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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful, I am Aneeka Nisar and this is the program Ehteraaz Hai Ke Saath.
00:15Once again, we can see politics moving towards the hot side.
00:18On the one hand, we can see Nasir raising his head once again for terrorism.
00:22On the other hand, we can see that the government is being accused in politics.
00:27We can see that the government is being accused in politics.
00:30Aleema Khan has clearly stated that the problems for Imran Khan are increasing.
00:35And the government is increasing its strictness.
00:39There are allegations of jail.
00:41They have started strictness on Imran Khan.
00:44Those who come to meet Imran Khan are not allowed to enter.
00:47You can meet six political people.
00:50They have reduced the number to three people.
00:54Out of those three people, only Umar Ayub and Shibli Faraz were allowed to go.
00:58This is how they are trying to control the situation.
01:03Ahsan Iqbal has said that it is love at first sight.
01:06It will happen in the future.
01:08He has clearly stated that he was not even allowed to meet the lawyers.
01:12So Imran Khan is allowed to meet the political people and the media.
01:17He has clearly stated that it is like a press conference.
01:23We were not allowed to meet any lawyer.
01:26The statements of the chairman are like a press conference.
01:30He has received five-star facilities.
01:33But sometimes he shouts on the stretcher.
01:35Sometimes he shouts on the wheelchair.
01:37I am out of oxygen.
01:40The grave that he had dug for others, has fallen into it today.
01:45We did not go to the US Congress and press the feet of the senators.
01:49We did not go to the House of Lords and press the feet of the senators.
01:53Your leader will not get the NRO.
01:55He will have to prove his innocence in court.
01:58He should not beg for the NRO.
02:00On one hand, there is PTI vs PMLN.
02:03But both the parties are at the mercy of Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
02:09On one hand, talks with PTI started and committees were formed.
02:13On the other hand, after President Zardari, Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif also became a guest of Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
02:19We will talk about politics later.
02:23We have with us Mr. Fawad Chaudhary.
02:25He is a former Information Minister.
02:27Thank you Mr. Fawad Chaudhary for joining me in the program.
02:29Let's start with the fact that Mr. Khan has said something about a press conference.
02:34He says that those who supported him in difficult times should not worry.
02:43But those who ran away, left the party and supported him in difficult times, they have no place.
02:50Mr. Fawad Chaudhary, tell us in which category are you?
02:53I don't think that Mr. Khan has said anything different than before.
02:58He is continuously saying that there are two categories of people.
03:02One category is of people who made a deal and left the party.
03:08For example, they became parliamentarians or IPPs and left the party.
03:14And the other category is of people who tolerated the conditions of captivity,
03:19who tolerated the torture and were forced to leave the party.
03:24He has said that there are two different categories and I will look at it case to case.
03:30He has said the same thing today.
03:32I don't think that he has said anything different than before.
03:35He is in a continuous position.
03:38Secondly, as far as I am concerned, I have already told you that
03:43the issue is not that you have to take a position of Imran Khan.
03:49I could have been a minister. I was a minister in 2011.
03:54And there is no issue of ministry or position.
03:58The problem is that you are with the people of Pakistan or not.
04:05And if you are with the people of Pakistan, then the symbol of the people of Pakistan is Imran Khan.
04:13So you have to support him.
04:15The politics of Pakistan is in the phase of next 6 months, 1 year or 2 years.
04:23So what is there to take from it?
04:26What is going to happen in the next 6 months, 1 year or 2 years?
04:29If you are calling it a phase, if this is actually a phase, then what is after this phase?
04:35But now the politics of Pakistan has changed.
04:38The politics of Pakistan has gone from kinship to individualism.
04:43And this period of politics in Pakistan has not come only in Pakistan for the first time.
04:50After the Industrial Revolution, we saw it in France, we saw it in London, we saw it in England.
04:56We saw it in other countries where the kings or the powerful clans tried to stop it, but it did not stop.
05:04So this phase has to pass. It cannot go on for a long time.
05:08After this, the next phase of politics will start.
05:11In that phase, we want history to see that we are standing on the right side of the history.
