Jenny Key Points of Plastic Surgery
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00:00But we want to make sure that you do it correctly, at the right age, and we're trying to get all that kind of information.
00:04So we'll see if we translate, you know, English and Spanish. Sounds good?
00:06Absolutely.
00:07Without me messing you up and stuff.
00:30And unique, why? I mean, if you took the risk to come, I can imagine why.
00:33Because, unique in terms of plastic surgery, I think so, because the people here are very packed.
00:37They like to be 100 points.
00:38That's very true.
00:39Well, since we're on the international border with the Latin people,
00:44it's an area where people come from Latin America, from Europe, and so you can see a bit of everything here.
01:00So, how long ago did you graduate? Not long ago?
01:02Two years ago, I finished school.
01:04And how much hands-on do you have to start doing surgeries two years later?
01:08Well, saying that I finished two years ago, it's not the fact that I'm not prepared.
01:12Because I've been operating for eight years.
01:14So, I did residency for six years, and I've been in my private practice for two years,
01:18so I really have eight years of practice with my hands.
01:21You're safe.
01:22He's young, he doesn't even know what he's doing.
01:24He's young, but he knows what he's doing. Eight years doing plastic surgery already.
01:27Well, and how does the practice work?
01:29I mean, you're learning, and do you use people like guinea pigs, particularly?
01:34Like, we have a student here who's going to see how it goes, right?
01:37No, the fact that studying medicine is a very long career, but we still work in teams.
01:42So, in the residency, there are really teams of senior residents and junior residents.
01:47So, really, one learns from the other, and as a team, one learns little by little what needs to be learned.
01:52So, everyone helps out?
01:53Yes, exactly.
01:55In the universities, that's right.
01:57And those surgeries are cheaper, or what?
01:59Yes, in fact, many universities in different states have discounts for cosmetic plastic surgery.
02:05It's good to know, because a lot of people don't have all the money to do plastic surgery as it should be,
02:10so you know, go to the universities.
02:12We're learning something new every day.
02:14No, and that's what matters to me, the education of the people.
02:17Because here, especially in Miami, there are a lot of people who aren't doing it well.
02:20So, you have to be careful.
02:22You have to fix a lot of people.
02:23That too, you can see that a lot.
02:24And you also hear in the news that people operate without a license.
02:27Any nonsense you find in Miami, unfortunately.
02:29Yes, unfortunately, that happens.
02:31And really, what many doctors are doing is not illegal, but it's not ethical.
02:35There are general surgeons, there are dentists who are doing plastic surgery,
02:39and they are called plastic surgeons.
02:42It's not illegal.
02:43I, as a doctor, with a medical license, I can go and practice OBGYN.
02:47I can do pediatrics, whatever I want.
02:50But that's not right.
02:52So, a lot of people do this with cosmetics, because it's a business.
03:20But in the universities, you can get a discount to get those kind of surgeries done.
03:24And it doesn't mean that it's going to come out bad.
03:25You're just giving access to students to also learn and be with pros and students.
03:29So, that's pretty good.
03:30And then he's saying that in Miami, apparently,
03:31there's a lot of people that get messed up plastic surgeries.
03:34I didn't know that.
03:35So, you're a doctor, and you can be a plastic surgeon, or you can be a pediatrician.
03:39That would never cross my mind.
03:40I thought you had to be specialized in something.
03:42Residencies are for specialties.
03:45But having a medical license gives you the ability to practice medicine.
03:48I can't make you an expert in anything.
03:49But I can go and open an office and call myself a pediatrician,
03:52and there's nothing illegal about that.
03:54That's unethical, but there's nothing illegal about it.
03:56They should make it illegal.
03:57Absolutely.
03:58But here's where the ethics of the doctor really come into play.
04:00And I think that it's important for the populace to really understand that
04:03if they're going to somebody, that they look at their credentials,
04:05that they've been adequately trained to deal with complications.
04:08Nobody does that.
04:09Unfortunately, it's tough.
04:10You want to look at the nice sign and the nice office, and you buy all that.
04:14We feed ourselves out of our eyes.
04:15Yes, that is very true.
04:16We live in an industry that is very unique, and it's tough.
04:19But I think education is really important.
04:21That's good.
04:22That's very good that you're saying that.
04:23That's beautiful.
