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PTI Kis Kisam Ki Muzaahamat Karne Ja Rahi Hai....? Taimur Jhagra's Shocking Statement
PTI Kis Kisam Ki Muzaahamat Karne Ja Rahi Hai....? Taimur Jhagra's Shocking Statement
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00:00Mr. Sena, there is a huge difference between you and the PTI, the People's Party.
00:07Their direction, their stance is different.
00:10Their thinking is different. Your thinking is perhaps different.
00:14Is it right that in the coming times, this thing between the government,
00:20because they are also a part of the government, they are also supporting you,
00:25this thing can come as a big hurdle for Pakistan Muslim League Noon?
00:30Look, the thing is that this political victimization,
00:34which ended after the Charter of Democracy,
00:37which is being rectified, and we didn't just apologize,
00:40the People's Party people also apologized.
00:42If it had happened from both sides, then it was COD.
00:45So, after that, it was a better time.
00:48The 18th Amendment was also implemented.
00:51Other issues were good. In their time, we didn't mess with them, they didn't mess with us.
00:55Even we could have toppled the PTI government in Pakhtunkhwa, but we didn't.
00:58Although it was not a signatory of the Charter of Democracy, still.
01:01So, the thing is that when the Jamaat was in power,
01:06its MNAs and ministers used to come on TV and say that
01:10if we kill 3,000 to 4,000 people of the opposition or hang them,
01:16then the country will be fine.
01:18Everyone has heard this.
01:20The people of this thought were sitting there,
01:23when they went to Saudi Arabia, they said,
01:27Bashir Memon's statement on DGFIA,
01:30what was he doing there, he told them.
01:33So, these are the kind of people.
01:36And then what happened on 9th May,
01:38if you think that we should leave people on 9th May,
01:44then will you keep this in mind or will it happen again?
01:47No, but if we don't leave them, then we should make strong cases.
01:50No, the case should be right.
01:52No wrong case should be made on anyone.
01:54I agree with you.
01:55No one should be victimized.
01:59And the women, I also agree with you that
02:02women should be treated better in our society.
02:07The PTI has ruined this.
02:09The victimization has started with the PTI.
02:12And this is a continuation of that.
02:15So, our brothers, Mr. Jagda is saying that
02:20there is a 17 seat government.
02:22So, the RTS government of 2018,
02:24he is saying that we should not count that.
02:27When our government came in 2013,
02:29Let's count both of them.
02:31No, I am telling you about 2013.
02:33They did so many protests and did nothing.
02:36When the case went to the Supreme Court,
02:38the Supreme Court said that
02:40there was no systematic rigging in 2013.
02:42So, who laid the foundation for this hybrid system?
02:44It was Imran Khan.
02:46And today, he is eating the fruits of that.
02:49Will he stay in Adyala, Mr. Sen?
02:52In the near future, it seems so.
02:55Not in the near future, in the near future.
02:57Sorry, in the near future.
02:59In the near future, he is there.
03:01In the near future.
03:02So, how much in the near future?
03:04I don't think that he will come out this year.
03:06One whole year.
03:07This year is difficult.
03:08And the next year?
03:09See, next year…
03:11The situation of Pakistan and the world can change very fast.
03:16What do you mean by the situation of the world?
03:18I am able to understand what you are trying to say.
03:20What do you mean by the situation of the world?
03:22You are not pointing towards the US elections.
03:24See, there is an international establishment
03:28and there are many other issues with it.
03:32No one can deny that.
03:34But I can't see it right now.
03:35You are continuously accusing the PTI
03:37that they are getting external support.
03:39Do you have any evidence?
03:40There is evidence of foreign funding.
03:42What do you mean by foreign funding?
03:43Aranjit Singh's and Rumita Shetty's money.
03:46If someone else had taken it, she would have been hanged by now.
03:49They are roaming around with it and giving speeches.
03:51What do the rest of the people have to do with it?
03:52The government is yours, you can't complain.
03:54How can we complain?
03:55It is the job of the courts.
03:56We don't have to punish anyone.
03:57The courts have to punish.
03:58We don't have to bring someone and start punishing.
04:01The thing is that foreign funding is proven on them.
04:04They are doing a drama of cypher.
04:07And next year, they will take the U.S. Resolution in their own hands.
04:10This is also a unique case.
04:12You tell me if someone else can do it.
04:13Mr. Jagra is smiling.
04:14This is amazing.
04:16Mr. Jagra knows the whole game.