05:17We are standing on the right side of the history.
05:19We are with an idea.
05:21I understand what you are saying.
05:22But the problem is that in your matter, especially, you said that we will see case to case, Mr. Khan.
05:27Absolutely right.
05:28He took the name of Mr. Amjad Niazi today.
05:30But there is a very confusing situation in your matter because first the IPP went,
05:35and then you also saw the company of the prisoners.
05:37And unfortunately, he also saw the difficulties with your family when you were in jail.
05:42So that was also there.
05:43So you come in both categories.
05:46Did you meet Mr. Khan?
05:49Did he tell you what category you come in?
05:51Did you receive any such message from anyone else?
05:56No, no, absolutely.
05:57I have met Mr. Khan two or three times.
05:59I have also met him in jail.
06:01And I have also appeared in the case of the Election Commission with him.
06:05But look, I want to tell you again that it's not about Imran Khan.
06:10It's about the idea on which you believe.
06:13And the idea is that people of Pakistan should have the right to take sovereign decisions of Pakistan.
06:19And that's why you are standing with that idea.
06:22Otherwise, Mr. Imran Khan is the leader of the people of Pakistan at the moment.
06:26So it's not necessary that you have to give a position for support.
06:30It's not necessary that you have to become a minister again.
06:36As I am saying, I am standing with Imran Khan because of an idea.
06:40So it's not an issue that he will give a position or what he will do.
06:44Okay, so what are your conditions with the current leadership?
06:48I mean, do they want to see you back or not?
06:51Because a lot of leaders, the previous leaders who were standing with Imran Khan,
06:57they say that we don't want to see your leadership in this PTI.
07:04There are two parts of your leadership.
07:06One is the old leadership that we know, who have worked with us.
07:13Mian Aslam Iqbal, Hammad Azhar, Murad Saeed, Ali Amin Ghandapur, Asad Qaiser, Atif Khan.
07:22These are all people.
07:24We know these people, they know us.
07:27But there is a very big leadership that even Imran Khan does not know.
07:33The 70% core committee for justice, I don't think Imran Khan has met them or knows them or not.
07:46So I don't know.
07:48And most of the people, you know, don't even know their names, who they are or what their contribution is.
07:54Then there is a group that has gone abroad.
07:56They are doing their contributions from abroad.
08:02But I would say that the original cadre of PTI is not there at the moment.
08:11So we will have to see when Imran Khan comes.
08:15And the truth is that the current leadership, despite such a big support,
08:21Imran Khan is still in jail.
08:23And I would like to say with a lot of respect that the policies that are in place at the moment,
08:30and the way these policies are being run, I don't think they can get Imran Khan out in a year or a year and a half.
08:37So in other words, do you agree with what Aleema Khan said when she says that
08:42this leadership of PTI does not want to get Imran Khan out of jail?
08:48I don't think I agree with this.
08:50Because you see, whoever is standing with Imran Khan today, they are taking a lot of risk.
08:55Businesses have been destroyed.
08:57Our homes have been demolished.
08:59Businesses have been closed.
09:01Whoever is standing with Imran Khan at the moment, they are taking a lot of risk and making a lot of sacrifices.
09:07Especially those who are standing in Punjab.
09:09The situation is a little different in KP.
09:12But in Punjab, in Karachi, the situation is very serious here.
09:17And whoever is standing, I think they are very courageous people.
09:20Despite so many difficulties, they are standing with their ideas, with Imran Khan.
09:25But see, the real problem is of capacity.
09:28You don't just need enough loyalty, you also need capacity.
09:32Interesting.
09:33Now, the capacity of leadership at the moment, there are very serious questions and issues on it.
09:41You see, the movement that was to be run on the day of 9th February,
09:46the day your mandate was stolen in front of your eyes,
09:50the movement should have been run on that day.
09:52After that, when the statement was given by Liaquat Shatla…
09:57It could not be run, Mr. Fawad.
09:59It could not be run on that day.
10:00It could not be run at that time.
10:01It could not be run till now.
10:02The Jalsa was to be held on 22nd.
10:03That also got cancelled.
