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00:00In the break, we have an old man with his grandson.
00:04He says he has come from America.
00:06Let's talk to him about his visit.
00:08Greetings.
00:09Greetings. How are you?
00:12I am good, sir. I am very well. Thank you.
00:14How are you?
00:15I am good too.
00:16Okay. Okay.
00:17Baba Good, what is your name?
00:19My name is Chirag.
00:20Okay. Okay.
00:21Mr. Chirag, why have you come to our show today?
00:25I have seen your show.
00:28Okay.
00:28I have reached America.
00:30I had been there. People loved you there.
00:32Yes. You will get love everywhere.
00:35Where are you from?
00:36I am from Virginia.
00:37Okay. I will come to Virginia.
00:39No. We have shifted to New York.
00:41Okay. Okay. Okay.
00:42Okay. I will land in New York.
00:44I can't work there. I am a Californian.
00:49He will fall on the car. He is a free man.
00:52No. It's all about age.
00:57How old are you?
00:58I am 92 years old.
01:00Okay. 92 years old.
01:03Pray that I am 100 years old and I get a clap.
01:07What do you want to do in life if you hit 100?
01:11I have done everything in life.
01:13My last wish has been fulfilled today.
01:16What was that?
01:17The place where you do the show.
01:19Yes. This place.
01:20It was our mansion.
01:21Okay. Okay. Okay.
01:24That's why you have come here.
01:26We have been here since 1989.
01:27Okay. Okay. How long has it been since your mother died?
01:30She died after I was born.
01:32Were you the eighth child?
01:34Of course, I was the eighth child.
01:37But we didn't find any traces of your mansion here.
01:41The map has changed.
01:43How long ago was your mansion here?
01:45I had gone there 80 years ago.
01:48Oh. 80 years ago.
01:51Yes.
01:52This place was called Bootianwala.
01:55Okay. This place was called Bootianwala at that time.
01:57Not Wala. Wali.
01:59Did you come to Bootianwala or not?
02:01No. My grandfather died after I was born.
02:05Okay. Are you his grandson?
02:06Yes. He is my grandson.
02:07We have a big store there.
02:09Okay. What's the name?
02:11Dada Pota Grocery.
02:12Dada Pota. Okay. Dada Pota Grocery.
02:14Dada Pota Grocery.
02:16He is from Jhampal.
02:18Okay. Okay.
02:18That's why he doesn't speak properly.
02:21If you had gone to America 80 years ago
02:24and you are still 92 years old.
02:26You were 12 years old when you left from here.
02:29Yes.
02:29How do you remember?
02:3112 years is a very young age.
02:32Everyone remembers 12 years.
02:3612 years is a very young age.
02:38Yes, sir. The child is very young.
02:39He keeps remembering.
02:40There are many people whose memory starts from their upbringing.
02:44From upbringing?
02:45Yes. They remember their upbringing.
02:46There are many such people.
02:47Really?
02:48Yes.
02:48Since when do you remember?
02:51If you talk about glimpses.
02:53I remember the first day of my school.
02:55What?
02:56Yes.
02:56I remember that too.
02:57If I go further back, I remember my first toy.
03:03Oh.
03:03What was your first toy?
03:05It was actually a piano.
03:07Okay.
03:07It was a miniature piano.
03:09But it was a complete piano.
03:11I mean a proper piano.
03:12A complete piano.
03:13It can't be your first toy.
03:14Your first toy must have been a stuffed toy.
03:16No.
03:17No. The first toy was because someone had come to congratulate me.
03:21He had brought it.
03:22But why would he bring a stuffed toy?
03:25It was not a toy.
03:27He had brought a decorative piece.
03:29Yes.
03:30I had told you earlier..
03:30But he meant that he was intelligent.
03:32He knew that he would do the work of a musician.
03:35I had told you earlier that he is a rich man.
03:38Yes.
03:38He is rich from the beginning.
03:39He is a piano.
03:40You have brought a very good demography.
03:43Yes.
03:43Ask me.
03:45Tell me. What memories do you have here?
03:46The place where you are sitting.
03:48Yes.
03:49I used to play with the dogs here.
03:52What was the place where you used to sit?
03:56Here?
03:57We used to play with the dogs here.
04:01Sir, what was the place where I used to sit?
04:03There was nothing here.
04:04It was a place of charity.
04:09What was the place where Azeem Vicky used to sit?
04:12There used to be a berry here.
04:13There used to be a shadow here.
04:16There used to be a berry here.
04:17There used to be a shadow here.
04:20What was the place where Goga used to sit?
04:21There used to be a dacoit here.
04:24He is forgetting.
04:26Shall I tell you?
04:27The place where I used to sit,
04:28there used to be rose plants here.
04:31There used to be a garden here.
04:32We didn't have a garden here.
04:34You haven't told us what used to happen here
04:36where Aarzu Fatima used to sit.
04:40I have a lot of memories here.
04:42Why?
04:43What used to happen here?
04:44When I used to get worried, I used to sit here.
04:48I used to sit where Aarzu used to sit.
04:50I used to write a knife on the berry.
04:52What?
04:53I love you.
04:55Sometimes, Mr. Agha sits here.
04:57What happens here?
04:59There used to be a stove here.
05:01It is still there.
05:03What a great panchayat it would have been.
05:05There would have been a panchayat
05:06and aunt would have been washing utensils.
05:07Okay.
05:13Your wife has passed away.
05:15Oh, I miss her so much.
05:17Oh.
05:18I have missed her so much.
05:20Oh.
05:21No one asked me about her.
05:24She will ask you today.
05:25You must be missing her.
05:26Oh.
05:27She is still alive.
05:33Look at me.
05:34Yes.
