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"Jo Hukumat Imran Khan ki aik Tasveer Bahir Anay Say Ghabra Jati Hai wo...." Atif Khan's Statement
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful, I am Aneeka Nisar, with
00:19the program Khabar Lahariya.
00:20In the whole country, the Ashoor Day gathering is being celebrated with full enthusiasm.
00:24Security is extremely strict on Ashoor Day and mobile phone services are partially suspended.
00:29In the memory of the great sacrifices of the Prophet, Imam Hussain and his companions,
00:33a procession is being held on the grounds of the mosque.
00:36And the gathering is being inaugurated.
00:38In all the provinces, strict security arrangements have been made for the protection of the injured.
00:4312,000 rescue personnel are assigned in Punjab and only in Lahore, 15,000 police personnel
00:48are appointed to supervise the processions and gatherings.
00:51The Punjab Police also has the support of the Pakistan Army and Rangers.
00:55In the province, the 144th time has also been executed and mobile and internet services
01:00are suspended in sensitive places throughout the country.
01:03However, the Punjab government claims that for the first time in Punjab, mobile service
01:08and internet are fully active on Ashoor Day.
01:11The President of Pakistan and the Prime Minister of Pakistan have issued special messages
01:16on Ashoor Day that it is necessary to stand up against oppression and oppression while
01:21learning from the reality of Karbala.
01:23The good news is that in spite of the severe threat of terrorism,
01:27there was no unfortunate incident or report of any kind throughout the country.
01:31And the Ashoor gathering has entered its final stages.
01:35May Allah keep everyone safe.
01:38With this, we will move towards the politics of Pakistan and talk about Tehreek-e-Insaf.
01:43The claim of Tehreek-e-Insaf is that 90% of the members of the National Assembly of Pakistan
01:49have been officially appointed as party secretaries.
01:53Members of the National Assembly have been appointed after the Supreme Court's special sessions.
02:00On the one hand, the government has decided to impose restrictions on the Jamaat after the Supreme Court's decision.
02:06On the other hand, Tehreek-e-Insaf claims that the workers of the Jamaat are being threatened.
02:13The workers are receiving threatening emails and calls.
02:16The good news is that the National Assembly of Tehreek-e-Insaf, Muzaffargarh,
02:21has kidnapped Muazzam Ali Khan Jatoi from his house.
02:27The National Assembly of Tehreek-e-Insaf has shared a picture on Facebook
02:32and sent a message that four to five cars of Islamabad Police were present outside his house at night.
02:39The opposition leader of Tehreek-e-Insaf, Umar Ayub, has also tweeted that three people including Muazzam Jatoi have been arrested.
02:46Umar Ayub has written that the workers of the Jamaat are being threatened.
02:53He has said that despite the Supreme Court's decision, the workers of the Jamaat are being forced to disappear.
03:00He has also put this matter in front of the Speaker of the National Assembly.
03:04The senior leader of Tehreek-e-Insaf, Asad Qaisar, has said that the workers of the Jamaat are being forced to disappear.
03:34I request that the Amir Sultan and Muazzam Jatoi be released as soon as possible.
03:40We should not take them to the extent that we do not have any other option.
03:44Stop putting them against the wall.
03:46On the other hand, the court has issued a written order for Imran Khan to be granted a 10-day probation period in the 12 cases of 9th May.
03:54Judge Khalid Arshad has issued a written order for Imran Khan to be granted a 10-day probation period in the 12 cases of 9th May.
04:04The written order states that according to the investigation officer, Bani PTI had ordered the workers to be attacked on military grounds.
04:13According to the order, Bani Pakistan is accused of spreading criminal conspiracies through new devices on Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:21Bani PTI was present through a WhatsApp video call.
04:26However, Bani Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf said that all the footages of 9th May have not been brought forward.
04:32According to the court's order, Imran Khan further said,
04:35Why should I apologize when I have not done anything?
04:39According to the court's order, the investigation officer has issued a written order for Imran Khan to be granted a 25-day probation period in the 12 cases of 9th May.
04:49According to the court's order, Imran Khan further said,
04:54The investigation officer has issued a written order for Imran Khan to be granted a 25-day probation period in the 12 cases of 9th May.
05:04How far can the government's sanctions affect the political system?
05:10Pressure on the workers of Tehreek-e-Insaf, is the government showing a sign of being afraid?
05:16Let's talk about this. We have with us the leader of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, Atif Khan.
05:21Atif Sahib, obviously at this time, the court has said that you are a party.
05:26But as soon as there is a little unity among the allies in the government on this matter, then you will not remain a party.
05:33And the unfortunate thing is that you have done all these things in your time.
05:38So haven't you given a game plan to this government?
05:41Look, what happened in our time, there were some things that should not have happened.
05:46There were a lot of things that should not have happened. There are mistakes, they admit.
05:51But what is happening now, there is no comparison with that time.
05:57If you compare TLP with PTI, there are 115 seats of PTI in the National Assembly, in the province, in the KP government, in Punjab, in the majority, in the Senate.
06:10So there is no comparison.
06:12Anyway, as far as the coalition is concerned, this is a change in the Supreme Court's decision.
06:22Because of which you are seeing all these desperate attempts.
06:25These are the last ditch efforts.
06:27In the end, the person says that just do everything.
06:30So this is also that thing.
06:32Whether you look at the case of the judges, the four judges are putting, that the workload has increased.
06:37The workload has also increased suddenly.
06:39And similarly,
06:41So many political cases are going on, so the workload is increasing, isn't it, Mr. Atif Khan?
06:44At some point in time, political matters are handled in the parliament.
06:47The parliament is dead.
06:48Let's make it permanent.
06:50We have no objection.
06:51It's a good thing.
06:52And not just the politicians, if the general public also gets relief, then it's a very good thing.
06:57People are going crazy.
06:58I mean, I don't know how long my personal cases have been going on.
07:01All the people are going crazy.
07:03So increase the number of judges.
07:05Increase it besides these four.
07:07But keeping a retired judge on ad hoc is a clear cut conspiracy.
07:12There is nothing to think about it.
07:14At this time, the complaints from your leaders are mostly that our people are being kidnapped.
07:21They are being arrested.
07:22Have they been arrested?
07:24Or are they missing now?
07:26Look, there are four different cases.
07:29One, our MNA has been arrested.
07:34One's younger son has been kidnapped.
