who live in urban areas,

02:50it is next to impossible to measure in so many units,

02:53even if you can save as much as you can.

02:55On top of that, Mr. Awais Laghari's statement that

02:58if you can tolerate a load shedding of two hours,

03:00then you can save 50 billion rupees.

03:02If you can do a load shedding of 24 hours,

03:04then it is a saving.

03:06Don't you think it is insensitive?

03:08Look, Mr. Ishfaq, there are two things in this.

03:11The relief of 0 to 200 units,

03:13I have told you till now,

03:15this was done by the loyal government

03:17for the beneficiaries of the whole of Pakistan.

03:19And as far as the beneficiaries of 200 to 500 units are concerned,

03:22I have told you that the Punjab government

03:24announced a relief package for the beneficiaries of Punjab

03:27from their own funds,

03:29of 45 rupees,

03:31for two months.

03:33For two months?

03:35Yes, for August and September,

03:37they announced a measure for the beneficiaries of Punjab,

03:40which no province,

03:42no Sindh or Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

03:44or Balochistan government is stopping

03:46to take such measures.

03:48Now the last thing is,

03:50look, in addition to this,

03:52the government

03:54is currently working on

03:56how things can be reduced

03:58permanently in Narkhs,

04:00how the overall reduction

04:02can be brought in Narkhs.

04:04There are other components of electricity tariffs,

04:06which include capacity payments,

04:08fuel, financing costs,

04:10and other things.

04:12The government is also working on

04:14what can be improved in that,

04:16which will definitely include

04:18the consultation of the provinces.

04:20For that, if there can be a permanent reduction

04:22in the tariff,

04:24the government is also looking at those things,

04:26keeping in mind the realities of the IMF program.

04:28At the same time, the medium and long-term measures,

04:30in which you have improved the transmission system,

04:32there is a reform of the transmission system,

04:34there is an improvement in the theft of distribution companies,

04:36there is an outsourcing and privatization

04:38of distribution companies,

04:40so that they can go into the hands of professionals

04:42and their transmission and distribution losses

04:44can be reduced.

04:46So, all these three things are going on together.

04:48The immediate relief,

04:500 to 200 units per hour,

04:52and 200 to 500 units per hour.

04:54Basically, the problem is that

04:56there was a lot of noise

04:58that there is no capacity to produce electricity.

05:00So, there should be electricity.

05:02Then when electricity came,

05:04it was found that our transmission

05:06and dispatch system does not have the capacity

05:08to handle that much electricity.

05:10Then we said that there should be a solar system,

05:12so that people can sell electricity

05:14to the governments through net metering.

05:16Then when the solar system started selling,

05:18its cost reduced,

05:20then the government thought that

05:22if all these people do it,

05:24then who will we sell the electricity

05:26that we are making expensive?

05:28So, is there any confusion at the policy level

05:30or is there any other issue?

05:32I am not just talking about your government.

05:34I am talking about the overall issue.

05:36Hasn't it been thought through

05:38that there should be a long-term decision?

05:40Is it being thought through now

05:42or is it not being thought through?

05:44Yes, Mr. Ashfaq, the thing is that

05:46if you remember, when the Muslim League

05:48government came in 2013,

05:50there was a 20-hour load shedding.

05:52At that time, during those five years,

05:54more than 12,000 megawatts of electricity

05:56were used, which ended the load shedding.

05:58Even after that, the electricity

06:00that was used,

06:02this electricity was used

06:04keeping in mind the growth

06:06trajectory of the economy.

06:08And certainly, before 2018,

06:10other investments were required

06:12in transmission as well.

06:14A better fuel cost purchase was also required.

06:16During COVID, the PTI government

06:18got a historic opportunity

06:20to buy the cheapest LNG on a long-term contract.

06:22But they rejected that opportunity

06:24and made the furnace oil lobbies happy.

06:26If your economy was on the same

06:28growth trajectory today,

06:30your demand would have increased

06:32and the electricity consumption

06:34would have increased as well.

06:36Along with that, your transmission

06:38and distribution network would have

06:40received the investments and improvements

06:42that should have supported

06:44that generation capacity.

06:46Now, the four-year delay

06:48that has been in progress

06:50between 2018 and 2022,

06:52after that, our government

06:54is working to improve

06:56the transmission network

06:58and to increase the consumption.

07:00Along with that,

07:02the relief that can be provided

07:04immediately,

07:06whether it is from 0 to 200 units

07:08as promised by the government,

07:10or from 200 to 500 units

07:12as promised by the Punjab government

07:14and other provinces,

07:16or whether it is a permanent

07:18tariff reduction,

07:20the government is working on that.

07:22So, it would have been better

07:24if this continued during the

07:26PTI government,

07:28in terms of economic growth

07:30and investment in the electricity system.

07:32But because of that delay,

07:34we have resumed that journey.

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