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"PTI Govt main Pakistan Saudia Arabia Say bhi Zada Qeemat par Baich Raha Tha"Ali Pervaiz Malik
"PTI Govt main Pakistan Saudia Arabia Say bhi Zada Qeemat par Baich Raha Tha"Ali Pervaiz Malik
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00:00And especially on the side of our western borders.
00:03It is very important.
00:04Do you remember, at some point in time,
00:05Forex, USD, was going to Afghanistan,
00:08it was going at full capacity.
00:10And it used to become a good amount in a day.
00:13They said, you should straighten up the Forex market.
00:16They clearly said that you should bring transparency.
00:18This Hundi, Hawala, taking money out illegally,
00:22how will this stop?
00:24There is a massive market for that.
00:25No, no.
00:26The first thing in this is that they are right.
00:28This grey channel should end.
00:30There is no debate on this.
00:31Absolutely.
00:32Now, there are two aspects to this.
00:33When you go to the IMF program,
00:35they will remove your dearth of exchange
00:39so that people who want to do business above board,
00:42they should have this foreign exchange
00:45so that they can do business.
00:46Because necessity is also the mother of invention.
00:50So, if you don't provide them an operating environment,
00:53then people will find these thieves' doors.
00:56The first thing is that you should liberalize the business environment.
00:59The second thing is that your money exchanges,
01:02through enforcement and vigilance,
01:05you should get biometric reporting done from them.
01:09You should improve your vigilance with them.
01:11And along with that, you should increase capital requirements
01:15and close these mom and pop exchanges
01:17and try to formalize it.
01:19So, today, not all the bank exchange companies are opening.
01:22If you go there, don't you get currency?
01:25Of course, you do.
01:26But you have to do biometric reporting.
01:28Even then, it is a big market.
01:30Then, that is an enforcement problem.
01:34So, we have to improve enforcement not only on the hundi market,
01:37we have to improve enforcement on taxation,
01:40we have to improve it on customs,
01:41we have to do it everywhere.
01:42So, you can do that through technology.
01:45So, today, Shabaz Sharif,
01:46I am telling you,
01:47if you tell me one example,
01:49that a Wazir-e-Azam Waqt
01:51gives so much importance and importance to your tax authority
01:55that he himself comes to his office
01:57and takes detailed presentations.
02:00Does he have any other option?
02:01The problem is not that the Wazir-e-Azam is giving so much importance.
02:04Apart from this, does Pakistan have any other way?
02:07Did the Prime Minister,
02:09who entered into the 20th IMF program,
02:11have any other option?
02:13He found an option, didn't he?
02:15When he decided not to reform
02:18and pushed the can further.
02:21So, the demand is that there are always options.
02:24You have to own the process,
02:26you have to take the bull by the horn
02:28and that is exactly what Prime Minister Shabaz Sharif is doing
02:31so that this thing is limited to words
02:35that this is the last IMF program.
02:37If we have to make this IMF program,
02:39then we have to supplement this program
02:42with your sustained reforms.
02:46And Shabaz Sharif's coming to the FBR today
02:50signifies that he understands the importance of this institution
02:55and how this institution has to increase its enforcement capability
03:00through modern tools and digitization
03:03so that it becomes the last program.
03:05Let's move on to another topic.
03:07In the morning, the IMF said
03:09that you have to improve your tax collection.
03:12And the 18th amendment was implemented.
03:15A lot of benefits went to the provinces
03:17but the responsibilities were not fulfilled.
03:19Agreed.
03:20This will be a very unpopular decision
03:22because it will involve different parties
03:24from Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, KPK
03:26and there will be challenges from different parties.
03:28Some will be your allies, some will be you,
03:30some will be people sitting in the opposition.
03:32How will we deal with this?
03:33How are we going to ensure it?
03:34Look, Anika, with your help,
03:36when all these issues will be kept in front of the media
03:40and the interests of the state,
03:42isn't it a fact today
03:44that even in India, tax to GDP is 10-11% at the federal level
03:49and the provinces generate 5% of their own revenue.
03:53Isn't it a fact that in Pakistan,
03:55our tax to GDP at the federal level is not that bad
03:58and our provinces don't mobilize their resources
04:01and there is an imbalance of resources.
04:04There is a capacity.
04:05Look, we will have to increase it.
04:07Some divine creature will come and help us.
04:10How much will it cost you?
04:11Look, my request is that
04:13first of all, you have to acknowledge the problem.
04:16If you acknowledge it and work with good intentions,
04:20you will get solutions
04:21because today, there is modern technology
04:24which helps you a lot in these things.
04:27This is what we are doing in FBR through digitization
04:30that today, 5 million new filers' data
04:32were presented to the Prime Minister
04:34who have property,
04:35who have cars,
04:37who spend 2 lakh rupees per month on their credit card,
04:40who travel abroad,
04:41who have iPhones
04:43and all these things are now available to you through data.
04:46It is just the will that you have to show
04:48that you are ready to walk on this path.
04:50You didn't even need an NPM number, right?
04:52You had a CNIC number,
04:54so you could easily make everyone a filer.
04:56So what are you doing?
04:58Why are you inviting everyone to become a filer?
05:00You are not supporting CNIC.
