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PTI Politicians say Baat Karne Ko Tayya Kiyu Nah Hoti? Salman Akram Raja's Statement
PTI Politicians say Baat Karne Ko Tayya Kiyu Nah Hoti? Salman Akram Raja's Statement
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00:00There are very limited political ways to move forward from here.
00:03The reason for this is that the politicians are not ready to talk to each other.
00:06Mr. Salman, what can be the way forward for PTI?
00:09You are seeing the situation, sometimes there is talk of restrictions, Article 6 will be applied, this will happen, that will happen.
00:14Why don't you engage with politicians?
00:16Politicians should talk to each other and just decide the rules of the game.
00:20No one says that someone should compromise their principle.
00:23Just decide the rules of the game.
00:24This is so innocent that people who want to restrict you, why don't you engage with them?
00:31Do you think they want to end PTI because PTI did not engage with them?
00:37They never had any intention.
00:38Look, the way forward is that all political forces agree that we have to establish democracy in this country,
00:46we have to have a clean and transparent election.
00:49The elections will be held without the shadow of Muqtadara.
00:53No one will be involved in it.
00:55No party will try to achieve positive results with Muqtadara.
01:00If we agree on this, then I think everyone can have a conversation.
01:04If you sit down and talk, you will agree, right?
01:07Let's agree on this one point.
01:09Look, they are talking.
01:11They mean that Imran Khan is kissing someone.
01:15It is possible at every level.
01:17It is happening in the parliament, in committees, in talk shows, in private meetings.
01:23Where is it not happening?
01:24We are saying that all political parties, including those in the government, should agree that we have to follow the rules of the game.
01:36We have to establish democracy in this country.
01:38We are hearing that the Supreme Court's decisions will not be followed.
01:42The first amendment was not followed.
01:44Why were the elections not held on the 90th day?
01:46Mr. Pervez Elahi had the majority of one member in Punjab.
01:50And when is the time when the assembly is broken down and a new election is held?
01:54Do they go to the people?
01:56So, all these circumstances are such that we are seeing that these elected parties have been preparing for the past two years or a year and a half
02:04that we do not have to follow the rules of the game.
02:06We have to end the PTI.
02:08No matter what the reason is, we do not have to listen to the courts.
02:12You are telling us why we should not talk.
02:14I am saying this to you without any doubt that we should talk.
02:20But on what topic should we talk?
02:22And we are talking.
02:23But that talk does not move forward.
02:25When we get an indication that maybe we want to move forward.
02:28Mr. Salman, let me tell you one thing.
02:30If the idea of these talks comes to you.
02:33Mr. Malik has a question.
02:36I will add my question to it.
02:38First, Mr. Malik should ask a question.
02:40I will add my question to it and then you can answer both.
02:42First, Mr. Mehmood Achakzai came to the field.
02:44And everyone said that he has come with plausible deniability.
02:48We are not involved in this.
02:50The next day, he threw him away when he said that he insisted.
02:54So, we said that you talk, we are not a part.
02:56My only question is that I see the problem of PTI.
03:00You can choose your friends at will.
03:02You cannot choose your adversaries at will.
03:05You cannot decide that if my enemy is like this, then I will talk to him.
03:10If he is like this, then I will not talk to him.
03:12You have to play with the clay you have got.
03:14If these people are with you, you say that they have stolen the election,
03:18they want to do this, they want to do that.
03:20Then call their bluff.
03:21Mr. Rana Sinalo gave a statement.
03:24He said that I have talked to people many times off the record.
03:28Then the PTI people told us to formally invite them.
03:31When we formally invited them, they said that we do not talk to you,
03:35we will not shake hands with you.
03:36Now, somewhere they will have to do it.
03:38You cannot choose your enemies.
03:40If they are saying the same thing,
03:42if you think that they are lying and playing a game with you,
03:45then call their bluff in full public view.
03:48You say, yes, let's sit and do formal talks, as Kashif is saying.
03:53This is our agenda that what will be the course of action in the future.
03:56And if after that they do two numbers, then it will be in public view.
04:00I do not know about the private gatherings that you talk about.
04:03No one else knows.
04:05Let me add one thing to this, Mr. Salman.
04:07You will remember that we have also discussed elections with the government.
04:10I will add it, you can pick it up.
04:12Look, it is very easy.
04:13You say that we have a one-point agenda.
04:14Correcting the system of this country.
04:15We will talk that wherever they have done two numbers,
04:18that you are completing this government for us.
04:20This is not the issue.
04:22The issue is that the role of the establishment should end,
04:24there should be free and fair elections, there should be an election candidate.
04:27If they do not listen to you, if they try to hang it,
04:30they say, come out and do a press conference.
04:32They do not want to talk to us.