04:24When people go to a plastic office, the first thing they see is that the man is well-dressed,
04:27that he doesn't have clothes from the dollar store, for example,
04:30even though they don't sell clothes.
04:32I mean, that everything is nice, packed.
04:34People see a well-dressed office with a waterfall.
04:36I don't know if yours is like that, but...
04:39I imagine it's very well-dressed, because I saw your view,
04:41and you have a beautiful view of Miami.
04:43They say you're doing surgeries, and they see Miami Beach directly,
04:45or downtown, right?
04:46Yes, well, no, it's Miami Beach.
04:47Miami Beach.
04:48You're in a bed, and you look back, and there's water there.
04:50How ugly it is to do surgery in Miami.
04:52Well, but it caught my attention.
04:54I didn't know that.
04:55So people can open an office and say,
04:57well, I'm a pediatrician.
04:58So the important thing is to check the credentials.
05:00How do you do that?
05:01What do you do?
05:02What should I ask you to really know that you're specialized in what you do?
05:05Well, the first thing is to know what school I went to,
05:07and what diploma I have.
05:09If I went to a plastic surgery school,
05:11a plastic surgery residency,
05:12and then if you're board certified by the American Plastic Surgery Academy,
05:17because there are different types.
05:19So you want to make sure that when you go to a plastic surgeon,
05:21like him, I'm like, what would I ask you?
05:22He's like, ask me where I went to school, and if I have my board certification.
05:25So these are things that I don't think,
05:27I've never heard of this anywhere, to be honest with you.
05:29Whoever asked for things like this.
05:31Okay, so being in Miami, we already know,
05:33so you have a lot of people,
05:35obviously the people who go to you the most are women, right?
05:37Yes, 80% of my patients are women.
05:40And what else do they do?
05:41I mean, it's something,
05:42when you get to a certain age, or you're of all ages,
05:45but I imagine there's something more popular.
05:46Three years ago, it was the breasts.
05:48It's not so fashionable anymore.
05:49No, now it's the BBL, which is the Brazilian Butt Lift.
05:52We went from the breasts to the butt, ladies, what's up?
05:54Which has been the transfer of fat to the glutes.
05:57I mean, it would be two for one, right?
05:58Because they take you from one side and put you on the other.
06:00Exactly, and that's what people like.
06:02We're on the subject of butts today.
06:04Well, in Spain I have to say the asses,
06:06because there, butt is something else.
06:07So you have to be everywhere.
06:19You have to get a little bit out of one way
06:20and put it somewhere where it's going to look good.
06:22Who thought that fat would look good somewhere in your body, right?
06:25Well, it's unfortunate that we actually gain fat where we don't want it,
06:27and we lose it where we need it, with age.
06:29You know, so it's all about repositioning.
06:31You have to reposition the fat somewhere.
06:33Well, something very important,
06:34and we talk about this a lot on Genealive,
06:36and I want to make it clear,
06:37more than anything, for young girls,
06:38at what age is it convenient to start having plastic surgeries?
06:40Because, seeing that you have ethics,
06:42and that you're very professional,
06:43but you don't only care about making money for people,
06:45but you also want the person to look good,
06:47and at the right age.
06:48We know that the human body itself
06:50ends up developing at a certain age,
06:51so what do you think?
06:52Well, I think it has a lot to do with the person's maturity.
06:55Really...
06:56Not mental, obviously.
06:57No, exactly.
06:59And really, when we're talking about a very young age,
07:0116, 17 years old,
07:03that's where it's really important to have the parents' opinion.
07:08We're in Colombia and Venezuela,
07:10with my daughter, here, I'll give you a check
07:12so you can get your breasts done.
07:14It's not bad that a 16, 17-year-old girl
07:16wants to have plastic surgery,
07:18but with the condition that...
07:19Do you really think it's not bad?
07:21Well, it all depends on maturity.
07:23Not because of the surgery, but ethically.
07:25No, yes.
07:26Well, it all depends on the type of surgery,
07:28because there's nose surgery, too.
07:30We also see 16, 17-year-olds,
07:32but at 18, you can already see breasts and stuff like that.
07:35But we'd be talking about nose surgery
07:36as something that doesn't have a cure, right?
07:38Something that's very...
07:39Yes, of course,
07:40because not everyone has a nose as pretty as you do.