04:18Mr. Jagra, you know the game.
04:20First, tell us about it.
04:21Secondly, tell us about it.
04:23Barrister Gauhar says that we will protest.
04:26We will proceed slowly.
04:28Mr. Asad Kehsa says no protest.
04:30Now we will protest.
04:32What kind of protest will we see in the near future?
04:37Barrister Gauhar is a decent person.
04:41I agree with Mr. Asad Kehsa.
04:43I think the time has come.
04:46In all this time, PTI has done a lot.
04:52Our seats have been stolen.
04:54They have been unjust to us for a year.
04:56They made false statements about us.
04:59They called us anti-state.
05:01They put Imran Khan in jail.
05:03Their statements have been rejected by the people of Pakistan.
05:07There is an expression in English.
05:09Their symbol is a tiger.
05:11Catching a tiger by the tail.
05:13When you catch a tiger by the tail, you don't know...
05:17Mr. Jagra, the tiger is yours.
05:20Catching the tiger by the tail is the opposite.
05:24They don't know how to save their politics.
05:32If there is no political opposition,
05:40what they are doing to the people,
05:42the people will do the same to them.
05:45The elections that took place in the UK,
05:48and what happened with the Conservative Party,
05:50after the inflation,
05:52you should forget that.
05:53I came to inflation in the second segment.
05:55But I didn't see anything good happening with PTI in KPK.
06:00Didn't you vote?
06:02No.
06:03We are in fourth place.
06:04You are not in second or third place.
06:06You are in fourth place.
06:07Yes.
06:08I am in black and white.
06:10Our voters don't like our decision-making.
06:14This is the basis of PTI voters.
06:18This is a part of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's political culture.
06:22This was controversial from the beginning.
06:27The boy who was supposed to get the ticket,
06:30Rehan Zeb,
06:31he got it later.
06:33He didn't get the ticket,
06:34and his brother didn't get it.
06:35After his death,
06:36you deprived his brother as well.
06:38This is called dynamic acclaim.
06:41The boy who wins,
06:44he is an ANP.
06:47But his sensibilities,
06:51are similar to PTM.
06:53If you look at this entire strip of Fatah,
06:57and the sad death of another boy,
07:02Qalamand Wazir,
07:04if you look at his funeral,
07:06this government,
07:08they are losing touch
07:10with the people of Pakistan.
07:12They are losing touch with the people of Pakistan.
07:14Especially in those areas
07:16where they should put a hand on people.
07:18They don't realize what is happening there.
07:21Are you admitting that the KPK government
07:24is not able to convince those areas?
07:26Because the federal government is lagging behind.
07:29They are in the 18th term.
07:30You have a lot of responsibilities now.
07:32They haven't been taxed yet.
07:34If this was not such a serious issue,
07:38when the people there raise their fingers,
07:41they will raise their fingers
07:43on the state government as well as the federal government.
07:45So you are saying both are failing?
07:48This issue is very serious.
07:50If you have given us a chance,
07:52then it is important to talk about it.
07:54Because the people of Fatah
07:56have been ignored for 75 years.
07:58I came back to this country myself.
08:00It has been 6 years.
08:02But I have seen a difference between Fatah
08:04and the rest of Pakistan.
08:06Today they are ready to operate there.
08:10But the people of Fatah
08:12cannot be allowed to face more.
08:14They cannot face terrorism again.
08:16Terrorists cannot be allowed to come.
08:18In Afghanistan,
08:20there are proper training camps
08:22under the TTP of the Afghan government.
08:26I will come back to this topic.
08:28But Mr. Hassan,
08:30in this whole situation,
08:32one thing has become very clear.
08:34Our politics will remain a victim of unrest.
08:36And as long as politics remains a victim of unrest,
08:39it is not confirmed to us
08:41that even if Mr. Imran Khan comes out of jail,
08:43somehow or the other,
08:45which Mr. Afnan is saying,
08:47even if he comes out of jail,
08:49what guarantee do we have
08:51that Pakistan's politics will be stable?
08:56Neither Mr. Afnan nor I should know
09:00how long he will remain in jail.
09:03It is the work of the courts.
09:05I was just saying the same thing.
09:08When there was a time of justice,
09:10his ancestors used to sit on TV
09:12and say that this week
09:14this and that will be arrested.
09:16And we will not leave them.
09:18If we repeat them,
09:20then it is not appropriate.
09:22It was wrong then and it is still wrong.