The Vergecast builds a tech company | The Vergecast

  • last month
The Verge's David Pierce, Nilay Patel, and Alex Cranz roleplay as CEOs of Vergecast Inc., tasked with creating a tech company by acquiring product lines from various industry giants. They select established products ranging from smartphones and PCs to messaging and audio solutions, sourced from companies such as Apple, Google, Amazon, Samsung, Meta, and others.
Transcript
00:00- Welcome to "The Vergecast,"
00:01the flagship podcast of
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined5
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlooking at my television?
00:23Yes, but it's July 4th,
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined15
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedand I are going to,
00:36as a group of CEOs,
00:38which couldn't possibly
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined23
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthe best products in tech?
00:55What can I take? What can I put together?
00:56What could we build that would be cool
00:58and different and that
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined32
undefined:undefined33
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlook at the tech industry.
01:15I should also say some credit
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined38
undefined:undefined39
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedand picked actors and writers
01:30and it was a very fun episode,
01:32and so I just kind of stole that concept,
01:34and we're going to take it and turn it
01:36and do something similar
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined48
undefined:undefined49
undefined:undefined50
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcoming up in just a second,
02:00but first I just noticed
02:02that I turned the grill on
02:03without actually turning the propane on.
02:05So this is how good I am at grilling.
02:08I'm gonna go fix that problem.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined70
undefined:undefined71
undefined:undefined72
undefined:undefined73
undefined:undefined74
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedco-CEOs of a tech company
02:36because I would say
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined78
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined(Alex laughing)
02:45- [David] What if you
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined83
undefined:undefined84
undefined:undefined85
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedeither 10 or 11 categories
02:58here that we as as a tech company,
02:59are going to enter by taking
03:01that product from another company.
03:04There are several rules.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined92
undefined:undefined93
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedit's selling, whoever it is
03:16that makes it, all the factory deals,
03:18all the marketing stuff, everything.
03:19We can change it as we like, but we get,
03:21we don't get the idea of it.
03:23We get the thing as it is right now.
03:24We only care about things up to 2030.
03:28After that, who knows?
03:29We're all gonna live on Mars.
03:30So we're playing like a
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined105
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedinvesting from like day one here.
03:43(Alex laughing)
03:44It's gonna be great.
03:45We can spend as much money as we want,
03:47but making money is not the point.
03:50We're actually not gonna talk about
03:51money at all on this show.
03:53- [Alex] Okay.
03:53- [David] We don't wanna
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined125
undefined:undefined126
undefined:undefined127
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedyears Jeff Bezos was like,
04:20"I can make money whenever I feel like it,
04:21for now I'm just gonna
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined140
undefined:undefined141
undefined:undefined142
undefined:undefined143
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedbe very complicated.
04:42That product also cannot
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined149
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthing we might want to take,
04:54but if you take Figma from Figma,
04:55there is no Figma anymore.
04:56So that doesn't count.
04:57- [Nilay] Well what
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined156
undefined:undefined157
undefined:undefined158
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedoh, here's a good example.
05:08Like we can't take
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined164
undefined:undefined165
undefined:undefined166
undefined:undefined167
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthis is not competitive.
05:27We are three CEOs.
05:28We are doing this together,
05:30and so we have to agree on everything
05:31that we're going to take,
05:32which I assume means this
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined179
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedperfect, I can't believe
05:47no one has thought of this before.
05:48- [Alex] Yeah. Why are
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined186
undefined:undefined187
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined189
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwhich is not specific apps,
06:03but think of like app businesses,
06:05like Microsoft Office is one
06:07of the options in that category,
06:08and then we're going to do
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined202
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinednumber one is smartphones.
06:28This to me is maybe the easiest,
06:30but also maybe the most
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined213
undefined:undefined214
undefined:undefined215
undefined:undefined216
undefined:undefined217
undefined:undefined218
undefined:undefined219
undefined:undefined220
undefined:undefined221
undefined:undefined222
undefined:undefined223
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedyou want to get on, like.