10:04The Jalsa on 27th in Lahore also got cancelled.
10:06Now, we are seeing the Jalsa on 8th September.
10:09Why?
10:10Because the government is not able to see it.
10:14See, the Jalsa will take place and the government…
10:18Anyway, I don't understand why the government panics so much on Jalsas.
10:23Let the Jalsas take place.
10:24What difference does it make?
10:26The real problem is that if you look at it till now,
10:31the government has created all the challenges for itself.
10:35The PTI's external organization was not able to contribute in challenging the government.
10:42For example, the fight with Judiciary was started by the government itself.
10:46And they themselves went and challenged Judiciary.
10:50In the same way, all the difficulties are created by them.
10:56PTI should have been with the judges at that time.
11:01The way the election commission is taking seats one by one from PTI,
11:07PTI is helpless.
11:08The parliamentary party only goes and is never seen.
11:15When the missing persons are picked up and made to disappear,
11:19the party never stood behind them.
11:21So, let me flip the question.
11:23Let me flip the question over here.
11:25Because you said that there is no capacity of leadership.
11:29Secondly, you said that the Jalsa will take place, but the government should not get involved.
11:33But tell me, does PTI have the capacity to hold a big Jalsa at this time?
11:38Or has it lost its capacity?
11:42Look, there is a capacity.
11:45The street power is with PTI.
11:47People are with PTI.
11:49If you go out and start asking, you will not get Imran Khan's opposition.
11:54But it is a different thing to stand on the road with Imran Khan.
11:58This is what I was about to say.
12:00But look, this is not a moral politics.
12:04The problem is that you have seen that people,
12:07MNAs and MPs are picked up and made to disappear.
12:11You have seen that the election commission,
12:15and the kind of decision-making that was done by the Chief Justice,
12:19you have seen that.
12:20After that, look at the decision-making of the parliament.
12:24Look at their statements.
12:26I mean, morality, the constitution, the law,
12:30this has gone beyond.
12:32The government has told them that they do not care.
12:35You can do whatever you want.
12:36We have it. You can take it.
12:38Right. But I am sorry I am cutting you short.
12:40I am sorry I am cutting you short.
12:42Let's talk about the government here.
12:44Some of the people of the city were cruel.
12:46Some of them wanted to kill us.
12:47That situation was going on.
12:48But in PTI, the people who stood up for themselves,
12:51the differences, you mentioned Atif Khan
12:53and you mentioned Ali Amin Gandapur.
12:55We saw them in front of us.
12:56There are different groups.
13:00Even if it is not a forward block, there are groups.
13:02Now, on the basis of these groups,
13:04how can you take the matter to a focused aim?
13:08Look, first of all, I just want to complete my point.
13:12Look, the government has told them that morality,
13:14the constitution, the law, has nothing to do with it.
13:17You can take it if you want to.
13:19Now, here, as long as it means that
13:21there will be no pressure on the road,
13:24as long as you do not compel the government,
13:26they will not come.
13:27Look, there is no problem in building bridges.
13:29The problem in PTI,
13:31when Mehmood Khan was the Chief Minister,
13:33there were fights in KP.
13:35But Khan Sahib was outside.
13:37Yes, I am telling you.
13:39The people are with Imran Khan.
13:41So, there is no need to build bridges.
13:43The problem with PTI is that
13:46they do not have a big political strategy.
13:48Look, you could not do the alliance.
13:50It has been a year.
13:52With the opposition parties,
13:54you could not build an alliance.
13:57The people who are outside,
13:59they may not be aware of it.
14:01The other people who are in politics…
14:03You have already talked about the alliance,
14:05Mr. Fawad.
14:06This is a very important thing at this time.
14:08Because, meeting Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
14:10and committees, and exchanging matters,
14:13that is fine up to that point.
14:15But once Mr. Zardari has gone,
14:17now Mr. Prime Minister has gone,
14:19Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
14:21do you think that with Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
14:23the matter which was difficult to streamline,
14:27is also in danger now?
14:31I personally feel that
14:33Maulana will not go with the government now.
