"In logo ke hote huay tou hum election commission se khair ki tawaqa nahi karsakte," Barrister Saif
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00:00And this statement of Khwaja Asif, from yesterday to today, there is a lot of debate about it.
00:09What is the matter?
00:10Because they are saying that a request will be made in October regarding the abrogation of the election.
00:15And then we will defend that.
00:18We will try to defend ourselves on that matter.
00:20So what is your point of view on this?
00:23Is there really any such argument being heard?
00:28Look, Khwaja Asif's statements are a waste of time in my opinion.
00:35First of all, he has been kept there because the purpose of his presence in the cabinet is
00:42only and only to trouble the Shahbaz government and to put a foot on Shahbaz Sharif's neck.
00:50And he has a connection with Nawaz Sharif's group.
00:53So, Barrister Sahib, but the context of this is that Fitch's report.
00:59He is also talking about the same thing.
01:01The government will run for 18 months.
01:03If it does not happen, then there will be no elections.
01:05A new technocrat government will come.
01:07So, he is more or less talking about the Fitch's report.
01:10So, will you negate that too?
01:11No, I am not talking about negating any report.
01:14I am just spoiling their talk irresponsibly.
01:17Because they create a political upheaval by giving such controversial statements.
01:22Their purpose is nothing.
01:23This is called diversionary tactics and they are doing the same.
01:25Now, the election is left.
01:27So, I think the demand for elections is of every party in Pakistan.
01:31Everyone is saying that the elections that took place on 8th February were managed.
01:36They were manipulated and the results are based on the actual vote.
01:42So, everyone is objecting to their transparency.
01:45I mean to say that all the opposition parties across the board are saying that this is wrong.
01:51And the government's own parties also know that if they are in power today,
01:56then they are sitting in a wrong way.
01:58They are sitting through JLE Form 47.
02:00And the biggest partner in this is the Election Commission of Pakistan.
02:05And our demand is also that the Chief Election Commissioner and his members should act against all of them.
02:14And their action should start from the government.
02:17Mr. Barrister, I wanted to know one thing from you.
02:20Let's assume that the Election Commission takes action against them.
02:25Let's assume that all the members, including the Chief Election Commissioner, are removed.
02:30And you know that they are elected in a regular manner.
02:33The Leader of the Opposition and then the Prime Minister himself conduct the elections in this way.
02:40Now, even if they are removed, it means that the new Chief Election Commissioner or the new members
02:47will have a lot of confidence in them and they will speak the truth.
02:52In your opinion?
02:53Look, when the head of an institution or an important officer of an institution commits a theft or corruption,
03:00then not only that officer is not removed from the job,
03:03but the corruption that he has committed, after thorough investigation,
03:09not only the stolen goods are recovered, but after that, SOPs are made.
03:16That the next method will be this.
03:19The meaning of investigation is to remove an individual.
03:22In a civilized society.
03:23But when has this happened here till date?
03:26No, it hasn't happened.
03:27We can't say that we are in a non-civilized society,
03:30it is permissible for us.
03:31It should not be the case in other subjects.
03:33I understand that it is the fundamental duty and right of the people living in every society
03:38that they get a government like this, which does all these actions and brings transparency.
03:43Now, when we talk against the Election Commission,
03:46not only the Chief Election Commissioner should not be sent home,
03:48and he should not be sent back with pension and compensation.
03:51Rather, by conducting an investigation against him,
03:53whatever he has done wrong, should be punished.
03:56And besides that, such SOPs should be arranged.
03:59It should be arranged in such a way that the next person does not get this opportunity
04:03to talk about such things.
04:05What he has done.
04:06Look, he has destroyed generations.
04:08Look at the magnitude of the matter.
04:10He has done injustice to Pakistan that even our worst enemies may not do.
04:14Because he has stolen the public mandate.
04:16He has been against the constitution.
04:17And he has played an active role in stealing the public mandate.
04:20But at this time, obviously, in the Election Commission,
04:23The action to be taken against your SOPs will be through the Election Commission.
04:28The decision of the Supreme Court.
04:30So, what is your status on this?
04:33You are criticizing so much earlier,
04:35but the Election Commission has to carry out the action.
04:37So, we are telling the Election Commission to be fair.
04:40If this filth is removed, then whatever the Election Commission does will be right,
04:43and the public will be satisfied.
04:45With these people around, we cannot expect anything from the Election Commission.
04:49And it is not just the Chief Election Commissioner,
04:51there are four members who have signed the decision.
04:56This is also a criminal offence.
04:58Now, what is left is the matter of your elections.
05:01So, this is the demand of the public,
05:03and this is also the demand of our constitutional justice.
05:05Elections should be held on 9th.
05:07Elections should be held under the properly constituted Election Commission.
05:11There is no news that there will be elections.
05:13There will be a technocrat set-up.
05:15Faisal Wada also talks about this.
05:17Fitch also talked about this.
05:18Faisal Wada also talked about this.
05:19Fitch also talked about this.
05:20So, when this system will be put in place,
05:22then of course, you, the political parties,
05:24will be a part of the Parliament.
05:26Look, if anyone wants to make decisions on the predictions of Faisal Wada and Fajr Asif,
05:32and if they want to make decisions on the government of their predecessors,
05:35then Allah is the protector.
05:37Then, I think, both of you should catch a flight.
05:39Immediately talk to Pakistan, and I will also catch a flight.
05:41There is no need to breathe so much.
05:43But, if there is any faith and hope in Allah,
05:46and if there are any options for the future of this nation,
05:52then it is required that new elections should be held,
05:55and a new, democratically elected set-up should be given to the government.
06:00One last thing, Mr. Barrister Saif.
06:02You will change the Election Commission.
06:04But, you remember the case of electoral reforms,
06:09where it was said that there will be a lot of work,
06:11and nothing could be done about it.
06:13At the end of the day, this is what we are discussing.
06:16There was no transparency.
06:18The case of EVMs was in its place.
06:20But, in any case, the objections are raised at the end.
06:23This is not just about your party.
06:25Today, you are talking about Form 45, 47.
06:27Tomorrow, some other party will do it.
06:29So, first, make sure that this action is transparent,
06:32so that everyone trusts it.
06:34Reforms should be done, so that after that, elections can be held.
06:37But, the thing is,
06:39if you read the first page of your constitution,
06:42which is the Objective Resolution,
06:44and which has been made a part of Article 2A,
06:46it says that the government,
06:48and the decisions that you have made,
06:50making transparency,
06:52making electoral reforms,
06:54why should all of this be done?
06:56All of this should be done by elected representatives of the people,
06:59who are representatives of the people,
07:01but who have been elected.
07:03Now, if your constitution is telling you a way,
07:05and you are not following it,
07:07then nothing can be done.
07:09Then, you have already decided to die a national death.
07:12But, if I say that,
07:14if elected people come in this way,
07:16the election commission will be transparent,
07:18then only, things will move forward,
07:20and only then, there can be hope for improvement.
07:22Barrister Saif was with us.
07:24We were learning about the PTI.
07:26Thank you so much.