06:51- [Alex] Yeah.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined227
undefined:undefined228
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddon't care about money,
07:00then you might have a
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined236
undefined:undefined237
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedis that there are a lot
07:21of categories here in which
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined247
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedallowed to change stuff?
07:38- [David] Yeah, we're good.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined256
undefined:undefined257
undefined:undefined258
undefined:undefined259
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedshe's like, "This isn't the tech
07:56company I would've built."
07:58(David laughing)
07:58- [Alex] We're not even gonna be allowed
07:59to make a company.
08:00Lina Kahn's like, "Nope. No, not this."
08:01- [Nilay] Your fake
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined271
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedI had here were Samsung,
08:09which I think is probably the only other
08:10reasonable competitor here.
08:12The Google Pixel.
08:13If you're, you know,
08:14feeling good about
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined279
undefined:undefined280
undefined:undefined281
undefined:undefined282
undefined:undefined283
undefined:undefined284
undefined:undefined285
undefined:undefined286
undefined:undefined287
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedI think it's possible
08:35to maybe want to pick an
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined291
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedengine of the business,
08:51which it feels like probably is true,
08:53then we want the iPhone.
08:55- [Nilay] I mean alternatively
08:56the one that I would've argued for
08:58would've been the Pixel
08:59because then the one thing you
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined305
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcaring goes a long way.
09:15- [Alex] Yeah, that's true. That's true.
09:16- [Nilay] He's also trying to market
09:17the phone would be useful.
09:19- [David] I mean, yeah,
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined314
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedbut it's also very successful.
09:30I think the answer is just the iPhone.
09:31I don't know that we need to
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined319
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedbusiness or a monopoly.
09:41(Alex laughing)
09:42- [Nilay] Wait, we are not
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined326
undefined:undefined327
undefined:undefined328
undefined:undefined329
undefined:undefined330
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsimilar set of companies,
10:04but I would say that
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined341
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedSurface as a tablet line,
10:25but I think I won't count that.
10:26We'll get to that in a minute.
10:27What do you guys think?
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined352
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwe don't take the iPad,
10:42we don't get iPad OS.
10:43- [Alex] We're gonna use iOS to put on,
10:45put that on the books.
10:47- [Nilay] Oh, and then
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined370
undefined:undefined371
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedof Directors meeting
11:17will be very confusing.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined380
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedmoney with that acquisition.
11:30- [David] But we can solve the lock-in.
11:32Remember Android is open source.
11:34So Android is fair game
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined387
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthe real question is like,
11:41who is better at making the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined394
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthe Kindle. That's right.
11:58- [Nilay] I feel good about that.
12:00- [David] Yeah.
12:00- [Alex] We're doing the Kindle,
12:01and we're gonna make it good now.
12:02- [David] It's a real
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined405
undefined:undefined406
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedis like the extended Kindle.
12:14- [David] The Kindle universe we get.
12:16- [Alex] Yeah.
12:17- [David] All this class of
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined414
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedjust make a nice e-reader
12:30on the side that runs iOS.
12:31- [Nilay] Yeah, and then I can
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined420
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlike making a really good
12:42culturally important company
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined426
undefined:undefined427
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined429
undefined:undefined430
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedphone with our iPhone team?
12:59(Alex laughing)
13:01- [Nilay] Which part?
13:02Are we like-
13:03- [Alex] The 3D display.
13:04- [Nilay] We've already added
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined441
undefined:undefined442
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined444
undefined:undefined445
undefined:undefined446
undefined:undefined447
undefined:undefined448
undefined:undefined449
undefined:undefined450
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedof all of the spamware
13:30that they like automatically install,
13:33you have some really nice laptops.
13:35- [Nilay] You got really nice hardware.
13:36- [Alex] Yeah, you got
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined460
undefined:undefined461
undefined:undefined462
undefined:undefined463
undefined:undefined464
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwe can do this, too.
13:56- [Nilay] But we don't have the chips.
13:58I guess we do
13:59'cause we have the iPhone.
14:00So now we just put a hinge
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined474
undefined:undefined475
undefined:undefined476
undefined:undefined477
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedof the operating system.
14:19That's where I go to.
14:21- Right, and I want the surface line.
