" Pakistan Ke Apne Masail Hain, Yeh Parwah Nahi Honi Chahiye Ke Modi Kya Kere Ga. ." Mosharraf Zaidi
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00:00Modi has become the Prime Minister for the third time, he has become a weak Prime Minister before, but he has become the Prime Minister for the third time, what does this mean for Pakistan?
00:09First of all, I think all the issues related to Pakistan and the issues that you mentioned about our democratic system, all the issues are related to that.
00:25Pakistan has so many issues that Pakistanis should not worry about what Narendra Modi will do.
00:32But because Narendra Modi is the Prime Minister who has repeatedly attacked Pakistan, not only was he attacked, but in this election process, Pakistan was repeatedly used.
00:45His party did it, his leaders did it, and especially he did it.
00:50In that, sometimes he used taunts, sometimes he mentioned Pakistan while taking support of his hateful politics.
00:58And along with Pakistan, India's great and I think the world's great Muslim population, perhaps the top of the list is the Muslims of India.
01:10And even better and more important than that is the character of Kashmiri Muslims, who neither call themselves Indians nor want to be a part of India.
01:22So because he talked so much about these things, we should definitely remember that in 2019, the Modi government attacked Pakistan before the election to win the election.
01:34So is there such an election that even after winning, it seems that they have lost?
01:39So what will be their reaction now?
01:41Pakistanis should keep a close eye on this and especially the security institutions and governments of Pakistan.
01:49So this is a very humbling experience for the current PM Modi.
01:53Let me quickly show you and tell our viewers that when Modi was giving different interviews, he had a God complex.
01:59He repeatedly said to different reporters and anchors that someone has sent him, that someone has chosen him.
02:07His God has made Modi a means for all the work that is happening in India through him.
02:16Let me show you what he thought about this God complex.
02:19So before the election, Narendra Modi used to say that he is the chosen one of God.
02:24And after the election, when the vote came out, people made him so humble.
02:28They showed him so much dignity that after that, his image has come out where he is kissing the Constitution of India and bowing his head in front of it.
02:36So this is the power that he has.
02:38The journey from there to here is the victory of the voters.
02:42They have not yet completely defeated a fascist approach, but they are still far behind.
02:49So a relatively weak Modi, if he is strong, then bolder steps are taken.
02:56So does this mean that they will be very compromised?
02:59Or do you think that now that there is a pushback in the country, their stance will be soft or more aggressive?
03:06Look, rationally, what we understand is that they were defeated in this election.
03:14They did not get 400 seats, they did not get 370 seats, they did not even get 303 seats last time.
03:18So maybe they should learn a lesson from this and build a bridge.
03:23But the problem is, and this is also true in Pakistan, that our democracy is not that powerful and is very weak.
03:30But we also have some democratic signs and indications.
03:36Populist leadership is everywhere in the world.
03:39So when you push it into a corner, and all the references I give will be less.
03:47Let's take Trump's example.
03:49You must have understood that when we push someone into a corner, does he agree to talk to the wall?
03:57Or does he turn around and slap us?
04:00So what we have seen in Pakistan, and what is happening even today,
04:04is that the person we have pushed into a corner is becoming more aggressive.
04:07All the examples of foreign leaders are becoming more aggressive.
04:12The problem is, where can we find that aggression?
04:17We will not be able to find it on our coalition partners.
04:20If we find it on the opposition, then the coalition partners will put pressure on them.
04:24China is an option because India, at least India wants to show America that it is very angry with China.
04:30And it will face China together with America.
04:33But when you compare it and examine it,
04:38you will find that with China, the trade with China has increased in the last 10 years.
04:45It has not increased in any other country in the world.
04:48So again, India's Muslims, India's Christians, India's Sikhs, Kashmir and Pakistan,
04:56which are easy targets for the Modi government,
04:59and in which other parties have also joined with them.
05:03Other parties, like Arvind Kejriwal,
05:06who has not said anything on minority rights in the last 10 years,
05:10although there were a lot of expectations.
05:12Similarly, Chandra Babu Naidu is with them.
05:14If there is any special injustice being done to Muslims.
05:17And as far as Pakistan is concerned,
05:19there will be a big difference between Congress and BJP in India.
05:23But it should be remembered that Congress shows that in 1971,
05:26the Congress leader partitioned Pakistan.
05:30But the priorities are different.
05:31Congress and other parties have an inward-looking approach.
05:33We are still seeing that the opposition is on procedural.
05:36They said, find out who did this stock exchange scam.
05:40Find out the whole case of funding.
05:42So will there be an inward approach or an outward approach?
05:44I think it will be a matter of time.
05:49I don't think it is necessary that they will take an outward approach.
05:52But if the pressure on the inward is very high,
05:55then again, in every populist regime,
05:58when you come under internal pressure,
06:00then you start taking risks.
06:02Look at Trump.
06:03Look at Boris Johnson in the UK.
06:06He separated from the EU.
06:09I mean, he didn't take any special risks.
06:13The French are abusing Germany.
06:15So this is a festival of a system.
06:18When populism comes,
06:19it is a natural instinct of leaders to externalize.
06:24Because they feel that people in their own country,
06:28even those who are not with them,
06:30when the problem of the country arises,
06:32they will get along with them.
06:33So I think Pakistanis should be careful.
06:35But I will definitely say one thing.
06:37This happiness and hope in Pakistan is very clear.
06:41Even in your presentation,
06:42it is very clear that you felt good
06:44that there is a country, our neighbouring country,
06:47where the democracy is so strong.
06:49These good intentions of Pakistanis,
06:51this is our great strength.
06:53You get this good intention in India.
06:55Many of our friends meet us in Track 2.
06:58There are such people in their government as well.
07:00In journalism.
07:01But the Modi government has spoilt the public so much
07:04against Pakistan,
07:05that this good intention is less.
07:06So we should preserve this good intention.
07:09And I salute those Pakistanis who are getting excited.
07:13Then I also warn them,
07:15that you get so excited that you forget
07:17that whether it is Congress or BJP,
07:19hatred for Pakistan is a political currency in India.
07:23And it has been used for the second time.
07:25So Pakistanis should definitely be happy for Indians.
07:28For our democracy,
07:30we should learn lessons from it.
07:33But we should remember
07:34and the last thing,
07:35which Pakistanis need to think a lot about,
07:38and again, we should be thankful to Allah,
07:40we have an organization like RSS,
07:43an organization like BJP,
07:44which has not been able to advance in any election till date.
07:47With this, I would like to say
07:49that our voters are extremely courageous
07:51and extremely mature voters.
07:54And I, as a person who likes democracy,
07:59I want that,
08:01on 8th February,
08:02instead of selling democracy,
08:05we put it back on the wall.
08:07We should reduce this.
08:09Apart from this,
08:10what we are putting on the wall,
08:12whether I like it or not,
08:14but this is not good for our country,
08:17that we are a natural, organic democracy,
08:20in which we do not like extremists.
08:22When we do injustice to them,
08:24we make them extremists.