07:37One's brother has been kidnapped.
07:39Laiya's brother and son have been kidnapped.
07:42And today I have come to know that one more person has been kidnapped, Mr. Jatoy.
07:46Now all these things, coincidentally, I mean, for the last 4-5 months, no one was being kidnapped.
07:52The Supreme Court has decided that these 41 people should join PTI.
07:57Suddenly, anti-corruption was also thought of.
07:59I don't know which agencies thought of it from one day.
08:02What happened with Mr. Dashti.
08:04Right.
08:05I mean, that's also a strange thing.
08:07Now I don't understand that this has remained an open secret.
08:11Who are we hiding it from?
08:13I mean, the whole of Pakistan knows what is happening right now.
08:15And no one is treating it.
08:17No one is treating it.
08:19Obviously, it is happening in front of you at this time.
08:22But in one way, one impression is also going that at this time,
08:26Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is still not ready to talk in any way.
08:32If they are ready to talk, then they should talk to the political parties.
08:36Not to those whom you want to talk to or whom you want to talk to.
08:39If they are convinced to talk to the political parties, then matters can be resolved.
08:44So, is Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf thinking in this direction or not?
08:47It is definitely thinking.
08:48I have also given the same opinion in my party.
08:51And one political party should talk to the other political parties.
08:56But there will be some parameters for it.
08:58There will be some method for it.
09:02I mean, this is not what is happening with us.
09:04I mean, they are now banning our party.
09:06They are picking up our MNAs and their children.
09:09They are putting Article 6 on our leader.
09:12And we tell them, like good children, we just want to talk to you.
09:16This is not how it happens.
09:17Look, if they want to talk, if they want to move the country forward,
09:21then we will talk about some method, some of its fundamental points.
09:26We will then sit on it and...
09:28What are the parameters of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf?
09:30Because so far there were these parameters, right?
09:32To return our mandate, to solve the problem of Form 47-45.
09:35Is it still the same?
09:36We are not saying that we should return it.
09:38We are saying that we should make an independent judicial commission.
09:43In that, we will see, we will determine, if it suits us, then give it to us.
09:47This is what you are saying.
09:48Mr. Rauf Hassan is saying that we should return our mandate or make new elections.
09:51These are the two ways.
09:52Look, I am saying almost the same thing.
09:54Because we are sure that our mandate has been stolen, right?
09:57They are saying that it has not been stolen.
09:59We say that okay, you make a commission.
10:01It will be determined in that.
10:02If it suits us, then give it to us.
10:04Because we know that it suits us.
10:06So, if these things do not happen, then we will...
10:09I am repeating again.
10:11Taking symbols with our party, arresting everyone, children, shut down business.
10:18Despite all this, we won the election.
10:22People voted.
10:24And the rest of the people came to Form 47.
10:26Our leader is in jail.
10:28His wife is in jail.
10:30Our other leaders are in jail.
10:32And if they say that you should forget all these things and come forward,
10:37then this is not done, right?
10:38I mean, you should come to some point and talk.
10:42Do you see any relief for Mr. Imran Khan in the future?
10:45Because if you get relief from the judiciary, then the government has many more tactics.
10:49You have been in government.
10:50You know it better than I do.
10:52The government somehow or the other, if someone has to keep a sideline,
10:57then it finds a way.
10:59So, do you see Mr. Khan coming out of jail?
11:02As far as the government is concerned,
11:06if a picture of him comes out, then they get nervous.
11:10So, how will they let Mr. Khan come out?
11:12We have hope from such judges,
11:15who are still bearing the pressure and making the right decisions.
11:22We have hope from those people.
11:24And we have no hope from the rest of the government.
11:27I mean, I say again, if they get nervous because of a picture…
11:30They don't have any hope from you.
11:31They shouldn't have any.
11:32I am telling you this as well.
11:33Look, what has happened with our people since the last year and a half,
11:37and it is still happening,
11:39and there are champions of democracy.
11:42Mr. Nawaz Sharif, Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
11:45there are great things about democracy.
11:47I mean, you see, in democracy,
11:49you say that you are banning the largest political party.
11:53Okay, let's move on to the cases now.
11:56There are 12 more cases of 9th May.
11:58In these 12 more cases, we have found a remand.
12:01Now, after this, obviously, there will be an investigation.
12:04Because the allegation, and this is a very big allegation,
12:06this is not a small allegation,
12:08that Mr. Imran Khan himself,
12:10through very new devices,
12:12had given the order that if I am arrested,
12:16then immediately go to such sensitive areas,
12:21and attack them immediately.
12:24Things will go towards forensic, polygraph tests,
12:27all these things will happen.
12:29From that, you can see things going in which direction?
12:32It's a simple thing, Anika.
12:33These are all politically motivated cases.
12:35You saw that earlier, there was a lot of noise,
12:37that Tosha Khana, Tosha Khana, Tosha Khana,
12:40what came out of Tosha Khana?
12:42Iddat case.
12:43I mean, I have been to the court many times.
12:46The talks that used to happen there,
12:48I used to think,
12:49Pakistan's politics has fallen.
12:51Exactly.
12:52I mean, what came out of that?
12:54Similarly, there was the Cypher case.
12:56What came out of Cypher?
12:57Similarly, there is this case too.
12:59New devices were used,
13:00I don't know what was used.
13:02There are 200 cases, 203.
13:04Exactly.
13:05So, one case is over,
13:06so they put it in the second one.
13:07The second one is over,
13:08so they put it in the third one.
13:09The chairman of UNEP himself,
13:11has taken a gift from Tosha Khana.
13:13And, again, Tosha Khana,
13:16once it's over,
13:17they reached there,
13:19and started from there.
13:21So, there is nothing in these cases.
13:23We only have hope from those judges,
13:25who, despite the pressure,
13:27and this pressure,
13:28I am not saying that I am blabbering.
13:30Six judges of Islamabad High Court,
13:33they have written,
13:35that cameras are being set up in our rooms,
13:38our relatives are being picked up.
13:40It has become a very complex situation.
13:42The judges of the High Court are complaining,
13:47the judges of the District Court are complaining.
13:49It's a hodgepodge at this point in time.
13:51But, unfortunately,
13:53the pressure that you are talking about,
13:55is present in its own place.
13:56On the other hand, there is another pressure,
13:58that social media gives a lot of pressure.
