Bangladesh kay bad Agla Inqlab Kahan...??? Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed's Bold Analysis
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Bangladesh kay bad Agla Inqlab Kahan...??? Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed's Bold Analysis
Bangladesh kay bad Agla Inqlab Kahan...??? Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed's Bold Analysis
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00:00We've had many humble generals before, sir. We've had many over here as well.
00:03No, when we take over...
00:04You came here with the same humility.
00:06When there is a takeover in a coup d'etat, there is a slight pressure.
00:13The tone is different.
00:15So here you don't have the fear of takeover?
00:17You don't have the fear of martial law?
00:19Because this has been tried 29 times.
00:21No, that takeover has been de facto.
00:23In the sense that the army will oversee the transition.
00:26Just like in Pakistan, even in Bangladesh, the army is back in the centre stage.
00:31They are in the driving seat.
00:33They will decide how long the government will last,
00:36when the elections will take place,
00:38and how the future will unfold.
00:40So it's a transition now.
00:42After 15 years, there has been a transition.
00:45I'm saying that even in Bangladesh, there have been those fault lines.
00:48Martial law...
00:49Oh yes, very much so.
00:50In fact, we have a lot of discipline there.
00:52And as you mentioned in your introduction,
00:55they were all trained by the PM, right?
00:58Yes, absolutely.
00:59You mentioned General Khalid Musharraf,
01:01General Hussain Mahmood Irshad,
01:03who was a friend of mine, I interviewed him twice.
01:05Then you mentioned General Zia-ur-Rehman.
01:07General Zia-ur-Rehman was an instructor in the PM.
01:11Because Khalid-ur-Zia used to be there, he was the company commander there.
01:14So he was the founder of the Pakistan Military Academy.
01:17So you don't have the fear of any official martial law over there?
01:22You feel that the army will come?
01:24Yes.
01:25You feel that the army will come?
01:26Yes.
01:27You are also saying that it will take three months.
01:28Some locals and journalists are also saying that it will take three months.
01:32We will run the cooling off period till the end of the year.
01:35You will run it?
01:36Yes.
01:37There is a need for a cooling off period.
01:38Because there has been a huge change.
01:39And then there will be an election?
01:40Then there will be an election.
01:41How fair will that be, sir?
01:42I think we will have to make the elections fair.
01:44And in the elections, I don't think the army will come back.
01:48The army is a political force.
01:50It will support and regroup.
01:51But the rest of the people who were suppressed,
01:54because that was an election from Dhandi, right?
01:56Total problem.
01:57But tell me one thing, sir, quickly also,
01:59that there will be a revolution somewhere else?
02:02Where there will be such circumstances,
02:06it will be completely unpopular.
02:08What are the ingredients?
02:10I said three Rs.
02:12Rigging, repression, resistance.
02:17Rigging, repression, resistance.
02:20Sounds familiar?
02:21Very familiar.
02:22Almost too familiar.
02:24So let's see, I think, closer to home,
02:27and we should also be here,
02:28that we have an issue with the electricity bill.
02:30People are fighting elsewhere.
02:32But sir, there are so many similarities.
02:34Repression, rigging, resistance.
02:36Do you know that General Bakaro Zaman,
02:38who was the Chief of Army Staff,
02:39he was a special person for them.
02:41He also had a relative, Haseena Wajid.
02:45Married to one of her close relatives.
02:47He chose her and made her.
02:49He made her in June.
02:50Absolutely.
02:51Before that, he made her Chief of General Staff.
02:53A lot of mistakes,
02:54that Nawaz Sharif has made in the past.
02:57Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Ghulam Ishaq Khan.
02:59All of them.
03:00The guy is never your guy.
03:02He says, my man is the Chief of Army Staff.
03:04No, no.
03:05Army Chief is loyal to the institution and to the country.
03:08Absolutely.
03:09Not to the person who makes his nomination.
03:11Sometimes you have to go out of your way to prove that.
03:13I am with my institution.
03:14It's common sense.
03:15You have done so many comparisons.
03:16But you know, there is a very differing factor as well.
03:18Which creates a very different situation.
03:20You say, rigging is an issue here.
03:22Repression is an issue here.
03:24Resistance is an issue here.
03:25But sir, there was an incumbency factor there.
03:274 regimes, 4 governments,
03:29over a period of 15 years.
03:31There is no incumbency factor here.
03:33Is there?
03:34I mean, after 16 months, you are talking about this.
03:36Yes, yes.