07:42Mine is mine.
07:44Everyone has told me the same thing.
07:46You have a great profile, I don't know what.
07:48Yes, very good.
07:49Well, but I always agree,
07:51and it's something that I sell a lot,
07:52to say that the person has to be comfortable as they are,
07:54and then, if there comes a point
07:56where you've already done everything possible
07:57and there's nothing else to fix the little things
07:59that you don't like,
08:00and you don't feel comfortable,
08:01then stick the knife in,
08:02but you don't get obsessed with the fact, right?
08:05Of course, no.
08:06Yes, it's a very personal decision,
08:08and one that they shouldn't just take
08:10from one day to the next.
08:11It's really thinking about what they're doing.
08:13It's something serious.
08:15And does it leave a lot of trauma afterwards,
08:17or does it all depend on the post-op?
08:19Yes, a lot has to do with the whole experience,
08:21from the beginning to the end.
08:23It must be a beautiful experience.
08:25How beautiful it is to get everything out with pain!
08:27How beautiful!
08:28Maybe it's going to be beautiful for three weeks,
08:29or two weeks.
08:30How long does it last with the pain on top?
08:31Well, it all depends on the surgery.
08:32A person as a scar, right?
08:33Yes, exactly.
08:34Everyone is a little different.
08:43I think it would be a good age to start, you know,
08:45considering that it would be, you know, okay.
08:47If it's something that you would consider to do, of course.
08:49Would you consider that women's breasts are done growing at 18?
08:54By the majority, at 18, they're pretty much developed.
08:57Okay, okay.
08:58So, it all depends, he was saying in Spanish,
09:00it all depends on the maturity of the body,
09:01and I guess we're all different.
09:03And then he was saying that some girls are young from even 17,
09:05and of course, that wouldn't be appropriate for you girls,
09:07that young, to be considering plastic surgery.
09:09But if it's something like maybe a nose,
09:11something that you really just can't fix, then okay.
09:14But a nose doesn't really have to do with, you know,
09:17how your body is maturing.
09:18It's bone, you know, pretty much.
09:20Yeah, so it's, you know, we do sometimes see some younger patients
09:23that come in with their parents,
09:24but I think a lot of it has to do with the maturity of, you know,
09:26of the patient, you know, and really if there's something there to be fixed.
09:30You know, because I think it's a very personal decision,
09:32and in those young ages, I think it's important to have
09:34the opinion of the parents as well, you know.
09:36And not the crazy parents in Colombia and Venezuela,
09:38which most of them just give them a $50,000 check,
09:40and hey sweetie, 15 years old, go get your boobs done.
09:42Yeah, don't do that.
09:43Or save it till later, if anything.
10:11I love them, because they're really down-to-earth people.
10:13I don't know how to say that in Spanish.
10:15They're very helpful, they're very humble, hard-working people,
10:18and well, we like to work.
10:19Don't give yourself so many flowers, okay?
10:21No, I have to speak well of my people.
10:23Well, I also know that despite...
10:26You're selling me a good image.
10:27I have to start saying that.
10:29I don't know if it's all true.
10:30We'll see in time.
10:32But we already know that we know people
10:34as soon as we do the interview,
10:35and I think it's being pretty natural in everything.
10:37Let's say a family comes to your clinic with their daughters,
10:41and the girl is about 16 years old and wants to get her boobs done.
10:45Are you the type of surgeon who goes and tries to make money,
10:48or do you really say, look, I'll be back in two years?
10:50And be honest, okay?
10:51Honestly, I don't have a problem rejecting a patient.
10:54Because for me, I'm not a volume surgeon.
10:58I really want to invest in relationships with my patients
11:01in long-term terms.
11:03Because for me, it's the pleasure I get from surgery,
11:06the pleasure of changing the lives of my patients.
11:08And really, it's not convenient for me
11:10to try to make a lot of volume.
11:12And really, that takes away the love for the career I've chosen.
11:15So for me, it's really choosing my patients
11:18the same way they choose me.
11:19Of course, there are always people who are stubborn.
11:21Even if you tell them no, they're going to say,
11:22I don't care, I want to do it anyway.
11:23And then you have no choice.
11:24Yes, of course.
11:25It's better for you to do it in a good way than someone else.
11:27It's very true.