05:35When I come to Lamma,
05:36my two or three grandsons ask me if I am their father.
05:40I say, yes, I am their father.
05:42They still don't watch dramas.
05:46What is the reason?
05:47Are they getting any treatment done there?
05:49No, they are just happy.
05:51Oh.
05:52That's it.
05:52I worked very hard.
05:54Okay.
05:55I got rotis from the hostel.
05:57I used to sleep in the tandoor.
05:58You had to make rotis in the tandoor
06:00and sleep in the hostel.
06:01No, it was very cold there.
06:03It was cold in America.
06:05I went to Mary's house.
06:06Oh, I see.
06:07You went to Mary's house.
06:08How long did it take you to go there?
06:10I went to Mary's house when I was 12 years old.
06:13Okay.
06:14When I got down,
06:15I was 13 or 13.5 years old.
06:18People used to remember him so well.
06:20That's true.
06:21When people are going on a long journey,
06:24they must say goodbye
06:26because there is no way to contact them.
06:29Irza, what you said is absolutely right.
06:33You see, at our airports,
06:35a lot of people go to drop off a single person.
06:37Yes.
06:37It's a habit of that time.
06:39Yes.
06:40If someone is going to board a ship from Karachi,
06:42they don't know if he will ever return.
06:44Oh.
06:45So, they used to drop him off till the end.
06:47The whole family used to go.
06:49The interesting thing is that
06:51the people who used to go on a long journey,
06:53they used to take wheat, rice, wheat,
06:57clothes, raw clothes, gold with them.
07:02They used to sell the clothes.
07:04Because they didn't have so much money.
07:05Absolutely.
07:06They used to sell wheat and rice.
07:08They used to survive.
07:09And then,
07:10if they received a letter,
07:12they would know that they are alive.
07:13What you said is absolutely right, Haroon.
07:15Yes.
07:16They used to drop him off till the end.
07:18Yes.
07:19Eight of my friends
07:20dropped me off at the sea.
07:22Oh.
07:23You must have been hugging him and telling him not to go.
07:26No.
07:27Yes.
07:28I used to say that I don't want to go.
07:29I was tired.
07:31Mr. Haroon, the person who reached America at the age of 13,
07:35Yes.
07:35his accent should have been ruined now.
07:37Absolutely.
07:38I was in Chittanpur.
07:39When you went there?
07:40Yes. I didn't know English.
07:42Okay. And now?
07:43I don't know it now.
07:45I don't like the soil.
07:47Okay.
07:48Why did I come here?
07:49Why?
07:49To get the soil.
07:52Okay. I will get the soil.
07:53No. No. Mr. Haroon, don't do that. Please.
07:55Why?
07:56Let him eat the soil.
07:58I forgot to ask you something.
07:59Yes.
08:00Try to remember the map of the mansion when you were a kid.
08:03Oh.
08:03What used to happen where Mr. Danish used to sit?
08:06Your father must have sat there.
08:12Yes, father. He used to sit here.
08:13He didn't have legs in his hips.
08:17He used to sit here and write whatever he wanted.
08:20He was a panchayat man.
08:22Okay. Your father was a panchayat man.
08:25Yes. Yes.
08:25Okay. Did the people of the panchayat sit here?
08:27They used to sit here.
08:28Father used to sit with his head down.
08:30Okay.
08:30He used to sit with his head down.
08:31Wow.
08:32And father used to take money from him.
08:35Father used to take money from his eyes.
08:36Oh, God.
08:38Okay. Who were your neighbours here?
08:40Yes. He used to come here.
08:41His name was Gulab Singh.
08:44Okay.
08:45One of my friends was his grandson.
08:46Okay.
08:47Dalbir Singh.
08:48Okay. Okay.
08:49They were your neighbours.
08:50They were my neighbours. They were from Pakistan.
08:51Who used to live in the front?
08:53His name was Thomas. He was a white man.
08:55Okay. He had a lot of memory.
08:57He had a lot of memory.
08:57He was from the British army.
08:59Father, he has been from the British army since childhood.
09:02Yes. Yes.
09:02That's why he speaks Punjabi fluently.
09:05No. He is from the British army.
09:06He was from the British army.
09:08Absolutely.
09:09He was very powerful.
09:09Did you play a cricket match in your time
09:12and give double taxes to the British army?
09:14Have you seen the movie, Lagaan?
09:16I have seen it.
09:17Did you do the work of Lagaan film?
09:18I have seen the movie three or four times.
09:20Because I had a lot of memories from that time.
09:23How?
09:24When the British came here, they challenged us.
09:26What? What? What?
09:27They asked us to play cricket.
09:29I see.
09:29If you are a cricketer, we will give you double taxes.
09:32Okay.
09:33I didn't get scared.
09:34Then?
09:35I said, don't be scared.
09:36We won't play there.
09:37Take the cricketers quietly.
09:41I still don't understand
09:43why you left your business and came here.
09:46I came to see my son.
09:49I said, let me see him before he dies.
09:51I saw him with a white shirt.
09:54Where did you see him?
09:55I saw him outside.
09:57He is our staff's son.
09:59Is he?
09:59Yes.
10:00Why do you call me? I will kill you.
10:04I still remember, I used to do mischief here.
10:07I see.
10:07My father used to slap me there.
10:10Yes.
10:10I used to go to him and my mother used to whisper in my ear.
10:14No. No. No.
10:15Tell me the truth.
10:16He used to do mischief here.
10:17Yes.
10:17And his mother used to beat him.
10:20Tell me about your street.
10:22I am very ashamed.
10:24No one used to go out in the street.
10:25Why?
10:26There used to be a boy named Salim in your show.
10:28Yes.
10:29His grandmother beat him.