"Kisi or mulk mai foji tanseebat par hamla ho tou waha jald muqadmat nimtaye jate hain," Sherry
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00:00Do you share the same concern or are you aware of the basis of such concerns?
00:26Yes, thank you. First of all, all concerns in any coalition are shared with each other.
00:36If someone talks about it on the media, it's okay. Obviously, a person takes notice.
00:42But to an extent, we will comment on it because it's not my job to comment on their media position.
00:50But these are serious matters. You have not said anything small.
00:55And they have no blind eye to anything that we should not focus on.
01:02So, all the positions of the People's Party are thoughtfully discussed in a collective forum.
01:11And we have always understood that in the country, at least, this is not an alarmist thing,
01:20it's not a cliché, but we should also think about the people.
01:24They have an eye on us. They are seeing that their problems, especially economic problems,
01:31who is ending them? Who is forcing them to compensate?
01:36So, I think this is also a problem. And for this, we have to bring political stability in the country.
01:45To bring political stability, we should sit together and think about how we can move forward in this environment.
01:54Mahazarai, wherever it is, in any small company, you know that the country is a big enterprise,
02:02and whatever happens, it continues to run. But to run like this, and the environment of Mahazarai,
02:08which the opposition has also set up at the moment, that is, they do it for four hours.
02:15What do they do? They fast, they fast.
02:20What is a four-hour hunger strike and what is a hunger strike?
02:24Yes, a lot of things are in the court, a lot of things will come in front of the people,
02:30they are in the parliament. We should all have courage.
02:35I am not saying this to the opposition, we should all have courage.
02:39And if we have to give space to each other, which is always a concern of the People's Party,
02:48but in this, it should not be that there is open freedom and you do whatever you want,
02:55then revise it in the morning and present it in a new dress.
02:59You talked about a new dress. Yesterday, very surprising statements came from the PTI leaders.
03:05Mr. Umar Ayub, of course, had a conversation. He says that this is actually the Shahbaz government
03:11who is facing the PTI army and we will make their regime a failure.
03:16Then he says that the PTI has given a message to the people that they should prepare for the election.
03:21Okay, you tell me.
03:23What is their belief behind this?
03:26Yes, yes, I do not understand that, well, they have understood,
03:30but the regret is that the fundamental pillar of democratic politics,
03:37that is, tolerance for each other.
03:43They have tried to remove tolerance from their political society.
03:49They say that if we are, then it is fine, if I am the king, then everything is fine.
03:54If I am not, then that election is also not right, nothing is right.
03:58And look, the 2018 election seemed completely wrong to us.
04:02Look, we have to think about the country as well.
04:06You will say that we fight every war for ourselves, and everyone else is pissed off,
04:12so this is not right.
04:14But their thought is that we fight every war, fight for ourselves,
04:18and until we are in power, then in power, what do we feed them?
04:22This is also a scary scene for people, what they do.
04:30Then they have to repair it for decades.
04:34The real economic crisis that they want to make political,
04:40because they are not in power at the moment, it is a simple thing.
04:43Their thing is that we should be open, we should be above the law,
04:49and no matter how much injustice we do, our name should be on the list.
04:53And Mr. Sherry?
04:55Yes, yes.
04:56So you are saying about 9th May that we know,
04:59we had said about peaceful march, peaceful protest.
05:05Look, don't teach me peaceful protest politics.
05:08People's Party has been protesting peacefully since centuries,
05:12I mean, since generations.
05:14And a pot does not fall, a leaf does not burst.
05:18How do you protest?
05:20You even have violence in your tongue.
05:22You weaponize it in politics every day.
05:25You say that a reporter has been harassed.
05:29Okay, she was a reporter of an opposing channel,
05:32she was a reporter of an independent channel,
05:34she did not report on their will, so that's fine.
05:37Then it's okay, clap more.
05:39So what do you say about this party?
05:41And I don't want to say about everyone.
05:43They think that they don't have to follow the rules or regulations.
05:48No matter what they do, break it,
05:51no matter where you do it in the world,
05:54if you have a military attack,
05:58and if you have an attack on your soldiers and veterans,
06:01then you see how quickly the cases come to the court.
06:06So these things, they…
06:10Okay, Mr. Sherry, tell me one more thing,
06:12which I wanted to know,
06:14basically on one side, you remember the press conference
06:17DG ISI and DG SPR did,
06:20and they made it clear that the army has nothing to do with politics,
06:25and later the army chief, Mr. Bajwa, also said that
06:28we'll stay apolitical and after that our role will not be in politics.
