House Of The Dragon Season 2 Why Helaena Sees The Night King & White Walkers
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00:00Welcome back everyone it's Charlie we've seen a lot of Helena's dragon dreams on house
00:20the dragon both season one and season two now and based on what they revealed on the
00:24show so far in the behind the scenes Helena has essentially seen everything from the events
00:29of the original game of thrones series later in the timeline like Jon Snow Daenerys the
00:33Night King the white walkers I've joked before that she's seen all the game of thrones DVDs
00:38like she seen all the spoilers for everything that's going to happen the showrunner said
00:42the way they've written her characters that she lives more in a dreamlike world not being
00:46able to distinguish her dreams from reality which is why she always seems like she's a
00:51space cadet and is rarely present in the moment which is actually talking to anyone briefly
00:56you will see her briefly in the moment which is talking to Allison for instance, but any
01:00time she stares off into the distance or pauses mid conversation getting that far away look
01:05in her eyes.
01:06She's either remembering some dragon dream or she's having a waking dream in unconsciously
01:10speaking what she's seeing without really understanding what it means probably the best
01:15example that was during season two episode one which was knitting to Harris's funeral
01:19shroud without realizing why she was knitting it because she'd seen blood and cheese she's
01:24seen his death and knew that she would need it, but she didn't remember why or why was
01:28important or when it would happen and in the most recent clip that they released I put
01:31at the beginning of this video.
01:33She literally says that is all a story your but one part of that you know what you must
01:38do me that she's telling someone about how they fit into the larger prophecy of the prince
01:42who was promised the long night the fight against the Night King and the white walkers
01:46me that she would have had to have seen all those events that happen in the future the
01:50characters that should have to have seen the white walkers to be able to say something
01:53like that and it seems like the show is now changing some of how dragon dreams and visions
01:58just in general work because all the visions Damon has been getting at Harrenhal aren't
02:02dragon dreams are meant to be weirwood visions which are supposed to work totally differently
02:06in the books.
02:07So will break it all down and what it all means and how the show is changed how all
02:11these different types of visions are supposed to work.
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02:17about house the dragon season three in night of the seven kingdoms will be getting night
02:21of the seven kingdoms episodes next year house the dragon season three probably won't
02:25premiere until 2026 maybe Helena can drop some dragon dreams about everything is can
02:30happen in season three.
02:31So we'll have to wait that long to find out to be fair though everybody that's been having
02:35visions detail stuff that will happen in season three and season four.
02:39So technically they have been revealing what can happen in the future the show, but in
02:43the clip I put the beginning of this they reveal that Helena is telling someone about
02:46the grand story of a song of ice and fire like George RR Martin has told Helena all
02:51the spoilers for winds of winter in a dream of spring maybe she's written down the plots
02:55of those books somewhere in her things like she does have books that she's written and
02:58scribbled her dragon dreams in maybe we look harder and some of her scrapbooks around a
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04:20for what Helena is saying to actually make sense.
04:23She would need to have seen everything that happens in the future.
04:26Now I say future because in the books and at least so far on house the dragon the way
04:31they've depicted dragon dreams is that people witness things that are happening in the future
04:35and it has to be someone inside the Targaryen line as far as we know other valyrians didn't
04:40have dragon dreams and that maybe there were some out there that had dragon dreams, but
04:44Danis the dreamer is like the earliest dragon dreamer that we know about.
04:48But the way dragon dreamers physically see their dreams experience the dragon dreams
04:53there more like Daenerys's visions in the house the undying where they're kind of unclear
04:57and can be interpreted in many different ways or misinterpreted the big difference between
05:02this and the weirwood visions like the ones Damon has been getting at Harrenhal is the
05:06weirwood visions are meant to be something that previously only green seers in the children
05:11of the forest have been able to see before now and to boot your only supposed to be able
05:16to see things from the past that are in proximity to the weirwoods themselves with the faces
05:21on them that is unless another green seer causes you to see specific things like putting
05:26visions in your head which is the three eyed raven did to brand during the original show
05:31like he was giving brand visions.
05:33So another green seer could have been making Damon have all these different weirwood visions
05:37this whole time like visions of his mother young Rhaenyra himself and Amos clothing and
05:41eye patch another been a bunch of theories that Alice rivers is a green seer to she could
05:46be physically manipulating Damon while he's at Harrenhal causing him to see specific visions
05:51or it could be another green seer giving him visions the important thing with Damon's visions
05:56is that he's not supposed to be able to have weirwood visions all by himself though that's
05:59why Simon strong for instance has lived at Harrenhal his whole life and hasn't been seen
06:04making weirwood visions like every single night.