14:22- [Alex] I don't.
14:23- [Nilay] Now I've pulled the tablet
14:25ecosystem bigger, right?
14:26- [Alex] Yeah.
14:27- [Nilay] I've got my
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined492
undefined:undefined493
undefined:undefined494
undefined:undefined495
undefined:undefined496
undefined:undefined330
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpower of one Raspberry Pi 4.
15:03(Alex laughing)
15:04Yeah, my vote. We, David,
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined514
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedWindows and make it good.
15:15- [David] The one wrench
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined522
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsecurity and write try hard.
15:32- [David] I will say though,
15:33under the rules of this game though,
15:34I don't, I think what we're getting
15:36is like a perpetual license to Windows.
15:38I don't think we're getting-
15:39- [Nilay] Even inside my,
15:40that's probably how the service team.
15:41- [David] Yeah.
15:42I don't think we get to run Windows.
15:42- [Nilay] But so when we took the iPhone,
15:44we don't get to run iOS.
15:45- [Alex] No, we do. That one counts.
15:47- [David] It does, it feels different.
15:48I can't describe to you why.
15:49No, it's because it's one
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined541
undefined:undefined542
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedVergecast Incorporated.
16:03We're not taking Windows from Microsoft.
16:06- [Nilay] Ah.
16:07- [David] I still think it's Microsoft,
16:08just because I think
16:09we're clearly building
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined555
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcoat of paint on there.
16:30- [David] Get the yogas.
16:31So you guys want some yogas?
16:32- [Alex] Yeah.
16:32- [David] They do the flippy things.
16:33I'm gonna make tent
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined571
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedknow what you think those
16:49things are, but we'll come back to it.
16:51- [David] Think of all the boring things
16:52that make you the most valuable
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined586
undefined:undefined587
undefined:undefined588
undefined:undefined589
undefined:undefined590
undefined:undefined591
undefined:undefined592
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinediPhone, the Amazon Kindle,
17:26and Lenovo's set of PCs.
17:29I feel like we're doing very well so far.
17:31I'm excited about this
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined602
undefined:undefined603
undefined:undefined604
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpay structure, by the way,
17:47as co-CEOs, but we'll come back to that.
17:49It's gonna be very lucrative for us,
17:50because again, we're
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined610
undefined:undefined611
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcompetitive category
18:01of all the ones we're
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined616
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedApple Watch or the Vision Pro.
18:10We can't do all of Amazon's
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined620
undefined:undefined621
undefined:undefined622
undefined:undefined370
undefined:undefined624
undefined:undefined625
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedshould definitely get into?
18:33- [Nilay] I have a clear favorite here.
18:34Out the gate,
18:35I'm going bold and taking
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined632
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedglasses are a different thing.
18:53- [Nilay] Get your face
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined655
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedyear time horizon, it's like.
19:26- [Alex] Hmm.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined664
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined666
undefined:undefined667
undefined:undefined668
undefined:undefined669
undefined:undefined670
undefined:undefined671
undefined:undefined672
undefined:undefined673
undefined:undefined674
undefined:undefined675
undefined:undefined676
undefined:undefined677
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsneakily, fascinating company
19:58and they're way ahead in Smart Rings.
20:01Smart Rings are a lot of people think,
20:03including our own V song
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined686
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedkind of the same reasons,
20:15like what if we can
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined693
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwhen we did this was Snap
20:28because I want the spectacles line,
20:30but I think we go Ray-Ban
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined701
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthat actually holds a bunch
20:57of these companies back,
20:58is they cannot communicate
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined722
undefined:undefined723
undefined:undefined187
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedif that on a six year time
21:25horizon, maybe that is a better move than
21:28take the Meta Ray-Bands and
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined733
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwhy like the glasses,
21:42we get them properly
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined738
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineda CEO for 20 minutes.
21:57You are already super corporate.
21:59- [Alex] Yeah, and we need
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined747
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedhappens to everybody.
22:10- [Alex] It'd be just immediate.
22:11Yeah, but the Garmin,
22:13like the Garmin has so
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined753
undefined:undefined754
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedbuttons off it. You know?