03:37I mean, if you are served stale food for the second time,
03:42second serving of stale food,
03:44I mean, you first got PDM-1,
03:46which was the Cobalt coalition of the previous governments.
03:50After that, they were installed after a rigged election.
03:53So, what is the difference?
03:55There is an incumbency going on, right?
03:57What else?
03:59Incumbency is the continuity of an old order,
04:02which is weak from within,
04:05and lacks credibility and legitimacy.
04:07So, what lesson would you like to teach today?
04:09The lesson I would like to teach is,
04:11I say, healing touch.
04:13Take everyone with you.
04:15And don't assume with arrogance,
04:17that through power, we will crush the public power.
04:21And we will be successful in crushing it.
04:23This didn't happen anywhere.
04:25It won't happen here either.
04:26And listen to the voices.
04:28We assume that popular policy,
04:30how experienced was the politician,
04:32Haseena Wajid.
04:33She was totally out of touch.
04:35She seemed to be sitting like Mary Antoinette,
04:37like before the French Revolution.
04:39Let them eat cake.
04:41This was the situation.
04:42Totally out of touch.
04:43And somehow she had to run.
04:44The helicopter left.
04:47Back home to Rajit Doval,
04:49and the New Delhi crowd,
04:50and Agartala.
04:52What irony is this?
04:53Do you find her indefinitely going into exile?
04:55And the next government,
04:56will they be as pro-India as her?
04:58No, no. India has suffered a huge defeat.
05:02By the grace of Allah.
05:03India has lost Bangladesh.
05:05Don't forget this.
05:06India has lost Bangladesh.
05:08Because they think that Bangladesh is in their pocket.
05:12I noted the popular sentiment.
05:14I travelled a couple of times.
05:16My Bangladeshi friends told me,
05:18don't think that the crowd of Awami League,
05:22and Haseena Wajid,
05:24they said that the biggest demonstration,
05:26Kashmir,
05:27today is Kashmir Day by the way.
05:28Yes, from 5 places.
05:29From 5 places.
05:30The injustice done by India,
05:31and the annexation.
05:33Their biggest demonstration,
05:35against it,
05:36didn't happen in Pakistan.
05:38It happened in Dhaka.
05:393 years ago.
05:40300,000 people came out in Dhaka,
05:42Bangladeshi,
05:44in support of Kashmir,
05:45against India.
05:46That's the Indian Embassy,
05:47High Commissioner of Attack.
05:48So India has lost Kashmir,
05:49you're saying.
05:50Kashmir has already lost,
05:51it's already occupied territory.
05:52They've lost Bangladesh.
05:54Allah forgive me,
05:55are you scared of a hat-trick?
05:56I'm not scared.
05:58Are you looking forward to one?
06:00If the injustice ends,
06:02and the iniquity ends,
06:04and the failed government ends,
06:06then that's not a bad thing.
06:08The people should get relief.
06:09My interest is,
06:10that the people of Pakistan,
06:12are pissing,
06:13while the ruling class is having fun.
06:15The cabinet is getting bigger,
06:17there's no difference in their wealth,
06:20people are doing sales,
06:22have you seen,
06:23how they're enjoying,
06:24whether it's the Olympic Games,
06:26whether they're enjoying here also.
06:27In that,
06:28business is usual.
06:29Pakistan,
06:30when they go to Islamabad,
06:31they'll feel,
06:32there's no crisis here.
06:33There's plenty of money,
06:34the government is enjoying,
06:36the people are getting relief.
06:38The ruling class is having fun,
06:40their cases are over,
06:41their families are having fun,
06:43they're enjoying.
06:44What were the common things in Bangladesh?
06:46Corruption,
06:47cronyism,
06:48coercion.
06:49Corruption,
06:50cronyism,
06:51means friendship,
06:53family,
06:54rule,
06:55and coercion.
06:57Thank you very much,
06:59Thank you,
07:00Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed,
07:01after three hours,
07:02rigging,
07:03repression,
07:04and resistance,
07:05you're highlighting three C's,
07:07Pakistan should be alert,
07:09should take the message,
07:10strong sentiments,
07:11resentment,
07:12like Haseena Wajid's government,
07:14against repressive politics,
07:15we've seen the Bangladeshi people,
07:17after a massively rigged election,
07:19a rapidly sliding economy,
07:21and with that,
07:22their families and cronies,
07:23about corruption,
07:24allegations,
07:25these are all reasons,
07:26to be warned,
07:27very loudly,
07:28a very short break,
07:29we're going to be right back.