14:36Because if he goes,
14:38he has a lot of repercussions.
14:41His politics will also go to the level of Shahbaz Sharif.
14:44Maulana is a very intelligent politician.
14:47He has never taken his politics
14:49to the level of Muslim League Noon.
14:51Because you see,
14:53Mr. Nawaz Sharif's policies,
14:55or Shahbaz Sharif,
14:57they have finished their politics.
14:59Now, what is the problem in Pakistan?
15:01If you minus Imran Khan,
15:03then Punjab will go to the hands
15:05of religious extremists.
15:07You will go to the hands of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
15:09and Balochistan ultra-nationalists.
15:11So, the problem is that
15:13the alternative political response
15:15that was to happen,
15:17is not with the Noon League.
15:19The Noon League has become zero.
15:21There is a burden on the establishment.
15:23They do not understand
15:25how to get rid of them.
15:27Neither are they able to help them,
15:29nor have they given all the responsibilities
15:31to the establishment.
15:33And the establishment has become
15:35in the line of the fire.
15:37This situation is not good for Pakistan.
15:39The government is not able to give anything.
15:41In my own program,
15:43Mr. Kamran Murtaza said that
15:45CMKPK is not able to move forward.
15:47Now, we know that
15:49their circle is that of the Governor
15:51and that of Maulana Fazlur Rehman.
15:53So, if they want to appease them,
15:55then they will have to sacrifice
15:57their circle and their CMship.
15:59Then there is the confirmation
16:01of two seats in the Senate.
16:03The JUI has also asked for two seats in the Senate.
16:05Will the PTI at this time
16:07lift its chair and
16:09put it in the lap of Maulana Fazlur Rehman?
16:11The thing is that
16:13Maulana Fazlur Rehman
16:15is not running an NGO
16:17and PTI is not just an NGO.
16:19So, there are political settlements.
16:21And if you don't want to give a seat in the Senate,
16:23then give it to the Public Accounts Committee.
16:25If you don't want to give it to the Public Accounts Committee,
16:27then take care of the districts there.
16:29This is a nitty-gritty.
16:31This is a nitty-gritty.
16:33But the big issues at this time
16:35are Maulana's and Imran Khan's
16:37views on Afghanistan.
16:39Their views on the
16:41PTI are the same.
16:43But the CM issue is not
16:45nitty-gritty.
16:47The CM issue is a big issue.
16:49We have to adjust.
16:51We have to fight our own elections.
16:53The elections are not happening yet.
16:55We will see when they happen.
16:57And it is not just Maulana's issue.
16:59It could not happen with the Jamaat-e-Islami.
17:01It could not happen with the JDA.
17:03It could not happen with Shahid Khan
17:05and Abbasi's party.
17:07Basically, at this time,
17:09we have to adjust.
17:11All the opposition parties
17:13have to come together.
17:15So that they can become the weight
17:17vis-a-vis the establishment,
17:19vis-a-vis PPP and Noon.
17:21Do you think that
17:23any kind of weight
17:25can be brought on the table
17:27of the establishment
17:29after all that has happened?
17:31What is the problem?
17:33What has happened?
17:35Nothing has happened.
17:37What does it matter?
17:39The biggest issue is
17:41the condition of Pakistan.
17:45The problem of Pakistan
17:47and PTI is that
17:49you do not want to
17:51make a Bangladesh model
17:53in Pakistan.
17:55Why do you not want to make it?
17:57Because you do not know
17:59where the situation will go.
18:01You have so many fractions
18:03and so many nationalists.
18:05Nationalists have their own agenda.
18:07Extremists have their own agenda.
18:11The normal politics
18:13has not remained in Pakistan.
18:15The problem is that
18:17Pakistan is a hodgepodge.
18:19PTI should try to
18:21bring the establishment,
18:23PPP and Noon
18:25towards the elections.
18:27This is a complex position.
18:29I totally agree.
18:31But this is politics.
18:33This is part of
18:35the possible.
18:37Absolutely.
18:39We are talking about the possibilities.
18:41We did not think that
18:43Nawaz Sharif will come back
18:45to Pakistan.