14:00So, whatever decision is made,
14:02somehow, the other, you know,
14:04comes in the same way.
14:05That pressure is also a reality.
14:07Look, this pressure and that pressure,
14:09are totally different things.
14:11If we assume that,
14:12right now, youth,
14:13or majority of Pakistanis,
14:15youth use social media,
14:17and they give their opinion,
14:19then you can't compare it with that pressure,
14:21that you have set up a camera in someone's room,
14:24or kidnapped someone.
14:26That is a totally different thing.
14:27If the majority of Pakistanis,
14:29think that this is wrong,
14:31for example,
14:32right now,
14:33we are talking about four ad hoc judges.
14:35You can see,
14:36there is a lot of objection on social media.
14:38Now, if you say that,
14:40this PTI is doing it,
14:42to put pressure,
14:44that is a wrong thing.
14:45If the majority of Pakistanis,
14:46think that it is wrong,
14:47they will give their opinion.
14:48If the judges think that,
14:50we are doing it right,
14:51why do they come under social media pressure?
14:53They don't have to fight an election.
14:55What do they have to do?
14:56They have to make their own decisions.
14:57Judges don't say,
14:58their decisions are said.
14:59They should make their decisions,
15:00in the right way.
15:01Right.
15:02Now, Pakistan,
15:03on the ban of PTI,
15:04which is at this time,
15:05there is a little difference.
15:07Pakistan,
15:08in Muslim League Noon,
15:09and Pakistan People's Party,
15:10there is no clarity,
15:11as to what is going to happen,
15:12and what is not going to happen.
15:13But,
15:14in case,
15:15if you have to bear,
15:16this difficulty,
15:17then is PTI ready for this?
15:20First of all,
15:21you talked about,
15:22Noon League,
15:23and the coalition of other parties.
15:25First of all,
15:26there is no agreement,
15:27even within Noon League,
15:28that this should happen,
15:29and this should not happen.
15:30Secondly,
15:31take coalition partners,
15:32there is still no clarity on them.
15:34Thirdly,
15:35all the political parties,
15:36even if they are our worst opponents,
15:38like,
15:39JUI,
15:40Jamaat-e-Islami,
15:41ANP,
15:42all the parties,
15:43have opposed this.
15:44So,
15:45first of all,
15:46this will not happen,
15:47Inshallah.
15:48It will go to the Supreme Court,
15:49and Inshallah,
15:50if they do not appoint a judge,
15:52a retiree,
15:53or an ad-hoc,
15:54it is a different matter,
15:55that they want to make a decision,
15:56but this will not happen,
15:57Inshallah.
15:58And,
15:59even if they do,
16:00on many parties,
16:01ANP was banned,
16:02this used to be the National People's Party,
16:05Jamaat-e-Islami was banned.
16:07See,
16:08you can end a political party,
16:09with politics.
16:11But,
16:12you cannot end it this way.
16:14I mean,
16:15if people want,
16:16to come from another name,
16:17to come from another name,
16:18until a party,
16:19does not end politically,
16:21you cannot end it,
16:22with administration,
16:23or with legislation,
16:24it will never end,
16:25it will only increase.
16:27Sir,
16:28are you talking about difference of opinion,
16:29or on the government side?
16:31Many of your friends,
16:33your members,
16:34those members,
16:35who have become a bit sidelined,
16:36or who were in some time,
16:37they are pointing this way,
16:38that Pakistan,
16:39even in Tehreek-e-Insaf,
16:40there is no unanimity,
16:41there is no unity,
16:42there is no thought,
16:43there is no single thought,
16:44that what should be done,
16:45how should be done,
16:46and to bring Mr. Khan out,
16:47no leadership is doing anything,
16:48Mr. Atif Khan.
16:50See,
16:51there are two different things in this,
16:52the differences in the party.
16:54One difference is that,
16:55which is,
16:56mutual difference.
16:58I mean,
16:59my party member,
17:00will have a difference with someone else,
17:01someone else will have a difference,
17:02he will have a difference with me.
17:03But,
17:04as far as they are saying,
17:05yes,
17:06there is a difference,
17:07it will become a forward block,
17:08it will become this,
17:09it will become that.
17:10See,
17:11everyone agrees with Imran Khan,
17:12everyone agrees with Tehreek-e-Insaf,
17:13even if there are some issues between us,
17:16there are issues in other political parties,
17:18Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif,
17:19there are a lot of issues.
17:21No,
17:22but these differences are of that level.
17:24No.
17:25These differences are coming in front of everyone.
17:27See,
17:28this is our weakness,
17:29and I say this everywhere,
17:31that in the party,
17:33I also have a lot of differences,
17:35I still do,
17:36but,
17:37bringing it to the media,
17:38saying it in public,
17:39this is not right.
17:41Our people,
17:42in their ignorance,
17:43or in their emotions,
17:44they come and say things,
17:45which they should not do.
17:46You have party forums available,
17:48you can raise them,
17:51if you have an issue,
17:52it is fine,
17:53otherwise,
17:54you can listen to someone else.
17:55Right.
17:56Okay,
17:57Mr. Atif Khan,
17:58in any way,
17:59was there a reach out from the government,
18:00to have a discussion again,
18:02or before this?
18:03Because,
18:04they have always said that,
18:05we are ready to talk.
18:06Now,
18:07you have given a signal,
18:08that we will be ready to talk to the People's Party,
18:10if there is a matter of non-compliance.
18:12Because,
18:13you will be the single largest party,
18:15in the parliament,
18:16number wise.
18:17Any connection,
18:18any backdoor diplomacy?
18:20Nothing has happened yet.
18:22On TV,
18:23on the media,
18:24we used to see,
18:25that sometimes someone comes,
18:26and says,
18:27yes,
18:28we are ready to talk,
18:29to become very democratic.
18:31But,
18:32there was no serious effort,
18:35with which I can say,
18:36that yes,
18:37these people are serious,
18:38in some negotiation.
18:39They do not have the authority,
18:40to negotiate.
18:41So,
18:42what negotiation will they do?
18:43But,
18:44did you contact the People's Party?
18:45Did you contact them yourself?
18:46We did not contact anyone.
18:47Regarding non-confidence.
18:48We did not contact anyone.
18:49In fact,
18:50we have not decided yet,
18:51whether we will bring non-confidence,
18:52or not,
18:53or whether we will bring it with them,
18:54or not.