06:05That's reason why he's not freaking out because Alice rivers joke that their previous maester
06:10freaked out for some quote unquote reason probably because he got a bunch of weirwood
06:13visions and couldn't handle and just took off based on the way the Helena's dragon dreams
06:18are supposed to work up to this point dragon dreams in general is that she should only
06:22be seeing stuff that happens in the future me that she's seeing the night King the white
06:26walkers Jon Snow Daenerys the raw the events of the second long night not the first long
06:30night like anything that happens after the present day of the show during dance the dragons
06:35the showrunner and the producers of the limiting factor balancing Helena's powers of foresight
06:40seeing the future like Cassandra style normally they make her way to OP if she could literally
06:44tell anybody on the greens everything is going to happen to them down to the day like you're
06:48gonna die on Thursday.
06:50So watch out on Thursday and we kind of see this the past couple seasons on the show is
06:54that Helena has no understanding of what she's actually seeing in her dragon dreams.
06:58She can't tell the difference between dragon dreams in regular dreams or even dreams in
07:03reality.
07:04So it's sort of like she's turning into the Internet and she's seeing everything that
07:07happens in the future kind of like brand during the original show, but has no actual search
07:11bar to search for specific things or find any context in what she seeing I made this
07:16joke in the past, but like brand turned into the Internet essentially is kind of the same
07:20phenomenon with brand, but he's seeing everything from the past Samwell had to be the one to
07:24come along to be the Google search bar to actually search for specific functions like
07:28can you actually search for information about Jon Snow's parents, Rhaegar Targaryen and
07:32Lyanna Stark.
07:33So brand because he had that information is like oh yeah, I do have that let's go check
07:36that out, but before that it was sort of like the sum total of all knowledge was uploaded
07:41into his mind and he said no way of actually searching through it was kind of a similar
07:45situation with Helena, but everything from the future not from the past.
07:50They've also said that a lot of the visions are also mixed together to so she seeing different
07:54visions on top of each other, which makes them even more confusing in most of her time
07:59is spent in this dreamlike state this dreamlike world sort of half reality imagine Daenerys
08:05in the house the undying during the original show walking through all her different visions
08:09they're saying that most of Helena's time is spent with her wandering around in visions
08:13kind of like these, which is why she always seems so confused.
08:17So the idea is that Helena seen all these futures for everyone.
08:20She knows that everybody's gonna die at some point because she seen everything in the future
08:23like hundreds of years later in the future, but she has no idea when it's going to happen
08:28only that these things will happen and because nobody on team green around her in the red
08:33keep is tuned into Valyrian history Targaryen history even Aemond seems like he's not really
08:38thinking about it that much when she spitting out all these prophecies and dragon dreams
08:43nobody is really tuned and they just think that it's all nonsense.
08:47It also kind of sounds like Aegon the conqueror kept his dragon dreams of the long night the
08:51white walkers secret for most people to maybe he told his sister wives based on what house
08:56the dragon show is implied.
08:57He probably told his sisters in addition to Aenys his heir because the prophecy was meant
09:01to be told between King in their following heirs and based on what we saw from Cregan
09:06Stark in season two episode one.
09:08It sounds like Aegon probably told Torrhen Stark the king in the north who bent the knee
09:13during the conquest because it sounds like Cregan Stark knew all about the white walkers
09:17winter is coming.
09:18So during his reign Aegon the conqueror probably made it a point to avoid keeping a lot of
09:23knowledge of dragon dreams from sitting around explaining why people in present day just
09:26aren't tuned into the idea that there are dragon dreams that people might be having
09:30out there like they are a thing that you should be clued in on just in case Viserys was the
09:34exception to this because he was already a super big history nerd compounded by the fact
09:40that when he sat the iron throne he got the prophecy Aegon's prophecy from King Jaehaerys.
09:45So he would have doubled down on a lot of the history that he was already studying in
09:48lore surrounding dragon dreams specifically really cool side detail.
09:52You actually see this in the behind the scenes.
09:54So the set decorators went way overboard during season one and season two.
09:58It looks fantastic like all the game of thrones house the dragon sets look fantastic.
10:02But during the events of season one in the background of Viserys's chambers the king's
10:06chambers before Aegon moved in during season two.
10:09There was this book that was open to a page detailing the history of Danys the dreamer
10:14having her dragon dream of the doom of Valyria the actual pages the book is open to here
10:19detail what happened on the exact day that she had that dragon dream.
10:22They even mention that she was Valyrian the black dreads first writer like zoom and enhance
10:27can we read the rest of this book like there's all this Valyrian history here.
10:31Hopefully they'll cover the rest of this on one of the shows either like the prequel shows
10:34if we do an ancient Valyria show or like the Aegon the conquest series.
10:38But the idea is that Viserys was clearly studying the whole concept of dragon dreams
10:42and trying to figure out how they work.
10:44So I think that's one of the reasons why Helene was probably his favorite just because he
10:47kind of sensed maybe a little bit what was going on with her.
10:50But it sounds like he himself never actually had dragon dreams just like green seers having
10:55the ability to dragon dream inside the Targaryen family was also super rare.
11:00So Helene is probably meant to be the first person we know of inside their family since
11:04Aegon the conqueror who actually had dragon dreams, but in the clip I put at the beginning
11:08of this.
