Panayam kina Chairman Alexander Lopez at Asst. General Manager for Reclamation Joseph John Literal ng Philippine Reclamation Authority ukol sa mga proyekto, plano, at iba pang updates mula sa Philippine Reclamation Authority
Panayam kina Chairman Alexander Lopez at Asst. General Manager for Reclamation Joseph John Literal ng Philippine Reclamation Authority ukol sa mga proyekto, plano, at iba pang updates mula sa Philippine Reclamation Authority
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00:00Projects, plans, and other updates from the Philippine Reclamation Authority,
00:06we will discuss with none other than Attorney Alexander Lopez,
00:11the Chairman of the Philippine Reclamation Authority or PRA,
00:16and Attorney Joseph John Literal,
00:19Assistant General Manager for Reclamation of the Philippine Reclamation Authority.
00:25Attorney Lopez and Attorney Literal, welcome to Bagong Pilipinas ngayon.
00:29Mabuhay po kayo, mabuhay po ang Bagong Pilipinas at magandang tanghali po sa inyo.
00:35Ma'am Nina Corpuz and Sir Dale po, magandang tanghali po.
00:41Kami po ay excited magtanong sa inyo kasi sabi niyo nga po kahit ano daw eh.
00:47Oo, pero siyempre unahin po natin.
00:48Kahit sa private life pwede.
00:50Kahit private life pwede.
00:53Una po sa lahat.
00:53Lahat po pwede.
00:55Ano po ang mga marching orders ni Pangulong Ferdinand R. Marcos, Jr. sa inyo
01:01bilang Chairman po ng Philippine Reclamation Authority?
01:06Simple lang naman po ang gusto ng ating Pangulo.
01:09Ang gusto po ng ating Pangulo ay paano tayo makakatulong sa higit na nakakarami.
01:14Kaya by law po, PD1084, we were established as the Public Estates Authority
01:22to take care of all the lands of the Republic.
01:27Eventually, by administrative order, naging Public Reclamations Authority po.
01:33And by the wishes of the President to help the poor,
01:36we have been the poverty reduction advocates po by choice po namin.
01:42So lahat po ng ginagawa namin on reclamation with an end in view of helping poverty reduction
01:49sa programa po ng bagong Pilipinas po ni Pangulong President Ferdinand Marcos.
01:56Siguro sir, paliwanag lang po natin paano naman po tinutupad
02:00ng PRA ang mandato nito bilang isang Public Estates Authority at bilang poverty reduction advocate?
02:08Napakarami po ng aming ginagawa.
02:12Una po, we are creating hundreds of thousands of jobs
02:19by creating the land we sit on.
02:24Napakarami po ng nabibigyan ng trabaho.
02:28Kung inyong makikita, we have 900 hectares of reclamation right now.
02:34Ito lang po, to give you a microcosm, kasi if we will explain everything,
02:40it will take three or four shows to explain what we are doing.
02:44But in summary, to give you a synopsis,
02:48we are ngayon ho, yung buong mawa area over the past years po, 900 hectares po yan.
02:54But we have hundreds and thousands of reclamation, the past PRA po.
03:00And you can see that we have 20 hotels po in that new reclamation area.
03:08We have four of the biggest casinos in the Philippines.
03:12We have several malls po.
03:15We have several malls.
03:18Napakarami na po.
03:19Tapos yung nakikita niyo po na Expressway sa Cavitex,
03:24kung saan nagbigay ng free toll si Presidente po ng isang buwan,
03:31ay pag-aari rin po ng PRA.
03:35Pero mas maganda po up to today because of our President's desire.
03:42Alam niyo, makabayan, makamahirap po si Presidente, makatao.
03:47Magmula po hanggang ngayon po, lagpas na po ang 30-day free toll,
03:51meron pa ho yung bagong section, good news po.
03:55Yung bagong section po natin, magmula sa Cavite po,
04:00pag-e-exit kayo sa sukat, libre pa po.
04:03Palagay ko, hindi ho masyadong alam ng napakarami yun.
04:05Akala nila yung 30 days ng free toll.