18:55No,
18:56if you do not bring it with them,
18:57then with whom?
18:58Look,
18:59this is…
19:00What is the option?
19:01Option,
19:02for now,
19:03is,
19:04that we confirm this,
19:05which I am saying,
19:06on your program today.
19:07I feel that,
19:08this government,
19:09will not implement,
19:10the Supreme Court's decision.
19:11They will have,
19:12contact notices,
19:13they will resist that too,
19:14whether it is,
19:15to the extent of the National Assembly,
19:16or their own,
19:17Election Commission.
19:18They will try their best,
19:19to not implement,
19:20the Supreme Court's decision.
19:21So,
19:22you are saying,
19:23that reserved seats,
19:24will not be given,
19:25to the Supreme Court.
19:26Yes.
19:27So,
19:28they will try their best,
19:29to not implement,
19:30the Supreme Court's decision.
19:31So,
19:32you are saying,
19:33that the reserved seats,
19:34that the court has given you,
19:35will not be given to you.
19:36The government will resist.
19:37The government will resist.
19:38You will see in the coming days.
19:39First,
19:40they will go for a review,
19:41or whatever they do,
19:42that is a legal option.
19:43But,
19:44apart from that,
19:45you have…
19:46But,
19:47you have given your list,
19:48haven't you?
19:49You have deposited it.
19:50I have heard,
19:51that around 90% of the people,
19:52have given their documents.
19:53Yes,
19:54we have given our list.
19:55I am not saying from our side.
19:56My intention is,
19:57at this time,
19:58they will go for a full-fledged,
19:59confrontation,
20:00with the judiciary,
20:01and they will not let,
20:02this be implemented.
20:03Then,
20:04what?
20:05What next?
20:06What will Pakistan do,
20:07regarding the reserved seats?
20:08We are the courts.
20:09We have our street agitation,
20:10which is our right.
20:11We are demonstrators.
20:12Okay,
20:13I have been hearing about,
20:14street agitation for a long time,
20:15Mr. Atif Khan.
20:16Now,
20:17this seems to be an old thing.
20:18Earlier,
20:19the weather was bad.
20:20After that,
20:21there were fasts.
20:22After that,
20:23the weather was bad again.
20:24Now,
20:25it has rained.
20:26Now,
20:27Mr. Asad Qaisar has also said,
20:28that now,
20:29they will not protest,
20:30because,
20:31on one hand,
20:32Imran Khan has given us,
20:33that kind of full-fledged,
20:34which you come out of,
20:35and think that,
20:36I don't want to go back.
20:37I want to achieve my goal,
20:38and go back.
20:39Until that stage,
20:40Mr. Abhi Khan,
20:41has not given,
20:42clear-cut instructions.
20:43Okay.
20:44On the other hand,
20:45the situation in Punjab,
20:46in a year and a half,
20:47have you seen,
20:48that any Jalsa PTI,
20:49has been allowed to be held,
20:50or any demonstration,
20:51has been allowed to be held?
20:52Look,
20:53people are getting frustrated,
20:54on one hand,
20:55there is a lot of,
20:56there is a lot of,
20:57there is a lot of,
20:58there is a lot of,
20:59nothing happens,
21:00on the one hand,
21:01no day goes by,
21:02the day the petrol price,
21:03is not high,
21:04the next day the petrol,
21:05price will not be high,
21:06so gas price increases,
21:07if gas price does not increase,
21:08so electricity price increases.
21:09On one hand,
21:10we have a failure of government,
21:11on the other hand,
21:12you have no excellence.
21:13I am saying this,
21:14people are already frustrated,
21:15that if we,
21:16if we,
21:17if we,
21:18as soon as,
21:19we have plans,
21:20for mobilization,
21:21and specifically in Punjab,
21:22I am saying this,
21:23because,
21:24in Punjab,
21:25we are not allowing anyone,
21:26to leave the village.
21:27Where we announce,
21:28The last time NOC was recalled, after that it was said that we won't do it again.
21:38What if you do a Jalsa and take back the NOC?
21:42We will do it even after that.
21:44So you are going towards agitation?
21:46Yes, we will go.
21:47We have decided that if we do an announcement and cancel it at the last minute.
21:53Did Mr. Khan give a go-ahead on this?
21:55Yes, we will talk to him.
21:57Even if he agrees.
21:59Because if he is saying not to do agitation and you are doing agitation.
22:02No, Mr. Khan is saying to do agitation but with the NOC.
22:06Don't do anything illegal.
22:08But if we...
22:09Look, we publicize.
22:11The workers put pressure on us.
22:13Why did you cancel it?
22:15Don't give us the government. We have to come.
22:17The pressure we were put on by the workers that day.
22:20We are not ready for that the second time.
22:22We will take the NOC.
22:23Even if it gets cancelled, we will do it.
22:27Whatever our plan is, we will do it.
22:29Right. Let's come back to Adham Aitmaad.
22:31Regarding Adham Aitmaad, people were saying that they are ready to talk to the People's Party.
22:36Are you, PTI, ready to take back your words that
22:40People's Party, PMLN won't talk to MQM because they are corrupt parties?
22:44Will you be ready to take back your words and sit with the People's Party?
22:48Look, that is not final yet.
22:52That we will sit with them.
22:54Is there any discussion about this in PTI?
22:55No. There is no discussion.
22:56Look, there was a discussion earlier.
22:58There was a discussion at the start as well.
23:00But that discussion was only to this extent.
23:02Look, Maulana is also very much against us.
23:04We are also very much against him.
23:06But only on one point.
23:08Did you travel because of the reserved seats?
23:10I mean, there are a lot of things that...
23:12Anyway, everyone was there.
23:14They were thinking that they are getting free seats from the sky.
23:19So, one said, give it to me.
23:20The other said, give it to me.
23:22So, that is another thing.
23:23But, God willing, we are on a single point agenda.
23:28That is, the elections should be held properly.
23:32Mandatory should not be there.
23:34We are focusing on these things.
23:36That we should also engage with other political parties.
23:39Including PMLN, People's Party, MQMT.
23:42Look, if I tell you on one point.
23:44One point is that,
23:46the one who has the mandate, should get it.
23:50The one who has a role outside,
23:54if there is a role of any intelligence agency,
23:57any other agency,
23:59they should play their role.
