Off The Record | Kashif Abbasi | ARY News | 30th July 2024

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- Kashif Abbasi

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- Zartaj Gul PTI
- Dr Tariq Fazal Chaudhary PMLN
- Sarwar Bari (PIDE)

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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, you are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi.
00:15Today, Bani PTA has again proposed another negotiation with Mr. Imran Khan.
00:20I am ready to negotiate with the army.
00:23Today, Mr. Imran Khan spoke to the journalists in the court.
00:26He said that the army should appoint a representative.
00:29We are ready to negotiate.
00:31He also said that we have never accused the army.
00:35We have only criticized it.
00:37He wanted to say that Mir Jafar, Mir Sadiq, conspiring is not an accusation.
00:42It is just a criticism.
00:44Mr. Imran Khan also said that if there is a spoiled child in the house, it is criticized.
00:49The army has also been called a spoiled child in the house.
00:52These are spoiled children and they have criticized it.
00:55He also said about the past of the army.
00:59He said that we should not be taught that the army has never made a mistake.
01:02Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto Sahib's martyrdom and hanging him.
01:05He said that Zia-ul-Haq was behind this.
01:07Yaya Khan was behind the silence of Dhaka.
01:10Then he mentioned SIFC and Mohsin Nafi.
01:13He said that we have given a mandate to Mehmood Khan Achakzai.
01:18But there was no answer from the other side.
01:20Another accusation he put on Maryam Nawaz Sharif that she is a fascist.
01:26Of course, there was a lot of debate when Imran Khan was in power.
01:30Now he said that if it is said that she is also a victim of fascism.
01:35He also accused that a lot of oppression has been done on PTI.
01:40Now let me introduce the guests first.
01:43Dr. Tarek Fazal Chauhan is present with us. Thank you very much.
01:45Mr. Zartaj Gul is present with us.
01:47He is a parliamentary leader in the National Assembly of Pakistan.
01:50Thank you both very much.
01:51But before I ask you, what terms do you want to negotiate?
01:55With whom do you want to negotiate?
01:57Your fight was against the establishment.
01:59Your fight is for the constitution.
02:01It is for the upholding of the constitution.
02:03In the last 4-5 days, from July 25, you have given a series of statements.
02:10On July 25, Mr. Maryam said that Imran Khan's message is that the government wants to bring the PTI army face to face.
02:19We and the army chief will not let this happen.
02:21On July 26, Ms. Aleema Khan said that Imran Khan's message to the army chief is to be neutral for the country.
02:28In which you used to say that neutrality is an animal.
02:31Can a watchman ever be neutral?
02:33Can Titor and Bater be neutral?
02:35That is also a detailed explanation of your neutrality.
02:38Yesterday, Imran Khan spoke to the journalists in the jail.
02:41He said that neutrality is not an animal, it is a non-political animal.
02:44And today, you are talking about negotiations.
02:49This is the army chief whom you repeatedly call the king of the jungle in your tweets.
02:54You said that there is a law of the jungle in this country.
02:56This is the king of the jungle who wants to destroy the army chief, me, my wife and my party.
03:05Do you want to make fun of the king of the jungle in the law of the jungle?
03:10Thank you, Kashif. Thank you for inviting me.
03:12First of all, let me make a little background.
03:14People's memory may not be so weak, but some people's memory is a little weak.
03:19So, the memory is that since this regime has been changed, from then till now,
03:25till 9th May, after 9th May, till now,
03:27Imran Khan is the only leader in Pakistan's politics with whom the most oppression was forced.
03:33Even against his wife, all the cases were made just to break Imran Khan.
03:37His second tier leadership, his employees, even the four walls of the house were demolished.
03:43Our men were picked up in front of ARO's office.
03:45Secondary proposals were picked up.
03:47I just want to tell you the background.
03:48Let me tell you the background better than you.
03:50I have done a lot of injustice to you.
03:52You said that these people are doing all this.
03:54You said that the establishment is against us.
03:56What has been happening for the past five days?
03:58Now, what has happened?
04:00Suddenly, a change of heart.
04:02You can see it in your heart.
04:04You are sending such good messages.
04:06We want to have this fight between us.
04:09They don't want us to fight with the army.
04:11You are saying this.
04:12He is the king of the jungle.
04:13This is the law of the jungle.
04:14Now, listen to me again.
04:16I just need a minute.
04:18So, more than 200 marks were given to us.