22:30(all laughing)
22:32- [David] That's true.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined767
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedand people really like them,
22:53and I think our ability to
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined776
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedimmediately make these things much
23:07cooler in a way that I
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined780
undefined:undefined781
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedbe more than six years.
23:16- [Nilay] Garmin, please
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined788
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedmore than half of your revenue.
23:33(Alex laughing)
23:34- [Nilay] Yeah, also, the smart
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined797
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedof feelings in general,
23:47but it's okay.
23:49We're doing it.
23:50- [Nilay] We now know
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined807
undefined:undefined808
undefined:undefined611
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinednot a problem at all.
24:04I should have said at the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined815
undefined:undefined816
undefined:undefined817
undefined:undefined818
undefined:undefined819
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined821
undefined:undefined822
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthat's really what I've been
24:22after this whole time is
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined828
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedtime any of this comes out,
24:31it'll be past 2030.
24:32We'll be out anyway. It's fine.
24:33- [Alex] Yeah.
24:34- [David] I'm not worried about it.
24:35Alright, next category is headphones,
24:37and here again, we're pretty wide open.
24:39Apple is off the board,
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined839
undefined:undefined840
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedknows that it owns Beats,
24:49so we're just gonna let it ride,
24:51but there's also obvious players here.
24:52Bose and Sony, and Sonos is a new one.
24:55- [Alex] Just headphones though.
24:56- [David] We'll, no,
24:57we'll make this headphones/speakers.
24:59We'll go Audio solutions.
25:00- [Nilay] Oh my gosh.
25:01- [David] In Alex Grand's book.
25:02- [Alex] I think you know exactly
25:03where we're going with this.
25:04- [David] Nilay is gonna
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined859
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthan the words Mega Bass?
25:19- [David] A seven foot tall speaker.
25:22By the way, shout out to
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined864
undefined:undefined865
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcares about birds and it's me.
25:31(Alex laughing)
25:32How does it feel to be known
25:33for the cyber truck wiper
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined872
undefined:undefined873
undefined:undefined874
undefined:undefined875
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthis like we want build
25:51cool stuff that's integrated.
25:53Sonos makes good products.
25:54They know how to make good audio products.
25:55I feel like we could take Sonos
25:56and be like, just learn
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined891
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcancels are really good, right?
26:13I think they compete with Bose
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined897
undefined:undefined898
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlike a receiver, right?
26:27- [Nilay] Fair.
26:27- [David] There's a huge
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined903
undefined:undefined904
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedto support a bunch of stuff
26:38because they can't just put
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined913
undefined:undefined914
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedto be taking over Sonos.
26:57Like, real kind of reputation hit.
26:59- [Nilay] Oh, you know what
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined925
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedabout the Samsung Frame TV
27:18and he was like, "Well,
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined935
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsaying you made an entire list
27:27of gadgets and you didn't put TVs on here.
27:29It's a prophecy.
27:31- [Alex] Because he
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined941
undefined:undefined942
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedeverything was impossible
27:41and we had to spy on our users?
27:42- [Nilay] All I'm saying is
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined950
undefined:undefined951
undefined:undefined952
undefined:undefined914
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwild card round coming later,
28:04and if you think you
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined957
undefined:undefined958
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedbe in the TV business.
28:16- [Nilay] Well, if I take
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined964
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedmade it audio solutions.
28:31- [David] Right.
28:32- [Nilay] If it was just headphones,
28:33I would immediately go Bose
28:36so I could win the Sony fight later.
28:37- [David] Interesting. Okay.
28:38Yeah, and I don't, it's just like a bunch
28:40of weird scientists in Massachusetts.
28:42Like, we don't need that.
28:43(Nilay laughing)
28:44I'll go Sony under one
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined981
undefined:undefined982
undefined:undefined983
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined985
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsomething out for TVs.
29:06- [Alex] Yeah.
29:07- [David] I feel now obligated
29:08to take something from Samsung
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined996
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineda harbinger of doom.
29:15(Alex laughing)
29:17- [David] Okay, so the next
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1005
undefined:undefined1006
undefined:undefined1007
undefined:undefined1008
undefined:undefined1009
undefined:undefined1010
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedand Google Workspace.