04:08Hanggang ngayon po, at nakita naman natin that the economic growth was spurred
04:14because of this opening for free toll of the President.
04:17Ngayon, going back to the other poverty reduction programs,
04:21we have Land for the Landless program po.
04:25Bago po ito, at we can see several governors and mayors have problems po
04:31on settlements by informal settlers on land that was reclaimed.
04:41Kasi po, to give you an idea, kung ito po ang coast, gagawa ang DPWH ng kalye,
04:48ito po, tubig, unti-unti natatambakan at nasesettle ng libu-libong informal settlers.
04:55So, the Public Recreations Authority will have a novel program under Bagong Pilipinas
05:04to work to title all of these and it will reach hundreds of thousands.
05:08Matitituluhan po natin subject to environmental and safety regulations po.
05:14Mabibigay tayo na napakaraming titulo sa program naman natin sa mga ngingisda.
05:22Alam natin na the poorest of the poor are not the informal settlers,
05:28not the farmers, but the fishermen.
05:30So, we work so hard to help the informal settlers,
05:35the fishermen, nagbibigay po kami librim bangka,
05:39maybe Mr. Literal who is involved with the activities.
05:44Pwede nyo sigurong elaborate kung ano-ano pa ginagawa natin for the fishermen po.
05:51Hindi na, Sir Dale.
05:54Lahat po itong project na ito may mga kondisyones po ang pamalaan.
05:58We are required to come up with a social development management plan
06:02for both our dredging activity and also the reclamation.
06:07So, yung mga pondo na kailangan naming ibuhos dito,
06:11yun po yung sinasabi natin na pupunta sa fisherfolks,
06:15na pupunta sa directly affected, impacted communities,
06:18and also sa mga informal settlers.
06:24We are working with the Anti-Poverty Commission headed by Lopez Santos.
06:30And yesterday, we had gotten in contact with Larry Gadon po,
06:36our presidential advisor on poverty.
06:40And we are working in coordination with them and the Anti-Poverty Commission,
06:45of which is chaired by our president,
06:49to help and direct these efforts that we are undertaking.
06:54So, marami palang ginagawa ang Philippine Reclamation Authority,
06:58hindi lang reclaim ng reclaim ng lupa.
07:02So, it's more than that.
07:03Kasi for a time, siyempre, naging controversial.
07:07Very big issue po, dyan sa May Manila Bay,
07:10di ba, kung saan sinisisi ngayon dahil po sa mga pagbaha.
07:14Okay, so ano po ang masasabi niyo dun sa mga nangyaring pagbaha?
07:18Recently, yung Kesero, yung Senado,
07:21na dating hindi daw binabaha, ay bigla daw pong binaha,
07:24at sinisisi sa mga reclamation.
07:28We have a document here, even the Senator,
07:33the Chief of Staff of our beloved Senate President,
07:36Chief Escudero,
07:38has admitted that all these floods in front of the Senate
07:42was mainly caused by the mishandling of the drainage,
07:47and the unaliness on drainage,
07:49and debris, and other factors po.
07:55And Project NOAH has also cleared the reclamation projects
08:01na walang kinalaman ang reclamation po.
08:04The DPWH, on several instances,
08:07has said that they have owned the lack of planning po,
08:17holistic planning, for these flash floods.
08:20E flash floods lang po ito.
08:22And we are ready to address all these flash floods.
08:27Kaya ngayon po, we are undertaking na paglilinis po
08:31sa mga drainage systems.
08:34Yung sinasabi po ng ating kagalang-galang
08:37at pinakamamahal na Secretary of Environment and Natural Resources,
08:41na Tony Yulon, who happens to be my classmate also,
08:49that it slows down the flow of water.
08:51We are addressing all these issues,
08:54and we are working po that the exits,
09:02ingress, and egress of all reclamation projects be cleared.
09:06For example, the original reclamation project,
09:09which was approved by President Duterte,
09:12na nakadikit sa Sofitel,
09:15pinauusog na po namin ang 470 meters.
09:19So magkakaroon po ng napakalaking seawater lake
09:23in front of the Sofitel, channel lake,
09:26in front of the Sofitel to the new reclamation.
