"Imran Khan Nay Faiz Hameed Ka Number Block Kardiya Tha...", Ather Kazmi's Big Statement
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00:00I see a political failure in all of this.
00:04What is happening is that they are trying to create political instability.
00:08When your popular communities are in power,
00:11with the backing of the people,
00:13no political instability can be created.
00:15I think the 8th of February factor is also there.
00:18After the 8th of February election,
00:20those who came to power could not provide a political cushion.
00:23Right now, you see, from Gwadar to Malakand,
00:26whenever there is a protest,
00:28they don't even raise slogans against Shabaz Sharif.
00:31They don't raise slogans against the Prime Minister.
00:33So when political communities fail to provide a cushion,
00:36then obviously pressure is felt.
00:38Debate over various institutions goes on and on.
00:41The second thing is...
00:43But in response to that, you didn't arrest your former DG ISI,
00:46former Corps Commander, 3-Star General.
00:49It's a major development.
00:52It doesn't make sense to me.
00:57Something will definitely happen.
00:59It didn't happen all of a sudden, out of the blue.
01:02General Faiz was here before.
01:04All of this was going on.
01:05Why did you have to wait for 1.5-2 years?
01:0715 months.
01:0815 months.
01:09Why did you have to wait for 1.5 years?
01:11After that, these things came out.
01:12I think the political atmosphere...
01:14Because if you look at the press release,
01:16it mentions politics.
01:17In this press release.
01:18In this press release.
01:19It wasn't in the old one.
01:20They said that after retirement,
01:22their activities,
01:23after retirement,
01:24their activities,
01:25their activities against the Army Act,
01:26there will definitely be something in it,
01:28in which everyone says,
01:30contact with Mr. Khan,
01:31or Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
01:33So there is a big political factor in it,
01:35which at the level of the government...
01:37And this is linked to General Faiz's arrest.
01:39Yes.
01:40The first sentence says that
01:41in the case of actions against General Faiz Hameed,
01:43three retired officers are also in military custody.
01:46Yes.
01:47This is also linked to them.
01:48Yes.
01:49So the accusation that will be on General Faiz,
01:51the same accusation will be on these three.
01:53So this is not as relevant as General Faiz is relevant.
01:56Of course General Faiz is relevant.
01:58Then there is the case of Top City,
02:00the case of 2017.
02:01Even at that time,
02:02the Minister of Defence,
02:03was your cousin Mr. Asif,
02:04when that case happened.
02:05Did the Minister of Defence know about this at that time?
02:08Then the Minister of Defence comes on TV and says,
02:10that when General Faiz was serving,
02:12he was offering me the government of Punjab.
02:15Meaning,
02:16in what capacity was he offering the government of Punjab?
02:20No one questioned this.
02:21He did not do anything.
02:22Look,
02:23the internal calculation of the army is going on.
02:25But is there no constitutional responsibility of this government?
02:28That the Minister of Defence comes on TV and says,
02:30that a government officer was talking to me like this,
02:34but he is not being followed up.
02:36He is not taking any action on him.
02:38What action did you take on him?
02:39What did you do on him?
02:40So these are all the things
02:41where you see the government missing.
02:43The political side,
02:45you see it as very weak.
02:46There is no political side.
02:47Let's be honest.
02:48Tell me,
02:49did General Faiz have any contact with Imran Khan after his retirement?
02:52I don't think that General Faiz had any contact with Imran Khan at that time.
02:57But indirectly,
02:58because this is also being said,
03:00you will get a lot of news,
03:02it is coming,
03:03it is being fed,
03:04it will be done.
03:05That through these three people,
03:06he had contact with Tariq-e-Ansar.
03:08Look,
03:09if there will be investigations,
03:10then things will be found out.
03:11At one time,
03:12these news came,
03:13that from within the Jamaat,
03:14those people said that
03:15General Faiz's number was blocked by Imran Khan.
03:17Along with that,
03:18General Bajwa's number was also blocked.
03:19What about General Bajwa?
03:20And about General Faiz,
03:21about General Faiz also,
03:22that at that time,
03:23he also had some issue.
03:24And a lot of things were going on like this.
03:26But the issue is that
03:27all these news that are coming,
03:29in every news,
03:30you see,
03:31the internal matter of the army is going on.
03:34All the political parties are saying.
03:36But in every news,
03:37if you see the government's desire,
03:38they say,
03:39now it is over.
03:40Now it is over.
03:41Now the situation is that
03:42a person has been in jail for a year.
03:44His Jamaat is weak.
03:45Right now,
03:46you don't see the head or legs of that Jamaat anywhere.
03:49But despite that,
03:50they see their hope in everything.
03:53That's it.
03:54This is the last thing.
03:55So, in my opinion,
03:56this whole environment,
03:57the reason for that is political failure.
03:59And the political failure
04:00is of these two Jamaats
04:01and this government.
04:02So, this means,
04:03one,
04:04looking at the situation,
04:05it seems that
04:06the contacts were not direct.
04:07They will have to establish
04:08how it came.
04:09What were the contacts on?
04:11What advice was being given?
04:13How to make statements?
04:14As I said,
04:15if you remove 9th May from this
04:17and you don't have the evidence of 9th May,
04:20then you can't do anything against Imran Khan.
04:24Because only his army act,
04:27only the army officers have violated it.
04:29It is not necessary on Imran Khan,
04:31if I am not mistaken,
04:32that if the army officers are within him for two years,
04:36and have just retired,
04:37then don't contact them.
04:38It doesn't apply to him.
04:40It only applies to the officers.
04:42This is not a matter of contact.
04:44That's why this is very tricky.
04:46Let's talk about this after the break.
04:48If you allow me,
04:49I will take a break as well.
04:50Let's take a break.
04:51So, this is a big issue
04:52which may take some time to solve.
04:54What is it?
04:56What is the reason?
04:57What are the issues
04:58because of which all this is happening?
05:00Many people,
05:01many more names are being taken.
05:04Let's talk about that as well.
05:05Let's take a break.
05:06We will be back after the break.