29:42This is like probably B2B
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1014
undefined:undefined1015
undefined:undefined1016
undefined:undefined914
undefined:undefined1018
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwithout Microsoft Excel.
29:57- [David] Oh, that's interesting.
29:58- [Nilay] No company can be
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1025
undefined:undefined1026
undefined:undefined1027
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineda dog food, you know,
30:14your own your own work.
30:15- [Alex] Yeah, but we can
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1033
undefined:undefined611
undefined:undefined1035
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedgonna be there six years.
30:32By the time that stuff all
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1043
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedPR win is we just like,
30:45give away Premier.
30:47We're just like, here you can have it.
30:49- [Alex] No, we sell like,
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1050
undefined:undefined1051
undefined:undefined1052
undefined:undefined1053
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedover the company from us.
31:07Good luck.
31:08- [Nilay] A lot of our ideas are like,
31:10what if we made slightly less money?
31:11- [David] But that's fine.
31:12- [Nilay] Whereas my ideas are
31:13what if we made a lot more money?
31:15(Alex laughing)
31:16- [David] Yeah.
31:17This says a lot about the distinct vibes
31:18of the Vergecast Incorporated
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1071
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedOracle's weird business
31:27or like IBM's consulting arm or whatever,
31:30but we haven't picked a Google thing.
31:32- [Alex] Mm.
31:33- [David] Do we not want Google Workspace?
31:34Do we just take Google
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1082
undefined:undefined1083
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwalk in the room, be like,
31:48make a list of all the messaging
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1087
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthing you could do here.
32:00- [David] It is. It is.
32:01Messaging I would point
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1099
undefined:undefined1100
undefined:undefined1101
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedGoogle Cloud. Come on.
32:19(David laughing)
32:20- [Nilay] I will concede
32:22and say we should pick Creative Cloud
32:23and our mission here is to
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1110
undefined:undefined1111
undefined:undefined1112
undefined:undefined1113
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthe more your company makes,
32:47we charge you more, like
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1122
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined1125
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined1127
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedstart making success that
33:04we come for our cut.
33:05- [Nilay] And if you're
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1134
undefined:undefined1135
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined1137
undefined:undefined1138
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedof service conflagration.
33:32It's like, I'm fine. I'll do it.
33:34- [Alex] Yeah. David and
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1155
undefined:undefined1156
undefined:undefined1157
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined(all laughing)
33:47It's true that we're gonna
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1161
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthe boring B2B money faucets.
33:58This is where we get to, we
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1166
undefined:undefined1167
undefined:undefined1168
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwant to take from TSMC?
34:19- [Nilay] Making the chips for everybody?
34:21- [David] No, that's their whole thing.
34:22(all laughing)
34:23- [Nilay] But they don't
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1178
undefined:undefined1179
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedexpansion draft in sports, right?
34:36We get to like pick from your roster,
34:38but we can't have your team.
34:39- [Nilay] What about that
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1188
undefined:undefined1189
undefined:undefined1190
undefined:undefined1191
undefined:undefined1192
undefined:undefined1193
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedmachine that makes the fabs.
34:53- [David] The machine
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1198
undefined:undefined1199
undefined:undefined1200
undefined:undefined1201
undefined:undefined1202
undefined:undefined1203
undefined:undefined1204
undefined:undefined1205
undefined:undefined1206
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedfunny trade to have made.
35:26(all laughing)
35:27- [Nilay] If you're trying
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1220
undefined:undefined1221
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlike GPT-4 oh from OpenAI.
35:48- [Nilay] Which still,
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1230
undefined:undefined1231
undefined:undefined1232
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineddo we take from Nvidia?
36:08Is it just the H-100 business?
36:10Do we just take NVIDIA's
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1242
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedfor disruption there.
36:31- [Nilay] Yeah, I think taking
36:32the Nvidia AI chip business
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1248
undefined:undefined1249
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedother chip maker on earth
36:47is going to start making these
36:48and this becomes a bad bet pretty soon?