09:29And we will have two iconic bridges that will connect this.
09:33So 470 meters po.
09:36So may lake, kumbaga, mapapalibutan siya ng well land.
09:39Ang tubig po, ang tubig.
09:41Parang magiging island na po talaga siya.
09:43Island na po, lahat na reclamation.
09:46Yan po ang ilang mga pagbabago sa ating mga reclamation projects.
09:50And the former president po has approved several reclamation projects.
09:59However, these are now under review.
10:02And on Manila Bay alone,
10:04there is a suspension on all reclamation projects
10:07pending the thorough evaluation and review of all the government agencies.
10:12So kami po, so far po, dalawa po ang binigyan namin after evaluation.
10:21But I don't know the environmental compliances
10:28and other compliances of the other proponents po.
10:33But in the meantime, from ilang po ba?
10:3713 po.
10:3713.
10:38Dalawa na lang po ang may gozinal sa Manila Bay.
10:45And nationwide po, mayroon tayong moratorium.
10:48Ang ibig sabihin po ng moratorium,
10:50hindi pwedeng mag-apply ang hindi naka-apply nung araw.
10:54So in other words, we will not entertain new applications.
10:58So we are only entertaining.
11:00So may ikpit po, ang presidente natin,
11:04I cannot say he's averse to reclamation.
11:06He's just being very careful.
11:09Manapaka ingat po niya na pag-approve po.
11:14Gusto niya, walang maapektuhan.
11:16Gusto niya lahat makikinabang.
11:18At alam niyo, the Congress, Joey Salceda says we have trillions.
11:24Totoo po yun.
11:25We have, and we really have trillions and trillions of income
11:32on these reclamation projects.
11:34But of course, the president wants also that
11:38yung mga maapektuhan ho pan samantala.
11:42Because this will have, although as sa paningin namin,
11:48mas marami yung makikinabang sa reclamation.
11:51Pero ang maapektuhan, the impact might be permanent
11:55on their social and economic life.
11:59At ayaw po ng pangulo po na may maapektuhan permanently.
12:03Kaya tinitingnan ho namin na maigi at masusing pag-aaral
12:08lahat ng maapektuhan.
12:10Yung tunay pong maapektuhan.
12:12Yun, yung kasi mga fishermen po natin,
12:14sila yung mga isa sa mga nagreklamo rin po noon,
12:18dahil hindi nga sila makapangisda.
12:20But now you're saying, which was answered,
12:23kasi dalawa na lang out of 13 ang may go signals sa ngayon.
12:27But let me just go back doon sa sinabi niyo,
12:29parang may isla.
12:31It sounds very exciting actually,
12:34as Ikdale Sirs.
12:36What does that mean?
12:37It means wala nang haharang doon sa pagkunyari,
12:40nagkaroon ng masyadong maraming ulan.
12:43May flow, parang may river doon sa gitna or something.
12:46Merong kang daluya ng tubig.
12:48Ganun po ba?
12:48Hindi po ako engineer,
12:49pero attorney literal, I'm sure inaral niya yan.
12:51Ma'am Ninya, actually, yun po yung reason.
12:55Yung design po kasi,
12:57it depends on the flood study, hydrodynamic modeling.
13:02So because of these studies na pinagawa namin sa proponent
13:07tsaka sa mga consultants,
13:09yun po yung naging result na dapat po maging island po yung reclamation.
13:15Dati po hindi?
13:17Dati po kasi,
13:18kung mapapansin niyo yung mga reclamation dati,
13:20nakadikit po sa lupa.
13:22Then to address yung climate change,
13:25saka yung iba nang dami nung rainfall,
13:31so ang naging result po ng flooding studies and hydrodynamic modeling
13:36is to have wider channels doon sa mga reclamation projects.
13:43And ng result po, more than the wider channels,
13:47it's better to have island reclamations than
13:50reclamations that are extended to the land.
13:57This has been studied by several international consultants po,
14:05experts, Royal Asconis, Buscalis, AECOM,
14:10at napakarami pong...