05:01Absolutely not.
05:02We are taking a carrot and stick policy.
05:04If you are a non-filer,
05:06you will have to pay three times more tax.
05:08So you are encouraged to become a filer.
05:11And if you don't become a filer,
05:13the data that we have,
05:15the consumption data,
05:16to which I am pointing,
05:18the 5 million people who own properties,
05:20who invest in the stock market,
05:21who own cars,
05:22they are sophisticated people.
05:24They are affluent people.
05:25They have cyber status.
05:27If we capture them and bring them to the tax net through enforcement,
05:31then what else is there?
05:32This is the carrot and stick policy.
05:33And this is the way
05:35by which you can reduce the burden of the unemployed.
05:38And this indirect taxation,
05:40which is regressive,
05:41can be reduced slowly
05:42when you are widening your base.
05:44That is what is being done.
05:45Let's move a little bit towards the political side.
05:48Mr. Nawaz Sharif called for a meeting on Monday
05:51in which he will discuss the next strategy.
05:54The government has not been able to build a narrative yet.
05:57In any form,
05:59the narrative of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf is going much further than you.
06:02They have also had two legal victories recently.
06:06How will the government be able to build a narrative from here?
06:08What will it do?
06:09The majority has the largest community behind it.
06:12Anika,
06:13making a narrative
06:14and setting fire to the state behind that narrative
06:18is not in the DNA of Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz.
06:21Mr. Nawaz Sharif has always served politics
06:24and has brought Pakistan out of its problems.
06:28Today,
06:29Pakistan is one of those explosive tunnels of Tehrik-e-Insaf
06:32in which Pakistan was selling diesel at a price
06:35that Saudi Arabia was not even selling
06:37when the government of Pakistan found out
06:39that they were going to be dislodged through vote of no confidence.
06:42So, on one side is that politics,
06:44on the other side is that community
06:46which, using its political capital,
06:49has given this country an incentive.
06:51And this incentive
06:52will not only come from making a narrative on books and TV.
06:56The 40% inflation that came above 12%
06:59was due to hard work and service.
07:01Today,
07:02to anchor this,
07:03to give it permanence,
07:05the decisions that were made,
07:06which IMF is acknowledging today,
07:08which is your internal capital...
07:11You still could not make a narrative.
07:13I am sorry.
07:14You might be right,
07:15but make a narrative.
07:16Our narrative may not be as alluring as Mr. Imran Khan's,
07:22but our services are in front of the people
07:25and the world is admiring it.
07:27The world is admiring it.
07:28Yes, absolutely right.
07:29So, I am telling you
07:30that if the world is admiring it,
07:31the stock market is touching the skies,
07:33the investors of the world are coming to you,
07:35the Mutti Ratings Agency is saying
07:37that you are on the right track.
07:38Inflation has come above 40% to 12%.
07:41You are walking on this track
07:43that benefits the common man.
07:45In your cheap roti,
07:46in your cheap ghee,
07:48you can see all the cheap commodities.
07:50Your government is instigating electricity
07:53with the price of electricity.
07:55I am sorry.
07:56It is not a movement in the right direction.
07:58When you are saying it,
07:59a minimum wage earner,
08:01who does not get Rs. 37,000 by the way,
08:03there are very few people who get minimum wage.
08:05Ask a person earning Rs. 37,000
08:06where he is getting cheap flour,
08:08cheap oil,
08:09things are not available in utility stores.
08:11There is a massive difference
08:13that is being talked about
08:14and the on-ground reality,
08:15there is a big difference in that, Mr. Malik.
08:17Fill that distance.
08:20The matter will be solved.
08:21Anika, I did not say this anywhere.
08:23You can watch this show again
08:25that the rivers of milk and honey have started flowing.
08:28I told you,
08:29the place where Mr. Imran Khan left this country,
08:34where Pakistan's default was written on the wall,
08:38with IMF,
08:39your minister was caught
08:41talking on the phone
08:42about how to sabotage the IMF program.
08:45People were caught attacking GHQ.
08:48Is Pakistan's situation better or worse than it was then?
08:52That is the thought that I am leaving with you.
08:54And Mr. Shibaz Sharif,
08:55day and night,
08:57he has decided
08:58that Pakistan has to move forward
09:00on this track of sabotage
09:02so that Pakistan can get its place.
09:04Tell me,
09:05do you see Mr. Imran Khan coming out of jail or not?
09:08Look,
09:09I know that
09:10when Mr. Nawaz Sharif was punished,
09:13such a forum,
09:14such a summary trial was given
09:16in which he did not have a forum for appeal.
09:19The punishments that Mr. Imran Khan has received,
09:22he has the doors of the superior courts.
09:24He can go,
09:25make his statement,
09:26make his defense,
09:28and if there is any injustice being done to him,
09:30he should get complete relief.
09:31There is no two ways about it.
09:33Pakistan needs to move beyond
09:35this political victimization.
09:37Today,
09:38there is a need for unity.
09:40And the enemies of the state
09:44and the hatred that has been sowed in our ranks,
09:47there is a need to end it.
09:49And for that,
09:50whoever takes the first step,
09:52I assure him on behalf of my leadership
09:54that God willing,
09:55we are ready to walk on that path.