24:01But if you play a role outside,
24:04if you go towards the destruction of this country,
24:06I think we are not ready for this.
24:09But, People's Party, PMLN, MQMT are ready to talk on this point.
24:13Absolutely.
24:14Because, without talking to them, other things can happen.
24:16Look, I am saying that,
24:17we are ready to talk about the rule of law,
24:22or the democratic institutions.
24:25Let them do their work.
24:27Making someone a party from outside,
24:29ending a party,
24:31these things should end.
24:33Look, where the country has reached.
24:34Let me tell you,
24:35the answer of other parties will be that,
24:36first of all, you started a hybrid system.
24:38You were the founders of this.
24:40No.
24:41And after that, this system has been going on.
24:42Look, this system has been going on for 75 years.
24:44Sometimes it increases, sometimes it decreases.
24:46After the Charter of Democracy.
24:47But, look, what is the difference?
24:49The difference is that, it has been going on for 75 years.
24:51Now, those who are sitting in the back,
24:53those who run the country,
24:54those who sometimes sit in the driving seat,
24:56and sometimes make someone sit and say,
24:58take right, take left,
24:59apply the brakes,
25:00honk the horn.
25:01If those people themselves think,
25:04what did we achieve?
25:06I mean, today, is this country's economy better?
25:10Is law and order better?
25:12Is democracy better?
25:14I mean, not a single thing is right.
25:16So, if you have been working on something for 75 years
25:18and it is not working,
25:20then don't waste more time on it.
25:22So, you need to rethink.
25:23Exactly.
25:24That's what you are saying,
25:25that you need to rethink.
25:26Exactly.
25:27But, lastly,
25:28now, Pakistan is standing on two paths.
25:32One is the path where you can protest,
25:37and the other is the path where you can work in the national sphere of politics.
25:44Sitting in the parliament,
25:45in itself,
25:46was a prerequisite to accepting the parliament and the political process.
25:50Before this, you were not even ready to sit in the parliament.
25:52If in the coming times,
25:55even if the government doesn't agree,
25:57this same government continues to run,
25:59you too don't come with confidence,
26:01you too say that you don't want to come with a vote of no confidence.
26:03So, will you continue to run with this tenure?
26:07And will you be ready to sit in the opposition?
26:09Look, we don't have a problem with sitting in the opposition.
26:12The two things you said,
26:13one of them is that,
26:15if,
26:16whatever is your or my disagreement,
26:19we sit down and discuss it.
26:21Dealing is something else.
26:22We won't deal.
26:23We won't deal.
26:25You can talk to anyone.
26:27Whom do you want to talk to, Atif Khan?
26:29Any party.
26:30You want to talk to the party.
26:31I am saying that,
26:32we don't want to deal.
26:34We don't want to deal for power.
26:37Neither does the party want to deal
26:40that we go abroad,
26:42we go to Saudi Arabia,
26:44or we go to London,
26:46and we don't want to deal with diseases.
26:49We will talk about one point,
26:51which will be in front of everyone.
26:54Apart from that,
26:55we don't want to take any deal,
26:56or take any power for ourselves.
26:58So now,
26:59PTI doesn't want to talk to the establishment.
27:02Is that true?
27:03We want the democratic system to come.
27:07If we talk to the establishment,
27:09they are accepting their things.
27:12So you don't want to do it.
27:13You are putting a stamp on the fact,
27:15that we don't want to talk to the establishment.
27:16We want the democratic system to get better.
27:20So will you talk to the establishment for that?
27:21We will talk to the political party for that.
27:23You won't talk to the establishment?
27:24We won't.
27:25So this chapter is closed.
27:28Right.
27:29Aadukh Khan sir,
27:30thank you very much for joining me in the program.
27:31We will go to the break,
27:32and come back after the break.
27:33And we will continue the show.
27:38Welcome back after the break.
27:40On behalf of the Pakistan People's Party,
27:42on the decision of banning Tehreek-e-Insaf,
27:44after a severe action,
27:46where yesterday,
27:47the government was going back on its foot,
27:49today, the Pakistan People's Party,
27:50has also taken a step back.
27:52On the decision of banning PTI,
27:54yesterday,
27:55Farhatullah Bawar,
27:56Sherry Rehman,
27:57and Shazia Muri,
27:58after a severe action,
27:59today,
28:00the Pakistan People's Party,
28:01has expressed their discontent with these statements.
28:04The party's secretary-general,
28:05Nayyar Hussain Bukhari,
28:06has said in a statement,
28:08that on the suggestion of banning PTI,
28:11the party has not spoken on any level.
28:13The statements of the Pakistan People's Party leaders,
28:16are their personal opinions.
28:17Nayyar Hussain Bukhari has also made it clear,
28:19that the Pakistan People's Party,
28:20does not take the statement of the loyal minister of information seriously.
28:23This will be a serious step,
28:25when the minister of information,
28:26or Nawaz Sharif,
28:28will contact the leadership of the Pakistan People's Party.
28:32The statement of the Pakistan People's Party,
28:34has been made today.
28:36And today,
28:37the minister of information,
28:38Murad Ali Shah,
28:39is speaking against his own party policy.
28:41That the Pakistan People's Party,
28:43is not in favour of banning any political party.
28:47We have never been in favour of banning any political party.
28:51The PTI will have to see,
28:53whether they are behaving like a political party or not.
28:56If they present themselves,
28:58as a political party,
28:59or a democratic party,
29:01then this ban will not be applied.
29:05Like the government,
29:06the Pakistan People's Party,
29:07is also playing on both sides.
29:09From the side of the loyal minister of information,
29:11in a formal press conference,
29:13after the decision of banning Tehreek-e-Insaf,
29:15and putting an article 6 against Imran Khan,
29:18yesterday,
29:19Naib Wazir-e-Azam Ishaq Dar,
29:21gave a statement,
29:22that the ban on Tehreek-e-Insaf,
29:23was not a final decision.
29:25The decision will be made,
29:26after consultation with the parties.
29:28Like this,
29:29till yesterday,
29:30the Pakistan People's Party,
29:31was in favour of banning Tehreek-e-Insaf.
29:34And today,
29:35they have made it clear,
29:36that this is not the policy of the Pakistan People's Party.
29:38Along with the changing stance,
29:40of the government and its parties,
29:43Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
29:45also believes that,
29:46no one can put a ban on Tehreek-e-Insaf.