14:12And we are undergoing with UP and other agencies
14:22for the environmental and marine effects of all of these.
14:28And ang pag-usog po na ito,
14:30kasi natamba ka na eh.
14:32Nakita niyo, natamba ka na yung salty tail.
14:34Ngayon, uusog po siya 470 meters.
14:38And this will cost tens of billions of pesos po.
14:42But the President has ordered it.
14:45And mabuti naman po, wala naman problema doon sa mga proponents.
14:49Uusog po sila para hindi maka-apekto po.
14:54Sir, balikan ko lang yung kanina, yung suspension.
15:00Nabanggit niyo kanina na there are suspended projects, reclamation projects.
15:05But in connection din sa tanong po ng ating kasamahan sa media na si Evelyn Quiroz
15:11from Pilipino Mirror,
15:13yung bang developers na may reclamation projects sa Manila Bay,
15:17are they allowed to proceed or will they still be allowed to proceed?
15:20In the meantime that it is suspended, they are not allowed to proceed.
15:24But they are allowed to proceed with the compliances po,
15:29which are requirements for their resumption.
15:32Ngayon kung makikita naman na hindi sila makaka-apekto sa environment at sa security ng bansa
15:39at sa, I am sure makakatulong sila as I said,
15:46kasi yung tulong nila sa ekonomiya, sa GDP, sa trabaho.
15:53That is one side.
15:54We have also to look at the effects which may affect permanent lives.
16:01And in the future, pahotong economic benefits which it's very clear to me
16:07and I invite you how beautiful the reclamation project is.
16:12Yung nagsasabi na wala yung sunset natin.
16:18Hindi po namin kinukuha yung sunset.
16:21Anilalapit lang po namin ang taong bayan sa sunset.
16:24We are just bringing you closer.
16:26And in bringing you closer to the sunset,
16:29when you turn around, you will see what the real Philippines look like.
16:33Yung landscape po ng Manila, ang Manila Bay.
16:38Hindi yung ng Manila Bay, pati yung buong Metro Manila, NCR, ang ganda po.
16:44And you will be proud that you're Filipinos.
16:46Maybe I can invite all of you and our televiewers.
16:50One day, we will be having activities there po.
16:53At marami po kaming program.
16:56We are focusing to enhance the immediate increase in the valuation of the property.
17:04Kasi alam nyo, 49% lang ang investor dito.
17:09Ang Pilipinas po is, ayun po, ating makikita is one of the projects that we are undertaking to beautify.
17:20Makikita nyo po.
17:21Parang Singapore.
17:22Mas maganda po.
17:24Tangga, sir.
17:24Bukay pa kaya ako nun, sir?
17:27Ito, in three years, this will be inaugurated.
17:32We are already getting the NEDA approval because yung ASEAN po natin, alam nyo,
17:42nahirapan tayo, hiwa-hiwalay ang mga venues.
17:46Because we do not have enough venues.
17:48This is 260,000 square meters.
17:51It is three times bigger than the Senate building and one-third the cost,
17:56or maybe one-fourth the cost of the Senate building.
17:59Really?
18:00And you see how beautiful it is.
18:02Makikita nyo po yun.
18:04Yung tabindagat po, madadagdagan po na apat na doble ang Ross Boulevard natin.
18:11Ayan, nakikita nyo, katapat nyan Ross Boulevard.
18:14Ayan lang, makikita nyo.
18:15Katapat nyan Ross Boulevard.
18:17At yung tabindagat po, lahat po yan, lalagyan namin ng kalye.
18:21So we will be having four times more for sure.
18:25Not only more space, four times more for sure.
18:34Ang ganda po ng building.
18:35Anong po itong building na ito?
18:36This will be the Philippine International Exhibition Center, yung sinasabi ko po.
18:41And like, for example, it will be an exhibition, trade, and convention center.
18:47Like the Rotary Club po has decided to put the Rotary International in the Philippines
18:54because of lack of a venue.
18:56They have redirected their, kinansal na yung sa Philippines.
19:01Sayang naman, napakarami po ng pagkakataon.
19:04And that is one of the buildings po that we will.
19:09Another building is the Philippine Reclamation Authority building.