11:28But you also have to look at the relationship with the patient
11:31and see the reasons why they are determined to do something.
11:34Yes, because there are a lot of young people today
11:36who are...
11:37We know that in magazines, in TV,
11:39all we see are stick figures.
11:40I mean, perfect objects.
11:41And people don't understand that that's not true.
11:44I mean, in photos, you can do Photoshop.
11:46In television, there are also tricks.
11:49And yet, one thing is to be in a certain body
11:52because your job demands it.
11:53And another thing is...
11:54Well, it demands it because people want to see that too.
11:57And another thing is to be there
11:58because you want to be like those on TV.
12:00But hey, do you feel good the way you are?
12:02Have you ever done anything?
12:03Me? No, nothing.
12:04No, but I don't...
12:06If I don't like something, I'll think about it and maybe I'll do it.
12:09You have to go to a friend, right?
12:10No, yes.
12:11But I have a lot of friends without plastic hands,
12:14so I know who to go with.
12:15Very good.
12:34And I think it's good that you're still...
12:37I mean, you're only a couple of years into your career.
12:40And I think that's also why you still have the love for this
12:43as much as you do and you respect it so much.
12:45Do you think that maybe 10 years from now,
12:46you're going to think the same way that you do now?
12:48Well, it's funny.
12:49I mean, I get that question a lot.
12:50I mean, I've come from a very blessed background.
12:52I have a father in medicine as well,
12:53so I've learned to love what I do from a very young age.
12:56And I really chose this field
12:58because of the gratification I get from operating.
13:01So for me, again, it's not about being a volume surgeon.
13:04I don't want to go do hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people
13:07like a factory.
13:08I really do want to bring plastic surgery
13:11back to where it was back in the 80s.
13:13Back in the 80s, plastic surgeons used to have
13:15friendships with their patients.
13:16You would see these glamorous surgeons with celebrities
13:20where there was not this cheapened view of plastic surgery.
13:23And that's kind of my goal in my personal life
13:25and also in my career.
13:27So for me, it's really important to start that way
13:30and to continue that.
13:31Because, you know, it's going to take a long time
13:33to change this image of cheapened plastic surgery.
13:36And I think there's no better mecca than Miami to do that.
13:39Very international, that's why.
13:41How nice.
13:42I like it better every time.
13:43What's up?
13:44Well, I was telling you that, unfortunately,
13:45plastic surgery has a very cheap image nowadays.
13:48And unfortunately, we have celebrities who have become disasters.
13:51And it is said that in the 80s, apparently,
13:53I don't know because I was very young,
13:54but apparently, even celebrities and surgeons
13:57were like celebrities in the 80s.
13:58There weren't that many either.
13:59Exactly.
14:00And they had very good relationships with artistic people
14:02and they saw each other, they took pictures,
14:04and it was something of a status, so to speak.
14:07But nowadays, I think every three blocks
14:10there's a type of surgery.
14:12And before, it was only in hospitals, right?
14:15Well, no.
14:16There were also ambulatory surgeries,
14:19but it wasn't as drastic as it is now.
14:22Well, and you also have your celebrity friends.
14:24You've already told me a little bit about what you've done.
14:26You've helped more than one celebrity.
14:28We're going to respect, of course,
14:29the anonymity of each one,
14:31but what's up?
14:32How's it going?
14:33For me, those people are human.
14:35They are people like you and me,
14:37and they really have the same thoughts,
14:40the same concerns as anyone else.
14:44And it turns out that you're the one who treats them, right?
14:46I mean, you see that maybe the people who are more celebrities
14:49are a little more picky in certain things,
14:52that it has to be like this and not in another way.
14:55There's everything.
14:56Like in any person, in the people of Miami,
15:00like in Europe,
15:01because I've also had patients from Europe,
15:03everyone has their own character.
15:04And it's really about establishing that relationship with the patient
15:07to know what they're looking for,
15:08what I can offer them.
15:10Because sometimes there's no match that we're looking for.
15:15But if you don't feel good with your doctor,
15:17then you have to go to another one,
15:18because you have to be comfortable.
15:19Can you imagine going to surgery super tense?
15:21You wake up hyperactive, I don't know.
15:24And also, talking a little bit about your side,
15:26which I also know you do voluntarily,
15:28you do reconstruction for veterans, right?
