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PTI Ka Hukumat Par Azad MNA's ko Gayeb karanay Ka Ilazm | Taimur Jhagra's Analysis
PTI Ka Hukumat Par Azad MNA's ko Gayeb karanay Ka Ilazm | Taimur Jhagra's Analysis
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00:00On 25th June, Mr. Rana said that even if the case of Iddat is decided in his favour, he will still be in jail.
00:11Have you decided to keep him in jail, irrespective of the law?
00:16In the name of Allah, the most merciful.
00:18Mr. Rana has said this on the basis that he knows that the crimes that have been committed in this country for 4 years,
00:26there are so many cases against him that it is difficult for him to come out.
00:30Whether it is a case of $190 million, a case of corruption,
00:34whether it is an abuse of authority, or DC has put AC,
00:39when you have done such a thing, you have taken 420 canals of land and give a businessman a benefit of 40,000 rupees.
00:44If you have done such a thing, then you have also done the drama of cipher, and I don't know what else, you have also taken foreign funding.
00:50So, obviously, you will stay inside, it is difficult for you to come out.
00:53There were three important cases, four basically.
00:55Tosha Khana, cipher case, Al-Qadr Trust case, and obviously the case of $190 million.
01:01In all these cases, we are still getting relief again and again.
01:05The case of Iddat was probably the weakest, and maybe it was very personal, it should not have gone to him.
01:10It is not a government case.
01:11I understand that it is not a government case, but maybe it should not have gone to him.
01:15But these are four cases.
01:16In these four cases, which one did you take, which you are saying that they will have to bear the consequences of their crimes.
01:22Either prove it and show it by strengthening the prosecution.
01:25Look, the thing is that you are saying that the prosecution needs to improve.
01:30There are some cases which are completely open and shut cases.
01:33The case of 190 million pounds is an open and shut case.
01:37So, I think it should be pursued properly.
01:41Is it being done or not?
01:43Look, I think there is still room for improvement and work is being done on it.
01:47Because if this continues to be a legal matter, then there is a setback for the government one after the other.
01:51So, it needs to be reviewed and it is being reviewed.
01:55Okay.
01:56On one legal side, the relief that has just been received by Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
01:59there is also a work of the government's legal team, Blunder, I will come to that later.
02:04But Mr. Chakra, your MNAs are disappearing.
02:07You have directly said that this is the work of the government, they are arresting.
02:10They are arresting our MNAs who are going to give false statements that we are with Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
02:15Do you think that at this time there is still any fear of PTI?
02:20That some MNA will go here and there?
02:22Because those independent MNAs, around 40, can go to any side.
02:27There is still a possibility.
02:29They do not have a community yet.
02:33Look, MNAs will not go anywhere.
02:36There is a lot that after 9th May, which takes PMLN credit and also removes itself,
02:45that this cartoon is doing its job, we are not doing it.
02:48But what they did to the worst political victimization in the history of Pakistan,
02:56which was not only against PTI and they tried to take advantage of press conferences,
03:03they spread red carpets for Nawaz Sharif,
03:07they made two new parties so that the PTI vote is split,
03:14and in the end they made a government on 17 seats,
03:18so there is no doubt that this is their work.
03:22Now, they did not want to stop here either,
03:27that the seats that are not even reserved for them,
03:31that they should not do this, but why will they stop?
03:35Because they know that when the government is on 17 seats,
03:39then you will only do 2018, 2018, 2018,
03:42and now see, Mr. Afnan will definitely give it to us,
03:46because they do not have any defense.
03:48So our MNAs will not go anywhere,
03:51but there is a track record of the government.
03:55Okay, they said that Imran Khan has big cases,
03:58today there were big cases on Sanam Javed too.
04:01Mr. Afnan, please clarify what is the policy on their women.
04:06Okay, we will come to the policy of women.
04:09Okay, we will come to the policy of women.
04:12Daughters, mothers, sisters, everyone has a sister,
04:14but obviously crime is a crime, if there is proof,
04:17if there is no proof, then it is wrong to send someone to jail.
04:20But Mr. Hassan Murtaza, the biggest challenge at this time is for you,
04:24for the Pakistan People's Party.
04:25The Pakistan People's Party always talks about democracy.
04:28The PTI says that there is nothing called democracy,
04:30the government that is sitting at this time, that is completely undemocratic.
04:34And if this is added to the statements of the government,
04:38that Mr. Khan should stay in jail, and should stay there,
04:42until the politics of his individualism is not over,
04:45until there is a pause in the politics of his dissolution,
04:49then this is not understood.
04:52Mr. Hassan Murtaza, does the Pakistan People's Party support this?
04:57That the PTI should be kept in jail in the same way.
05:02Does he deserve this, legally?
05:08Thank you very much, Anika, for your time.
05:12The situation is that the Pakistan People's Party is a democratic party,
05:16and we think that the Pakistan People's Party has always respected public decisions.
05:23The Pakistan People's Party has never,
05:28if there is anything in our politics called victimization,
05:32then no friend can bring it forward.
05:35The People's Party, in its bad time,
05:38when cases were made against us,
05:41Mr. Rehman used to make them,
05:43he used to make them from other references.
05:46When we used to say that these new laws are not right,
05:49when the time of Bibi Shaheed was there,
05:52and the kind of victimization that he had,
05:55is in front of you.
05:57When Bibi used to go to jail,
05:59then that bench used to be taken up,
06:01on which she used to sit one date before going.
06:05Even then we used to say to the friends of PMLN,
06:09that this victimization or this politics is not right.
06:15This is a loss for you,
06:17this is a loss for the politics of Pakistan,
06:19this is a loss for the democracy.
06:22They didn't listen to us.
06:24A time came when we had to sit and sign COD,
06:29when we had to apologize to Ittisabur Rehman,
06:34on which Mr. Mian also expressed his shame,
06:37that the incidents have been unjustified,
06:39but we should forget the past.
06:42Mr. Hassan, I'm sorry I'm cutting you short,
06:45but just let me add one thing,
06:48here you won't see any situation of MISA's democracy.
06:52They are clearly saying that we don't want to sit with the corrupt parties.
06:55So let's say that PMLN sat with you for MISA's democracy,
06:58won't it sit behind you?
07:00Look, we are not afraid of this at all.
07:04We used to say to them as well,
07:06that what you are doing is not appropriate.
07:09You need to be convinced of something or the other in the courts,
07:16and leave these things to someone's mercy.
07:20These things are not the job of the government,
07:23that their ministers sit on TV and release lists,
07:27that this week this and that person will be arrested.
07:31You don't have the right to arrest our women.
07:36You don't have the right,
07:39and this is a loss for you as well,
07:41that you unnecessarily assassinate people.
07:44No one has given you this right.
07:47We used to say that we don't agree,
07:49and then they saw the bad time as well.
07:51Now in the coming time,
07:53we will say that we should not stop any corruption.
07:58We should not cover it up.
08:00Whoever is corrupt, should be arrested and put behind bars.
08:05The state is the mother for no reason.
08:09It is not the job of the state to do this.
08:12Your department, your institutions are there,
08:15they should also investigate,
08:17they should also catch thieves,
08:19they should also catch bribe takers.
08:22Let me get back to you.
08:24You are saying that criminals should be treated like criminals,
08:28but political victimization should not be done.