19:12As of today, we're spending billions po of pesos rental.
19:16Like yesterday, I was just talking to our Solicitor General.
19:28We will be building the PRA building which will house not only several government agencies
19:38on our 100,000 square meter building,
19:40but it will also save the government of billions yearly for the government.
19:55We had signed a MOA with the Provincial Governors League.
20:10They will showcase their trade, their culture, their arts,
20:14and they can put an office.
20:15Every province po, makakatulong po sa...
20:18Nakatawa po marinig yan, lalo na kong love local eh.
20:22Usong-uso pa naman po ngayon eh.
20:24Kami po eh mahilig sa mga gawa at likhang Pinoy.
20:28Okay, so well, siguro po pwedeng malaman, mga magkano po ang gagastusin ng gobyerno?
20:33Magkano yung building na yan?
20:35Na parang PICC?
20:36Yung 100,000 square meters po, we are...
20:41It will be up for bidding, but it will be definitely lower than 7 billion.
20:44That is bigger than the Senate building, but one-fourth the price po.
20:53And the Philippine International Exhibition Center, we will not bid it
20:59because it is not our building.
21:01It will be a Republic of the Philippines building to be held in public works.
21:07Inaayos po nila ngayon ng mga agency estimates, but it's 260,000,
21:13so it will be within the bounds of DPWH standards po.
21:20260,000 square meters.
21:23O, alam nyo ngayon pag pinagsama nyo...
21:25Ano ba yung 260,000 square meters?
21:30To give you an idea, para ma-imagine nyo,
21:32the PICC, Philippine International Convention Center,
21:36the MOA, which we have exhibitions in the world trade,
21:41has roughly 30,000 square meters.
21:46And this is nine times bigger.
21:51So pag-isama-samayin nyo, this will be nine times bigger.
21:56So not only that,
21:58but we have a monorail, and we have a private proponent that will spend,
22:05at no cost to the government,
22:08we will have a monorail that will eventually link the 20 hotels,
22:14the four biggest casinos in the Philippines,
22:17and the several malls within the reclamation area po.
22:21E yung mga cable car, uso rin yun eh.
22:23May mga nag-suggest.
22:24Parang bagay rin yung cable car doon.
22:26Ngayon, we are pushing the five private proponents po.
22:30They had a clearance with, may MOA na sila, with the DOTR.
22:35They are now awaiting MOA with the DPWH,
22:39and kami, we will more likely give them right of way po.
22:42Okay.
22:43Sige po, siguro for Atty. Literal,
22:45Sir, hingi na din po kami ng detalye doon sa partnership ng PRA at ng TNP
22:52para habulin yung illegal reclamation.
22:56Yes po.
22:56Nabagit po kanina ni Chairman na hindi lang po tinututukan ng PRA ang regular reclamation,
23:04pero mas malaki kong problema ang illegal reclamation.
23:07Kasi po, hindi po dumadaan yan sa permitting process ni PRA.
23:12Secondly, even the, sometimes even ECC tsaka area clearance, wala.
23:17And lastly, yung mga design niya, hindi namin nare-review.
23:21So, since ang opisina kasi ni PRA, nasa, dito lang kami sa NCR,
23:27and medyo mababa, maliit yung aming workforce to look after the nationwide activities ng reclamation,
23:36nakipag-partner po kami with PNP.
23:39And NBI.
23:40And NBI also.
23:41Para po, sila po yung magiging watchdog namin or magiging mga parang...
23:47Enforcement.
23:48Enforcement namin doon.
23:49Enforcement capability.
23:50They would trigger any activity ni PRA para mat-check kung merong illegal reclamations.
23:55Kunyari, may mga activities po na dumping, i-report po niya agad kay PRA.
24:02And also, under the regulations, kapag po meron na kami nakitang mga illegal reclamation
24:07and we need to issue a cease and desist order,
24:11we can also tap their enforcement agencies for the service of the CDOs.
24:20Okay.
24:21May sunod po na tanong si Evelyn Quiroz ng Pilipino Mirror.