18:47It is possible that
18:49he will go back to London
18:51during the PMLN government.
18:53Mian Javed Latif confirmed
18:55that he will go to London.
18:57By the time he will be there,
18:59many things will change.
19:01What will be the situation?
19:03What will be the changes?
19:07Nawaz Sharif has made
19:09a big impact.
19:11He has campaigned.
19:13He has lost his election
19:15by 30,000 votes.
19:17It does not matter
19:19whether he comes back or not.
19:21Even if he goes back,
19:23political workers like Javed Latif
19:25who are not happy with
19:27Shahbaz Sharif and Mariam Bibi
19:29will lose their hope
19:31in Nawaz Sharif.
19:33They will lose their hope.
19:35There are many other people
19:37in the Noon League.
19:43The day establishment
19:45and Noon League's friendship
19:47weakens, the first party
19:49to change its leadership
19:51will be PMLN.
19:53Nawaz Sharif will not
19:55leave the Noon League.
19:57First of all, he has to
19:59become a politician.
20:01I don't think any changes
20:03will depend on Nawaz Sharif.
20:05Right now, it depends
20:07on whether Pakistan's
20:09establishment agrees
20:11with Imran Khan's
20:13political inclusion
20:15or not.
20:17If they don't agree
20:19then how will
20:21the next phase
20:23happen?
20:25It is problematic.
20:27It has been two years
20:29and Imran Khan is not
20:31losing his political influence.
20:33He is gaining.
20:35Imran Khan is getting bigger
20:37and bigger.
20:39At this point,
20:41Alima Khan has said
20:43that jail administration
20:45has imposed more restrictions
20:47on Imran Khan.
20:49Earlier, more people
20:51were allowed to meet
20:53political leaders.
20:55But now,
20:57we are not even allowed
20:59to meet lawyers.
21:01PTI is making more noise
21:03that we are being
21:05oppressed.
21:07But the oppression
21:09on others has increased.
21:11This is wrong.
21:13It is against the record.
21:15Ahsan Iqbal was in class B.
21:17Mian Nawaz Sharif
21:19was in class A.
21:21Nawaz Sharif
21:23was in jail.
21:25If you look at Nawaz Sharif's cell
21:27and Imran Khan's cell,
21:29you will see the difference.
21:31There were no restrictions
21:33on their meetings.
21:35There were no cameras
21:37installed.
21:39This is right.
21:41In my opinion,
21:43Nawaz Sharif should not
21:45have been sent to jail.
21:47Imran Khan was saying
21:49that there should be
21:51no discrimination.
21:53But he did the opposite.
21:55Imran Khan said
21:57that there should be
21:59no discrimination.
22:01All prisoners have
22:03television in jail.
22:05All prisoners have
22:07air conditioners.
22:09All the facilities
22:11that Imran Khan has,
22:13are also available
22:15to common prisoners.
22:17What is the problem?
22:19Nawaz Sharif, Ahsan Iqbal
22:21and other people
22:23did not get coverage
22:25because they did not have
22:27importance.
22:29Today, all the politics
22:31of Pakistan are running
22:33under Imran Khan.
22:35Media coverage
22:37depends on your relevance.
22:39The more relevant you are,
22:41the more media coverage
22:43you will get.
22:45You should not
22:47lose your relevance.
23:15This is the reason
23:17why terrorists
23:19do not let
23:21SCO conference
23:23be held.
23:25There are some countries
23:27and some evidence
23:29that cannot be
23:31denied.
23:33If we extrapolate,
23:35India and Afghanistan
23:37will be affected.
23:39The increasing
23:41incidents in Balochistan
23:43have shaken
23:45the country.
23:47The political
23:49situation has also
23:51changed.
23:53We saw the discussion
23:55in the Senate.
23:57In Poeta,
23:59the Prime Minister
24:01met with the
24:03Apex Committee.
24:05He said that
24:07we should not talk
24:09to terrorists.
24:11Today,
24:13Mr. Shabashiri said
24:15that the atmosphere
24:17created on 26th
24:19was not normal.
24:41Interview with
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