36:50- [Alex] That's Panos'
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1260
undefined:undefined1261
undefined:undefined1262
undefined:undefined1263
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthe least sexy business
37:12you could possibly imagine in that.
37:14I doubt there's as much money in it,
37:16because I don't think
37:17they can make all that many of those.
37:19- [Nilay] They really cannot.
37:20- [Alex] It's like Samsung
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1276
undefined:undefined1277
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined- [Nilay] Right.
37:32You like, you wanna put
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1285
undefined:undefined187
undefined:undefined1287
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthat's like, that's easy.
37:48It runs itself. We're good.
37:49All right. I love this.
37:50- [David] And, we love talking about it.
37:51- [Nilay] We do.
37:52- [David] You know?
37:53- [Alex] Yeah.
37:54- [Nilay] You want to talk
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1298
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpanels that go in your Sonys.
38:01- [Nilay] That's true.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1307
undefined:undefined1308
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsell these tomorrow? Come on.
38:16Come on.
38:18- [Alex] Put some little
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1321
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwhich I just realized
38:57because we took the Ray-Ban Smart Glasses,
38:59which I now slightly regret
39:01because I would like
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1335
undefined:undefined1336
undefined:undefined1337
undefined:undefined1338
undefined:undefined1339
undefined:undefined1340
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined1342
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedmaking G-chat is way up there.
39:21- [Nilay] Just making G-chat and then I,
39:22you know, I got the phone.
39:24So, or your blue bubble
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1350
undefined:undefined1351
undefined:undefined1352
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefineda real story by the way.
39:37That's not just a case in
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1357
undefined:undefined1358
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedhappens to me occasionally.
39:51I'll search for like, pizza in my Gmail
39:53and it'll be like, did you
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1365
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedG-chat conversations
40:08were before we were dating,
40:10so they were just conversations
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1376
undefined:undefined1377
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined1379
undefined:undefined187
undefined:undefined1381
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedunrealized potential that.
40:25- [Alex] Or just Discord.
40:26- [David] So, but we can't take Discord
40:27'cause Discord is Discord, right? Like.
40:28- [Alex] Oh, that's right.
40:29- [David] That's, it's off the-
40:31- [Alex] I thought somebody
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1390
undefined:undefined1391
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlike, we're gonna kind
40:43of win people over with Adobe,
40:46but eventually we will
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1399
undefined:undefined1400
undefined:undefined1401
undefined:undefined1402
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedservice, which is actually fun
41:08because again, we can't
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1420
undefined:undefined1421
undefined:undefined1422
undefined:undefined1423
undefined:undefined1424
undefined:undefined1425
undefined:undefined1426
undefined:undefined1427
undefined:undefined1428
undefined:undefined1429
undefined:undefined1430
undefined:undefined1431
undefined:undefined1432
undefined:undefined1433
undefined:undefined1434
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined1436
undefined:undefined1437
undefined:undefined1438
undefined:undefined1439
undefined:undefined611
undefined:undefined1441
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedat the end to buy TikTok
41:55you have to win a boat
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthat are interesting.
42:09ESPN would make us an awful lot of money
42:11for a pretty long time.
42:12Hulu exists, Disney+ exists.
42:16We could have Apple TV Plus
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1457
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedservice acquisition, right?
42:27We're not getting the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1462
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedget to own "Star Wars."
42:35You're right.
42:36- [Nilay] The economics of
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1469
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpeople pay money for it.
42:49The other model is
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1473
undefined:undefined1474
undefined:undefined1475
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedhave costs or not costs?
43:07- [David] But again, TikTok not famously
43:09making a ton of money right now.
43:10- [Nilay] Well, 'cause they're, you know,
43:12we'll fix that, 55%.
43:13- [Alex] No, no.
43:14It's, we do something like
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1491
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedvideo editor is CapCut.
43:29So we just spin it out.
43:30- [David] It's good enough. Yeah.
43:31Like it'll work and we call it cut cap.
43:32- [Nilay] We can probably cut cap.
43:33- [David] Yeah. There we go. All right.
43:35TikTok and cut cap.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1501
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedvery funny that we took
43:53Kindle and Google Check.