24:25In the event daw po of breach of contract dyan po sa reclamation projects,
24:30who has jurisdiction over the case?
24:33Is it penal or civil in nature?
24:35At ano po ang posibling sanction?
24:39Go ahead.
24:40Based on contract po kasi pag may violations, may option po kasi kami take over yung project.
24:46So based on contract, pwede pong i-take over ni PRA ang proyekto.
24:54Pag naman po doon sa illegal and authorized, under the law din po sa PD3-A,
25:01we can take over the property in the form of forfeiture.
25:05And ang magmamayari na po noon ay ang national government through PRA.
25:11And doon po naman sa ibang violation, siyempre po lahat naman po yan may due process.
25:16So kung kaya po naman nilang isagutin or i-correct yung mga violation,
25:23we could allow them under the contract din po, yung mga clauses under the contract,
25:29kung paano po natin maayos yung isang contract.
25:32Madagdagan lang po tungkol sa penal provision.
25:35Up to now, there is no penal provision po because penal provisions are only provided by law.
25:41But we are coordinating with Congress to put sanctions and penal provisions on
25:47illegal reclamation activities.
25:49So of course, masusing pag-aaral po yan kasi marami pong illegal reclamation katulad ng
25:59from our part, illegal siya kasi hindi siya nag-apply ng permit ng pag-tambak ng pag-reclaim.
26:06Pero by law, legal siya kasi they are provided.
26:11To give you an example, the General Appropriations Act provides roads,
26:15piers, in the sea, in the lakes, and in our shores.
26:21So pag pumasok sila dun, by General Appropriations Act, that is a law,
26:29we have to obey the General Appropriations Act.
26:32Pero they have to still go to us for processing whether that's safe, whether that's sound,
26:37whether it's not in conflict with any.
26:40But if they do not do that, eh di General Appropriations Act end in one year.
26:47So nagkaka-problema po.
26:49Up to now, there are no penal provisions on others aside from that and others that are
26:54allowed by the local government and other government agencies and instrumentalities.
27:19So hindi po siya penal, pero administrative pwede po.
27:22But sir, may tanong pa rin po mula kay Evelyn Quiroz ng Pilipino Mirror.
27:27Have you received any complaint from the so-called Sunset Association regarding the ongoing
27:33reclamation projects in Manila Bay?
27:35And ano daw po ang ginagawanin yung aksyon?
27:38Or ginawanin yung aksyon?
27:40Yan pong Sunset Association.
27:42I don't know if yun po yung association.
27:44Pero before pa ho mag-umpis sa yan, meron na po silang mga complaint na mawawala nga
27:50daw po yung sunset sa Manila Bay.
27:52We will not remove the most beautiful and majestic sunset, po.
27:56So nagdik-
27:57Naurong lang siguro.
27:59Ilalapit lang namin kayo sa sunset.
28:02Ma'am Nina, Sir Dale, actually nagka-requirement po ang Office of the President yan,
28:06na we should have a sunset corridor.
28:09Ibig sabihin, kahit to may building, dapat may isang portion
28:12na looking at from one side, any person can view the sunset.
28:17Kaya po yung tawag nilang sunset corridor.
28:20So we need to require the proponents for that corridor.
28:24Construction is a very messy and ugly process.
28:28But once it is built, then you can judge us.
28:32And ngayon pa lang po, iniimbitahan ko na po lahat yung sunset ano na yan,
28:37that they will see that napakaganda po ng sunset, nandung pa rin po.
28:43Pinalawak pa namin dahil we will be building four times more shoreline.
28:49So every shoreline are direct access to the sunset.
28:53And we are creating land at no expense to the government.
28:57We are creating wealth and value,
29:04not only in aesthetics, but also in economics,
29:08and to increase our social, cultural, and other facets of the life of every Filipino.
29:34MPC, hello.
29:36May ma-imbita niyo po rin sila diyan.
29:39So maraming salamat po sa inyong oras,
29:41Attorney Alexander Lopez,
29:44ang Chairman ng Philippine Reclamation Authority,
29:47at Attorney Joseph John Literal,
29:49Assistant General Manager for Reclamation ng PRA.