04:20The symbol of our party was snatched.
04:22Our party was finished.
04:24We tried.
04:25Every oppression was forced against us.
04:27We couldn't break it.
04:28We took the biggest vote.
04:29Three crore votes were given to us in the name of Imran Khan.
04:31200 different marks were given to us.
04:33For whom?
04:34To make them win.
04:35To make the party of 17 seats win.
04:37They made us sit on our heads to insult our heads.
04:40Our mandate was stolen.
04:42The power of the vote was stolen.
04:45Who did all this?
04:46I will tell you now.
04:47Beneficiary.
04:48I will tell you now.
04:49No, no, no.
04:50First tell me who is responsible.
04:51Then we will talk about the beneficiary.
04:53Absolutely.
04:54You are saying this.
04:55First tell me my case.
04:56Tell me the case.
04:57Who is responsible?
04:58First tell me.
04:59When all this oppression was done against us,
05:01then the whole system,
05:03in which all the bureaucrats were included,
05:06all the organizations were included,
05:08all the supervisory governments were included,
05:10and those supervisory governments,
05:11who were someone's sidekicks,
05:13some were doing oppression on women
05:15so that only Pakistan could end your justice.
05:18That beneficiary,
05:19who is now the interior minister,
05:22all those supervisors,
05:24who did oppression after the regime change,
05:26to give weight to their government,
05:28all those supervisors were included.
05:30You know that you are not able to say those words.
05:32I will tell you now.
05:33No, no, no.
05:34You have kept that question.
05:35I will tell you now.
05:36You say that the establishment did it.
05:37No, no.
05:38They stole our election.
05:39They did it.
05:40I will tell you now.
05:41Now you are saying that this is responsible for all this.
05:42Absolutely.
05:43I will tell you now.
05:44We will ask them.
05:45Can any politician,
05:46can any political party with 18 seats,
05:48can do this on their own?
05:50You answer this first.
05:51No, I can't.
05:52Now I am saying that when we ask PMLN,
05:55when we ask PDM,
05:56What happened in the last 5 days?
05:58I am asking you this.
05:59Oh, Kashif Khan.
06:00Either I am a Pathan or you are a Pathan.
06:03Or both can be.
06:04Both can be.
06:05So, just listen to me.
06:07We ask them from PDM,
06:09that in 45 days,
06:11where did you take the loan of 3,231 billion?
06:15Where did you use it?
06:16We ask them that
06:17Yes.
06:18Mr. Imran Khan asked this today as well.
06:20I am asking you this.
06:21I am asking you Mr. Imran Khan's question.
06:23You are not answering my question.
06:25You are not answering.
06:26You will have to listen to what she wants to say.
06:28You will have to listen to what she wants to say.
06:29We are used to listening to her.
06:31She is answering directly.
06:32Kashif is not like that.
06:33Kashif is not like that.
06:34There is nothing black and white.
06:36There are so many grey areas.
06:37I want to answer your question directly.
06:40But there is no grey area in Amal Dharamaj.
06:43It is black or white.
06:44It is black or white.
06:45The country is running as per the constitution or not?
06:47The country is not running as per the constitution.
06:49What grey area is there in this?
06:51So, I am saying,
06:52listen to me completely,
06:53when all the system beneficiaries,
06:55when PMLN was made,
06:57when the impression was given,
06:58we ask them,
06:59that you are doing illegal work against us in Punjab,
07:02they say, no, you did it.
07:03We say,
07:04that you are not protesting against us,
07:06they say,
07:07you have done martyrdom without permission.
07:08We say,
07:09that there is inflation in the country,
07:10they say,
07:11DJI, SPR, you have said this.
07:12We want to tell you,
07:13that PDM,
07:14PMLN,
07:15is hiding behind Komi institutions again and again.
07:19They are hiding behind your journal.
07:21They are hiding behind DJI, SPR conference.
07:24If you want to deal,
07:25then tell us directly.
07:26No, no, no.
07:27There is no deal.
07:28There is engagement.
07:29PMLN is giving the impression to the people of Pakistan,
07:32that whatever black deeds we are doing,
07:35whether it is inflation in the country,
07:36whether the country is not running as per the constitution,
07:38whether we steal mandates,
07:40behind our shoulders,
07:41they are trying to say,
07:42that these are Komi institutions,
07:43in which there is intelligence agency,
07:45in which there is army.
07:46What happened in the last 5 days?
07:47To expose that impression.
07:48Just tell me,
07:49in the last 5 days,
07:50from 25th to 26th,
07:51so many sweet statements,
07:52so many good things,
07:53you are our brother,
07:54you are a spoiled child,
07:55I don't know if you said it in a strong way,
07:56or in a cute way,
07:57but you said it.
07:58Kashif,
07:59simple,
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