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During a White House press briefing on Thursday, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan was asked about the major prisoner swap with Russia.

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00:00Can you explain a bit more, when did it become clear that Krasnikov was this lynchpin to
00:05a deal like this, and was it during the negotiations over Brittney Greiner?
00:11When you're engaged in a negotiation and one side lays down a position, there's not like
00:16a lightbulb moment when you say, okay, that position is immovable.
00:20That has to be tested, and alternatives have to be suggested, and proposals get put on
00:26the table and rejected, and new proposals and rejected, so it is less of a aha moment,
00:34okay, now we know, and it's more something that you accumulate through the experience
00:40of the negotiation.
00:41And so over the course of this negotiation, we did reach the conclusion that Krasnikov
00:46was a key.
00:47You've discussed, obviously, the President's involvement, direct involvement in all of
00:51this.
00:52Can you talk us through any involvement that the Vice President had?
00:54Was she also speaking directly to other leaders and allies?
00:58So as I said in my opening comments, both President Biden and Vice President Harris
01:04have made the return of unjustly detained Americans hostage, American hostages, an absolute
01:11priority.
01:12And in this particular case, Vice President Harris actually had an opportunity to engage
01:17with Chancellor Schultz earlier this year at an opportune and timely moment at the Munich
01:22Security Conference, where she talked about this issue with him.
01:26That followed on a conversation that the President had just a short time before that, and it
01:31was in the run of high-level engagements and a back-and-forth that the President and the
01:36Chancellor were having that Vice President Harris was actually able to sit face-to-face
01:40with Chancellor Schultz and talk through the elements of this.
01:45And then I've sat in the Oval Office more times than I can count over the course of
01:49the past years, providing briefings and updates on this and getting peppered with questions
01:54by both the President and the Vice President, thinking through the strategy, iterating the
01:59approach, which she was a participant in very much, a core member of the team that helped
02:05make this happen.

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