11:09It goes way beyond Helene just casually dropping hints about the dance of the dragons and what's
11:13happening right now.
11:14Like in the next couple of years her prophecy about the spider and season one really good
11:17example about one that was specifically about the events of the dance of the dragons during
11:22the clip I put at the beginning of this video.
11:24She's talking about the grand story that whoever this person she's talking to is but one part
11:28of she's basically reading them the rest of the song of ice and fire novels and the rest
11:32of the fire and blood book detailing the future history of the Targaryen family like
11:36all this stuff is going to happen and yours a small chapter in it, but on the show one
11:42of the ways it seems like they started to change how these work the dragon dreams is
11:45to connect dragon dreams to weirwood visions like the ones Damon is having that might just
11:50be for casuals though who find a lot of the magic based plot the visions inside house
11:55the dragon game of thrones to be really really confusing.
11:58They're kind of meant to be confusing though one of the big problems with prophecy the
12:02George R. R. Martin has said is a big thing throughout a song of ice and fire is the people
12:06always misinterpreted usually with terrible terrible consequences.
12:11They're kind of getting into this on the show right now with Rhaenyra drinking and pouring
12:15the Kool-Aid like she starting to believe more in the prophecy of it all divine right
12:19like her actual power as a dragon writer will talk about this more during my finale video
12:24soon and then during season three because I think it'll be a big part of her arc on
12:27the show going forward, but I think the show is trying to keep things as simple as possible
12:32the way that everything works all these different types of magic so that you can see Helena
12:36witnessing things from the past and the future when really that's not how dragon dreams is
12:40supposed to work and you can also see her dragon dreams crossing over with the weirwood
12:44visions when really that's not meant to be the way they're supposed to happen the been
12:48a lot of theories going back to when the books first started being published about how these
12:51different types of magic work in the game of thrones universe like a blood magic that
12:55was practiced by the valyrians it's how they created dragon bonding in the first place
13:00there's green seer powers the magic of the children the force which is basically like
13:03the magic of the old gods the show is already revealed that the white walkers the night
13:08kings magic are the exact same as their magic because the children of the force literally
13:12created the white walkers with their magic you also have warging there's elemental magic
13:17light and shadow magic like the magic of the red god glass candles Melisandre creating
13:21all those shadow babies there love subclasses of magic, but they all sort of fit into a
13:26couple major types.
13:27I think what the show has done during the original series to a certain degree in more
13:31so on house the dragon is say that everybody is drawing on similar types of power the same
13:36power which is doing so in different ways really good example this to is the dragons
13:41according to George RR Martin are creatures of magic like actual magic, but I think they're
13:46simplifying all this so that they can explain why you can see for instance Helena's dragon
13:51dreams and we're would visions overlapping with each other usually happens though when
13:55you see weird stuff like that is that the producers and the show owners have to clarify
13:58specific details and what their intent is because sometimes visions like Helena's can
14:03mean a hundred different things, but they were using them for very specific reason in
14:07different episodes in the case of the clip I put at the beginning of this which is talking
14:11about her grand story though it's meant to be more about the prophecy the long night
14:14I did a completely separate video about Damon's weirwood vision specifically and how they're
14:18all tied to the prophecy the prince was promised the white walkers the long night to you can
14:23kind of see how house the dragon is bringing everything back around referencing Aegon's
14:27prophecy the long night the white walkers the prophecy the prince was promised over
14:32and over again in a probably come an even bigger thing in future seasons.
14:36The reason why they're doing that is to provide some connective tissue between all these different
14:40prequels and spinoffs in the original main show that everything feels like it's connected
14:44into an overarching story.
14:46The story of a song of ice and fire dot dot dot there lot of changes they make along the
14:51way though like reinterpreting things from the books is a little bit easier to do with
14:54the stuff they're adapting for house the dragon because the way the book was written is open
14:58to interpretation like it's one maesters opinion of things that happen in the past done so
15:03in third party.
15:04It's not like the original a song of ice and fire novels when you're getting people's perspective
15:08from inside their heads and usually when the showrunner is changing plot details from the
15:13original books for this current show for house the dragon.
15:16He did say the usually run stuff by George RR Martin who will either okay or put the
15:20kibosh on different things like we make Helena's dragon dreams work a little bit this way can
15:25we make her live a little bit longer so that she can give us some more dragon dreams into
15:29like season two season three.
15:31I am sure we're gonna get a boatload of more Helena dragon dreams on the show while she's
15:35still on the show however many seasons she stays around totally in favor of them extending
15:40her life span so that you can just be around just casually drop these little bits of information
15:44when nobody's actually listening to her early this year I did a separate video about all
15:49the specific things the events the people that Helena have seen her dragon dreams that
15:53they revealed on the show so far like she seen everything, but they've only revealed
15:57part of the things that she's seen thankfully though she graffitied all of it all over the
16:02walls of the Queens chambers where she's been living now and in the books that she has really
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