15:30Yes, I spend two days a week here at the Veterans Hospital.
15:33Two days a week is a lot.
15:35Yes.
15:36Wow.
15:37And I say a lot because normally the doctors,
15:38once a month,
15:39they do it for the smiles or something.
15:41All week.
15:42And here in Miami in particular,
15:43is there a place for that?
15:44Well, yes, there is, but not today.
15:45I'm going to Fort Myers.
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17:14or once every two weeks, but he takes two days a week to go to Fort Myers to operate
17:18on veterans.
17:19So I think that's amazing to begin with, just because you can give so much back to these
17:23people that come back with differences in their bodies, and to reunite them with their
17:28families again and everything else on them, that must be so gratifying for you.
17:31And you also said that you trained certain surgeons that go back to the war, right?
17:36Yeah, so basically in Tampa General Hospital, back in Tampa where I trained, is where Central
17:40Command is located at McDill Air Force Base.
17:42So the special operation medics would come through every six weeks to train before they
17:48go off to war.
17:49So every six weeks I would have a fresh group of guys, and I would train them how to sew,
17:53how to operate, how to do things, because from there they go off to Afghanistan and
17:56Iraq, and they would be taking care of not only their teammates, but also the populace
18:01in very rural areas.
18:02So they would be the only medical provider in the middle of a theater of war, which for
18:06me was my way of giving back.
18:08I couldn't necessarily pick up and go to war when we...
18:12You're not made for that, I don't think.
18:14Well, no, it's just that because my career, it couldn't take me that way out.
18:18But it was my way of giving back.
18:19And since then I've established very, very good friendships.
18:22I have friends all over the world that are stationed all over the world, and they still
18:25send me pictures to this day, send me notes, and it's just my way of, you know, my patriotic
18:29way of giving back.
18:30Gratifying.
18:31Well, and to finish, let's continue, I know that all the women are saying,
18:34well, and what, and where are we, huh?
18:36Let's...
18:37What is the most important thing for you in a surgery?
18:39Is it the surgery itself or the post?
18:41I mean, what comes after.
18:42I think it's 50-50, that's a very interesting question.
18:46Many doctors don't explain that.
18:48You go, you want to do a surgery, and they tell you, well, yes, I'm going to do it
18:51well, like this, like that, and then they leave.
18:53And each one on their own.
18:55No, and I...
18:56That's very interesting, because I like to see my patients long after.
18:59I like to see them very recently after the surgery, and to see them continuously.
19:03Because for me, the post-op is very important.
19:06They look good, right?
19:07Exactly, exactly.
19:08Because if they don't look good the second they come out, and you see them like a little
19:10painting, and then after three months, you realize that things are starting to move
19:13from place to place, and it's not normal.
19:15Yes, and it's very important that people know how to treat themselves or what to do
19:18afterwards when there are problems with different procedures.
19:22Are there problems with the procedures?
19:24It happens to everyone.
19:25To everyone.
19:26And that's where the training of the surgeon is very important.
19:28Because at best, and at worst, complications will happen to everyone.
19:33And for you, what would be the post-treatments?
19:35Are they massages?
19:37Are they, I don't know, vitamins?
19:38Injections?
19:39What comes after?
19:40Well, no, the important thing is...
19:42That there are strips that you have to put on?
19:44Well, yes, if we're talking about liposuction, yes, the massages and the strips are very important.
19:48But it's really about understanding your body and seeing that you're not trying too hard.
19:54Because that can cause a little bleeding.
19:56It can cause swelling.
19:58A scar.
20:00Exactly.
20:01So it's about understanding your own body to know what is the right thing to do.
20:06And the subject you were talking about before, the Brazilian butt lift.
20:08How long does it take to recover?
20:10You can't sit down, I imagine, you have to be...
20:12One month, you can't sit down.
20:14You sleep face down?
20:15Face down, and then...
20:16You have to sleep on your side with two pillows, right?
20:19I don't really do that, to do those two things.
20:22I imagine you have.
20:23I imagine, yes.
20:24If you go to enough surgeons, you'll find someone who will operate on you.
20:28I think a lot of people think it's better to do everything at once and not have to suffer twice.
20:32Yes, but for me, the most important thing is the patient's health.
20:34Yes, of course.