06:32Now, here, under their own interest,
06:35the political parties themselves start calling out
06:38that the Shahbaz government wants to fight the army,
06:41a message in the name of the army chief, etc.
06:43And later they complain again that
06:45there is a lock-down or something like that.
06:48So, why is there so much contradiction in our thinking,
06:51in our rhetoric, in terms of our interests?
06:53Yes, exactly, this is what is doing injustice to the country.
06:56I have been saying for days that
06:58the space of democracy has been shrunk by the justice movement.
07:01And they call out,
07:03then they say that we should get involved in politics,
07:06then they say that we are being pushed,
07:08they call out, they shrink the space
07:11so that an atmosphere like this is created.
07:14Do you remember how they have spent their last period,
07:18and how they have spent their own period?
07:21Now, all those who were their supporters,
07:24they are now cursing them,
07:27there are daily protests.
07:29So, look at their political party,
07:32their chairman is not registered,
07:34the ACP is saying that your elections have not been held,
07:37they don't know who to correspond with, etc.
07:40If we had done this,
07:42then we would have been completely out.
07:44But it is not that there is an uproar,
07:46it has never happened.
07:47For so many years, the People's Party has been out everywhere.
07:50So, has there been any uproar,
07:52that no, if we are there, then everything is there,
07:54and my way or the highway.
07:56So, look, this is their way,
07:59and they are ready to do anything.
08:01It's a simple thing.
08:02You said that they invite,
08:04and challenge the Shahbaz government.
08:07It's a ridiculous thing.
08:09Why would we put someone in contradiction?
08:11They abuse us,
08:13they say something in the morning,
08:14and something in the evening.
08:15Mr. Shahri, one last thing.
08:16And then they say that we didn't say this.
08:19This is the era of videos and media.
08:23They say that we didn't say this.
08:25But what is the reading of the People's Party?
08:27Rana Sanaullah is also saying that
08:29the PTI is going to do something,
08:31we have to be alert.
08:32Something can happen in November.
08:34Look at Khawaja Asif's statement,
08:35look at Fitch's report.
08:37Do you also have such an understanding?
08:39Mr. Shahri, what is this confidence that
08:41the PTI is saying to prepare for the elections in November
08:43and the elections in December?
08:45And do you think that their confidence
08:47and the source of their fear is the same?
08:49Yes, look, this is such an environment.
08:54They want, first of all,
08:56to create an environment of disbelief.
08:58And disbelief at this time,
09:00I am sorry,
09:01it is very bad for the country.
09:03And if that disbelief continues,
09:08and the roads are closed,
09:10and you see people are not able to commute.
09:12Do you remember how many protests they had
09:15during the last Nawaz Sharif?
09:17And what was the situation?
09:19The Chinese Prime Minister is coming,
09:21and he cried, I mean, by protesting.
09:23So they want to show their power
09:25to paralyze Pakistan.
09:27I don't think any sitting government
09:29should be allowed to do that.
09:31It should not happen that someone paralyzes.
09:34Because they are in a fog,
09:36they are walking on a line,
09:38and they are walking on a dangerous road.
09:41As far as you are saying,
09:43what do we think?
09:45We have sacrificed many times
09:47that if we are not there,
09:49then let the country become stable.
09:51Everyone has the power,
09:53if the people understand the issue.
09:56These choices are of the people.
09:58At this time, they are misguiding the people.
10:00In the era of social media,
10:02they are handling the work
10:04of the people.
10:06And they are working on that.
10:08They are brainwashing
10:10a whole new generation.
10:12That if we are there,
10:14this has never happened in Pakistan.
10:16Now you think,
10:18what has not happened with the People's Party?
10:20At that time, there was no social media.
10:22You see,
10:24they are on the throne,
10:26but no one has ever
10:28tried to burn the shadows.
10:30This has never happened.
10:32His daughter has come back.
10:34She was martyred.
10:36She did not let anyone
10:38burn the shadows.
10:40There were long marches.
10:42Everything happened,
10:44even in his era.
10:46This is their simple view.
10:48Okay.
10:50Thank you so much, Sherry Rehman.
10:52We had a detailed discussion with you.
10:54The Rehnauma People's Party was with us.