30:05But if we look at the political history of Pakistan,
30:07from Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto,
30:08to Imran Khan himself,
30:10have put a ban on political parties.
30:13The intention of banning Tehreek-e-Insaf,
30:15from the side of these governments,
30:17is still visible,
30:18when the matter goes to the parliament.
30:21And,
30:22if a ban is put on Tehreek-e-Insaf,
30:24then before that,
30:25the government,
30:26the PTI,
30:27will have to declare,
30:28a terrorist group,
30:29or a state-opposing group.
30:32We have with us,
30:33for this topic,
30:34Aamir Ilyas Rana,
30:35who is a senior.
30:36Thank you very much, Mr. Rana,
30:37for joining us.
30:38Mr. Rana,
30:39in government unions,
30:40there is no unanimity,
30:41that whether Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
30:43should be banned,
30:44as a community,
30:45or not.
30:46Or,
30:47whether they should be looked at,
30:48from the perspective of,
30:49the national strata,
30:50and democracy,
30:51and all those things.
30:52They should be looked at,
30:53from that perspective.
30:54Mr. Rana,
30:55in this situation,
30:56where every time,
30:57PMLN announces something,
30:58and after that,
30:59there is some opposition,
31:00from the Pakistan People's Party,
31:01doesn't it reflect,
31:02that the government,
31:03should be looking at,
31:04its own unions,
31:05as a community,
31:06as a community,
31:07as a community,
31:08as a community,
31:09isn't it taking,
31:10its own unions,
31:11very seriously?
31:14Anika,
31:15there are two things,
31:16that the unions,
31:17specially the Pakistan People's Party,
31:19their first wish was,
31:21that Pakistan,
31:22should make a government,
31:23with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
31:24Tehreek-e-Insaf,
31:25put out the green flag,
31:26and then,
31:27the stakeholders,
31:28the establishment,
31:29joined in the discussion.
31:31As a result of that,
31:32the People's Party,
31:33got the chairmanship,
31:34of the Senate,
31:35and of the Senate.
31:36And then,
31:37this,
31:38and then the Khamran-e-Tahad was formed.
31:40The matters were settled and all the things were completed.
31:43Now, like they did on the budget,
31:46but you know that all the debates on the budget,
31:48the benefit was to take development schemes for their own people.
31:52There was no such thing as the people anywhere.
31:55We can say that if we have taken funds for the elected people,
31:58then they are also for the people.
31:59But in that, the taxation on the common man on the budget,
32:04the People's Party did not take any action for that.
32:06Similarly, what is being discussed now is not that we do not want to ban PTI.
32:14People are saying that PTI's work is very bad,
32:16but they do not trust us and the unity does not work like this.
32:19This is not the way.
32:20Now, it is obvious that when Atta Tarar did the press conference two days ago
32:25and said that we will ban PTI, we will ban political parties,
32:31he said that all the grounds are fine.
32:33He also said the same things that Atta Tarar said, but we will talk.
32:36But Mr. Anand, the biggest problem is that once the government comes,
32:40the minister of the government comes, not a common man, not even a leader,
32:42he is the Minister of Information, he has come, he has announced.
32:46Wouldn't it have been better if PMLN,
32:47which is handling all the affairs in the government cabinet,
32:51had talked to its allies once and then made the announcement?
32:56This is basically correct.
33:00But when the allies are ready to listen to someone else and are ready to listen to them,
33:04and on their behalf,
33:06together, after Atta Tarar's meeting,
33:10he will hold a press conference according to me,
33:13then they will handle it and if the case has to go,
33:16it will come on one page, there is no such issue.
33:18Mr. Anand, I am sorry,
33:20this is the matter of Mr. Javed Latif,
33:22whoever has made the government, will run it.
33:26No, the people who make it and run it are all on the same page.
33:30It is an institution, it is an establishment.
33:32There is no third party.
33:34So when they have all had a press conference together,
33:37that you will have to apologize, otherwise you will have to face it.
33:40So now the time has come,
33:42that they have come to the story of do or die.
33:46That is fine, then make decisions.
33:47Then the courts will also be looked at.
33:49And the matters will also be looked at,
33:51that now decide that to put article 6,
33:54there is no need for any practice and procedure act.
33:57That Chief Justice has to take a judge from three high courts,
34:00has to make a special court according to the 1976 law.
34:03And the reference has to go,
34:05if the cabinet approves,
34:06all the evidences will be applied,
34:08which Atta Tarar has said in the press conference,
34:09foreign funding and other things,
34:11which is the basis to ban any party,
34:14that has he worked against the peace of Pakistan?
34:17Now where there is a lot of debate in our country,
34:19the people of PTI are also doing it,
34:20we are also doing it,
34:21that see, a party has taken so many votes,
34:23how can you call it a security risk?
34:27And which law stops it?
34:28The law itself has written to make parties,
34:32there is also written to ban the party.
34:34So this will be the success of the government,
34:37that it can convince the court,
34:38that is, the Supreme Court.
34:40What I was talking to you about,
34:41that bench too,
34:42which I have checked so far,
34:44that practice and procedure will not be made by going to the act,
34:47that too the Chief Justice has said of his own will,
34:49that reference has to go.
34:50That no petition or such a thing has to happen,
34:53that has to go under the provisions of the act,
34:55and the Supreme Court has to go and give evidence,
34:58and if the Supreme Court is satisfied,
34:59then it will say that it is fine,
35:00otherwise it will keep the reference.
35:02And whatever people are doing today,
35:06whether it is the Peace Party or the PTI,
35:07all these experiments have been done to ban parties.
35:10The PTI has done it.
35:12In 2021, it has been done in TLP,
35:14it has obviously been banned.
35:15Everyone is doing the same thing,
35:16ultimately the same things come up,
35:18which have been done before.
35:19But Mr. Raj, just a while ago,
35:20Mr. Aadha Khan was also present,
35:21he was also saying that I don't think that
35:23these cases, the cases of returning seats,
35:26the cases of returning reserved seats,
35:28if the government obeys the orders of the Supreme Court,
35:32then this is a crisis.
35:33If this does not happen,
35:34then there are no two ways about it,
35:36that two institutions will stand in front of each other.
35:41Look, Mukannana, the Supreme Court,
35:44and then the Executive,
35:46they will stand with the Supreme Court.
35:49They will stand against it.
