Heated Debate Between Hassan Ayub And Khawar Ghumman

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00:00I am saying the right thing and you are saying the wrong thing.

00:05I am not saying anything wrong.

00:06You are saying that the 219 CIN of Pakistan should not be implemented.

00:11I am not saying that.

00:12Then what are you saying?

00:13Now you are saying 219, 222, 241, 140.

00:17What you are saying is common sense.

00:22When Challenge was ordered, the Lahore High Court's notification,

00:26the application is on that.

00:28I don't think you need to explain it.

00:30No, it is very important.

00:31I will tell you.

00:32Listen to me.

00:33There is Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan.

00:36Listen to me.

00:37Listen to me.

00:38When you raise an issue,

00:40the fight is that the government has passed a new law

00:45which has gone to the Senate.

00:47Hopefully, it will be passed by the Senate.

00:49According to the Act of the Parliament,

00:52you can appoint retired judges.

00:57When the election commission passes the Senate,

01:00it will be given.

01:02Do you understand?

01:03It has been going on since the past.

01:04This time they have made it official.

01:06Listen to me.

01:07You also listen.

01:08There used to be retired judges in the past.

01:11A few years ago, they amended it.

01:15They said that retirees should not be included.

01:18I am saying the same thing.

01:20The problem is that some people have questions.

01:24We are trying to explain it to people.

01:26This is the issue.

01:27Will it be applied all over the country?

01:30Obviously, if the decision comes tomorrow,

01:32it won't be that only the Lahore High Court's decision

01:35can't appoint retired judges,

01:38it will be applied to everyone.

01:40So that's how it is going to happen.

01:42The legislation or the ordinance

01:46has nothing to do with this case.

01:49There has been a discussion on it.

01:51There has been a remark on it.

01:53But that matter is not before the Supreme Court.

01:57The dispute in the Supreme Court

02:00No, no, no.

02:01The dispute in the Supreme Court is

02:03whether the appointment authority is the Election Commission

02:05or the Chief Justice of the Lahore High Court.

02:07To the extent of Punjab.

02:09The article 219C of the ordinance

02:11clearly states that the appointment of the notification

02:16That is a matter of dispute.

02:17No, the Constitution says so.

02:19The point is that the remarks of the judges

02:21Listen to me.

02:22I can't give the importance of the remarks of the judges

02:25to what is happening in the constitution.

02:27I gave you the verdict yesterday.

02:29Listen to me.

02:30We can't give the verdict as per our will.

02:32If you were told that the election on the 90th day

02:34is called the mirror of Pakistan.

02:36Isn't this the mirror of Pakistan, 219C?

02:38If that is wrong,

02:39Isn't this the mirror of Pakistan, 219C?

02:41The Supreme Court has decided.

02:42Where did it decide?

02:43After the 90th day.

02:44The election was held on the 90th day.

02:45It was not held on the 90th day.

02:46It was not held on the 90th day.

02:47It was not held on the 90th day.

02:48It was wrong.

02:49You are saying it was wrong.

02:50I have said this many times.

02:51Then who has the right to 219C?

02:53The Supreme Court has the right

02:55If there are any circumstances,

02:57then the Supreme Court can give its verdict.

03:00Sir, with all due respect.

03:01The right to rewrite the constitution

03:03is only with the legislator.

03:04It is with the legislator.

03:06It is with the public representatives.

03:08The Supreme Court of Pakistan does not have it.

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