43:54(Alex laughing)
43:55- [Alex] That's what we
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1513
undefined:undefined1514
undefined:undefined1515
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsingle most important thing
44:08we do at this company.
44:10I feel really good about it.
44:11- [Alex] I mean, the teens
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1523
undefined:undefined1524
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwe're killing the quest,
44:31but we're probably killing the quest.
44:32We're all in on the smart glasses.
44:33We're taking Sony's audio solutions.
44:36We're taking Adobe Creative Cloud.
44:38We're taking LG Display,
44:40and we're taking G-chat.
44:43Well, we're taking the mess
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1537
undefined:undefined1538
undefined:undefined1539
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined1541
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthe, like, weird one out,
45:01but we're gonna make Lenovo cool again.
45:04It's gonna be great.
45:05- [Alex] Yeah. We'll fix it.
45:06- [David] Okay. So we
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1554
undefined:undefined1555
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthat Vergecast Inc.
45:21is going to make that is not off limits
45:23because we've already
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1565
undefined:undefined1566
undefined:undefined1567
undefined:undefined1568
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedbusiness that's like good
45:42and not the part of the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1573
undefined:undefined611
undefined:undefined1575
undefined:undefined1576
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedin. We just get the volcano.
45:55They make a whole bunch
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1589
undefined:undefined1590
undefined:undefined1591
undefined:undefined1592
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwe were in this till 2040.
46:20- [Alex] Yeah, that makes sense.
46:21- [Nilay] I'd be down.
46:222030 feels iffy,
46:23and that's just like a
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1602
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined(Alex laughing)
46:34We're doing really well.
46:37- [Alex] This gets us the Tegra.
46:39- [David] Yeah. Why this?
46:40- [Nilay] Because I think
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1614
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedof people who are like,
46:56what you want to do is
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1621
undefined:undefined1622
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedgotta make a mid-size crossover,
47:10and that's just not for us.
47:11- [David] Okay, but again,
47:12we would take all the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1631
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined1633
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwant the Mustang Mach E.
47:28This is your moment.
47:30Take the Mach E, man.
47:31- [Nilay] It's a shoe.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1639
undefined:undefined1381
undefined:undefined1641
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedenthusists. They're all insane.
47:48Like, that's what will tear us apart.
47:49- [David] Okay.
47:50- [Alex] Wait, I thought of it.
47:51- [David] Okay.
47:52- [Alex] Samsung's barely a
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1651
undefined:undefined1652
undefined:undefined1653
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedsmartphone muralist camera.
48:05- [Alex] Exactly.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1661
undefined:undefined1662
undefined:undefined1663
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedthe software so that it like,
48:25doesn't take you 12 hours
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1671
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedour brand especially.
48:39- [Alex] And then we do like a
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1676
undefined:undefined1677
undefined:undefined1678
undefined:undefined1679
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined- [David] I like it,
48:52and then last category, the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1686
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined- [Nilay] Yeah.
49:03- [Alex] I really hope it's the same one.
49:05- [Nilay] It's Rivian.
49:06- [David] Oh, so you want to
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1692
undefined:undefined665
undefined:undefined1694
undefined:undefined1695
undefined:undefined1696
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedpurchases on iPhones. 55%.
49:27- [Alex] What about
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1704
undefined:undefined1705
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedyou want like a startup,
49:40you want like an earthy.
49:42- [David] So my vote, if
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1713
undefined:undefined1714
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedis moving along fast.
49:56They're like kind of right in the mix
49:57with Google and Open AI.
49:59I don't know that I want
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1721
undefined:undefined1722
undefined:undefined1723
undefined:undefined1724
undefined:undefined1725
undefined:undefined1726
undefined:undefined1727
undefined:undefined1728
undefined:undefined1729
undefined:undefined1730
undefined:undefined1731
undefined:undefined1732
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedof Anthropic though,
50:28like that is firmly a startup.
50:30- [Nilay] Yeah, Anthropic counts, I think.
50:32- [Alex] Like Rivian has factories.
50:34Is that a startup when it has factories?
50:36- [David] Fair. It is just a fair point.
50:39- [Nilay] It is pretty much a car company.
