Sen. Binay walks out from hearing on new Senate building
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00:00The completion of the new Senate building's construction has turned into a déjà vu all over again for two senators
00:07who found themselves on opposite sides of a similar oversight probe nearly 10 years ago
00:13on a Makati City parking building that went way over budget.
00:17Our Daniel Manalastas on a heated face-off earlier today in today's Senate probe on their new digs
00:24that has reopened old wounds and resurfaced mutual animus.
00:31Tension rose during the Senate committee hearing on new Senate building
00:35as Senators Alan Peter Cayetano and Nancy Binay engaged in a heated argument
00:41regarding the cost of the controversial project.
00:44In the document that I am holding, there's no 23 billion.
00:4721.7 billion and then 23.
00:50You're reacting to what Senator Escudero said that 23,
00:54which was submitted to us by the SCT, which were all your staff,
00:59and which I released to the media.
01:01And you've been going around saying our numbers are wrong.
01:04So if it's wrong, correct it.
01:06But the number that was given to us by your staff,
01:09the issue is clear, you will mess up the issue.
01:12I'm not messing up the issue, Mr. Chairman.
01:14The issue is already messed up.
01:17Next thing, the two senators argued on the alleged project delays.
01:22You're denying even though it's been 15 months since you've been on the table.
01:25Then what are we saying on the numbers now?
01:28At one point, Senator Binay, do you want to help or do you just want to mess it up?
01:32Because from the start, you're messing up the credibility of our review.
01:36Mr. Chairman, my goal is to finish this building.
01:40How can you finish it? It's been 15 months since you've been on the table and you haven't done anything.
01:44I don't know what you're saying.
01:46I just learned that it's been 15 months since you've been on the table and you haven't done anything.
01:50We're doing something Mr. Chairman.
01:53What did you do? It's been 15 months.
01:56First of all, Mr. Chairman, it's not my job to quantify.
02:01It's the job of the DPWH to quantify.
02:05We're still in the process of fixing this.
02:08In fact, the target is the EMA award.
02:12Both senators later on spoke off-topic, particularly Binay's recent statements.
02:17I need an interview.
02:19You have ten interviews. Maybe this is Makati Taguig.
02:24You didn't just change the question on the radio.
02:27All of them have the same question. It's still exact.
02:30It's obvious that you gave the question.
02:32How can I give a question to the media?
02:37What did you say to me?
02:39You said someone is behind you.
02:41You're accusing me of attempted murder.
02:43Who is behind you? I don't know anything about that.
02:46I will ask you later who is behind you.
02:48But it's not me. I don't know anything about that.
02:51Actually Mr. Chairman, did I say anything about you?
02:54I'm not saying anything about you.
02:56How can you say to the media that someone is behind you?
03:00Then you say someone is behind you.
03:03What will they think?
03:04Did I say that Andrew Peter Cayetano is behind me?
03:08They said that when they react, they might be guilty.
03:12Ma'am, I will tell you that your name is Lourdes and not Marites.
03:16Let's fix this. It's embarrassing.
03:19We are not Marites, Mr. Chairman.
03:22And when the DPWH was asked...
03:24DPWH, does the amount of P23 billion exist in your documents?
03:34You say.
03:35There is none, Mr. Chairman.
03:37Thank you.
03:38Sorry, sorry.
03:39There is none.
03:40Excuse me. Excuse me.
03:42Order. Order. Order.
03:44Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
03:46There is no such thing as P23 billion in the DPWH.
03:50Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
03:51After her walkout, it was clear she was distressed.
03:55That she is dismayed.
03:56She also answered a number of allegations.
03:59Of course, we are just humans.
04:02It's like a wound that I thought was healed.
04:08It's like it was opened again.
04:10Because I remember what they did to my family.
04:13How they destroyed our name.
04:17We didn't sit down.
04:19As in, really twice a week.
04:21That's it. I think the other one is painful.
04:23Because I worked hard for this building.
04:26Binay also alludes today's encounter is a throwback of the 2015 Senate hearings
04:31on the alleged overpricing of the Makati City Parking Building back then.
04:36Actually, I think that was the tone of the hearings.
04:38Because as we can see, whenever we talk about DPWH and answer,
04:42she always blocks us.
04:44So that's what she did to us.
04:46And I'll go back. It reminds me of 2015.
04:50Ma'am, what do you think?
04:52Where the hearings are taking place, those are the...
04:55This is a replay of the 24 Senate hearings.
05:01The Senate panel is expected to resume its hearing in the coming days.
05:05Daniel Mananastas from the National TV Network for a new and better Philippines.