35:50How they will stand,
35:51we have to see the optics right now.
35:53How will the Election Commission go about this decision?
35:55They are having a meeting tomorrow,
35:56will they send the High Court?
35:58You tell me, there were three days in the constitution,
36:00that too has passed,
36:01a 15-day order has been issued,
36:02how do we believe this?
36:03When the constitution clearly tells you
36:06that you have to be loyal in three days,
36:08they have even taken an oath,
36:10the Supreme Court has already issued 187.
36:13I will tell you, Anika,
36:15look, there are about five judges
36:17who were sitting in the full court,
36:18under the Practices and Procedures Act.
36:20And they had decided that 184.3
36:23has to be put under the Practices and Procedures Act.
36:27That is, the three-member committee will sit,
36:29when a case comes from somewhere,
36:31we will look at it.
36:32Now, if they have to write in a detailed decision,
36:36that we have given complete justice to the PTI,
36:40only one party has got complete justice,
36:42and in the natural law,
36:46at least you should have asked the people
36:48who have lost their seats,
36:50that we are taking your seats,
36:51they did not even notice.
36:52The party that has come to appeal,
36:53did not get anything either.
36:55So how can you go and make this decision yourself?
36:58This question will come,
36:59and if you have enforced 184.3,
37:02then there is an appeal in it,
37:05that you can appeal,
37:06the review is there,
37:07in this, in the full court,
37:09there can be no further appeal of 184.3,
37:11because the full court is sitting,
37:1313 judges are sitting,
37:14now you bring four ad hoc judges,
37:16they will not be able to sit 13,
37:19and they cannot be 14.
37:20These are big questions,
37:21there are a lot of ifs and buts,
37:23in its implementation,
37:24it will not be done so easily.
37:26Right, so in other words,
37:27some or the other situation will definitely develop,
37:29where the matter will come to a standstill.
37:31But now, Mr. Rana,
37:34the issue of banning Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
37:37how much will it be able to move forward in your eyes?
37:39Will it be possible or not?
37:41Because there is a reality,
37:43they have a province,
37:44they are governing the province,
37:46they are governing as a political party,
37:48they are the single largest party,
37:51which is present in the National Assembly,
37:53if such a party is banned,
37:54will it be right?
37:57Look, these things are in everyone's eyes,
38:00there are all stakeholders,
38:01there is PTI,
38:02there is Sunni Taat Council,
38:03there is Muslim League,
38:05People's Party,
38:05MQM,
38:06JUI,
38:08Adalya and Fauj,
38:09all of them are citizens of this country,
38:11they are in the form of judges,
38:12they are in the form of generals,
38:13they are in the form of presidents,
38:15they are in the form of opposition.
38:16The situation is one that this is Pakistan
38:18and how to govern it.
38:19At the moment, it is not governable.
38:21Here, with some politics
38:24and what some institutions have done to each other,
38:26there we are standing with our hands tied in front of the IMF
38:30and they are making us do whatever they want.
38:33And here the common man is not in a good state.
38:35I talked about this in the start,
38:37that is, where does the common man exist?
38:39In the eyes of which institution does he exist?
38:40Can it be said with 26 lakh cases
38:43that we are going to give justice to the common man
38:45because we have come from the bottom to the top?
38:47Has our army completely controlled terrorism?
38:51Or have we made it clear that we give all the money,
38:54the common man gives tax,
38:56all these institutions run on it
38:58and there is nothing for him who has given everything.
39:00And there is no debate.
39:01There is no debate in the Parliament,
39:03there is no debate in the Adalya,
39:04nor is there a debate in any other institution.
39:06And in the media too,
39:07the same thing is happening that
39:08we put fresh tempering every day,
39:10the new spice that comes,
39:11we debate it.
39:12If there is nothing,
39:16then it is that for the welfare of the common man,
39:21who and when and how will he work?
39:24Because at this time,
39:25the government will talk about the welfare of the common man.
39:29If the government will focus on this,
39:31if the government will focus on this,
39:34that which Jamaat he has to ban and which Jamaat he should not ban,
39:37and where the seats should come to him,
39:39where the seats should come to someone else,
39:41then the common man is left far behind.
39:43And this is a fact that
39:44this time the budget could not have been done anywhere other than IMF
39:47because we have considered them our parents unfortunately.
39:50But now,
39:51if we get out of this issue,
39:53then we will think about the common man.
39:55So tell me,
39:56when will the government get out of this issue,
39:57this ban issue?
39:59No, we cannot get out.
40:01The night we are getting the staff college agreement with IMF,
40:06we are seeing that our judges have given complete justice to people,
40:10who have got it,
40:11i.e. PTI's Ali Zafar is saying,
40:13that we did not expect this,
40:15that they gave so much.
40:17And what was Salman Akram Raja saying in the Supreme Court,
40:19that give it to the Sunni Taad Council.
40:21You can imagine,
40:22how much complete justice our Supreme Court has given,
40:26because of which this whole situation has emerged in a new way,
40:28that how will we go ahead and how will we work.
40:31This is a place to think,
40:32and it is the work of all of them to think.
40:33You are going to give complete justice,
40:35you call everyone.
40:36When Atar Minallah Sahib was saying,
40:37that this was what happened with the Muslim League in 2018,
40:39then complete justice was that,
40:41we should open it in 2018,
40:43and do it in 2024.
40:44And the retired people,
40:46who gave the work at that time,
40:48whether they were in the League,
40:50whether they were in the army,
40:51or the people who are present today,
40:53we have called them,
40:54tell us the solution to this problem,
40:55how will we do it,
40:56we want to give complete justice.
40:57But this is one way justice.
40:58Did you give justice for one party,
41:00or what did you give for the other?
41:02Right.
41:03But Mr. Rahan,
41:04the thing comes there and stops.
41:07At Pakistan People's Party.
41:09If the Pakistan People's Party,
41:10takes its hand away from the government,
41:11then the government will collapse.
41:13Basically,
41:14it is the Pakistan People's Party.
41:16So,
41:17in this situation,
41:18in which direction will the People's Party go?
41:21In your opinion,
41:22is there a party,
41:23which says,
41:24we are also supporters of democracy,
41:26we believe in democracy,
41:30will it go towards banning a party?
41:34You remember,
41:35when the elections were fresh,
41:37one day,
41:38in Sindh,
41:39GDA,
41:40that is,
41:41Pir Pagada Sahib,
41:42had a protest.