04:33They say, if I do not cry, etc. etc.
04:35If you think they are bluffing, call their bluff.
04:36Call their bluff.
04:38Okay.
04:39Kashif bhai, in my opinion,
04:40I am coming.
04:41I am coming, Mr. Danyal Choudhary.
04:42You can talk about this.
04:43Yes, Mr. Raja.
04:45You can talk about this.
04:48Mr. Raja, Mr. Raja, your voice is coming.
04:50Yes, hello.
04:51Yes, yes, it is coming.
04:52Yes, yes.
04:53You can talk about this.
04:54You can talk about this.
04:55This is not a very difficult thing.
04:57This is a proof that,
04:59yes, okay, we called them,
05:01we said, come and talk about a fair election,
05:03come and talk about acting on the constitution,
05:05come and talk about acting on the judicial decisions.
05:08They did not agree,
05:09so what should we do now?
05:11This is possible.
05:12If we want to create such an event, then we can do it.
05:16I think you know,
05:18I also know that they will not say,
05:20yes, come, we will do transparent investigations on 8th February,
05:24come, we will give you sessions according to the decision of the Supreme Court.
05:29So this can be done.
05:31I am ready to talk about this further,
05:33I am ready to talk in the party.
05:35We will see what the result is.
05:37But ultimately,
05:38ultimately, what we have to talk about,
05:40we have to do it with the same power,
05:41which has dominated our system without invitation.
05:43It is not that we invite everyone,
05:45that come and dominate,
05:46and we will not be able to return our invitation.
05:48Salman, let's be honest.
05:50One thing, one thing.
05:51No, it is not like that.
05:52Everything is incremental.
05:53If non-politicalā¦
05:54I request you,
05:55they do not come because of the invitation,
05:57they do not come because of the invitation,
05:59there is no invitation.
06:00Look, a whole environment is created,
06:02such politicians are brought forward,
06:04a whole scene is drawn up.
06:07Yes, it was also brought up in 2018.
06:09Sir, if the politicians do not give their shoulders to Salman,
06:12then nothing will happen.
06:14Imran Khan gave his shoulder in 2018.
06:16No, I request you,
06:17look, those new politiciansā¦
06:20Mr. Kashif, please trust me.
06:23I am a student of the history of Pakistan.
06:26You can sit with me on any era.
06:29When they do not get the politicians
06:31who give their shoulders,
06:32then they bring in new politicians
06:34who invite them.
06:35It is not like that.
06:36Who lives in politics,
06:38who does not live in politics,
06:40this is also determined by them.
06:42And those who live in politics,
06:44leave Musharraf-e-Ira.
06:46Mr. Malik, you said something,
06:47leave Musharraf-e-Ira,
06:48in which the Kaf League was formed.
06:49Salman, listen,
06:50there were two parties in the 90s,
06:52both were popular parties,
06:53everyone knows,
06:54one had to win the election,
06:55the other did not.
06:562008 People's Party,
06:5713 Muslim League Noor,
06:5818 Imran Khan.
06:59So, the party created in the last 40 years,
07:02did not come in the democratic era,
07:04if you say the Kaf League,
07:05it came in the martial law era.
07:06You wanted to say something, Mr. Malik.
07:08Look, I am very happy, Salman,
07:10that you said,
07:11even if they do it for the sake of argument,
07:13I think,
07:14when there are certain tactical developments,
07:16then sometimes,
07:17they change the overall strategic plans.
07:20And what you are talking about,
07:22giving space,
07:23all this has increased incrementally,
07:25it will also decrease incrementally,
07:27it is the same thing.
07:28A sense of direction has come,
07:30it seems that the politicians are sitting
07:32and are serious in resolving.
07:34If you also said earlier,
07:36that ultimately they have to do this,
07:38they also say that Imran Khan
07:39ultimately has to lift everything,
07:41then the matter will not move forward,
07:43then you will create space yourself.
07:45I agree with you.
07:46You will create perpetual space,
07:48for every party,
07:49that they stay in the game.
07:51Yes.
07:52Look, we should talk sincerely to each other.
07:55Absolutely, I agree with you.
07:57What you are saying is absolutely correct.
07:59We should definitely try to move forward,
08:01all political forces.
08:03But I am not going to say this
08:05on the basis of the study of history
08:07and the current situation,
08:09I am forced to say on the basis of that,
08:11that they will come,
08:13even if you do not invite them,
08:15they will come.
08:16At the moment,
08:17a system or a system of negation
08:19is prevailing in this country,
08:21in which they have understood their role,
08:23that we are the guardians of Pakistan,
08:25we are the guardians of the economy of Pakistan,
08:27everyone else is a fool.
08:29Sir, everyone has invited them.
08:31Sir, we need a very big dialogue.