50:40- [David] Yeah, but Nilay, the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1747
undefined:undefined1748
undefined:undefined370
undefined:undefined1750
undefined:undefined1751
undefined:undefined1752
undefined:undefined1753
undefined:undefined1754
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedgonna have to write already,
51:05like apology blogs.
51:07I don't, we don't need more.
51:08- [David] Yeah.
51:09Nilay is definitely the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1762
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedDJI, another company
51:20that might need some saving in America
51:21that does some interesting stuff.
51:23- [David] But not a startup.
51:24So this is not just
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1776
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedand has a $26 billion value.
51:46Like, it's just like not a startup.
51:48(Alex laughing)
51:48They like, you wanna go?
51:51You need some installer shit.
51:52Like, what's some like
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1792
undefined:undefined1793
undefined:undefined1794
undefined:undefined1795
undefined:undefined1796
undefined:undefined1797
undefined:undefined1798
undefined:undefined1799
undefined:undefined1800
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlike you're kind of,
52:21this is like your problem,
52:23and like if you get in trouble,
52:24that's your problem and not ours.
52:26We're gonna call them like the
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1815
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedright. Anthropic, it is.
52:41Welcome to the team, Anthropic people.
52:44- [Alex] How do you feel about
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1827
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlike we've done this.
52:57Can I recap for you?
52:58- [Nilay] Yes.
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1835
undefined:undefined1836
undefined:undefined1837
undefined:undefined1838
undefined:undefined1839
undefined:undefined1840
undefined:undefined1841
undefined:undefined1842
undefined:undefined1843
undefined:undefined1844
undefined:undefined1845
undefined:undefined1846
undefined:undefined1847
undefined:undefined1848
undefined:undefined1849
undefined:undefined1850
undefined:undefined1851
undefined:undefined1852
undefined:undefined1853
undefined:undefined1854
undefined:undefined1855
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedgood. This feels great.
54:04This is the right combo of things.
54:06We're doing a little bit of good.
54:08We're doing a little bit more evil.
54:09We're making some money,
54:11and then we're gonna fix messages.
54:13- [Alex] Yeah.
54:14- [David] We are incredibly
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1880
undefined:undefined1881
undefined:undefined1882
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwant to be like a B2B thing.
54:35So that could eventually
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1892
undefined:undefined1893
undefined:undefined1894
undefined:undefined611
undefined:undefined188
undefined:undefined1897
undefined:undefined223
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedmodel is they pirate content.
54:56- [David] What are we gonna
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1904
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedin which case we give them,
55:11we don't charge a fee at all.
55:12- [David] Oh, yeah.
55:13The self preferencing is
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1916
undefined:undefined1917
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedcompanies act like this?
55:25And it's like we're
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1924
undefined:undefined1925
undefined:undefined1926
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedI think we've solved it.
55:38I feel like we're easily a trillion dollar
55:40company right off the bat here.
55:41- [Alex] Immediately.
55:42- [David] Our website is
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1936
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedbut I'm in charge of names.
55:59- [Alex] Yeah. The speakers
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1944
undefined:undefined592
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedwhat the letters mean
56:11because they're in no order.
56:14It's just consonants
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1953
undefined:undefined1954
undefined:undefined1955
undefined:undefined1956
undefined:undefined1957
undefined:undefined1958
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedyour migraines all once.
56:35G-chat Mega Bass.
56:36(all laughing)
56:38- [Alex] Every time you type
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1969
undefined:undefined1970
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedgonna make so much money.
56:49Panos, have fun.
56:50- [Nilay] And then go to jail.
56:51- [Alex] No, Panos goes to jail.
56:53- [Nilay] That's true.
56:54- [Alex] We're out. We're out.
56:55- [David] Lina Khan, you
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1986
undefined:undefined1987
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedlinks in the show notes
57:14to coverage we've done of these companies,
57:15but I really want to know what you think.
57:17What did we pick wrong?
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined1996
undefined:undefined1997
undefined:undefined
undefined:undefinedelse, hit up the hotline.
57:33Send us an email. We
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined00:00:03,179 --> 00:00:04,388
undefined:undefined2008
undefined:undefined2009
undefined:undefined604

Recommended