41:43Absolutely.
41:44Sindh was completely shut down.
41:46After that,
41:47what happened?
41:48People's Party,
41:49and Muslim Leave None,
41:50got together.
41:51On one hand,
41:52PTI had refused,
41:53on the other hand,
41:54they got together.
41:55Everyone knows,
41:56how we are standing.
41:57It is not that,
41:58the People's Party is alone,
41:59it is such a democratic party,
42:00that all its systems are standing.
42:02The People's Party was also on the budget.
42:04I was saying at that time,
42:05that they should say this.
42:06There are two ways.
42:07They should say to their President,
42:08that President,
42:09you should tell Shabaz Sharif,
42:10that you should vote for Ittimaad,
42:11the People's Party has been decided.
42:12It would have ended.
42:13If they didn't want to say that,
42:14then they should say to PTI,
42:16that we will vote against the budget,
42:18you should stand with us.
42:19PTI did this in one way,
42:21the People's Party,
42:22in which this principle was made for the public,
42:24that we will not allow taxation for the public.
42:26Tell me,
42:27did you get any indication,
42:29because of which this question arose,
42:30that where will the People's Party be?
42:31The People's Party will be there,
42:32where it is present at the moment.
42:34Right.
42:35But why is the People's Party
42:36coming from inside in a different way?
42:38At one place,
42:39Nayyar Bukhari's statement has come,
42:41that we have not discussed anything in the party.
42:43There is Sherry Rehman Sahiba,
42:45there is,
42:46what is his name,
42:47Raza Rabbani Sahab,
42:48and so many other Pakistan People's Party leaders,
42:50have said,
42:51that no,
42:52this is not going to be on,
42:53this is not right,
42:54this will be wrong.
42:55And Nayyar Bukhari is saying,
42:56that his own people are coming,
42:58this has not been discussed yet.
43:00Such senior leaders,
43:01talk through a party line,
43:03Rana Sahab,
43:04no one talks to themselves.
43:06No, no,
43:07in all the big parties,
43:08people express their opinions,
43:10with freedom of expression,
43:12and this is in all the parties.
43:14And then when the party says,
43:15and for the party,
43:16according to me,
43:17there has been a discussion
43:18with the President of the country
43:19on this matter,
43:20and after that,
43:21there has been a press conference
43:22of the Minister of Information.
43:23Rest, this is time taking,
43:24Rana Sahab,
43:25this is news,
43:26this is news,
43:27this is your analysis.
43:28No,
43:29this is an analysis,
43:30that without the approval
43:31of the President,
43:32this press conference,
43:33in contact with him,
43:34in trust,
43:35without whom to trust,
43:36this work could not have been done.
43:38Right.
43:39Rest,
43:40what happens is,
43:41different words are used,
43:42that okay,
43:43give us this too,
43:44give us this too,
43:45in this sense,
43:46give us this,
43:47give us this fund,
43:48in Punjab,
43:49find some more space,
43:50which Maryam Nawaz is not finding,
43:51that we will do
43:52what was decided for you,
43:53which is with PMLN's MNA,
43:54MPAs,
43:55that is with you,
43:56no PMLN's MNAs,
43:57MPAs,
43:58have not been humiliated,
43:59that with their consent,
44:00DPO and DC are doing it.
44:01Maryam Nawaz is
44:02doing it with a very good
44:03intention,
44:04that for the welfare of people,
44:05she is not giving the way
44:06to the political people,
44:07that we will fix Punjab
44:08once and for all,
44:09and then,
44:10that is the wish of the
44:11People's Party,
44:12that whenever anything happens,
44:13press a little,
44:14take some other way,
44:15we get more funds,
44:16so that it is easier
44:17for our people,
44:18apart from this,
44:19nothing else is needed.
44:20So,
44:21so,
44:22in other words,
44:23if Pakistan,
44:24People's Party and PMLN,
44:25agree,
44:26which you are saying
44:27After that, we see a political case.
44:31Both agree that Pakistan is moving towards banning Tehreek-e-Insaf.
44:35And it gets banned. Then what?
44:37Look, there are two things.
44:39On one hand, they will go towards banning it.
44:41On the other hand, they will take Article 6 with them.
44:43It won't be separate. They have already reviewed it.
44:45And along with this, there will be a big crackdown on social media influencers.
44:49Which will be in the name of overseas.
44:51Those who are sitting there and funding from abroad.
44:53Here and there.
44:55And the government also has information on it.
44:57These four decisions that have been made.
44:59They have done it with their own thinking.
45:01And the real decision will be of the Supreme Court.
45:04What will be the bench there?
45:06How will the decision be made?
45:08Even if that doesn't happen.
45:10So in Article 6, three judges of the High Court have to make decisions.
45:13So far, I have not seen any attempt to reform.
45:24No freak is ready to take a step back.
45:27Head-on from all sides.
45:29Including Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
45:31He is a real freak.
45:33How can he come out of Pakistan?
45:35But Mr. Rana, do you think that India had given a hint.
45:39That Pakistan can talk to the People's Party.
45:41To make a government, to bring self-confidence and all that.
45:44They left the initial train.
45:47Initially, the People's Party had reached out.
45:49They said, you are corrupt, we don't want to talk to you.
45:52But now if there is an olive branch like this.
45:56From the People's Party.
45:57Will the PTI take it?
45:59No, no.
46:01If the PTI gives the olive branch and the People's Party takes it.
46:04I think the question will be this.
46:06That in the PTI, the emotional statement of Asad Qaisar and another leader.
46:10That now we will also go towards non-confidence.
46:13This is Mr. Khan's decision.
46:14Asad Qaisar did not want to do it.
46:15He could not even make his brother a speaker.
46:17He had left with approval.
46:18You will remember.
46:19So this is what Imran Khan has to decide.
46:22Will he go back to that power?
46:25Every time it is said that the major and the colonel should listen.
46:28I am not listening to you.
46:30He insults the army chief.
46:32He insults Chairman Naib.
46:34He talks like him.
46:36There is no change in his tone.
46:38That I will take such power.
46:40People tell him that now you are in the shade and a revolution is coming.
46:44He is waiting for what I don't think is coming.
46:47Thank you very much.
46:49It was a pleasure having you.
46:51We will go towards the break.
46:52We will come back after the break.
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