On "Forbes Newsroom," journalist Kelli Goff spoke about Vice President Kamala Harris's high staff turnover.
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00:00Kelly, I'm glad you brought up the staff turnover.
00:02There have been reports this week
00:03that put that number just in the VP office at a 90% turnover.
00:08I remember the headlines from when
00:09she ran as a candidate herself in the 2020 election.
00:13There were reports of staff turnover then.
00:15You mentioned the attorney general.
00:16How big a factor is this?
00:18And what does it tell you about her leadership style?
00:21Well, here's the problem.
00:22So there are male candidates, I want
00:24to be clear, who've had high staff turnover too.
00:26I think the problem is I equate it
00:28to the Dan Quayle phenomenon, which
00:32is Dan Quayle was ridiculed as sort
00:34of the good-looking, intellectual lightweight who
00:37was picked because he was young and attractive
00:39and kind of balanced out President Bush's ticket.
00:42So there was already this built-in stereotype.
00:45So that way, when he misspelled potato,
00:48which we'll all recall at the elementary school,
00:50it played into what was already a negative stereotype held
00:53by many, which is that this guy's not very bright.
00:56Now, if Bill Clinton, who'd been a Rhodes Scholar,
00:57misspelled potato, it would just be a hilarious story
01:00that people would say, even a Rhodes Scholar misspells
01:03potato once in a while, right?
01:05I think the problem with Vice President Harris,
01:07if you already have these built-in question marks
01:09about her likability, and then people see the staff turnover
01:13numbers, it plays into that.
01:16Whether that's right or wrong, it plays into that.
01:18Because at the end of the day, regardless
01:20of why a staff member leaves, you chose them.
01:24So if it didn't work out, there has to be a reason.
01:26It's sort of like all of us who have the friends
01:28who keep going through messy breakups.
01:30And at a certain point, you go, the guys may all be jerks,
01:32but you keep choosing them, right?
01:34So that's what I think is really kind of the problem for her.
01:39You asked about her strength.
01:40I mean, obviously, with Roe v. Wade
01:43having essentially been neutered,
01:45and that's something, obviously, I care a lot about.
01:48I made the film, Reversing Roe,
01:49which is on the history of abortion,
01:51legal cases throughout America,
01:53particularly in the courts.
01:55But I think that's one of the issues
01:57that they have seen as one of her strengths, right?
02:00She can get on the campaign trail and talk about that.
02:03But again, it kind of becomes a chicken or the egg,
02:05which is if you don't have the leadership style
02:07that can actually sustain the strategic battles, right,
02:11needed to implement policy or challenge policy,
02:15I think that it gives certain voters pause.