20:35And have you ever had a bad experience?
20:37Something that didn't work out, like...
20:38No, I don't think so.
20:39No, no.
20:40If you were here...
20:41No, never, never.
20:42But yes, I've had complications, like anyone else.
20:44But I know how to handle them.
20:46So...
20:47So, just to finish up, you know, I think the question that everybody was probably wondering.
20:50If you're thinking about having a plastic surgery, you know, first, of course, if you're young,
20:53make sure that your body is mature enough.
20:54And the parents, please, know this.
20:56How do you know when your kid's body is mature enough, though?
20:58Well, I mean, I think there's a certain minimum age.
21:01I don't think we should really rush to...
21:02Minimum age, let's say, 18?
21:0418 would be the same.
21:05I thought you would say 21, you know?
21:06Well, you know, but unfortunately...
21:07Maybe 21.
21:08Okay, 21.
21:09But, I mean, we're talking about different countries where 18 really is the age of consent
21:13and the age of adulthood, you know?
21:15And most of the countries that, you know, where I come from, you know, at 18,
21:18you can go and buy a beer at the bar.
21:20And where I come from, too.
21:21I just feel like...
21:22I don't think...
21:23I don't know.
21:24For me, it's different.
21:25For me, I just feel like everybody's body just...
21:26You end up, you know...
21:27Puberty ends at 21 or something.
21:28I like to make my...
21:29There's something magical about 21.
21:30It is.
21:31It's just...
21:32I think that maybe you're closer to really making your decisions without just doing it
21:35really fast and...
21:36Well, you know, but I've met some really mature 18-year-olds and I've met some very immature
21:3921-year-olds.
21:40So I think mental maturity, I think, is more important than real, like, you know, chronological age.
21:44There's exceptions for everything.
21:45Absolutely.
21:46Absolutely.
21:47So, you know, having a hard, fast rule in anything can sometimes be a double-edged sword.
21:49Sure.
21:50We wouldn't do it.
21:51So just to finish up, so make sure that if you're having, for example, something like
21:54liposuction, that a lot of doctors don't necessarily tell you what comes after the surgery.
21:57And it's normally the most painful situation because you are...
22:00It's kind of like your body is in a full bruise, pretty much, right?
22:03Yeah, you're in an inflammatory state where your body is healing.
22:06We heal our bodies by inflammation.
22:07So inflammation is, you know, where the bruising comes in, where the swelling comes in.
22:10And that, you know, takes a toll on your body.
22:12Your skin has to, like, stick itself against your meat.
22:15I personally saw somebody go through this.
22:17That's why I'm talking about it.
22:18And I'm like, oh my God.
22:19If I knew that this was post-operatory, I would have never gotten surgery.
22:22But, you know, of course, it pays off later on.
22:24Of course, you look great.
22:25But, you know, just make sure that you know and you talk to your doctors and you ask everything
22:28that you can.
22:29This isn't just like buying a bunch of, you know, lemons at the supermarket and going
22:32home with them.
22:33This is your body and it's your health.
22:35And, you know, to meet doctors like this and to get to work with them, you know, not work
22:38with them, but, well, I guess you'll be working on the patient.
22:41So kind of, you know, make sure that they're a human being before they are some kind of
22:45marketing agency and just trying to sell you things that will later on cost you, of course.
22:48So make sure that you have a post-op and they guide you towards that post-op so you can
22:52recover.
22:53And he particularly says that he likes to see his patients months after.
22:56So they probably annoy you.
22:57They come and visit you all the time, right?
22:59Sometimes I have a hard time having them come to see me so often.
23:01I like to see my patients often.
23:02You know, within the work, you know.
23:04Absolutely.
23:05And I'm my biggest critic.
23:06So, you know, I really like to make sure that they're happy and that I'm happy.
23:08That's tough, though, because if you're your biggest critic, then you're probably like,
23:10OK, we got to do this again.
23:11Yeah.
23:12There are times I do revisions, you know, on my own dime because I am a perfectionist
23:15at heart.
23:16And, you know, but again, you know, I think that's that's where this relationship with
23:20your patients is really important.
23:21Absolutely.
23:51And if I missed anything, you guys let me know later on.
23:52All right.
23:53All right.
23:54Thank you so much.
23:55You were great, by the way.
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